It was a long road. I did it in my own way. And my own time. When I was ready: emotionally, mentally, spiritually. When I had a support system in place. I think that’s critical. To lay a solid foundation first and then make the big life decision.
“I don’t think the average exec decides not to hire openly gay actors because they hate gay people. Hollywood is a business. It’s corporate. It’s about profit.
“And if I’m an exec and I’m trying to please my corporate masters, and guarantee a big opening weekend – and you only get one shot at the box office – and I want to keep a roof over my head and I have to choose between hiring a straight actor for the lead in my movie and an actor who’s openly gay, I’m going to go with straight actor because I don’t want to risk alienating various demographics.” — Wentworth Miller, discussing his decision to come out and the inner workings of the Hollywood system in the November issue of Attitude
Brian
When a male chooses to identify as gay, he’s also saying “I reject vagina”. How can a man expect to become big in Hollywood if he rejects vagina?
Hollywood began on the casting couch. This is a metaphor for the tendency of women to sell their bodies to men in exchange for a reward – such as a role in a Hollywood movie.
Men who reject vagina have never been welcomed into this Hollywood model unless as enablers. Enablers don’t become stars, however.
Baba Booey Fafa Fooey
Well, that’s unfortunate that he feels that but he’s a gay man and this is very typical of gay men: cowardice and submissive. I’m SO PLEASED that Ridley Scott didn’t feel this way when cast Sigourney Weaver in Alien as Ripley (who was written as a man originally). That he took a chance on a woman to be a hero in an action film regardless of what male movie goers thought and created the top five movie heroes of all time. But, gay men are just another specie…they are no Ridley Scott.
Brian
@Baba Booey Fafa Fooey: The female action hero is largely a myth. Women simply do not have the physical strength that men have. Keep swallowing what Hollywood feeds you.
CaliKyle
@Brian: The number of women who would prefer to trade sex for success or survival (more often the case) could all fit in that small, dark, bitter closet of yours with room to spare. You routinely express way too much animosity toward females and ignore the historical fact that they’ve been treated as a biologically inferior socioeconomic underclass by men. Temper your expressed views and criticisms accordingly.
Baba Booey Fafa Fooey
@Brian: What are talking about? Ellen Ripley is up there with Luke Skywalker.
Scottsdale
@ Brian, you are a piece of work. I have been reading your comments for over a year and it is the same crap. Go start your own island of men somewhere since women appear to be the root of all evil for you. I would live on an island filled of women then ever have to have dinner with you.
You don’t think women can kick butt, here’s to karma when you get served by a woman. My favorite action and superheroes are women. Some of us gay men actually respect, admire, honor and love women.
Women have been oppressed by men since the dawn of time; men are to be blamed.
Kangol
@Scottsdale: Brian is a gay misogynist and homonationalist. He detests women, effeminate men, and trans people, and loves Donald Trump and authoritarianism. He’s also made r@cist comments in the past too, including most recently about Keith Carlos (anti-Latinx, surprisingly, and not anti-black, though he’s gone there too). He wants all the privileges that powerful straight white men in this society enjoy, except that he’s gay. There are, unfortunately, many people like him.
Brian
Hollywood is designed to make money. It won’t make money if the characters dis-empower women, the major demographic that wants to see romantic movies.
Male homosexual desire dis-empowers women. It represents rejection of vagina. Show me a woman who enjoys having her vagina rejected and I’ll show you beach-front land in the Florida Keys that you can buy for a buck.
Women are terrified of male homosexual desire. They don’t want anything to do with it unless it’s packaged and segregated as the feminized “gay” concept.
CaliKyle
@Brian: Women are only “terrified of male homosexual desire” if they suspect or sense it in their boyfriends or husbands. Too many men are not only terrified of male homo desire but violently enraged by it. As for the entertainment industry, females have long supported the careers of rumored and obviously gay performers. All other things being equal, any studio exec who casts a male actor who is perceived as hetero over one who is allegedly or openly gay is more concerned with alienating straight or homophobic males – they and you might disingenuously lay all the blame on women but your just being cowards indulging in misogyny and homophobia. Bottom line is theres no good reason, imagined loss of profits included, to continue to discrimimate against gay actors and entertainers.
Tête Carrée
@Baba Booey Fafa Fooey: I’d give you shit for your homophobic comments but everyone else here seems to be more interested in laying on their stomachs with their chin in their hands gazing up adoringly at Judy and Lisa.
Brian
@CaliKyle:Men who react against their homo desires are doing it to appease women who find such desires objectionable. Women are thus the primary cause of homophobic self-loathing in men.
Don’t give women a pass on this. I know you love your Judys and your Barbras and your Madonnas but, in terms of gender politics, women view male homosexual desire as a threat to female privilege.
Peacemaker
Me thinks Brian has mommy issues for sure!
Baba Booey Fafa Fooey
@Tête Carrée: What’s homophobic about my comments?
Baba Booey Fafa Fooey
@Tête Carrée: You mean Liza?
CaliKyle
@Brian: Where’s the evidence for that, Brian? Men historically haven’t concerned themselves too much with womens phobias and fears. They have been and continue to be far more concerned with the hostility and rejection they’d experience from other men should their homo desires or any same sex hook ups be made known. As for the laughable contention that you and some other mo leveled about being enamored by female entertainers? Barely warrants aknowledgment but in my case at least name someone from my generation. Still wouldnt change the fact that my views are informed by actual history while yours and Tetes are fueled by self loathing and ignorance.
CaliKyle
@Tête Carrée: But does anyone spend more time laying on his stomach than you, Tete? No shame in it. If it werent for boys like you my diet would consist only of fish and not the kind of cakes I crave most.
Mo Bro
Mr. Miller speaks the truth. Hollywood is a business, not a liberal arts college that caters to safe spaces and hurt feelings.
@Baba Booey Fafa Fooey:
Somewhat off topic, but Brian is correct, in a way. The Hollywood female action hero is purely a male fantasy, a construct of men who want to convince you (and themselves) that women are just as strong as men. Sigourney Weaver, Scarlett Johnasson, Linda Hamilton, Milla Jovovich, Kate Beckinsale, Zoe Saldana, Uma Thurman, Angelina Jolie . . . all of these “strong women” roles were created by men with a strong sexual undercurrent to them. Ask yourself this: Would Ridley Scott have had a male Ripley strip down to his underwear in Alien’s final scene? Highly doubtful, because he doesn’t fantasize about half-naked men. So, we get female action heroines who unrealistically kick men’s butts and dress scantily—hence, pure male fantasy.
Bromancer7
Someone needs to tell this to Neil Patrick Harris. Apparently he’s been doing this whole “gay actor/leading man on TV and in movies” thing all wrong for years.
But I completely understand where Wentworth is coming from. The problem isn’t that the audience won’t accept an openly gay actor in a leading role, it’s that Hollywood is afraid to go there. It’s unfortunate because there are a number of very talented (and easy on the eyes) gay actors who deserve to be A-listers and sadly are unlikely to get the chance.
Baba Booey Fafa Fooey
@Mo Bro: Okay sure, yes. But, Ripley wasn’t intented to be a male fantasy. They added that underwear scene at the end. But, I’ll give you that. But, the studio did not want a female (or for her to survive at the end of Alien – but thst’s a different topic). Ridley Scott fought the studio to get what he wanted back in 1978 when female action heroes were unheard of. And, you’re applying today’s beliefs about women to Ripley – women 30-40 years ago were not scene as anything but subordinate. Women couldn’t even own credit cards in their own name back in the 70s.
CaliKyle
@Bromancer7: Nailed it. Well said.
Baba Booey Fafa Fooey
@Bromancer7: The problem isn’t that the audience won’t accept an openly gay actor in a leading role.
That is completely is false. That’s too bad that so many gay people feel this way. I’m if it’s an inherent trait of gay people or gay men to be passive and weak or if it’s a generational thing. I don’t feel that way – so I’m not weak and passive, but I think I’m the minority. Maybe in 20 years gay men like me will be the majority. And, if not – then most gay men are passive and will always be passive.
ppp111
You would think it would at least be easier by now but I guess I can understand why guys feel they have to keep it private. This country is changing rapidly but just because it’s changing, doesn’t mean that everyone will be open to accepting. Personally, it should be a private personal decision but it would be nice if there were more openly gay actors.
@Brian:
I have to disagree with you to a point that women are to blame for the homophobia in Hollywood. Women don’t fear male homosexuality but they’re not attracted to it either. I remember an article from the Huffington Post about the number one turn off for most women. Want to make a guess what that was? Yeah, if a guy slept with another man. You can’t force people to be attracted to something if there’s a turn off. Simply put, men are attracted to lesbianism but women aren’t necessarily attracted to male homosexuality, at least not in that way. Almost every straight woman I’ve met say they love their gay male friends but not in that way.
Baba Booey Fafa Fooey
“You would think it would at least be easier by now but I guess I can understand why guys feel they have to keep it private. This country is changing rapidly but just because it’s changing, doesn’t mean that everyone will be open to accepting. Personally, it should be a private personal decision but it would be nice if there were more openly gay actors.”
You know, you’re right. Who cares about this sh!t. All that truly matters is gay for pay porn. I tried to fight it and felt I deserved more but I can see why 99% gay men love it. I mean, I shot the biggest load to seancody this morning. I’m going back in the closet and am going to jerk off to gay for pay porn all day. Being gay should be private- I agree. I mean millions of people going “ewwwwww”. Who needs that? I’ll just let the government handle our rights, the Clinton administration hopefully legalizing job and housing protection across all 50 states, but what good what that do for the dead gays under Muslims? Oh well. I’m too busy jerking off to straight guys f-cking each other to care I can’t believe I missed out on all that gay for pay sh!t all these years. I can see why gay for pay is so important to gay men.
Can somebody post the Huffpo link about women thinking male homosexuality is a turn off? I do know Asian girls are the leaders when ot comes to gay erotica – I believe. Maybe it’sban American thing: Women finding gay men gross like gay men find gay men gross.
Brian
It’s not just Hollywood that is highly homophobic about male-male interactions. Look at the music business – there is not one openly homosexually inclined male performer on the Billboard Hot 100. Not one.
The common thread throughout the American entertainment business is how it is dominated by women’s tastes and women’s privileges. Women are highly anti-male homosexual desire, and this is reflected in content..
A lot of you are falling into the horrible habit of defending the female gender no matter what. Time to remove the scales from your eyes, guys.
Brian
@Baba Booey Fafa Fooey: I think you need to distinguish between “gay” and “male homosexual desire (MHD). They are two different things.
“Gay” represents the political wing of MHD. It is a small, feminized, segregated idea designed by the Left to make MHD as less threatening as possible to women. Think of “gay” as the sell-out that was necessary to win the support of women in the fight to remove criminal sanctions on male-male interactions.
MHD, on the other hand, is the un-tamed, non-political reality of male-male interactions. MHD is present in virtually all men at various strengths. Fear of MHD is what drives women to support criminal sanctions on male-male interactions. Fear of MHD is what drove Queen Victoria’s Parliament to ban male homosexuality but not female homosxuality.
Unfortunately, “gay” has superseded MHD in how we discuss sexuality in the modern West.
Baba Booey Fafa Fooey
@Brian: It doesn’t matter – I just jerk off to gay for pay porn now. That’s all that matters in the gay male world and I’ve learned to submit and accept it. I bet Wentworth Miller jerks off to gay for pay porn. Only a gay man who makes those kinds of pathetic comments would.
But, I will say before I head over to CorbinFisher for the rest of the year that it’s unfortunate he’s in the position he’s in and he has a pulpit like the media to use as a platform to spread his BS to so many. His comments are not true or responsible but a reflection of his attitude towards gay men and himself. He’s no different than the Christians who try to take away our rights or the Muslims who kill us: He supports, agrees with and admits to perpetuating an oppressive homophobia that keeps gay men from realizing their full potential in every facet of life. It’s sad that so many gays agree and suport him. That attitude needs to change or else gay people will have more things to worry about besides Islamic immigrants killing us. We have problems outside AND inside our own community and it’s all because of apathy and self-hate. Hope it changes – for all our sake.
CaliKyle
@Brian: Ive not seen anyone here defend females “no matter what” yet we have all witnessed you attacking and blaming women continuously “no matter what.” Perhaps as one poster suggested you have big bad mommy issues or maybe a pack of mean girls ruthlessly bullied you in middle school but whatever the root cause of you anger toward the female sex, it prevents you from being rational and fair when commenting on matters of gender.
Bauhaus
@CaliKyle:
Brian covets. Women possess what Brian can’t – the attention, approval, and the desires of straight men.