Surprise! Yet another anti-drag legislator’s dragged-up past just surfaced, because of course it did
By Editors · 31 comments
Like clockwork — nay, more reliably than clockwork — another anti-drag republican has had their past drag entertainment experience dredged up from the depths. One might think that these queerphobic legislators would be tired of stepping directly on rakes, yet they stride confidently ever-forward.
This week, it was Missouri State Senator Nick Schroer’s turn on the the right’s national hypocrisy tour. Tennessee Governor Bill Lee and Texas State Rep. Nate Schlatzine both had their own recent moments in the spotlight, but Schroer is ready to take the stage.
Fellow Missouri politician Justice Horn took to Twitter on Monday to give Schroer a taste of his own dragged up medicine. Horn posted an old photo of the state senator in a blonde pigtail wig, with fake breasts under a t-shirt reading “Super sexy girl”. Mhm.
Let’s just say he was busted in more ways than one:
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Here’s a picture of Republican Missouri State Senator, Nick Schroer in drag.
I’m starting to see a pattern—the politicians that are the most outspoken about banning drag, have photos that later surface of them in drag. There’s a whole lot of projection going on from their side. pic.twitter.com/VbfeykfdBb
His spokespeople say there’s nothing “sinister” about him interacting with constituents.
Schroer’s response was a limp as they always are, as he insisted that him putting on a wig and makeup for theatrical fun is totally different from when those yucky LGBTQ+ people put on a wig and makeup for theatrical fun.
He really made his case:
Just years ago MO dems used Halloween pics of me. Now it's high school/college pics while in theatre. Next, pics of me as Jesus for stations of the cross to say I'm blasphemous or that time I was the Big Bad Wolf in a student play to allege I'm a furry? Thespian not lesbian 1/ https://t.co/CHatwguVDG
As theater lovers ourselves, we’re unfamiliar with the production featuring a vaguely handsome woman in “super sexy girl” attire, but maybe his drama knowledge is more niche than ours!
It was doubly fun to watch him also jump to the defense of “furry” accusations that no one had brought against him. As a sitting political official, it was incredibly important that he get out ahead of that story.
Glenn’s answer certainly was a collection of words.
Horn followed by doing some beautiful work of speaking to Schroer in the only language he might understand — a.k.a toxic masculinity.
The former let the latter know right away who would come out on top in stats:
Oh, I’ve struck a nerve huh?
Little republican men like you are funny to me, a whole lot of talking for such a small guy. What are you, like under 6ft, probably benching no more than 315. I don’t need to oppress others to feel like a man—but it seems like you do. https://t.co/yrY5ZyRFhl
He then apologized to his future constituents for stooping to Schroer’s level for a moment:
To my faithful followers, I’m sorry you had to see a side of me today that I don’t like to show, but sometimes you got to check some folks on this app.
Lesson of the day: Don’t get in a Twitter fight with a sassy gay educated Black man. If we’re good, we good—period. pic.twitter.com/mQzrxjQiNQ
Glad to see one of these two has some honesty about him.
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It’s not really drag. Don’t really care what he dressed up as for a pep rally.
The drag bans, as written are bad ideas and probably unconstitutional. We could live with out them just fine and have. I could see banning lewd conduct around children. I’m sure that law exists. Specifically calling out drag seems too broad to be legal. A lot of drag is not lewd and most of what I have seen has been tame. Surely a lot of women dress too provocatively around children already. Really bad idea.
It is clearly meant to attack us.
That said, I still think mixing kids with drag queens is a really bad idea…if you’re honest you know it’s not the best idea we’ve had.
Ah, my troll. Why would you say that? Give me some evidence of either. Quote me directly from anything I have every written.
I find it refreshing that people like you can’t wait to come say something negative on anything I post. Even when I agree, unless you support these anti-drag laws. I feel like I have been successful when you’ve been trigger and offer up a brilliant one sentence bon mot that really is just something rude.
People like you behave just like the Trump worshipers…don’t think, repeat, attack at every chance. Heck, I’m on your side on 95% of LGBT issues and you can’t even find the decency to not be a prick at every chance. No wonder people don’t like us…it’s the company I keep.
Very disingenuous Lumpers. You regularly site anti-trans propaganda like the NY Times stories about the tiny minority who detransition without really researching them and finding out what the vast majority of trans people say and feel.
I do believe the current practice is to rush teens through transition. Not a transphobic position. It is one of wanting the best care for kids. The de-transition percentage isn’t trivial, as you lie. A non-cheerleader would admit that. I fully support people who want to transition, I just think we need to be careful with kids. You seem to have no care for the well being of children. It is a consistent theme with your politics.
The NYT, a liberal newspaper, well regarded by all liberals, stands by its reporting. People have complained, but have not successfully identified errors. There are differences of opinion, like yours and mine. One of us is respectful of those differences, one is not.
You do not know, nor do I what the vast majority of trans people think. I know enough trans people, personally, who would not agree with your rosy view. I’ll listen to them.
In short, why are you so nasty? Now, bring some real examples, or be shown to be a bad person again.
Lumps, on this very story you’re pushing anti-trans propaganda while claiming you’re not anti-trans.
Look into the vast number of people who are happy with being trans and who might not have made it through with the current laws being pushed in places like Florida. The fact is, you only site the studies that are being used by anti-trans activists because you’re anti-trans.
Just admit your animas because when you defend yourself you just continue to spread propaganda which only helps the people who are hurting trans people and damaging actual trans people.
There’s nothing wrong with Kids seeing Drag because, to them, it’s just silly fun. It’s adults who try to attach some sexual connotation to it. Talk about projection.
“I do believe the current practice is to rush teens through transition. Not a transphobic position. It is one of wanting the best care for kids. ”
Rather than your beliefs why don’t we work in a world of fact? Who long does it take for kid expressing gender dysphoria to start transitioning|? What steps in the standard or care do you feel like are rushed?
If you are actually interested in kids getting the best care then why are you placing your beliefs in how they should be treated above those of medical professions and guardians?
“The de-transition percentage isn’t trivial”
Citation?
“Now, bring some real examples,”
Why are you asking for people to do what you have failed to do?
Clearly you don’t know anything about the rules and timelines for children to transition. Why are you even talking about it? I’ll tell you. If a child states they will kill themselves if they don’t get to transition, and one parent agrees, they will typically be given puberty blockers and, depending on age, HRT on the first visit to a doctor – informed consent.
The studies in this area are weak. Little money has been put into clinical studies. Most work is either done by people biased for or against gender dysmorphia. More research needs to be done.
One source – The Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism -“Detransition Among Transgender and Gender-Diverse People—An Increasing and Increasingly Complex Phenomenon” 2022
“Although the literature is sparse on the topic, the study by Roberts et al highlights the important issue that a proportion of our TGD patients elect to discontinue hormonal treatment. As endocrinologists, we may overlook this aspect of care as many patients who detransition no longer present to our clinics for follow-up. In fact, one study of 100 detransitioners found that only 24% of respondents informed their clinicians that they had detransitioned (5).”
24% hmmm. I think that seems high, but there. There are other places in the report that would indicate 11% for trans women and 4% for trans men de-transitioned. This may be a difference between people who started and gave up versus those who went thorough with transition and de-transitioned. Still not negligible. But, read on.
“With the increase in numbers of persons presenting for gender-affirming care, shift to informed consent, likely reduced proportion of TGD people receiving an adequate mental health evaluation, and a change in the distribution of TGD people to more assigned female at birth and nonbinary individuals, there is reason to believe that the numbers of detransitioners may increase. It is quite possible that low reported rates of detransition and regret in previous populations will no longer apply to current populations. More research is needed to compare care and outcomes between the less restrictive informed consent model and the stricter interdisciplinary model pioneered in the Netherlands. Although the rates of discontinuing hormones and detransition may change over time, our compassionate care can remain a constant.”
So, this indicates informed consent is the only hurdle for being prescribed. Consistent with my real-world actual experience. All news to you, I’m sure.
Why are you resistant to wanting greater caution and care before transitioning kids? informed consent isn’t good enough. Why are you so nasty? Why do I bother trying to communicate with someone so dismissive? I guess I shouldn’t.
So you are dodging the questions I asked. This would be the second time I have asked for citation and you have dodged rather than provide it.
“If a child states they will kill themselves if they don’t get to transition, and one parent agrees, they will typically be given puberty blockers and, depending on age, HRT on the first visit to a doctor – informed consent.”
So, this is entirely inaccurate. Anyone under the age of puberty blockers and not given them and HRT is extremely rate with minors. Gender affirming care standards for minors are that you let them express their gender and support them in doing so. So, use the name they choose, pronouns and physical presentation. That is it.
You seem to have a profound reading comprehension issue.
24% is the number of people that reported they de-transitioned. It’s the precent that informed their healthcare provider.
So… congrats, you can’t answer simple questions about the medical care that you are advocating against and you can’t don’t understand the parts of a study you quoted.
Forget informed consent, why are you so against being informed?
I have to be honest. Looking back on my life, if I could have chosen to transition when I was eight to ten, I probably would have jumped at the chance. I am very happy I didn’t.
Stating trans kids are given puberty blockers on their first visit to a Dr is soooo Fox news. Unfortunately their viewers believe it. Ask all the trans people you know and most will tell you they had to undergo therapy sessions and counseling before medication is even discussed.
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abfab
So now he goes with the hyper-macho-proud-boys-look. That a boy.
abfab
How very Pippi Longstocking!
LumpyPillows
He might have ginger pubes….
bachy
I hate seeing men tearing down each others’ masculinity. It’s such a sad strategy.
rocmond
Is it just me or did he get his brows done in the pic with the beard?
abfab
It’s not just you, and FYI he get his anus bleached, his nails painted and his nipples peirced AND he wears Chanel #5.
LumpyPillows
It’s not really drag. Don’t really care what he dressed up as for a pep rally.
The drag bans, as written are bad ideas and probably unconstitutional. We could live with out them just fine and have. I could see banning lewd conduct around children. I’m sure that law exists. Specifically calling out drag seems too broad to be legal. A lot of drag is not lewd and most of what I have seen has been tame. Surely a lot of women dress too provocatively around children already. Really bad idea.
It is clearly meant to attack us.
That said, I still think mixing kids with drag queens is a really bad idea…if you’re honest you know it’s not the best idea we’ve had.
dbmcvey
@Lumps
And you are historically anti-trans and anti-drag, so we need to consider that.
LumpyPillows
Ah, my troll. Why would you say that? Give me some evidence of either. Quote me directly from anything I have every written.
I find it refreshing that people like you can’t wait to come say something negative on anything I post. Even when I agree, unless you support these anti-drag laws. I feel like I have been successful when you’ve been trigger and offer up a brilliant one sentence bon mot that really is just something rude.
People like you behave just like the Trump worshipers…don’t think, repeat, attack at every chance. Heck, I’m on your side on 95% of LGBT issues and you can’t even find the decency to not be a prick at every chance. No wonder people don’t like us…it’s the company I keep.
Eternal.Cowboy
It’s always funny to see Lump go hysterical when called out.
mailliw110
Do circus clowns scare you too?
LumpyPillows
There’s my trolls. Your fan club dues need to be paid, deadbeats.
How we doing in Florida? Tennessee, Texas? How’s your plan working out. Ramifications for being douches.
DBMC
Very disingenuous Lumpers. You regularly site anti-trans propaganda like the NY Times stories about the tiny minority who detransition without really researching them and finding out what the vast majority of trans people say and feel.
LumpyPillows
I do believe the current practice is to rush teens through transition. Not a transphobic position. It is one of wanting the best care for kids. The de-transition percentage isn’t trivial, as you lie. A non-cheerleader would admit that. I fully support people who want to transition, I just think we need to be careful with kids. You seem to have no care for the well being of children. It is a consistent theme with your politics.
The NYT, a liberal newspaper, well regarded by all liberals, stands by its reporting. People have complained, but have not successfully identified errors. There are differences of opinion, like yours and mine. One of us is respectful of those differences, one is not.
You do not know, nor do I what the vast majority of trans people think. I know enough trans people, personally, who would not agree with your rosy view. I’ll listen to them.
In short, why are you so nasty? Now, bring some real examples, or be shown to be a bad person again.
dbmcvey
Lumps, on this very story you’re pushing anti-trans propaganda while claiming you’re not anti-trans.
Look into the vast number of people who are happy with being trans and who might not have made it through with the current laws being pushed in places like Florida. The fact is, you only site the studies that are being used by anti-trans activists because you’re anti-trans.
Just admit your animas because when you defend yourself you just continue to spread propaganda which only helps the people who are hurting trans people and damaging actual trans people.
Jon in Canada
Clearly you’ve never gone to a Christmas Panto.
There’s nothing wrong with Kids seeing Drag because, to them, it’s just silly fun. It’s adults who try to attach some sexual connotation to it. Talk about projection.
gregg2010
It depends. Most drag queens are pretty out there. I agree best not to mix with children.
dbmcvey
Also Lumps,
You blamed the Dems losing Congress on Drag Queens and Trans people.
You also went on and on about how monstrous trans adolescents are not thinking about how;
1. Most adolescents are terrible
2. Maturing in a body that you think is wrong might make anyone go a little off.
AuntieXhrist
But you approve of 750 Baptist Pastords, Youth Ministers charged w/ molestation according to Chronicle Investigation
Eternal.Cowboy
“I do believe the current practice is to rush teens through transition. Not a transphobic position. It is one of wanting the best care for kids. ”
Rather than your beliefs why don’t we work in a world of fact? Who long does it take for kid expressing gender dysphoria to start transitioning|? What steps in the standard or care do you feel like are rushed?
If you are actually interested in kids getting the best care then why are you placing your beliefs in how they should be treated above those of medical professions and guardians?
“The de-transition percentage isn’t trivial”
Citation?
“Now, bring some real examples,”
Why are you asking for people to do what you have failed to do?
LumpyPillows
Clearly you don’t know anything about the rules and timelines for children to transition. Why are you even talking about it? I’ll tell you. If a child states they will kill themselves if they don’t get to transition, and one parent agrees, they will typically be given puberty blockers and, depending on age, HRT on the first visit to a doctor – informed consent.
The studies in this area are weak. Little money has been put into clinical studies. Most work is either done by people biased for or against gender dysmorphia. More research needs to be done.
One source – The Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism -“Detransition Among Transgender and Gender-Diverse People—An Increasing and Increasingly Complex Phenomenon” 2022
“Although the literature is sparse on the topic, the study by Roberts et al highlights the important issue that a proportion of our TGD patients elect to discontinue hormonal treatment. As endocrinologists, we may overlook this aspect of care as many patients who detransition no longer present to our clinics for follow-up. In fact, one study of 100 detransitioners found that only 24% of respondents informed their clinicians that they had detransitioned (5).”
24% hmmm. I think that seems high, but there. There are other places in the report that would indicate 11% for trans women and 4% for trans men de-transitioned. This may be a difference between people who started and gave up versus those who went thorough with transition and de-transitioned. Still not negligible. But, read on.
“With the increase in numbers of persons presenting for gender-affirming care, shift to informed consent, likely reduced proportion of TGD people receiving an adequate mental health evaluation, and a change in the distribution of TGD people to more assigned female at birth and nonbinary individuals, there is reason to believe that the numbers of detransitioners may increase. It is quite possible that low reported rates of detransition and regret in previous populations will no longer apply to current populations. More research is needed to compare care and outcomes between the less restrictive informed consent model and the stricter interdisciplinary model pioneered in the Netherlands. Although the rates of discontinuing hormones and detransition may change over time, our compassionate care can remain a constant.”
So, this indicates informed consent is the only hurdle for being prescribed. Consistent with my real-world actual experience. All news to you, I’m sure.
Why are you resistant to wanting greater caution and care before transitioning kids? informed consent isn’t good enough. Why are you so nasty? Why do I bother trying to communicate with someone so dismissive? I guess I shouldn’t.
Eternal.Cowboy
So you are dodging the questions I asked. This would be the second time I have asked for citation and you have dodged rather than provide it.
“If a child states they will kill themselves if they don’t get to transition, and one parent agrees, they will typically be given puberty blockers and, depending on age, HRT on the first visit to a doctor – informed consent.”
So, this is entirely inaccurate. Anyone under the age of puberty blockers and not given them and HRT is extremely rate with minors. Gender affirming care standards for minors are that you let them express their gender and support them in doing so. So, use the name they choose, pronouns and physical presentation. That is it.
You seem to have a profound reading comprehension issue.
24% is the number of people that reported they de-transitioned. It’s the precent that informed their healthcare provider.
So… congrats, you can’t answer simple questions about the medical care that you are advocating against and you can’t don’t understand the parts of a study you quoted.
Forget informed consent, why are you so against being informed?
gregg2010
I have to be honest. Looking back on my life, if I could have chosen to transition when I was eight to ten, I probably would have jumped at the chance. I am very happy I didn’t.
abfab
Greg, being honest is best. I’m sorry that you think children can’t be around drag queens, so, please….. keep YOURS away.
dbmcvey
@Gregg,
I don’t believe you. You wouldn’t have transitioned at 10 because they wouldn’t have done it and you’re not trans.
AuntieXhrist
It’s acceptable for children to come out as hetero but not gay. Why the prejudice!
Fname Optional Lname
Stating trans kids are given puberty blockers on their first visit to a Dr is soooo Fox news. Unfortunately their viewers believe it. Ask all the trans people you know and most will tell you they had to undergo therapy sessions and counseling before medication is even discussed.
dbmcvey
Exactly. I’ve known a few people who transitioned and it was never a fast, easy prospect.
Kangol2
Another GQP closet creep. Just keep your eyes on him when he’s around the young’uns!
Consider This
I’ll bet the Senator is just thrilled to see that picture once again surface! Memories, memories…
HMFan
If anything, get him on false advertising because that is definitely NOT “Super Sexy.”