See what the Fire Island Boys hath wrought? Katy Perry’s video for “California Girls” is only in the sneak peek stage, but already a troupe calling themselves the Washington Boys have produced their own gay flick for it. And then comes the scandal factor: Is EMI trying to keep it offline?
That’s what Kevin Farrell, who created the video with his friends, claims via email:
Over the past two weeks, my friends and I shot a music video to Katy Perry’s “California Girls”, which we lovingly called the Washington Boys remix. A gay bar in Seattle held a premiere party for the video last night, and a full house arrived for the unveiling. It was a total hit, but moments after airing the video, EMI removed it from YouTube for copyright violation. This of course puzzled us in the age of Lady Gaga and Miley Cyrus amazing fan videos, and we felt completely destroyed by the turn of events. However, people at the party started to notice that there are DOZENS of other videos using the same song all over Youtube and other video sites, some resung or tweaked, but many using the exact track we used. And they all remain up. One video even has over 100,000 views.
EMI only removed the Katy Perry video made by 7 gay boys. The rest remain! Adding bitter fuel to the fire is the fact that the video was to be hosted today on UnicornBooty.com, a site that connects people with gay-friendly businesses. We’ve tweeted @KatyPerry, emailed her pal Perez Hilton, and so much more trying to save this video we poured so much love and hard work into. Please help save our video by bringing to light EMI’s very discriminatory and backwards practice of policing the internet for fan content produced only by the gay community.
Indeed, we’ve found a few covers, spoofs, and faux videos for “California Girls” on YouTube that haven’t been pulled.
So what gives? Are there too many rainbow flags in this version? Too many fagalas? We’ve reached out to Perry’s publicist at EMI to see if the label has a comment (maybe it’s just an overzealous copyright filter to blame?), but complicating the situation might be the way EMI and Warner Music have reached a deal over Perry’s recordings: “While EMI will continue to control Perry’s actual recordings, Warner/Chappell controls the underlying compositions on her current album and in her back catalog. That means they’ll get performance royalties every time one of her songs is played and a mechanical licensing fee for each album sold or song downloaded.”
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UPDATE: Kevin emails us with the good news that YouTube is letting the video stay online, here.
Soakman
I have no idea what they’re getting at with the removal ‘issue.’ Technically, it’s not legal distribution of the music so…
BUT, I must say, that these guys look like they had an absolute blast making the video. I hope it was as fun as it looks. 😀
Megan
I think that they made it kind of clear that the issue isn’t the actual removal, but the fact that their video is removed while many other with more views using the same song remain up. Making only the video made by a group of gays the one to come down.
Daddy Grace Fish Sandwich
Why aren’t there any black men in this video? It’s all white gay males. This is why many people think the gay movement is about white men or a white agenda. This is just an observation, but this is America and there should have been diversity in this gay video to reflect the United States.
Stabwound
I was lucky enough to be on the awesome annual camping trip where this was filmed in Vantage, WA. It was a Facebook open invitation to everyone in Washington. Everyone attending got an email telling them to learn the song, and dance practices were even scheduled. These are the boys that really buckled down and committed to it. But for the record, one of the lead boys is Native American and another is Mexican. And they are all the nicest guys in the world!
Tommy
Youtube keeps taking it down because its such a bad song. The whole “California” theme has been played out. It’s tired. It’s over. Nobody believes that hype or fantasy anymore. What’s in California? Smog, gangs, traffic, high cost of living, the polluted Pacific ocean, earthquakes, wild fires, mudslides. You can keep it.
Ian
Lord, if your not a gay teen and over 20 it’s simply embarrasing to watch. I would hope to think that our community has advanced past people in their mid-20’s to 30’s acting like teeny boppers. A man that acts like a MAN is SEXY, a man that acts like a kid doesn’t get invited to the adult parties.
SSCHIEFRSHA
Oh Dear…How horrid.
Nick Vivion
For us, the funniest part about the video was the fact that the California thing is so overplayed – life is a lot different in Washington and that’s what we wanted to show! Also, it’s a heck of a lot of fun to make a silly music video!
Daddy Grace Fish Sandwich
Once again, I will say. Why aren’t there any black men in this video? Where is the diversty that reflects the United States and the so called gay community? Are white gays seen as the only beauty on earth as is the white race by some?
Ian
@Daddy Grace Fish Sandwich: Naw, I think the black gay guys were smart enough to know that to appear in something so juvenile would be an embarrassment.
James_From_The_Great_City_of_Cambridge
Maybe EMI pulled it because it was so awful and they were trying to save the gay boys from public humiliation.
Black Hispanic
I agree with Sweet Daddy Grace. There should be diversity shown in this video to reflect the gay community. There’s a perception, the gay community is predominately white.
CodeNameEMichael
I am not entirely sure how the question presented by this article, which is: why is the video produced by Unicorn Booty using “California Gurls,” by Katy Perry, the only video being banned by EMI while others using the same song remain on You Tube … has turned into an ugly display of ignorance. The gentlemen that made this film we’re celebrating creativity and appreciation for Katy Perry and are now being subjected to discrimination for their age and being accused of racial prejudice. This is the problem with the gay community, people who would rather tare each other down to build a false sense of self worth rather instead of working together to achieve equality for all gays. Unicorn Booty is an amazing company building equality through commerce. And to “Daddy Grace” I believe “Black and Latino Pride Organizations” do our community a much larger injustice causing segregation than this group of talented youth getting together to celebrate their pride. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t believe there are any Gay White Pride organizations in our country.
Diya
WOW – that is really awful. Those guys can’t dance, and most of them shouldn’t be taking their shirts off. Gah. So boring, so boring.
tr
@CodeNameEMichael:
also this is Washington, which while not as white as OR is much whiter than CA…
it’s a good cute a fun video, we should just let it be that and not try to find a way to criticize it.
jason
Katy Perry may be homophobic. Has anyone considered that? If they just pulled this particular video, it’s entirely possible.
christopher di spirito
Since YouTube is now owned by Googled, I wonder if some queer hater at Google objected to it?
Same with Facebook. Facebook may have 400 million users but content monitoring is managed by Chris Kelly — the guy running for CA Attorney General. He tells everyone he’s all pro-gay and shit but in fact, he’s a religious right winger and regularly removes gay, male content.
Ryan
@Tommy: thank you! please encourage fewer people to move here. makes it nicer for the rest of us 🙂
zack
Any defense of illegal activity that involves, “but other people do it” is pretty weak.
Perhaps the issue isn’t that other people on YouTube use the song; but rather it is with the fact that a business (the bar) publically showed the video without paying royalites and presumably made money off of this event. I’m not a lawyer, but I’m assuming using a song in a video at a public event without paying for it is probably illegal.
Jon
@Daddy Grace Fish Sandwich:
OH STFU. This was made on a shoe string budget by a bunch of friends who were bored. Get over yourself. Maybe you are only adding to the hostility of gays vs. blacks by pulling the race card every time you feel they aren’t included. And I agree, black pride is doing far more to segregate blacks than this video here.
Happy
@zack: @Diya: That.. isn’t the point. Did you even read the issue, or are you just going to make fun?
Jesse Helms
@Jon, you do know coloreds can be gay too? You all are perverts and deserve to go down under. I love to see the white gays vs. the black gays. Forget the race part, you both are still queer. Fags discriminating against other fags. How dumb!
David
The song makes my ears bleed.
Jesse Helms
@Jon; gay rednecks vs. gay niggers. How you homosexuals expect to be on one page and you continue to bicker between each other? I am loving it all; seeing perverts fighting each other.
Satsuma
Perhaps EMI is afraid this will go viral like that “Party in the U.S.A.” one and eclipse the real video they’re trying to hard to hype? Or this one keeps on being flagged by YouTube users while the other ones are being ignored (and therefore go unreported)?
(Also, 70% of black voters in California voted for Prop 8. Of course everything always varies on an individual basis, but different cultures within our society, some of which are racially-based or influenced, have different opinions of homosexuality. Black pride groups totally make sense once you factor white privilege into it, though.)
zack
@Happy: Yes, I read the post. Kevin Farrell ignored the YouTube Terms of Service by uploading this video. Then, instead of admitting that he violated the Terms of Service, he claimed he was discriminated against by EMI. Frankly, I think that claim is BS since he already broke copywrite laws.
Specific violates from YouTube’s Terms of Service: 6D (“you further agree that you will not submit material that is copyrighted, protected by trade secret or otherwise subject to third party proprietary rights”) and 4D (“D.You agree not to use the Website, including the YouTube Embeddable Player for any commercial use, without the prior written authorization of YouTube”).
Jon
@Jesse Helms:
Why do you keep saying calling gay perverts? Are you gay yourself or just a closet case?
wannabegay2
@Daddy Grace Fish Sandwich: I am a big (and I mean BIG!) supporter of the black, latino&asian community… I think discrimination is unfair and racism is the biggest disease in the US… But… You are right… And you wanna know why there’s no Black or Latino gays in this video? Because the fight has been and it is taken by the white gays. The Black and Latino gay communities are so down-low that we can’t get them to do anything except jack off on XTube. There are, of course Blacks and Latinos that are out and proud, but as a percentage of the gay out population, they have lower numbers. And I cannot drag Blacks out of their closets, it’s just not my job. I’ve dated Blacks and Latinos, and sometimes it can be a hassle. Plus, it’s not their fault that they were born in craaazy religious families… I’m just trying to explain something and I really hope I didn’t offend anyone!
tofer david
good for them, fun loving, free spirited, good times
Jon
@wannabegay2:
I agree with part of what you said, but not all. I’m Latino myself, and as a percentage wise, I see much more Latinos involved in the gay community here in DC. Even though the black population here is much larger than the Latino. Part of it is flat out racism, but on BOTH sides. As a hispanic man myself (born and raised in the US) I can’t tell you how much grief and off handed comments I get from blacks about me going back to Mexico or asking where’s my green card. And much of my latino friends have experienced this too. But honestly, we don’t hear much about it from the white guys. So naturally, we will feel more comfortable with whites and even Asians.
Another part is the blacks that seperate themselves from the rest of the community. This past weekend was Black pride and while the AA population hung around DC, the white and latino population jetted off to Rehoboth Beach for the holiday.
Also, Latinos are not as conservative as you might think. Latin America is much more liberal than many parts of the US. Much of the younger population are quiet Americanized and accepting of homosexuality than one might think. Though it still is a problem, I don’t think the latino church is as outspoken or harsh as the black church is about homosexuality.
wannabegay2
@Jon: I live in LA, so you can imagine that I’m surrounded by Latinos and I actually don’t consider race as a factor in dating someone. Plus, the streets of WeHo are filled every night by Latinos. But, as I was saying many of them are on the down-low. Why? Because of the craaazy Catholic Church that I truly despise with all my heart. As a statistical thing, I have to tell you that in the Prop 8 vote, Whites and Asians were the only group that voted No 52%. In LA County, dominated by Latinos, the majority was Yes on 8. In the same time, I have so many out and proud friends at school that are Latinos. So I’m not sure about the real situation. I do know that everything can be explained sociologically and here we take the statistics concerning education, income, criminal activity etc and we can draw conclusions about relations between all these factors and homophobia. And out of that homophobia closeted gays emerge! I am married to a Latino, so I cannot be considered racist, and I also add LA Mayor’s attitude (Villaraigosa) towards the gays, always favorable. But also I see my friends mother that lives in East LA and kicked out of her house her son because he was gay. I also see my Latino classmates making homophobic jokes. I also see people being afraid to come out to their Catholic relatives. I also see gays being killed in Puerto Rico (and I can’t ignore the fact that, on the other hand, Mexico City allows gay marriage)… I see the whole picture. And I can conclude that being gay is still a taboo in the Latino community.
James_From_The_Great_City_of_Cambridge
Am I the only one who cares or noticed that Jason/Jesse Helms/Kevin or whatever he calls himself in a particular thread, has gotten what he wants: a mini-race war on Queerty. In this thread and in multiple threads, especially the Rampage Jackson ones, every single day now, it’s like everyone has decided to spew every vile thing they ever thought about someone who doesn’t look like them. I’ve been reading Queerty for a couple of years, every single day, and have never seen such nastiness towards Blacks here as I have the last couple of weeks. I’m almost convinced this Jason character with his multiple aliases is behind a lot of it but not all. Since I’m Irish and Black, I really don’t want to have to choose a side in this little race war so can we not fall for this little neo-nazi prick’s little tricks and dial down the temperature on race a bit? Thanks.
jeffree
@James_From_The_Great_City_of_Cambridge: Queerty has a policy on comments which it does not enforce.
Jason uses the N word, Jesse Helms spouts all kinds of crazy homôphobìc cràpola, and Queerty does nothing.
It’s high time we expose Quëètý for falling asleep at the switch. Alert GLAAD, other LGB blogs, and make sure that this blog is revealed for harboring bigots, sexists, & racists.
Jesse Helms
@Jon. How can I be gay? I am dead stupid.
Jon
@Jesse Helms:
Well, you got the dead stupid part right…
Editor KOK magazine
Maybe if Katy’s album bombs, she’ll be hungry for this kind of fan tribute. Some time on the D-list would do her good. D-listers Kathy Griffin/Bravo/NBC never remove anything from youtube with Kathy in it, even if clear copyright violation. By the way, who is Katy Perry? And why isn’t this song nearly as good as Hot and Cold?
Black Hispanic
James you should never have to choose who you are as a person. Unfortunately, some in society will choose for you. I am of Puerto Rican ancestry and both my parents are Puerto Rican born in Ponce. Myself and my parents race is black. People think being Hispanic or Latino is a race. Hispanics can be of any race. With my being black, many don’t accept me as being Hispanic or Latino. They see a black man who happen to be fluent in Spanish. Many white gay guys think of Latino men with a dark tan almost white like them looking exotic with straight hair and caucasian features. I no long tell people I’m Latino, because they see me as a black man. The same goes for Tiger Woods. Tiger Woods appearance on the outside appears to look like the average black man on the streets. President Obama has a black mother, but his outward appearance is that of a black man.
I’ve experience more racism from gay whites and other Latinos than from anyone. Black or Afro Latinos are not accepted by many within the Latino community. Turn to all 3 Spanish speaking networks in the U.S. and all the Hispanic faces and Soap Operas are all white Hispanics. If you do see a black Hispanic on Spanish television, they usually are the maid or some type of slave. I am sick of all the racism and I look forward to my death.
Black Hispanic
Correction: President Obama has a white mother, but his father was a very dark skin African. This black genes dominated and his appearance is that of a black man, not mulatto or mixed race. Obama is not a light skin man as Senator Harry Reid stated. Leno Horne and the former Mass. Senator Edward Brooks are light skin.
Jon
@wannabegay2:
I don’t really understand what you are trying to get at, though I do appreciate you trying to have a civil conversation.
I understand that there is some homophobia in the Latino, but I honestly don’t believe it is any worse than that of the Anglo community.
You bring up good points about Prop. 8 and the hate crime in Puerto Rico, but you forget that Prop. 8 was brought upon by the Mormon Church. And as horrible as Pedro’s murder was, you are also forgetting about Matthew Shephard. You are also ignoring Constance McMillens ordeal and the priest abuse scandals blaming of homosexuals.Do Ted Haggard and George Rekers ring a bell???
Also, same sex marriage is legal in Spain, Mexico City (with legislation proposed in the states of Morelos,Puebla, Sonora, Michoacán, Tabasco,and Tamaulipas) and recently in Argentina. This is far more than what America can say.
Jon
@Black Hispanic:
I understand what you are saying, but your concern falls more into the category of racism in the Latino community rather than in the gay community. You await for your death? Umm….maybe you need a hug?
Black Hispanic
@James. I ignore crazies like Jesse Helms and Jason. All we know, they might be the same person or a teenager having fun of the Internet by starting racist comments.
Ron, I need a hug a many days. It’s not easy being black, gay, Latino, Catholic, and living in the closet.
logicpolice
@Jon: Isn’t it a little racist to imply that the Hispanic-American community’s attitudes towards homosexuality are shown though Latin, not U.S., countries’ attitudes? As an Irish-American I would be very upset if you said because Ireland did something my peers of Irish descent and I feel the same way within our community, better to look at our voting records not the places we left.
I also believe that Group A’s attitude towards Group B must affect how Group B interacts and overlaps with Group A, so discussion of homosexuality in black and Hispanic etc. communities is very relevant to how POC are treated/regarded in the gay community.
Jon
@logicpolice:
True, but unlike the vast majority of Irish Americans living in America today, Latinos are still very connected to their country of origin. You may not have any family still living in Ireland, but millions of Latinos are still very closely associated with family back in their country of origin. So, in my opinion it is relevant. And as a Latino man myself, I see it everyday, especially while growing up.
I wouldn’t bring up African Americans and Africa because blacks in this country very rarely even know someone from the actual continent of Africa. So to bring up that connection it would be irrevelant.
And about the racism in the Latino community, I said I did understand where he was coming from, I do see that blacks are very rarely protrayed in the media. But I would say that has more to do with colonialism and religion, rather than homosexuality. And if we want to even begin on touching that, we will have to be here all nite…
James_From_The_Great_City_of_Cambridge
@Black Hispanic: I don’t claim to know what goes on within the Latino community (though I think Puerto Rican men are the hottest kind of men, ever) but I think all this is a function of where you live. But Jesus, wishing for your death? Don’t let the assholes win! Even if you’re closeted, I guarantee you your immediate family at least suspects, as mine used to, so you might want to feel them out and at least confide in the one you’re closest to. And though it’s almost an unfortunate human reaction to become resentful of everyone within a certain race or community when just one among them throws their racism at you (it’s hard for me too), remember there are plenty of good people of every race who are out there waiting to befriend you. I grew up in Boston, a city with a nasty racial history and I have friends of every conceivable race. I’ve had lovers of every conceivable race too. So please don’t let the Jasons of the world color your view of it. And don’t ever fucking wish to die before your time!! You don’t know what the hell is on the other side…you might end up reincarnated as a vagina or something. Bleech!!!
CodeNameEMichael
Lets hear it for the fagalas! Video back up and running on You Tube!
Daddy Grace Fish Sandwich
@Black Hispanic, let not your heart be troubled. I am a 49 year old black professional man that happens to be private and love same genger sex. I understand your pain and what you are experiencing. I met an attractive white Brazilian with hazel green eyes last spring. He looked like the twin brother of British actor Christian Bale. We dated for a while and he really was attracted to me, but he had a problem with what his white friends would think of his dating a black man. I live in Washington, D.C. with a large gay population. The gay community is very segregated here with many white privilege gays looking down on gay black men or native black Washingtonians. I felt my white Brazilian boyfriend was ashamed of me. The sex was good, but he never wanted to be seen with me out in public. Not only was he closeted like myself, it turned out, he had a darn gay white lover. I have traveled to Brazil and I know Brazilians come in all colors/races. Most black Brazilians live in poverty as other blacks do in Puerto Rico, Cuba, Dominican Republic, Panama, Venezuela, and Columbia. Black Latinos are discriminated against in those countries. Whites in the U.S. will accepted a tanned fair skin or trigueno looking Latino with straight or curly hair. Once I found out about the other boyfriend, I told the green eyed Brazilian jerk to get lost. It hurt for a while, because I thought my being black wasn’t being attractive enough to keep this guy. I have gone thorough my low self esteem faze too. White gay men have to understand, many of your gay oriented magazines have only young hot faces. Once I visited a gay club in downtown Philadelphia called Woodies back in the early 90’s. The white gay men treated me as if I was inferior or invisible. I decided to only date gay black men or non white men. My decision for doing this wasn’t I was a racist. My reason for doing it, I no longer wanted to be rejected by attractive gay white males. I am attracted to men I find attractive regardless of race. I am not usually attracted to Asian men, unless they are mixed with a black or white parent. Their body built and having no behind doesn’t attract me. The only white men that have tried to hit on me were old, fat, ugly, and bald men. I attracted these types of men at the age of 33 years old. LOL At present in D.C., the city is now divided by race and class. However, please don’t ever think about killing yourself. I know life as some of us see it can be depressing. There’s a lot to live for! Take each day at a time and ignore fools like Jason, Jesse, and other racists. I see racists remarks daily on blogs in the Washington Post, New York Times, Washington City Paper, Baltimore Sun, etc. made by racist redneck whites who decided to always bring race into the topic and especially involving crime. Have a good night Boricua!
Daddy Grace Fish Sandwich
Correction:
@Black Hispanic, let not your heart be troubled. I am a 49 year old black professional man that happens to be private and love same gender sex.
I forgot about the grammar police on here. LOL
Dame Helga von ornstein
I thought it was cute. For those of you who could use a good laugh with no controversy I’m sure you will enjoy this goodie I stumbled across on youtube from the 1980’s.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu2NqfISm9k
wannabegay2
@Daddy Grace Fish Sandwich: wow! i’ve read your whole story and it impressed me. i had no idea people can be so stupid! it makes me so angry! i got in a huge fight with this friend of mine because he said he doesn’t date blacks. i thought that was so racist! and in europe white gays don’t date gypsies! it’s like eliminating from start any traits that a person has just because of his/her skin color! i’m white myself, but what makes me really angry is when people that are discriminated against (aka gays) discriminate as well. im like: are you serious? your story is probably common is DC and other parts of the US and it saddens me.
but the point that has been made in the comments above (some people have taken it too far though) was why aren’t blacks and latinos gays portrayed in the media? well, because of the fake standard of beauty that the western world has, but also because of closeted blacks and latinos that would not be willing to appear in a video or a magazine or any sort of media. the fundamental question would be, in this case: are there (percentually) more down-low/closeted blacks than whites?
i hope i wasnt inappropriate, but your story really touched me. hope youre well now.
Daddy Grace Fish Sandwich
@wannabegay2. Thank you. I am not going to lie, I was hurt and I cried. I did have an account on ADAM4AMAM, but many of the guys on there are crazies, looking for the gym bodies, or maybe a superman. As I stated, I am attracted to an attractive man when I see one on the street, office, supermarket etc. regardless of race. To hear another human being stating, they look forward to their death is very troubling to me. I just wanted Black Hispanic is not alone in this world. Everyone is going thorough some trials or tribulations in our life’s. Daddy Grace is going to bed after the Golden Girls goes off at 1 a.m. Good night to everyone and don’t let the bed bugs bite. LOL LOL You have to laugh sometimes to keep from crying. This is my therapy!
Daddy Grace Fish Sandwich
P.S.
@wannabegay2, find gypsy men to be sexy, attractive, and hot. LOL LOL
Black Hispanic
@Daddy Grace. You are correct Daddy Grace, many Gypsy men from Romania are sexy and gorgegous.
Evan
@Daddy Grace Fish Sandwich: Ever been to Washington?
Yeah, some gays are racist. And that sucks. I’m sorry for what you’ve been through. But a little bit of realism: the Pacific Northwest isn’t exactly a hotbed of racial diversity. If these guys are actually in Seattle, there’s a reasonably large pool of people of colour (mostly Asian/Pacific Islander), but from what I’ve seen even they are rare on the gay scene. And outside Seattle, the overwhelming majority of people are white.
If this were professionally cast you’d have a great argument. But an amateur video of a group of friends who are all white in a heavily white state isn’t an indication of racism on the part of the guys in the video – it’s just an indication of the degree of de facto segregation in this country.
I’ve lived on the East Coast. You’d have to work hard to exclude black people from your group of friends in DC or Philly or Baltimore. But you’d have to work even harder to include them in Seattle, if your initial social connections here were through white or Asian people.
Eric
Obviously the new way to make a music video is to invite amateur members of the public put it together with the vocal artist making a cameo.
Why all the hate? This video was made in fun by a group of guys who are all in decent shape. Just enjoy it for what it is. If you don’t like it I’m sure there are clips of Lawrence Welk somewhere out there.
PLAYS WELL WITH OTHERS
Bunch ‘o Gay dudes want to make a silly ass video. They get together on a beach have some laughs toss it on the internets and get some chuckles ova it. Thats about all folks, there was no sinister motives just some dudes having fun..
Why the fcuk do people need to start tossing darts at each other pulling every card from the hate deck they can get their hands on and start tossing cyberhate all over the thread??? Whats the matter, you aren’t happy with the job the strhaters are doing in disparagin all things Gay?? You feel you need to give them a hand???
A circular firing squad kinda defeats the purpose….
mikeandrewsdantescove
I thought the guy rapping was sexy! Overall, there having a lot of fun and I say kudos to that.
JJ
http://promotemusic.blogspot.com/
Oscar
Please, people, grow up, does everything have to be homophobia? This parody and all the others like it are just plain bad. It’s simple. And embarrassing to boot.
Action Jackson
@Daddy Grace Fish Sandwich – As a black man living in Washington, DC, I really want to connect and sympathize with you. But, the reality is that you and your kind represent the exact type of black gay I have grown to hate in this city. Let me break some things down: You are a 49 year-old black professional man. Yet, you have failed to properly deal with your issues. Man, grow the hell up. You are too old to be wrestling with these same demons. You said that “the gay community is very segregated here with many white privilege gays looking down on gay black men or native black Washingtonians.” I propose to you that many black gay men look down on less privileged black gays and native black Washingtonians, too. What’s the difference?
You also said that “it hurt for a while, because I thought my being black wasn’t being attractive enough to keep this guy. I have gone thorough my low self esteem faze too.” Daddy Grace Fish Sandwich, it sounds as though you are still in this PHASE. Black gays like you make it hard for other gay black men in Washington, DC because your low self-esteem dictates your very being. You think that your being black isn’t good enough so you try to enforce that belief on other blacks. Well, just because you aren’t good enough doesn’t mean that others black gays are not. I am so tired of crippled and maimed esteem black gays (and blacks in general) taking their frustrations about not feeling attractive out on other blacks. I get it. You feel ugly and undesirable. That doesn’t give you the right to try and screw with anyone else’s self-esteem. Oh yeah, your self-esteem is still in a bad phase. There’s no doubt about it. Remember when you said “I am not usually attracted to Asian men, unless they are mixed with a black or white parent. Their body built and having no behind doesn’t attract me.” You are an idiot. Don’t get mad about white/white-looking guys not wanting you when you make such horrid statements about Asian guys. Isn’t this the same type of racism that hurt your poor little feelings so much? Again, I say, grow the hell up. You’re 49 years-old.
Lastly, but still very important, you said “I decided to only date gay black men or non white men. My decision for doing this wasn’t I was a racist. My reason for doing it, I no longer wanted to be rejected by attractive gay white males. I am attracted to men I find attractive regardless of race.” This statement is loaded with lies. Man, how sick are you? There are so many things wrong here, it would take too long to address them. How old were you when you finally decided to date black men? Had you wasted your prime years being rejected by “attractive” white men? And, what defines attractive for you? It seems to me that most of you blacks gays find just about any white man to be attractive. And, why were you seeking attractive white guys when you don’t feel that you stack up in the attractive category yourself? There are too many bruised and battered black gay men floating around this city with self-esteem issues and serious psychological problems. The type of black gay that see’s another black gay and won’t even nod his head in a gesture to say hello. Yet, this black gay will trip all over himself to say hello to an attractive white guy that probably will ignore him. Better yet, he has probably had sex with the white guy who has refused to acknowledge him in public. Not that anything is wrong with that. A trick is a trick, regardless of skin color. It seems that many black gays don’t understand the term “being a dog” if in fact they are the ones being dogged.
Yo, Daddy Grace Fish Sandwich. You’re 49 years-old. Grow the hell up.
whatever
“Why aren’t there any black men in this video? It’s all white gay males. This is why many people think the gay movement is about white men or a white agenda. This is just an observation, but this is America and there should have been diversity in this gay video to reflect the United States.”
I am quoting this because this was hidden by people who don’t like the truth that was stated herein. Well, hard cheese. Read it.
Michael vdB
I think some people tend of over-think a video that was meant to be fun with people having fun. They did a good job….having fun.
swarm
You know perfectly well that youTube gets requests from record labels to remove videos for copyright infringement because YOU YOURSELF, QUEERTY have headlined that fact vis a vis Party in the FIP as being the ONLY video never removed by a label (Miley’s) like other high profile ones.
Disengenous again. Meanwhile you bash Adam Lambert on the other thread for not being “gay enough” (without cause and ad nauseum) and completely ignore the huge honor he received by VH1 to be the inaugural artist featured on their Posted page for an entire month SOLO.
Wherein he actually makes a GAY STATEMENT about “thanks for the mancandy” about Gaga’s stupid video.
http://www.vh1.com/music/posted/adam-lambert/#fbid=QeZwEfnwa4v
How about promoting an ACTUAL GAY PERSON instead of fanboying your asses off over Katy and fake non-bisexual Gaga? Not to mention some irrelevant superficial sentence about how catalog and songs work. duh.
Adam Lambert is headlining his own 70 show US tour before going international and will be iconic without you.
Jon
@whatever:
Well no shit. That’s where this whole discussion of race comes from Sherlock….
Bisexual Vampire
Action Jackson aka Jason. Who are you to tell others how they feel. The last time I checked, 49 years old isn’t old. You seemed to have issues within yourself. You sound bitter and jealous that other black men may have passed you over for a white male. I am a white 35 year old male living in Montgomery County (Silver Spring, Maryland). Reading some of these comments, racism is still alive and well in the United States. Having a black President hasn’t changed anything on race relations. The sad part, the gay community seem to be the most racist between both black and white gays. Gezz give it a rest guys, we all are homosexual or bisexual men.
Action Jackson, please seek some mental health counseling.
Jesse Helms
@Action Jackson
Isn’t that special to see Negro and white fudge packers hate on each other. You both are freaks, abomination, and a practice a crime against nature. I love seeing you freaks not getting along.
Redneck homosexuals, you gave up being a part of the white race by living your perverted lifestyle.
whatever
@Jon: whoa. calm down there, ‘juan.’ my response was to those hiding the post.
PLAYS WELL WITH OTHERS
Would everyone pretty please use the “Flag” icon for the new virus which seems to be infecting these threads………
Jesse Helms
Plays Well With Others, are you retarded? Call the ACLU regarding censorship and free speech you fudge packer. Do you have a real job? Why are you working instead of typing on this blog 24/7? You must be an ugly gay dude without a life. How sad.
philly baller
That is the saddest looking beach I have ever seen. And I live in New Jersey. I know a thing of two about sad looking beaches!
Booker T
Many black gay men have more to worry about than policing homophobia in the African American community or combatting prejudices with queers. Black gay men are far more likely to be homeless or dealing with other economic pressures than their Caucasian counterparts. There are also social pressures for black gay men to avoid ‘making waves’ in either the LGBT or African American communities.
Black gay men will never feel comfortable as part of the whole community until white gay men get jolted and realize that African Americans already are part of the Community. Likewise, black gay men must prioritize clearly engaging other gay men on ignorance. When the gay community at large stops sounding so ignorant, we may finally be able to forge more powerful alliances. Its about trust, and the trust is lacking because of the words of gay white men like myself. Its time to check ourselves and work on being more inclusive, rather than exclusive.
Action Jackson
@Bisexual Vampire – Who is Jason? It certainly isn’t me. Looks like it is YOU who needs mental counseling.
As for me being passed over for a white male, that has never happened; at least to my knowledge. But, if it ever does happen to me, I will accept it for what it is. I have been passed over for other black men. So, why would it matter if I got passed over for a white man? Silly bisexual, think before you speak.
Why did it take you reading some of these comments to come to the conclusion that “racism is still alive and well in the United States”? Why were you not fully aware of this before reading these comments? Why would having Obama as President change race relations? Clearly, you are not in touch with reality.
And, for the record, 49 is old. Much too old to have his type of baggage. This man will be 50 soon. At 50, I certainly hope that I have at least managed to know who I am and how I fit into the world that surrounds me. You need to go to therapy along with Daddy Grace. Maybe the two of you could date, as you might be a good fit. Two randomly clueless idiots supporting one another.
Jon
@Jon:
I know that’s what you meant. And you are still stating the obvious…
Jesse Helms
Action Jackson, you are a miserable sounding jing a boo. Regardless, you are a spook that eats watermellon in his collard greens.
Sabina
@CodeNameEMichael: I was in that video and I am black. I am proud of the Seattle community and I am very involved in it even though I am straight. majority of the people featured in that video are very very nice people who just wanted to make a video for fun so all these people trying to dissect it and make it a martyr get real.
JJ
Katy Perry gave a shout out to your video and posted it on her facebook! 🙂
http://www.facebook.com/katyperry?ref=ts
Joe
There are so many angry people on here. Why don’t they show this, where is their sense of political correctness?
Who gives a F^CK? Can we not produce anything light and fun, and have people watch it and just say…”cool”, or “that looked like fun”. Does EVERYTHING we put out now need to be politically motivated?
I’m getting really tired of the whiny bitches on these sites..who probably aren’t out there marching in the streets, or going door to door petitioning people to change their vote.
You wanna do some good? Stop ragging on a freakin’ online video and get out there and REALLY be political.
wannabegay2
@Action Jackson: im on your side. everything you said is so true that is painful for bigots and self-hating homos to accept it. if at 49 you’re still in the closet and you get depressed every time someone rejects you, than you do have a problem. beware that all the people attacking you are white old gays that cant stand the truth.
Jesse Helms
wannabegay2, you sound like a two faced homo bottom. One minute you were praising Negro homo Daddy Grace. Now you are sucking the other Negro’s cock. This is typical behavior of perverted freaks like all of you, negro and white fudge packers. I’m loving your behavior and you are proving how vicious gay men can be. Become Demons.
GreatGranny
Can somebody please tell me what is the differnce between homosexual white men and homosexual black men? What’s all the bickering about? How can you discriminate against one other, when each feel they are a minority. You can’t have your cake and eat it too. Black gay men do have to carry a double baggage with them and it’s their race of being black and their sexuality of being gay. White gay men should be so lucky that they don’t have the extra luggage to carry around.
GreatGranny
@wannabegay2. I am glad I don’t have friends like you. I agree with racist Jesse Helms on this one. Reading your post, you praise Daddy Grace. I am beginning to believe what James_From_The_Great_City_of_Cambridge has stated about some of you using different screen names and is the same person. I wouldn’t be surprised by Action Jackson and Wannabegay2 are the same person posting under different names. If this is the case, some of you need to seek some mental health counseling at the Department of Mental Health in your State or city.
Jon Bon Jovi
Can we all just get alone? I don’t consider 49 as being old. I am 48 and I am in the prime of my life. It’s not important to be whether a gay man or lesbian woman is living their life’s openly or are still in the closet. To each his or her own. There are a lot of actors, professional sports figures, politicians, Attorneys, Doctors, Educators, and professional muscians living in the closet. Some are married with children. Who are we to judge these people? Live your life and don’t worry about how others are living theirs.
Stabwound
Hey all! I said this earlier, but it has been lost. It’s not just a bunch of white males in this video. One of our Washington Boys is Mexican and another is Native American. By white-washing the cast of characters here, aren’t some of you guilty of committing the racism you accuse us of?
The guys in this video are the ones featured because they are the ones who actually showed up and committed to doing this together. We are all friends, and we extended the invitation to over 100 other people that were on the camping trip with us in Vantage, WA. Everyone attending the trip received the information about the video being filmed. Black, White, Asian, Hispanic, Native American – everyone received the same video tutorial of the dance and the very same information. Please do not accuse these gentlemen of racism for the completely insane reason that they were the hardworking and brave guys that actually wanted to participate in this.
It was a ton of fun to film, and we are all so happy that we have this video reminder of a fantastic Memorial Day weekend. We’ve been featured on Perez Hilton and Katy Perry herself tweeted our video to all of her fans!
Please stop the wild accusations. It’s a summer video about some friends on a camping trip. It’s that simple.
hf2hvit
And that was “awesome” because…?
wannabegay2
@Jon Bon Jovi: and who says that the fact that there are lots of actors, professionals, lawyers in the closet makes it OK? the NORMAL pathway is out of the closet!
wannabegay2
@jesse helms, GreatGranny: i can feel sorry for someone whatever happens to them and still consider their behavior a little odd or inappropriate! yes, i feel sorry for this guy that is 49 and had a sad story, but i didn’t realize he was 49! and to me being in the closet at 49 is a big NO-NO!
@jesse helms: you are a freakin’ racist, self hating, old, fat homo that is so angry! are you writing us from a mental institution?
WiseUp
I wish YouTube would yank it permanently. It makes gay guys look like effeminate retarded dorks.
Jesse Helms
@WANNABEGAY2, how can you look thru the Internet and pretend to know what I look like? I can assure you, I am not fat, gay, ugly, and have AIDS.
Your having the AIDS virus has caused you to see or imagine things that’s not true. This is what you get when you let another man go up inside you raw and cum in you WANNABEGAY2. You are a real loser just like your father.
Jesse Helms
P.S. Let me remind you sissies, you too will get old someday if you live long enough. Too bad many of you will die from the virus you are now carrying like WANNABEGAY2. I am very proud to have lived as long as I did. I had a full happy life with children and a wife.
wannabegay2
@Jesse Helms: i could play this game, but i wouldn’t sink so low. you are frustrated and it’s impossible to heal you through a comment here. i feel sorry for you… you attack gay people, black people and anyone else but yet every day you’re on queerty. i’ll let you jack off watching gay porn, you need it!
wannabegay2
@Jesse Helms: PS: you just admitted that you are an old gay guy, that has lived all his life in the closet. thanks a lot for this PS!
Jesse Helms
@WANNABEGAY2; I’m already stupid. What is your excuse for being young and looking like a skeleton? I can assure you, you will not live to see old age. The virus will take you to Satan’s kingdom. It appears, Sweet Daddy Grace is already dead too. Do a google search on the Negro preacher Daddy Grace and you will see he’s been died. Maybe you can get Sweet Daddy Grace to marry you in the after life to a Demon. Where you are going will be lot’s of Demons. It’s obivious, you are a bottom boy with the virus. LOL
wannabegay2
@Jesse Helms: satan? demons? spirits? what’s wrong with you? there’s no such thing! “the virus”? you’re funny! ever heard of using condoms? i know that back in the 1920’s when you were young this concept didn’t exist, but now we live in the 21st century!
wannabegay2
PS: thanks for admitting that you’re also fat.
Jesse Helms
@WANNABEGAY2; I live to be over 100 years old. You will not make it to 30. Sorry to disappoint you, I was never fat. I can assure you WANNABEGAY2, Demons and spirits do exist. You are a non believer and this will be your condemnation to Satan’s house. You are godless like most fudge packers. Good night son of Satan. Maybe you should go dig Sweet Daddy Grace up and hook up with you. I am sure Sweet Daddy will not get a boner after seeing your troll of a face.
wannabegay2
@Jesse Helms: looks like someone’s going to hell! and it’s not gonna be me! how many times did you cheat on your wife with other men?
Black Hispanic
I am sadden to read many of the vile comments on this site. @WannaBeGay2: Daddy Grace Fish Sandwich came to my rescue the other day, because I stated, I look forward to my death. He didn’t have to share his personal life on here with total strangers. How can you and Jack City be so insensitive? Age discrimination is a serious issue in the gay community and the community at large. I guess I am over the hill at a age under 35? People have their reasons for not coming out. Blacks are shunned by most whites in America, and the thought of losing their family once their sexuality is out can be devastating to most. I watched a movie last week on Starz entitled “Life Is Hot In Cracktown” staring Kerry Washington playing as a transsexual. She has a white friend who’s a transsexual too and he comes from a very wealthy family. He lived his life as a female and went by the name Gabrielle. His mother threaten to cut him off financially, if he continued to live as a female. He stopped wearing women’s clothes and told his transsexual friend, he was going to get his boobs removed, get cured thru therapy, and live his life as a man. His reason, he did not want to be cut off from his mother financially and be poor. With this being said, neither of you have walked in someone else shoes. My family is very important to me as well as my 5 year old son. I can assure you to be black, Puerto Rican, and Catholic hasn’t been easy for me. After reading many of the vicious racist vile comments on this site is a turn off to the homosexual life style. I would rather be Asexual or hook back up with a female and put this homosexual feelings out of my mind and live a straight life. I realize, gays are not supportive of one another. All most want to do is destroy others with their hatred.
Black Hispanic
I am sadden to read many of the vile comments on this site. @WannaBeGay2: Daddy Grace Fish Sandwich came to my rescue the other day, because I stated, I look forward to my death. He didn’t have to share his personal life on here with total strangers. How can you and Jack City be so insensitive? Age discrimination is a serious issue in the gay community and the community at large. I guess I am over the hill at a age under 35?
Black Hispanic
I watched a movie last week on Starz entitled “Life Is Hot In Cracktown” staring Kerry Washington playing as a transsexual. She has a white friend who’s a transsexual too and he comes from a very wealthy family. He lived his life as a female and went by the name Gabrielle. His mother threaten to cut him off financially, if he continued to live as a female. He stopped wearing women’s clothes and told his transsexual friend, he was going to get his boobs removed, get cured thru therapy, and live his life as a man. His reason, he did not want to be cut off from his mother financially and be poor. With this being said, neither of you have walked in someone else shoes. My family is very important to me as well as my 5 year old son. I can assure you to be black, Puerto Rican, and Catholic hasn’t been easy for me. After reading many of the vicious racist vile comments on this site is a turn off to the homosexual life style. I would rather be Asexual or hook back up with a female and put this homosexual feelings out of my mind and live a straight life. I realize, gays are not supportive of one another. All most want to do is destroy others with their hatred.
Black Hispanic
After reading many of the vicious racist vile comments on this site is a turn off to the homosexual life style. I would rather be Asexual or hook back up with a female and put this homosexual feelings out of my mind and live a straight life. I realize, gays are not supportive of one another. All most want to do is destroy others with their hatred.
Black Hispanic
I watched a movie last week on Starz entitled “Life Is Hot In Cracktown” staring Kerry Washington playing as a transsexual. She has a white friend who’s a transsexual too and he comes from a very wealthy family. He lived his life as a female and went by the name Gabrielle. His mother threaten to cut him off financially, if he continued to live as a female. He stopped wearing women’s clothes and told his transsexual friend, he was going to get his boobs removed, get cured thru therapy, and live his life as a man. His reason, he did not want to be cut off from his mother financially and be poor.
Black Hispanic
@James_From_The_Great_City_of_Cambridge: I agree with your comment 100%. It’s so sad!
Michael
Likely, this was removed from YouTube by an employee who thought it was posted in error. Sorry, but this is really bad. What grade did you say these guys were in? Yikes!
Kev C
Black, white, straight, gay, rich, poor .. everyone looks better in pink deck shoes.
Daddy Grace Fish Sandwich
I debated on whether or not to respond to the asinine comments made about me on this blog. @Action Jackson & Wannabegay2, I don’t need either of you faggots to valid me as a human being. Who are you to judge me? This is a blog on the Internet and losers like you both can come on here an attack others for their beliefs or how they live their life’s anonymous. I have come to terms with my life and I am perfectly happy. It’s my business or others if they choose not to live as an openly gay person. I don’t have to announce my sexuality or whom I’m sleeping with to know one. The same goes for heterosexuals. I can assure you, I am a masculine black man that’s not feminine. I was born a man, therefore I will act like one. I happen to be a same gender loving man. Myself and other prefer not to use the term gay. Look the term gay up in the Dictionary and it means happy. Many gay men aren’t happy.
Lookyloo
Am I missing something in these comments/commenters? I understand why ‘Jesse Helms’ is posting (he’s a troll of some sort having a laugh and perhaps trying to increase the number of comments) but why are others taking him seriously? Or are they.. it is a schtick by all parties sniping back and forth? If so, Jesse’s pretty good but the rest of you are dull and predictable. Also – Many people here seem to be of the mindset that gays shouldn’t be criticizing other gays. Well we can. Especially if they put themselves in a video on the internet. It serves no purpose and is disingenuous for people of any group to approve of each other unconditionally. And it’s not going to happen in a group as diverse as ‘the gay community’. Jeeze! Am I the only one around here who’s perfect?!?
Dishy
@Daddy Grace Fish Sandwich:
have you ever been to Seattle? There are very few people of color. AND on top of that most of the men are ugly as hell!
gilber
they are all super hot, that looked like gay paradise to me,i can’t wait to be there someday.
DEREK WASHINGTON
You guys and your fake race war are idiots.
counterpoll
@Black Hispanic: ‘Gypsies’ refer to themselves as ‘Romani’ and are found throughout central Europe. The best genetic evidence we have is that their roots are in the Indian sub-continent, centuries ago, Their is little connection with them and the country of Romania: they are essentially nomads.
The creation of the EU has facilitated their cross-border migration but has done little to reduce their rate of poverty or to improve their chances of obtaining a decent education.
Aric Smith
Few men of color and the rest are all ugly in Seattle?? Sounds like your the one who has not been here honey. I live in Seattle and your statement is totally false.
CrnkMnky
@Daddy Grace Fish Sandwich: There ain’t no black men in this vid cuz the black men ain’t show up. Perhaps the organizers don’t have any Facebook friends who are black AND like camping in Washington AND like dancing to Katy Perry AND had room in their schedules… jeez.
Honestly, yours are troll questions. If you don’t like a YouTube video, make a better one. If you believe such a diverse video can be made, MAKE IT YOURSELF! Post a Facebook event and invite your racially diverse group of friends and tell them to invite all of theirs and plan the thing. Stop expecting someone else to reflect you and yours (Man in the Mirror 2010).
If I had the confidence, I would’ve shot a video with ALL of the kids at YouthPride Atlanta years ago. The club kids and J-Settes all interspersed in a musical collage or whatever. Kinda like a Janet video, but even more gay. The youth were fairly segregated by race and economics last time I hung out there.
If you’re not just trolling and actually want to see something like this happen, let’s talk. Google me…
ExSeesYou
@Black Hispanic: I am supportive of all gays. I accept you as a gay, black latino. Sadly, I’m one of the few who is open minded in the gay community. You just have to deal with it and stay away from the narrow minded morons. Surround yourself with people that love and understand you for you and everything that comes with it. Don’t say you’ll go asexual,etc. That’s just dumb.
ExSeesYou
@Daddy Grace Fish Sandwich: You contradicted yourself with that last statement. No respect for you.~
Daddy Grace Fish Sandwich
@Exeesyou: Fool I don’t need your respect or approval. You are a total stranger in my life, therefore go fuck yourself.
Andrew
@JESSE HELMS LOVES BIG BLACK COCK!
Kendra
I don’t see anything about this that is bad..it just looks like some guys having fun making a video parody of a song.Honestly i saw nothing that said these guys are gay until someone brought it up and even if they are there is no reason to take the video down.It’s not like they are doing anything considered to much for a music video.Most rappers music videos offend and they are not taking those down.
Aaron in Honolulu
I don’t think you should tell any group of people that they are too much of a color or too less of a color. The racial demographic of the group in the video probably just reflects the racial demographic of the place they live in. They are making a fun video not a public service announcement. Let them be.
Sam lovell
Haha ! that was the funny’ist thing ever ! <3 aww that put me in a really good mood :)Xxxx
ExSeesYou
@Daddy Grace Fish Sandwich: Nah, thanks though. Only whiny little bitches like you can go fuck themselves. You wanna cry over shit for nothing and then not even stand by it. Just shut the fuck up and spare the rest of us of your bullshit, you raging little thundercunt.
jack
Reading all these posts gives me such a warm & fuzzy feeling about the gay “community.”
James
@Black Hispanic: Hey, I can offer you a hug and maybe a hump. LOL!!! I’m white-latino by the way and to me black hispanics are our people.