There are bigots and then there’s Maggie Gallagher, President of the National Organization for Marriage, a conservative group that serves as a front for anti-gay discrimination which put out an ad this week that’s riddled with fear and manipulation– as well as some entertaining storm footage. Gallagher has become the last-best hope for the anti-gay rights movement, which in itself is pretty laughable.
As the arguments against gay marriage fall apart, Gallagher, in her own mental storm, has cobbled together a potpourri of false maternal concern, the argument that gay marriage will somehow destroy heterosexuals lives and the ludicrous argument that the real reason we want to get married and have equal rights is to destroy the American family and the church.
But just who is Maggie Gallagher– and why are people listening to her?
A Yale graduate in Religious Studies, Gallagher has a knack for being on the wrong side of controversy. She first came to prominence by penning a defense of Dan Quayle’s criticism of the unwed mother subplot on Murphy Brown and ever since, she’s been a reliable shill for the Republican party. This isn’t surprising considering they pay her for her opinion.
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In 2002 Gallagher testified to Congress, arguing in favor of Bush’s proposed $300 million program to strengthen families. The one thing she forgot to leave out; she was on the Bush payroll to the tune of $21,500. When the Washington Post‘s Howard Kurtz uncovered the story, she replied, “Did I violate journalistic ethics by not disclosing it? I don’t know. You tell me.” The Economist wrote about her in a piece entitled “The Etiquette of Bribery.”
But political hacks don’t die, they just get cushy jobs at necon think tanks like the National Organization of Marriage. Gallagher has become cable news’ go-to gal for the anti-gay marriage side of the story and she tries to make the most of it, portraying herself as a woman who doesn’t have any desire to infringe on the rights of gays and lesbians, but is simply, deeply concerned about gay marriage’s impact on straight couples.
On Hardball yesterday, she went tete-a-tete with HRC’s Joe Solomonese as they argued about her new ad, which Joe characterized as a series of lies.
Watch Hardball with Maggie Gallagher:
One of her biggest arguments is that school teachers will now be forced to teach about gay marriage in school, though in what class they’re now teaching about marriage of any kind, she doesn’t say. She points to a Massachusetts Catholic adoption agency who was forced to allow gay adoptions or face being closed down as a sign of the coming apocalypse. Solomonese points out that institutions wishing to be involved in the public sphere ought to follow the laws of the state.
What’s most appalling is that Gallagher’s arguments boil down to “If we give gays and lesbians equal rights, than in the public sphere we’ll have to treat them equally.” Duh, that’s the whole point. However, she obfuscates her point so that it sounds as if the equal treatment of gays and lesbians will force the private domains of the church and the home to change as well.
Of course, Gallagher will never point out that there are plenty of churches that welcome gays and lesbians with open arms and that there are plenty of families that do so as well. Her fear is that with civil equality, personal attitudes will change as well. She fears what “the next generation of children” will be like, growing up in a society that treats gay people equally.
She gives the LGBT movement far too much credit, though. We know all too well that you can’t force people to be tolerant– they have to do it themselves. That changes doesn’t happen in the courts or on the floor of a legislature; it happens in the individual hearts and minds of Americans.
That Gallagher’s made it her life quest to keep Americans from being a more tolerant and caring people is infuriating, for sure, but at it’s core, it’s just sad.
Mark
This country can’t become post-Christian fast enough for me.
BTW, is Maggie married? Does Maggie know any gay couples who have children? I suspect the last two answers are no and no.
Frunced
FUCK YOU, YOU INTOLERANT BITCH, FUCK YOU, ETC, ETC.
What a stupid, annoying, bitch. Put a chlorophormed cloth in her mouth and leave her at a ditch somewhere. She’s obviously an idiot WHO should be shot for her hateful beliefs.
Why should we listen to such uninformed, idiotic, sexually-unsatisfied bitches?
burger king
Well written piece, thanks.
I think the language of the public and private spheres is particularly helpful in the discussion.
I also appreciate the shout out to progressive loving churches and families. I’m blessed to be a part of both.
Brian Miller
Maggie spends all her time on the road, not maintaining her own family, to lecture other people on how they should maintain their families.
And every time I see her, she’s put on three pounds since her last appearance. I suppose that while God may hate fags, he loves Little Debbie.
scott
i love it, when she tells Joe not to call people liars when Maggie did the same thing not several minutes earlier.
she’s awful.
scott
oh and the audition tapes for that commercial. Priceless. So great, that they found them and posted it on youtube.
Check out the rebuttal on that commercial.
http://www.hrc.org/endthelies/
jason
Maggie looks as if she’s got a corn cob stuck up her cunt.
jason
She might also be a disgruntled lesbian with penis envy.
REBELComx
So reeeaaallly, the gay marriage issue had nothing to do with ANY of the points that commercial or Maggie made. Those places lost their tax status, shut down business, etc. because of already existing non-discrimination laws which were on the books before same-sex marriage or civil unions were legal in those states. Gay marriage had NOTHING to do with any of those incidents.
Of course, she has to turn it into a gay marriage issue because if she takes on the non-discrimination laws, she’ll be shown for the simple, vile bigot she really is.
Oh, and yeah Maggie, I’m sure the “Gathering Storm” commercial with the scary dark clouds in the background and the forlorn looking people cringing over their “loss of rights” is not about FEAR at all.
Webster
There’s no Commandment against gay marriage — but it seems to me that one of the Big Ten has something to say about LYING!
Alec
Well if this is about religious freedom and violations of parental rights, why isn’t Gallagher encouraging federal lawsuits to make sure states comply with the First Amendment and substantive due process guarantees?
Oh right, because those claims are baseless when it comes to a school’s ability to teach tolerance in the schools (students can exempt themselves, btw, with parental consent; it is about forcing EVERYONE to live by their playbook) and when they are engaged in the adoption business, which by necessity is controlled by the state.
So there’s nothing new here, nothing unexpected, and nothing unconstitutional. As they like to tell us when we’re fighting for our rights and facing hostile courts, why don’t they just petition their legislatures? If the idea has merit and they can persuade enough people, there shouldn’t be a problem. 🙂
Chris
The issues she sites in the ads are mostly from states — CA, NJ — that outlaw gay marriage, meaning that what the ads the really protesting is equal protection under the law. Sorry Mags, no one is repealing the equal protection clause of state constitutions or the 14th ammendment.
walt zipprian
Man, she’s ugly. On the inside. Like her soul has cancer.
markus
straight folks don’t need us gays to fuck up their marriages, they do that by themselves just fine!
what’s the statistics on divorce and shattered families in this country?
all that is happening before us gays even get the right to marry!! we haven’t even started marriage equality and all those poor “straight” christian families are falling apart!!
it’s painful to watch BIGGOT MAGGIE teach hate around the country and trying to sell it as christianity, but she does more damage to herself and her ‘kind’ than any gay union or gay family ever could – she needs to get more airtime – YES I SAID IT, more airtime for maggie, because she’s her best own ANTI-anti-gay advert, we should give her an award for makin it easier for us to achieve equality and respect in the longrun!
you go girl! have another donut and spit some more hateful lies!!!
AlanInSLC
@Brian Miller:
I love the Little Debbie comment. That rocks!
Lance Rockland
Maggie Gallagher is a fat fucking pig.
Now the Republican Governor of Rhode Island and his wife have thrown in with these anti-gay bigots. Our state has 10.5% unemployment and a $350 million deficit, and he’s worried about GAY MARRIAGE!
oneway
To my mind, Maggie Gallagher is playing right into our hands.
The public vs private discussion is exactly the one that we should be having right now. As more and more gays come out in all those ordinary ways to their friends, families, and acquaintances, we’ve been wiping away privately held fear or whatever.
In short, there is a decreasing number of people who cherish their own private bigotry — or to be more sympathetic, their ignorance.
But for those who do cherish that right — and it is a person’s right — to hold bigoted views, psst!, there will be no law against it. Just as there are no laws against having privately bigoted views about race.
Most people can be persuaded (and already have been) that gay people deserve some kind of framework for partnerships, civil unions or marriage.
But since Maggie’s central claim is that she wants to preserve her right to private bigotry, well, that just doesn’t sounds like a principal that will endear itself to very many people.
Dave
While she definitely is a raging homophobe…
She does raise a valid point – how robust are the protections for religious groups that do not support marriage for gays and lesbians. Obviously there are issues that need to be discussed as far as protections for religious groups who do not agree with gay marriage.
… and just cause a religious person does not agree with gay marriage doesn’t mean they are a bigot – there are plenty of people who disagree with gay marriage but would give gays the right to marry because in this country religion does not dictate legislation. I know a lot of religious christians, jews, and muslims who are tolerant of gays and lesbians and believe we should be able to have the same civil rights as they do (marriage rights), they just want to make sure that their religious freedom is not infringed upon. (Just like laws making clear that Catholic hospitals don’t have to perform abortions, or give out condoms). They have valid concerns.
Chad
This is Maggie’s personal email if you want to drop her a line:
[email protected]
outskirt.hostess
Maggie Gallagher makes gay men fuck their boyfriends harder and makes lesbians cringe at the fact that she owns a vagina. It’s kind of 50/50 for and against gay rights.
Yale??? Damn that place is going downhill.
rigs
she thinks the world will collapse if gays get married? Either she’s dumb enough to actually believe it, OR she’s just using it as a front for plain our bigotry and hatred.
Chitown Kev
@Chad:
I’d like to drop Maggie off of the Golden Gate Bridge but we are talking about a catastrophic Pacfic tsunami if that happened.
oneway
@ 18 — Dave
Substitute “black” for “gay” and get back to me on whether you are sympathize to the “valid” concerns.
One thing to say that churches don’t have protections from having to perform same-sex weddings. They have the First Amendment — any extra protections are redundant. (Though it was convenient for all sides that the Iowa decision explicitly called this out.)
Quite another to compare religious protections to Catholic hospitals preserving their freedoms from performing abortions. You think Catholic hospitals should be allowed to deny services to gay people? Just asking.
jbran
@scott: I noticed the same thing. She was so intent on playing the martyr, she can’t even maintain the fact pattern for the INTERVIEW, much less the greater argument.
Honestly, this whole discussion makes me so angry that I have a hard time being articulate.
Z reveals
I heard that bitch take up to ass without condom!
Let her burn in the hell!
macscruff
Wow, Anita Bryant all over again. Who has a pie?
Chad
I’ve seriously been emailing with her and this is her email address. No joke. I say we bombard her inbox with fan mail.
[email protected]
a
@Frunced:
Calm down, don’t stoop to her level (or below it), use your words.
Chad
I wrote: Dear Maggie,
I am a gay man in a long-term relationship, one based on trust, mutual support, and understanding. Why is my relationship not worthy of the protections offered to opposite-sex couples? Why can Brittany Spears marry multiple times in a Vegas drive-through, but my partner and I are relegated to second class citizenry? I pay taxes, I vote, I go to church. I will never be straight.
I’m not working to undo rights granted to straight people. Why are you working so hard to ensure that my partner and I and countless other couples never enjoy benefits you already have?
And she responded:
I’m trying to explain that right now on The Corner (a blog at nationalreview.com) You can look at the first ten parts of that series which is called The Amazing Power of the Culture.
I could say: why are you trying so hard to change the public meaning of marriage? Why not focus on benefits? Why do you need to try to force the law to say something that most Americans just don’t agree with: that your relationship is a marriage?
It probably wouldn’t be a productive conversation but just so you know there are two points of view on this.
Thanks for writing to me.
I always hesitate to reply personally, although I almost always do, because I know folks will want to discuss my answer too.
I’m so sorry I can’t do this one on one with everyone who writes to me. I really really do appreciate your taking the time to do so, and I wanted you to know I read your letters. Maggie
Larry
She looks like Kathy Bates with a meth addiction.
scott
@Chad: I’ve got to give it up to Maggie. At least she replied to you and realizes that any discussion is pointless because she is set in her WRONG way of thinking as we are in our way of thinking.
Alexa
@Larry: That’s an insult to both Kathy Bates and meth addictions.
I can’t be the only one who yelled “shut the fuck up, bitch” while she was talking over Joe S, can I? Why is is these bigots always talk over anyone disagreeing with them? Is it because they know if we’re allowed to actually state our case that most people will agree with us? Or are they just overbearing, disagreeable, obnoxious pricks? Both, probably.
a
From this interview I don’t really see her as bigoted. Of course, I do not agree with anything said, but a bigot is someone who is prejudiced and intolerant of differing opinions without just cause. She has succinctly laid out her point of view, her main thrust being that her conception of marriage brings together both halves of society to raise a family. Although she is extremely idealistic, traditional, and living on another planet, calling her a bigot because you are intolerant of her views is letting her reprehensible views win. Take the high road and explain why she is wrong, don’t drown her out–it’s empowering.
Kevin (not that one)
What we need is an organization called “Rescue Marriage”.
Considering the massive divorce rate among heterosexuals and the instance of forced marriages due to pregnancy, cultural practice or religious fundamentalism, people who support marriage equality are actually rescuing the positive aspects of marriage away from those who are certainly destroying it or trivializing it.
ronnie
Jason, lesbian’s don’t have penis envy…keep it for yourself.
Latebrosus
She is soooooooo not a white card. Definitely colorless, perhaps black and/or red.
playasinmar
White mana, really? Not red?
Crazytheycallme
Having had to work hard to battle my food addiction all my life, I have NOTHING at all deragatory to say about those who are overweight–believe me. What I have an enormous issue with is hypocrisy. I am so sick to death of Fundamentalists and Evangelicals basing their oppression of gays due to their view that somehow the choice to love or not be loved is so very easy, and on par with other sacrifices that folks need to make when they have a cross to burden. These are the same folks who turn up with prostitutes in their cars, rent boys in their closets, and who appear to make a choice to stuff their faces with half a dozen Big Macs a day. Certainly, thyroid and other factors affect weight, but is it possible that every Evangelical who condemns me for loving battles a sluggish thyroid?
While the commandments say nothing about my homosexuality or whom I love, and while Jesus said not a word on the subject, the commandments due address glutony, and Jesus did say a word or two about caring for one’s “temple.”
Fat people everywhere, live large and proud, and I’m the first to stand up and come to your defense (been there, and my husband is a large man, and I love every pound of him), but before some Christian condemns me, let them fully address their real life “choices,” walk the frickin’ walk, and then get back to me for a debate.
Stef
A couple things I would love to argue with Miss Maggie about…
If I started a church tomorrow that said God was white, that white people are superior to any other race, and only white people are the “right” people in the eyes of God, that everyone else’s skin color is a sin…based on some biblical interpretation I have…would she support my decision to try to enact laws that say that teaching that black people are equal to white people in schools is threatening MY PERSONAL BELIEFS and the way I teach my child? Would she support me if I raised all holy hell because a teacher in my child’s second grade class used a picture book at story time that showed illustarations of an African American family?
“The government, by accepting African Americans as equal to that of white people, is absolutely infringing on my rights as a parent to teach my child my faith based ideas and is telling my child that my faith is old, aged, and a form of biggotry, when it’s just my religion.”
(Obviously I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM!!! Just an example!)
There is absolutely NO difference between the African American faith based biggotry and the homosexual biggotry. Her argument, I’m sure, would be that being black isn’t a “practice” like being gay is. But can she prove that EVERY GAY COUPLE that gets married engages in “acts” she deems inappropriate? Hey, I know tons of straight couples that are like, asexual, I’m sure gay couples exist who are more for the companionship than the raging sex. It happens. Can she prove otherwise?
Next question for Miss Maggie…
I’m a surgeon in one of the top hospitals in the country. I absolutely believe that homosexuals should be stoned to death, but seeing as it is illegal to kill people in the US, I cannot follow through with my beliefs. However, a gay man and his partner were just in a terrible car accident. I am the only surgeon on call who can provide the kind of assitance one of them men need to survive. But, seeing as I feel that all gays SHOULD die, if not be killed, I blatantly refuse to do anything that would help the man survive on the basis of my religious freedom.
My hospital fires me for not doing my job. But it’s my against my religion to save sinners like gays.
I find this to be a similar situation to the argument “ell a Christian octor shouldn’t have to inseminate a gay couple (isn’t INV against Christian belief anyway to begin with?), or a Christian pharmacist who refuses to give out plan B/birth control pills.
Here’s the deal – you wanna work at an all Christian pharmacy that doesn’t supply condoms or porn mags or plan b, fine. You want to work at CVS, a non-denominational pharmacy that exists solely to fill prescriptions MEDICAL DOCTORS have deemed relevant in the patient’s life, then do your job. If not, if you wanna be bitchy, then I plan on creating a religion that requires me to sit at home on the couch 200 days out of the year, so that I can go get a job at CVS, then not show up for 7 months and claim religious biggotry and infringement on my religious freedom when my boss fires me for NOT DOING MY JOB.
These people don’t understand that their religion truly means JACK SHIT in the real world. The real world consists of gays, and straights, and lesbians, and single families, and adoptive families, and kids raised by their grandmas, kids raised in foster homes. It consists of people who have sex that don’t want to get pregnant, and people who are gay who DO want to get pregnant. For the same reason most public schools don’t teach Creationism – because it just really DOESN’T MESH WITH THE REALITY OF THE WORLD – most public schools or any public institutions, be it a doctor’s office, dentist office, or a bikkrham yoga place don’t live by way of the bible because it just ISN’T the way the world is.
We don’t stone to death women who had premarital sex, men don’t sell their daughters to rapists, we eat cheeseburgers and I work on Sunday. LIFE GOES ON.
Virilene
I would like to request a clarification on Ms. Gallagher’s biographical background. Her biography vaguely notes that she was a single mother, but that now she is married with two children. I have read allegations that her first child was conceived out of wedlock, and that after being a single mother for some years she subsequently married a much older man with whom she now lives. Does anyone know if she was never married to the father of her first child? Or if she married and then later divorced. Or did her first husband die and leave her as a widow-somehow I don’t think this is the case, or they would refer to her as a widow instead of a ‘single mom’.
While I find her to be repugnant, I don’t particularly like the idea of people condemning her (particularly falsely) for circumstances and choices she may’ve made early in her life. I think I would understand her hysterically strident lies a little better though if I knew that she had had bad experiences with men/preganancy/marriage early on, and had then dedicated her life to fighting for marriage, even if she were going about it in a totally negative, hateful, deceitful, dishonest, anti-Christian way. None more zealous than the misguided convert.
The Christian side of me wants to pray for her, pray that she will receive greater understanding, and that she can redirect the energy she is misusing on hate, lies, condemnation and persecution of gays and lesbians to some positive end.
The cynical side of me says that as long as she is being paid as a hackey-lacky for Republican stink-tanks, she won’t be able to let go of the money and live a truly Christian life.
Can anyone clarify her biography?
Joe Wilson
What happened to her chin??? She’s gained so much weight that her face and neck have merged. She’s been around for years and the pounds keep piling on. At some point with all her outrage, she’s just going to explode from eating too many Hostess Twinkies.
James
I actually pity her. It’s so clear that she’s a miserable person who instead of taking care of her own obvious problems feels the need to obsess about a group of people demanding equal rights.
I know there will be plenty of people, some even from this blog who will disagree with me but I refuse to waste my time getting upset about her and people like her. They are increasingly irrelevant and clearly paranoid and desperate because their “right” to openly display their intolerance and bigotry is coming to an end and they know it.
The Gay Numbers
She’s a conclusion in search of a reason. I disagree that all bigots are no alike. On the most important level- they are.
Voices Heard
Maggie Gallagher
2975 Independence Ave
Bronx, NY 10463
(718) 543-4832
scott
@Voices Heard: LOL. Oh. No. You. Didn’t.
michael
What concerns me here is the way Joe S. handled this debate. While I much prefer his calm demeanor over Mrs. G’s I am concerned that he comes off dispassionate and kind of corporate. Obama did not win the White by convincing the red necks and trailer trash of America to vote for him, he won over those in the middle who were prone to going either way. Mrs. Gallagher’s ignorant lies and rude, angry tirades will definitely appeal to those whose lives consist of watching wrestling on TV and searching for dates at family reunions, Those people we will never win over. They are generally to uneducated, not well traveled, and ignorant about the world outside their trailer parks to be won over. Forget the confederacy, they are a lost cause. What concerns me is how many in the middle does she sway? Those that will help us the most are the folks who are reasonably educated and intelligent Americans that need to be educated about us because they probably have little experience with gay folks. We have to show them our human face and our intelligent emotional side. I think this is the demographic that Ellen D. reaches with her show but their are so many others still that need to see us for who we really are. Only then will we be able to discredit the lies that are spewed by these carnival acts like Mrs. Gallagher. My question is did Joe S. achieve this? Mrs. G
appeals to the lowest level of human nature, we have to appeal to the highest.
Hermitage
I live in Canada where gays can get married. No catastrophe has happened and straights aren’t complaining. I wonder what her explanation for that situation would be. I’m sure she’ll find some lie to scare people.
tricky ricky
gays are the last group the religious have to whom they can pull their going to hell crap and use out right hate religiously.
they are like baptist archie bunkers not being able to use the word nigger any more and lamenting the fact that one day they won’t be able to espouse on why them fag boys is going to hell and using the bible to do it.
tricky ricky
@a: from this interview the only conclusion that can be drawn is that she is a bigot using the bible and stating flat out that she is right, only her view is right, there is no middle gound she is right.
she is right no matter what.
she doesn’t need a real argument for she is right.
and she is using the bible.
she is bigotry 101 of the christian religious right for making religious yet claiming to be secular, arguments.
she is right no matter what anyone else says.
AlanInSLC
QUICK!!! Someone buy this bitch a dildo. She needs a tender touch to relieve some of that pent up bitchiness, and who would be able to give her that other than herself? 🙂
Bruno
It’s amazing what a reaction someone like Maggie gets, when people who were even more instrumental in taking away our rights, like Frank Schubert, hardly get a comment these days. Folks, she’s not a bitch because she’s overweight, she’s a bitch because she wants to deny us our rights while pretending to have nothing against gays. She’s Frank Schubert with a few extra pounds, less power, and less finesse.
Michael
I was at a debate once in NY with Maggie and Evan Wolfson. She said she had a child out of wed lock I am trying to research this to see if it is documented anywhere. Height of hypocrisy
SammySeattle
@Dave: The laws are as robust as they need to be. There has not been one case related to gay marriage of a church being forced to perform or accept anything contradictory to its beliefs or dogma. Churches have been denying marriage and any other other sacrament they perform to those who do not qualify under the rules of a particular religion. They are protected under the U.S. Constitution to do so. My parents were married in 1960 in a Catholic church. My father was not Catholic. His pastor refused to participate in the marriage and would not acknowledge the fact of their marriage because my mother is Catholic. It was and is his right to do so under the U.S. Constitution.
getreal
This woman is not a christian she is a liar and a bigot. She sounds just like the so called “intelligent” people who supported segregation and miscegenation laws. She is a relic.
SammySeattle
@a: Drown out Maggie? That’s a laugh, did you see the video? In every debate in which she participates Ms. Gallagher talks over the other person throughout and doesn’t let anyone else get a word in. And, perhaps we have different understandings of the word bigot, but someone who devotes their life to the negation of rights for another group is most definitely a bigot. We are not here asking for any of her rights to be restricted or removed, we are responding to her calls to have us relegated to a second class status.
michael not 51. but another Michael
We also need to remember that hate and provoking hate has become big business in the U.S. just ask Anne Coulter or Bill O’Reilly or Rupert Murdoch , on and on. People like Maggie began careers writing angry, cruel things that they may of believed in and discovered that there is an audience of ignorant, angry victim minded people out there they would listen. They have to keep this going and they have to get publicity to sell their books, TV shows and be hired on the hate lecture circuit. There pocket books depend on it. But even if your doing it for money it will eventually get you. You cannot live your life this way without paying the consequences. . I can only imagine how miserable her inner world must really be. I actually pity her.
Wayne
That bigot should stop worrying about gays and lesbians so much and start thinking about some DEX-A-TRIM. Fat ugly heffer.
getreal
@michael not 51. but another Michael: I agree I pity her too anyone’s whose life work is discriminating and disenfranchising a group of people must have some very “dark nights of the soul”.
BrianZ
Yuck. I think it’s safe to say this one could make a dildo go limp.
Anyway, people like this who are so far ‘out there’ as to put shit like this into the mainstream really do more against their cause than for it. Only the most ignorant of sheep are going to buy this shit. Those people would also never likely be gay supporters anyway. Let her get up there and make a fool of herself.
geoff
@getreal: “She is a relic”. From your keyboard to God’s ears. I can’t wait for the day when people look back at all this and wonder why this was such a big deal and can finally relegate hateful bigots like Maggie to the trash bins of history where they truly belong.
dalea
Has there been any progress in finding out who funds her organization? It popped up out of nowhere and gave millions to the Prop8 campaign. Speculation is that this is how the Mormon Church funneled its money to Prop8: gave it to Gallagher’s organization which then covered up the source.
Maybe we need to greet her with twinkies whenever she debates.
getreal
@geoff: Co-sign
Cody
What a stupid CUNT.
Alec
I listened to her on NPR today. Prof. William Eskridge of Yale was on the other side of the debate and made a joke about how the anti-marriage equality advocates had missed their mark when no fault divorce became the law of the land. She joked and said “get back to me” or something similar, if and when he decided to tackle that. But I think it raises a very fair and interesting point. Gallagher and the others who don’t adopt FRC talking points desperately want to pretend that this isn’t about anti-gay animus, but the failure to object to no fault divorce (they’ve provided alternative “covenant marriages” in some jurisdictions, but they’ve never prohibited no fault) simply proves that this current movement is motivated by anti-gay animus. She objects, of course, but I found it interesting that she didn’t offer any opinion when Eskridge pointed out that the state constitutional amendments, a majority in fact, had gone well beyond marriage and prohibited even domestic partner health care benefits (at least here, in MI).
She is a bigot. A bigot with a Yale degree, granted, but as someone said above, if it walks like a bigot….
Also I seem to remember reading something rather nasty she wrote about hate crimes legislation after Matt Shepard was brutally killed in Wyoming. I wish someone would dig that up to show how thorough her anti-gay sentiment runs.
Chuck
what a fat, disgusting cow. Is the Kathy Bates’ much dumber and uglier sister?
Alec
@Chuck: I’m just picking on your post because it is the latest (and mentions Kathy Bates, a woman I’ve loved since Misery), but I think it is better to engage her toxic ideas than it is to criticize her image. And there’s plenty to criticize about her positions.
Bertie
Maggie ‘The Hag’ Gallagher = Propagandist Sow.
Martha
Somewhere in her past, there is a gang bang that she is deeply ashamed of.
tavdy79
I wasn’t aware she qualified as human – she sure as hell ain’t humane!
Jon from Maine
God all I have to do is look at women like her know why I’m gay….
Vada
At one point, I wished Joe had said something along the lines of, “Not allowing gay people to adopt children ‘for religious reasons’ is just as prejudiced as not allowing black people to adopt children ‘for economic reasons’. Just as being gay does not affect a person’s religious affiliation, being black does not affect a person’s economic status. This argument is blatant bigotry. BLATANT.”
Cee
omg, someone shut her fat ass up please. she needs to be less concerned about gay people who have nothing to do with her and more concerned about her unhealthy weight. fat ass bitch…lol
Vada
@Alec- #63 there was great to read. It is so important to find these factual FLAWS in these arguments- something substantial to attack, instead of the size of a bigoted woman’s ass. Thank you for your clear and affective statement!
Vada
*effective statement, rather. i think.
Bruno
She doesn’t have any desire to infringe upon the rights of gays & lesbians, except to have them declared afflicted with a disorder: http://www.uexpress.com/maggiegallagher/?uc_full_date=20010509.
getreal
This woman is dangerous. That she hides behind christianity makes her all the more wicked.
ct
My complaint with that interview was not Maggie (who we all knew would be a horrible person) but Joe who came across as ineffectual and sterile. Can we not get some dynamic voices at the forefront of our movement?
And despite the fact that I found Maggie a reprehensible human being, all of the comments about her weight are as bigoted as her comments about gays. Take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s (or hateful sister’s) eye.
TikiHead
Maggie Gallagher argues dishonestly — I had one email exchange with her a couple years back: she claims that studies showing kids don’t do as well in single parent homes proves that same sex couples aren’t ideal either for kids. I asked her if she had any studies that were actually ABOUT same sex couples, and she swore she’d get right back to me…
It’s been four years now.
TikiHead
@ct: (and others who have mentioned it) Yeah, her wieght or appearance are completely irrelevant, and it’s just grade-school level B.S. to sink to that level. And, it helps her look like a martyr, set upon by meany Liberals! Stop it, please?
nickatynot
God, this woman reminds me of my mother!
Frunced
I think I know what’s wrong: every time she’s on a blind date (the only kinda date she gets) the guy takes a look at her and bails with the (false) excuse that he’s gay.
Kevin Gotkin
I really don’t understand why the HRC has not yet refuted the weak “religious freedoms” argument from the NOW with the REAL religious freedoms argument: the government telling a minister that they may not issue a marriage license to a couple of the same sex (as has been the basis for many court cases challenging the constitutionality of the definition of marriage) is fundamentally a curtailment of the freedom of religion, the free exercise clause. The Catholic Church may deny gay couples the right to marry on their own values, sure. But the government should NEVER be able to tell a minister who they can and cannot marry. Having gay couples being married by a minister is the very basis of a more pluralistic society of religious freedom.
If NOW really wants people to be able to practice their religions openly and freely, then they should realize that more freedom for religions to grant marriage licenses on the behalf of the state is an unequivocal step int he right direction. I believe it’s a lamentable failure that HRC and the No on Prop 8 campaign STILL haven’t started to use this angle!!
Attmay
Typical goyim. They don’t mind infringing on the rights of pro-gay churches. Just like they don’t mind enforcing a Christian-exclusive view that claims life begins at conception (Judaism and Islam do not).
One of the CA 36,000
@Kevin Gotkin: I’m dredging up this thread because of the immense fallacy underlying your post.
Religious officiants DO NOT ISSUE marriage licenses. ONLY THE STATE CAN ISSUE MARRIAGE LICENSES.
Religious officiants CAN EXECUTE marriage licenses.
And they can do so ONLY because they have been granted temporary notary powers BY THE STATE. In the vast majority of the civilized world, marriages ONLY achieve legal standing when the STATE conducts a civil marriage; religious officiants CANNOT execute the marriage license, and a church wedding serves to solemnify the union and to satisfy the families’ wishes.
Marriage is a CIVIL institution that has been usurped by religion– NOT the other way around.
Marriage has ALWAYS been about creating a legal and financial unit out of two consenting parties with legal standing. In the past, that would have been two FAMILIES. Now, it’s two ADULTS.
After all, where do you go to obtain a divorce? Not church, kids. YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE COURTS TO OBTAIN A DIVORCE, BECAUSE YOU’RE DISSOLVING A LEGAL CONTRACT.
Scott Rose
@Chad: Maggot Gagginwhore asking why you don’t concentrate on “benefits” instead of on marriage, as though the NOMzis has never fought against civil unions.