“I’ve cried like you have no idea.”
That’s the alleged ex-lover of Omar Mateen, the Orlando shooter who murdered 49 people at the gay nightclub Pulse a week and a half ago.
Going by the fake name “Miguel” and wearing a disguise, the man sat down with Univision for an exclusive interview, during which he claimed without presenting even a shred of evidence that Mateen didn’t do what he did for terrorism — despite Mateen’s own words on Facebook and in calls to 911 on the night of the shooting.
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Instead, he claims he did it for revenge, and says Mateen felt taken advantage of by members of the gay community.
“He adored Latinos,” he said. “Gay Latinos, with brown skin, but he felt rejected. He felt used by them. There were moments in the Pulse nightclub that made him really mad. Guys used him. That really affected him.”
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Miguel claims what sent Mateen over the edge was sleeping with two Puerto Rican men, one of whom confessed he was HIV-positive after the encounter.
According to “Miguel”:
He was terrified that he was infected. I asked him, ‘Did you do a test?’ Yes. He went to the pharmacy and did the test … it came out negative, but it doesn’t come out right away. It takes four, five months. When I asked him what he was going to do now, his answer was, ‘I’m going to make them pay for what they did to me.’”
He strained credulity to the breaking point by insisting that Mateen was a “very sweet guy.” According to CBS, the two men met up about twenty times last year and first found one another on a hookup app. They soon became “friends with benefits.”
He claims Mateen never told him his name, but did reveal pertinent facts about his life: He was married, he had a son, and Mateen’s wife apparently knew he frequented gay bars.
In fact, he insists their whole twice married thing was a sham to conceal from Mateen’s father that his son was “100 percent” gay.
Apparently he never showed a violent side and loved to be cuddled.
“He was looking for love,” the source told Univsion.
Asked why he decided to come forward, he simply said, “It’s my responsibility as a citizen of the United states and a gay man.”
Find a link to the original interview here:
EXCLUSIVA: Presunto amante de Omar Mateen asegura que la #MasacreenOrlando fue una venganza. https://t.co/RPe5hEVBbV pic.twitter.com/Cjk77FquKH
— Univision Noticias (@UniNoticias) June 21, 2016
Billy Budd
This is so bizarre. Let’s wait to see if it is true. I am sure the killer was at least closeted. Even his wife said so.
Baba Booey Fafa Fooey
Earlier last week, Mateen was not on gay dating apps which was confirmed by the FBI and Jack’d (where somebody said they met him in Jack’d). Grindr needs to confirm if Mateen used their service.
ingyaom
What a freak.
DCguy
So they were together for months, but he has no pictures or phone records?
And he is really jumping out to do the interviews quick, looks like he might be one of the fake attention seekers, because also, not to be bitchy, but…….unless Matteen was a rentboy and this guy was paying him, I’m doubting they were a couple. Matteen was a f-ed up murdering psycho, but I don’t see these two as a couple.
Tackle
This is interesting. It was Latin night at Pulse, and a couple of the Black survivors clamed that Mateen asked why they were barricaded in the restroom or back room, ” If there were any Blacks in here?” When a couple of them said yes, Mateen reportedly said something to the affect, ” I don’t have a problem with you guys. You’ve suffered enough.” So I’m not saying what the alleged ex-lover is saying is true. But I wont altogether dismiss it either. On a side note, I don’t know the dating patterns of Latinos/Hispanics in Florida. But I do find it hard to believe that Mateen would face a lot of rejection, based on looks, unless there is a preference for White men, or others, from many of the Latinos there??
Paco
This is an interesting development, but excuse me for being skeptical of his claims. If he is an attention seeker wanting his 15 minutes of fame, then a disguise and fake name isn’t the best way to achieve that if no one knows his name and what he really looks like.
Reading the comments about this at other gay sites made one thing clear… No one reads. They just look at the make-up job on this guy and comment about his looks without realizing it is a disguise.
Sweetie Pie
The whole story smells fishy…probably put together by someone who wants to smear the GLBT Latino community…anyway, if it ends up being true one thing is for certain: Omar Mateen had a poor taste for men
Billy Budd
@DCguy: The face is fake. It is totally made-up. It is hollywood make-up. Can’t you see that? It is a disguise. Only the eyes are his.
….”Going by the fake name “Miguel” and wearing a disguise……”
DDstar1me
I have some doubts regarding all the gay connections being addressed throughout this case. In addition, how do all these theories connect with ISIS?
DCguy
@Billy Budd:
I couldn’t tell, I just thought it was a really really weird looking guy to tell you the truth.
GayEGO
With the hateful religious teaching he had and if he was gay, anything could happen if he could not deal with his sexuality, who knows.
Aries3dc
OMG — I thought that’s how he looked before I read the story. LOL.
Captain Obvious
It’s really starting to piss me off that so many people seem so willing to ignore, deny, and outright claim that all of these people saying they knew Mateen are liars. What reason would they have to lie about knowing him as a patron, from Grindr, or even dating when they saw half their friends get murdered in a club?!
Are we really going to allow people to use these deaths as their agenda to start a war? These people died senselessly and this war hungry country wants to use it as an excuse to cause MORE deaths. Now I’m mad.
tzwicky
Has anyone noticed that the “mystery boyfriend” looks a lot like Senator Palpatine after his battle with Mace Windu????
Pistolo
@Captain Obvious: I remember once reading that when Amelia Earhart first went missing, they sent out a transmission urging her to contact a certain frequency. The emergency line set up for her, within the space of mere hours, was FLOODED with people pretending to be her…they all just wanted a piece of the action- even at the risk of causing too much traffic for the actual Amelia Earhart. People are strange like that.
And anyways, can people please stop desperately clinging to the notion all homophobes are secretly gay? I hate, hate, hate, hate, hate that ignorant line of thinking because it just exonerates the many straight people who’ve stood in our way.
Baba Booey Fafa Fooey
Don’t people who lie always look to the right?
CWM85
This is digusting, this guy and univision. Trying to paint this mass murderer as a victim. Disgusting. How low can some people or media go? This man said it was for isis. He scoped out other targets. It was hate and teorroism. Unvision maybe trying to drag glbt community in mud… makes me sick!
jdboston617
@Captain Obvious: Well in this case, there are several reasons that I can think of:
1. He’s in disguise. If, as he says, it’s his responsibility as an American citizen… Oh yeah, then show us your face, hero.
2. He offers ZERO evidence. He said he met this man 20 times and has no evidence and didn’t even know the man’s name. Bullsh*t. 20 times they met- if that’s true than he had more sex with him than most couples. Don’t buy it.
3. Over the counter HIV tests take minutes. 4-5 months? That’s a laughable claim.
4. His reasoning for killing was vengeance to the Latino community because they rejected him? Again, bullsh*t! If it was vengeance than he would have gone after the man or men who infected him. He didn’t.
5. He describes him as a “sweet guy” even though every person in his lifetime claims he was a violent, disturbed child, young person, and adult.
No offense, but that’s plenty enough reason to say – bullsh*t. My only questions are- was this man paid for his interview? And why, without evidence would they green-light the interview in the first place.
Baba Booey Fafa Fooey
http://m.wikihow.com/Detect-Lies
DCguy
@jdboston617:
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PRINCE OF SNARKNESS aka DIVKID
Zoinks! Looks like every *unmasked* Scooby Doo villain ever, paradoxically. Nefariousness afoot!
Xzamilio
@jdboston617: Regarding your number 3, I do believe he was saying it may take 4 to 5 months for the HIV to appear on a test, not that the test takes that long before it comes back with a result.
jdboston617
@Xzamilio: Ah, perhaps I misread that one. Thank you, but that would be untrue as well. If you were exposed/infected it would take between 6 weeks to 3 months to show a positive anti-virus test.
Captain Obvious
@jdboston617: So what you’re saying is this is a conspiracy? Cause you seriously just posted a bunch of conspiracy theories. This is way too much paranoia for me.
The big bag terrorists don’t have me cowering in the corner, I’m still living my life, as are a lot of other people. There’s no proof that this is more than an isolated incident and therefore not worth focusing so much time and energy on.
What people should’ve focused on was learning about the people who died and sending positive thoughts and prayers to their families. I guess that’s not as fun or interesting and pretending to be living a live action movie full of drama and spies.
Realitycheck
@Baba Booey Fafa Fooey: Most of it is just guessing game, a nervous person can do lots o those things because he/she is nervous and it means just that, not a lie.
jdboston617
@Captain Obvious: Conspiracy? Give me a break. I’m saying this man is a complete LIAR. No conspiracy in that. I read his “facts” and they are bullsh*t. There is nothing paranoid in what I wrote AT ALL. Questioning someone’s claims is what a good journalist does.
As far as what people should be focusing on. Listen here, captain obvious, you have no idea who I am or what I do or what I think or how I react to this tragedy. At all. So please … don’t tell us what we should be focusing on. At this moment, I was reading this article and your idiotic comments. We done here? I hope so.
Kieran
Fake name + Wearing a disguise = Zero credibility.
Xzamilio
@jdboston617: Yeah, that did seem a bit far fetched. But, I am just as skeptical as you are since there’s an opportunist willing to milk the publicity if someone’s willing to listen, and I find it incredibly shoddy on the part of Univision to just go with a story without checking its validity. As for the person you’re replying to… leave it alone. Nothing good comes out of talking to that dude.
gilmanr
@Pistolo: A million times this. Within hours of this tragedy, certain members of our community were developing the closet case hypothesis with sweaty palmed glee. This trend, not Mateen’s well evidenced history of heterosexuality, is the real manifestation of self hatred and internalized homiphobia. Grindr and Jackd have already given statements indicating Mateen never had an account or made a posting. Now this guy emerges claiming to have hooked up over a period of weeks without a single incoming or outgoing call to show for it.
It’s time to face it, guys: Mateen was straight. What I can’t figure out for the life of me is why this fact bothers some of you so much.
Kieran
What message does this send to oppressed gays around the world, that even in the USA, gays feel the need to hide who they are?
jdboston617
@DCguy: @Xzamilio: Thanks guys!!!
ingyaom
Where’s his GRINDR profile and dic-pics, etc? If we could see them, then this story would be more credible.
Mack
As if the killing of 49 gay people wasn’t enough, now they’re saying one of “ours” did the killing? I have to wonder if this isn’t a setup by some hate church. Until I see the evidence I don’t think it’s credible. Any one can get up and say anything but without proof it really doesn’t do anything except give the right wingers evidence to use against us.
Brian
I believe that this guy is telling the truth as to his trysts with Mateen.
Stilinski26
All propaganda not believing it one bit!
Me2
Sorry, not buying it! I just simply do not believe him.
stanpaske
@DCguy: Agreed!
dubril
Who cares whether his hatred for Latin gays was because they rejected him because of his race. So what if his motivation for killing Latin gays was at least in part racial animosity against Latinos for their rejecting him as they pursued the beautiful, fair-complected white males. Everybody knows that white males are at the top of the sexual heap in the gay community, the brass ring everybody, white and nonwhite, are trying to grab. No big secret. But the relevant point is that the influence that tipped him over the edge, that made it possible for him to overcome any moral resistance to retaliate by shooting Latinos right and left for their rejection of him, was the Muslim religion of violence. Don’t forget that without the Muslim religion of violence 49 gay Latinos would be alive today in Orlando.
Greg
I don’t think Mateen had any link to ISIS. He just wanted fame and telling the FBI during the shooting that he was linked to ISIS was going to get him that fame. Apparently he was texting his wife asking if what was happening was trending. Somebody should have hit him with a stool or grabbed a bottle and hit him with it the two times he reloaded. Instead, they were all texting and taking selfies.
Baba Booey Fafa Fooey
“Grindr and Jackd have already given statements indicating Mateen never had an account or made a posting. Now this guy emerges claiming to have hooked up over a period of weeks without a single incoming or outgoing call to show for it.”
Shame in these people for agreeing to this interview.
Baba Booey Fafa Fooey
Shame on
Baba Booey Fafa Fooey
@Realitycheck: Not if he’s telling the truth.
Brian
@Baba Booey Fafa Fooey: It is possible to use Grindr anonymously, isn’t it?
Kangol
I find the story plausible, since others did come forward to claim that Mateen had been in Pulse, had asked out a classmate, and had cruised men on gay dating/sex apps. I find his attempt to blame Mateen’s murderous actions on anger at Latinxs and a bad hookup with two Puerto Rican guys. That’s offensive. He said he slaughtered the people out of allegiance to ISIS. He previously had pledged allegiance to the Taliban and Hezbollah (who hate each other). His first wife said he was an abusive jerk, and had to escape him. He was clearly a disturbed, closeted homophobe who was looking for something to hang his self-hate onto. I just wish he hadn’t taken away 49 lives and injured 53 more in the process.
scott747
I’m not sure why there are so many people here who simply dismiss this guy when several other Pulse patrons have said they saw him there and talked with him, they’d seen him there for three years and his wife stated that she thought he was gay. The least plausible motive for this slaughter is his Islamist terrorist connections based on the history we know thus far and his phone call pledging devotion to both ISIS and Hezbollah, two terrorist organizations who are at this moment killing each other in Iraq and Syria. Not real terrorist would ever say this. Just sayin’
batesmotel
Lol! What a joke. Tons of gossip of his sexuality, but zero physical proof that point to that. Even the FBI wasn’t able to find any substantial evidence pointing to him being gay. The guy took advantage of gays and was trying to get close before he made his big move. Found a club where hundreds would be at with little to now way to exit the place. It was perfect!
Xzamilio
So, it appears that he might be telling the truth, as TMZ just reported that the hotel they allegedly hooked up at has footage of Mateen checking in at least once.
Keebler ILF
@Tackle:
Didn’t one guy say he rejected Mateen because Mateen was in the closet.
This gay & terrorist stuff reminds me of the cable TV series Sleeper Cell.
DistingueTraces
Uh.
This guy seems transparently fake.
Tackle
@Keebler ILF: Yes I did hear that…
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Masc Pride
The interview and disguise are a bit bizarre, but there could be some truth to this. Seems incredibly odd to just make up. We already know gay men don’t handle rejection well, so he’s got a fairly plausible explanation. All over gay sites users have been adamantly stating Mateen was closeted — no question or doubt about it. Now a guy comes forward claiming to have been with Mateen and offering a reason as to why the massacre happened…and no one wants to believe him? Do we want Mateen to be gay or not? Make up your minds, guys!
SonOfKings
Next they’ll be saying Matten was transgendered, and displaying pumps and dresses to “prove” it.
DarkZephyr
@Billy Budd: His first wife never said he was gay. She was presented with the theory that he was gay and her response was that he could have been but that if he was, he hid it from her, possibly out of shame or embarrassment.
DarkZephyr
@Masc Pride: “We already know gay men don’t handle rejection well, so he’s got a fairly plausible explanation.”
I have been ignoring most of your bull shit for a long time and I will GLADLY go back to doing so, but really Masc? It seems REASONABLE to you that 49 people died in a haze of gunfire because “we already know that gay men don’t handle rejection well”?
I know you have some strange need to constantly insult and belittle the group that the men that you have sex with when you are in the mood for the D rather than the V come from, and you jump at every chance to do so, but don’t you think you could have skipped this one? Especially so soon after the massacre? There is something very fundamentally wrong with you, Masc.
DarkZephyr
@Xzamilio: It should be of note that the FBI has investigated this guy and does not find him credible: http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-orlando-gay-fbi-20160623-snap-story.html
curan
“Without a shred” is incorrect – hotel clerks have corroborated that an individual they recognize as Mateen frequented the facility. Granted, this is tenuous, but is certainly more than a shred.
There is a resonance of truth to this. The sordid details should come out, and should this prove true, radical Islam is nothing more than a veneer.
Rage over disease deception is nothing new. There is a resonance of truth to this.
DarkZephyr
@curan: you and Masc make a great pair. Masc thinks its perfectly “reasonable” to assume that gay men will commit mass murder over being rejected and you think people who contract HIV or AIDS committing mass murder has a “resonance of truth” to it. I am gonna go with the FBI on this one, myself. You two can go ahead and speak for yourselves.
Philigree
@DarkZephyr: i’m not saying that masc (shivers) is right to think what he thinks. but it is possible. it’s far-fetched but possible for something as seemingly trivial as rejection to have a role in something like this. if he is already not right in the head to begin with, something so commonplace may be enough to cause something this horrific.
on another note, notice the similar tenor among the likes of brian and masc. if they’re getting paid to spout this shit, i hope they’re getting paid well at least.
DarkZephyr
@Philigree: The only person I know of in recent memory who committed mass murder over rejection was a straight guy named Elliot Rodger.
curan
@DarkZephyr: I would point you to the precedent of the Versace murders in saying that this scenario has (likely) unwound before:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Cunanan
This jump to conclusions may be entirely unwarranted, but I’ll quote Twain in reply: history never repeats itself, but it often rhymes.
Masc Pride
@DarkZephyr: Calm your tits, Mary. That one line you’re so outraged about is in reference to the whining so many gay men do after being rejected on apps (namely Grindr), which is particularly well documented on this site. I clearly stated the mentally unstable reactions to rejection that are rather common in this community make the disguised guy’s claim sound like a plausible explanation, which is not the same as saying Mateen’s reaction was reasonable. You’d save yourself so much outrage if you’d take some time to just comprehend before you rant. You frequently misunderstand comments here.
Baba Booey Fafa Fooey
@Masc Pride: Have you ever been on Breitbart? I think that site is right up your alley. You have that Milo person and it’s very conservative over there. If you aren’t aware of it, you should check it out. I think it’s much more your speed. Do you post there?
Here’s a topic they discuss:
http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2015/12/11/dear-straight-people-im-officially-giving-you-permission-to-say-gay-faggot-and-queer/
Baba Booey Fafa Fooey
@DarkZephyr: Thanks for posting that. It’s very obvious why that man was disguised. He’s a liar. Probably paid too.
Masc Pride
@Baba Booey Fafa Fooey: Nice try, but I’ve been a registered democrat for 13 years (since I was 21, not a convert). If you want to be passive-aggressive and imply I’m a republican, knock yourself out. It’s just more proof of how wrong you usually are. You suck at ad hominem.
Baba Booey Fafa Fooey
@Masc Pride: You should go there. Check it out.
Masc Pride
@Baba Booey Fafa Fooey: You should stick to “booey” and “fooey”. More your speed.
Baba Booey Fafa Fooey
@Masc Pride: You should go there.
Masc Pride
@Baba Booey Fafa Fooey: You should stick to “booey” and “fooey”.
Baba Booey Fafa Fooey
@Masc Pride: Go. Let me know.
Masc Pride
@Baba Booey Fafa Fooey: No.
Baba Booey Fafa Fooey
@Masc Pride: You’d be happier over there. You don’t have to be Republican. I think you’d be surprised how much you find yourself agreeing with them over there.
Masc Pride
@Baba Booey Fafa Fooey: I’m happy wherever I go. You seem to know a lot about this site you wish to shove down my throat. You’re very pushy and easily offended, just like Michelle Fields. Interesting.