OH SNAP — The Real World: Brooklyn‘s JD Ordonez at the Annual White Party in South Beach. [Photo via Z Reveals]
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Matt
What a loser.
Paul
This guy is such an incredible douchebag……
Jiggy
JD was at the WINTER PARTY not the White PARTY. I know Queerty already slammed the Task Force last year for the work they do, but at least get the NAME of their event correct! You link to a site that names the event correctly, so yet again, sloppy journalism from Queery.
JohnInManhattan
MAJOR douchbag. I wouldn’t expect to see him anywhere else.
hardmannyc
I guess this counts as a celebrity sighting on this website. And yes, the Winter Party was two weeks ago. The White Party was in November. You ARE a gay man, right?
ChristopherM
@hardmannyc:
While it is sloppy to get the wrong event when you’re talking about it on a news site, I’m not sure what knowing which drug-fueled hot mess attended by 1% of gay folks is which has to do with being gay. Most of us think such events are a complete and utter waste of time.
Pragmatist
@ChristopherM: Second that, sort of. I don’t have anything particularly against drug-fueled hot messes, if that’s your thing. But they certainly attract far less than 1% of the gay population
Donsnyc
JD is a trash. See how far we have come since Pedro Zamora of The Real World San Francisco.
hardmannyc
ChristopherM/Pragmatist: I’m always amused by self-righteous comments like yours. Have you actually ever BEEN to one of these events? No, you probably have never gotten closer than the photo pages in the local bar rag.
Fact is, you may not like it, but these parties are the face of gay America. They’re also a lot of fun.
hardmannyc
I should add that the writer of the post could have Googled the party and found out the right one.
peter fortune
Im one of the hot messes that have been going to both the White party and the Winter Party for the past ten years. If you haven’t been, or too ugly to rear your head at one of these events dont criticize what you dont know about. For me, it’s more then just the drugs and the insane beats. Its a chance to reconnect with old friends, meet new ones. It’s about love. It’s about having a good time. It’s about giving me the chance to show off my latest Marc Jacobs bag and my Prada bathing suit. It’s about sitting at the Delano or the National and sipping woo woo’s watching the world go by. I return home to my house in the Hills and my job in Malibu knowing that I can’t wait for the next chance to show up at a circuit party.
Jack
@peter fortune: I think I just threw up a little in my mouth.
Jamie
@hardmannyc: The face of gay america? Are you shitting me? That’s half of our problem right there. And yeah, I’ve been. Don’t try to bullshit a bullshitter. “It’s about love.” If that’s what you think love is, you haven’t found it, baby. Grow the fuck up.
If long-term couples contributing to their local societies were the face of gay america, instead of drug-addled sex fests, we’d already have gay marriage by now.
Matt
@peter fortune: I wouldn’t brag about what I had. It comes across as that’s the only thing you have to offer. Also, I’ve reared my “ugly head” at these parties in my early 20’s. It’s nothing more than a crack out fuck fest.
ousslande
I have never attended a white/winter/morning after party. It seems a very shallow, look at me crowd anfd if you don’t have the right body, clothes whatever you are looked down upon. I could be wrong but i would prefer to od at home.
Wayne
You know.. for a community that is supposed to be about tolerance we display a shocking lack of it.
No one is forcing you to go to a circuit event. Those of us who do go pay handsomely for the privilege. That money does a lot of good for the community. For those of you who don’t go and choose to slam those of us who do, please put your money or your time where your mouth is. volunteer or donate to a cause of your choice, and please don’t criticize.
The circuit events are amazing and without drugs I am high for weeks afterward on the feelings, the music and the coming together of a community. That’s how I choose to spend my donation dollars. My other half volunteers his time and considerable talent several times a year to these events.
Pragmatist
@hardmannyc: Nope, I haven’t, although I’ve been to rave-type venues that I believe had a similar vibe. I didn’t like them; they were overly warm, smelly, and weird.
If you think those events portray the “face of gay America” then I suspect your circle of acquaintances may be a bit insular. The fact is, most gay/bi men don’t go to those events. Many don’t live near the metropolitan areas where they’re held; many who do just don’t prefer to spend their time or money that way.
To me, there is no “face of gay America” because gay (and bi) America is nearly as diverse as the general population. I have friends who are stock brokers and fund managers, advertising creatives, gym rats and computer nerds (and some gym rats who ARE computer nerds), doctoral students, aviation students, engineers, athletes, wanderers, and tree-huggers. They’re all very, very different, and not one of them has ever indicated any desire to go to Palm Springs in April.
I have always suspected that some of the unhealthiness that exists in the G/B segment of the community is a result of people who only meet other G/B men at bars and circuit parties. There’s a big world out there, and if you venture into it, you’ll see there are a lot of guys who won’t judge you for being older than 25 and who won’t care if you’re wearing last-season shoes, either.
hardmannyc
Pragmatist: Well argued. I basically agree about “face of gay America.” Don’t agree about meeting at bars & parties being a problem. Where do you think straight couples meet? In church? I live in a neigborhood w/tons of straight bars, and I can tell you — same place where we meet.
I’m way older than 15, BTW, and I have a great time at these parties. It’s about dancing. I always say, either you get it if you don’t. If you do, great. If you don’t, don’t put down people who do. And PeterFortune is obviously a put-on. Some people do not get irony.
hardmannyc
I met my lover of 14 years in a four-way at the baths, great relationship until he died. Met my last boyfriend of 3.5 years at a sex party. Gotta go to the barn if you want to ride a horse!
Pragmatist
@hardmannyc: Ah. I have a couple of responses to your comments:
1. I wasn’t talking about “meeting” in the sense of finding dates, sexual partners, or even soul mates. I just meant meeting in the ordinary sense — like how you meet co-workers, and sometimes their family members.
From what I’ve heard from some guys, it sounds like they never encounter another gay guy except at a bar, circuit party, sex club, etc. Unfortunately, there aren’t a lot of venues like that where we tend to go for “ordinary” socializing — there’s almost always the motive of trying to look good and pick up dates or sex partners. The problem with this is that, if you only encounter other gay men at these venues, you’re probably never meeting the real people behind the club facades. A lot of guys in WeHo clubs are downright cruel to their fellow revelers; but I believe they’re not genuinely cruel people in their daily lives. Being at a pickup joint only intensifies one’s feelings of insecurity, resource scarcity, and defensiveness.
2. Straight couples — and gay couples! — meet in all kinds of places. Yes, even at church! In general I think it’s best to meet at a “normal” (non-sexually-charged) place because it’s more likely you’ll be yourself, and it’s more likely that any compatibility you perceive with the other person will be based on something more than physical attraction. At a bar, a guy could be brain-dead, but with the alcohol and pounding music, who cares? On a day-to-day basis, the pairing isn’t going to be as smooth.
3. Very sorry to hear about your deceased lover. But, glad to hear that you had positive experiences from your bath/sex party visits. I wasn’t trying to pass judgment; I’ve been to baths and sex clubs too! (I’ve never had the guts to actually *participate*, but that had more to do with my own ambivalence about sex rather than the location.) My point is only that I think it’s dangerous for a culture to be too closely tied to the pursuit of carnal pleasure. There are other, equally important aspects of life to be enjoyed, but they’re not going to develop on their own.
hardmannyc
1) There are gay churches (MCC) and synagogues and very gay-friendly ones. There are tons of gay social and athletic clubs. Here in NYC, there are gazillions of gay meet-ups and networking events. And, of course, gyms. A lot of people LIKE to meet people in bars and at circuit parties; they are, above all, highly intense social situations. Anyone who complains that gay men are too limited in where they can look for friendship and romance aren’t looking very hard.
2) See above. I don’t see gay men as any shallower or more limited than their straight counterparts.
3) I think every culture in every age is obsessed with carnal culture, as the good Dr. Freud taught us. Some are just better at seeming to suppress it than others. We are biologically programmed to have sex to propogate our species; it’s why we’re here (the Gays just put it in a different place). I have a strong inner life. Sometimes I’d rather read a book than anything. But I do love to get laid.
OMG
OK PEOPLE, I HAVE TO INTERRUPT! BIG IMPORTANT QUESTION:
Could somebody please explain the soldier tag? Is it a gay thing? He’s been sporting one since day one, and in the picture two “JD clones” can be seen rocking the exact same necklace. What gives? Do I need to get myself one? I’m already working on the spraytan and the weekly waxes…
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