Another Republican presidential candidate debate, and another opportunity to wonder how the party got into such a mess. The debate itself was remarkable because it took a cast of characters that wandered in from Alice in Wonderland and made them boring. In the midst of this yawn fest, Marco Rubio came off best, if only because he possesses superior varsity debate skills and didn’t have to answer tough questions about his flip-flopping on immigration.
Everyone else played their assigned roles: Trump was a blowhard, Fiorina the hard-charging CEO, Cruz the true believer, and Bush the incredible shrinking man.
And then there’s Ben Carson.
Carson has been having his moment in the sun, leading in some Iowa polls, apparently because some people mistake his low-key demeanor for reason. His debate performance only solidified that impression. But Carson illustrates pretty much everything that’s wrong with the GOP these days.
For one thing, he’s an extremist. Carson first came to widespread attention when he had to cancel a commencement speak at Johns Hopkins after he let loose a torrent of homophobic comments. Of course, that only endeared him to the party base. But homophobia is the least of it. Carson is a follower of far-right conspiracy theorist labeled by the conservative National Review as an “all-around nutjob.”
Cleon Skousen believed that Communists had burrowed into every level of government, industry and culture in America with the intention of destroying American life. Carson has simply transferred the Skousen’s rants to the “secular progressives” that he regularly complains about.
Carson has been pretty good at imitating a nutjob on his own. For a renowned brain surgeon, he’s remarkably stupid, with beliefs that are inexplicable in a man of science. There’s his belief that the Biblical figure Joseph built the pyramids as triangular grain elevators. He’s condemned Charles Darwin as inspired by Satan. He’s argued that if Nazis hadn’t had stringent gun laws, the Holocaust might never have happened.
Then there are the people that Carson surrounds himself with. First and foremost among these is Armstrong Williams, one of those fringe figures who makes a handsome living in the conservative political entertainment complex. Armstrong rose to fame defending Clarence Thomas, his former boss, and rode the connection to make himself a media figure, with his own TV and radio shows.
Needless to say, Williams has been reliably homophobic. He has also been accused of sexually harassing a male employee in a suit that was reportedly settled out of court. Ethics have never exactly been Armstrong’s long suit; in 2005, he lost his media gig when it turned out the Bush White House paid him $241,000 to promote its No Child Left Behind legislation.
So what role does Williams play in the Carson campaign? He’s the business manager.
Which raises the question of whether Carson is running a campaign or a business himself. At times, he stops campaigning to sell books and spends the bulk of the money he raises on raising more money, not on campaign expenses. His candidacy has all the earmarks of a resume-building experience meant to inflate his book-writing and speech-making fees.
And finally, there’s Carson’s relationship with the truth, which leaves a lot to be desired. He’s come out with a series of tales about his youth that sound suspiciously embellished at a minimum.
But here’s where the psychosis of the GOP base comes into clearest view. Carson could be a sociopathic liar, and the base wouldn’t care. Carson chose the right defense: he’s being attacked for who he is, not what he said. It’s all part of the vast left-wing media conspiracy.
That may be the saddest commentary of all. The Republican party has created followers who no longer care about objective facts. Anything that disrupts their world view can be dismissed as pure bias. By any reasonable standard, Carson should be a punch line. Instead, he’s a front runner.
Carson may eventually fade from the scene, but those voters will not. The question now is, how can a party survive when it is so divorced from reality?
Robert Bartlett
CivicMinded
I have the sneaking suspicion that Ben Carson has mental health issues. His demeanor, admission to past acts of violence, and some of the anti-science things he espouses all say to me that he’s a ticking time bomb.
Luis H. Lopez
A liar and homophobe !
1EqualityUSA
The segment about the kill-the-gays pastor in Iowa hosting three Republicans is so, so fun. The GOP is a bridge mix of nuts!
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show
Joe
I don’t like this guy at all. He is a narcissist, lying sack of trouble who compares slavery to abortion. What planet is this man on? This man has a tempered past. I don’t want someone like him in the White House.
It’s coming soon…it’s only a matter of time before Carson’s bid for President self implodes by his own admissions.
Wil Chaney
Glad to see that queerty is falling for the media bias. He’s not my choice, but the lies told about him last week were uncalled for. It also shows that a black man cannot be a republican. Had the media done it’s job in vetting Obama, he would not have become president.
Alexis Barros
I can’t stand hearing him talk!!!
Giancarlo85
Carson is a self serving piece of s..t. He’s already going down anyways. The GOP primaries is a big joke.
@Wil Chaney: Blah blah blah blah… what media bias? There is no bias when it comes to reporting on his dishonesty and attempts of manipulation. This has nothing to do with him being black. By the way, Obama would have become President and he’s been a fine President. I don’t see what Obama said that was wrong… Carson on the other hand has said many things that are wrong.
So please explain to us what was so wrong with Obama and why he would not have become President. I’d like to hear it.
Blackceo
@Wil Chaney:
Oh please. You know how I’m sure there is nothing out there on Obama the way people are claiming? Because if there was the Clintons would have found it. Trust and believe. That’s how I knew the whole birth certificate thing was nonsense. You think Bill and Hillary didnt have their spies out there trying to find dirt on Obama? Since he got the nomination it means that there wasnt anything.
As for Carson, BAT SHIT CRAZY!!! The man will never be President of the United States. He appeals to a faction of the country that is not enough to get him through a general election, and he will not get the nomination. The drivel he spouts is so ridiculous I can only laugh. Questions on the economy and foreign policy last night he looked like a deer in the headlights. I thought the GOP Clown Car couldn’t have gotten more laughable than the candidates from 2012, but this bunch makes Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich seem liberal.
Desert Boy
Dr. Ben ‘Stabby’ Carson is batshit crazy. He believes:
– his autobiography is the Bible and above fact-checking
– the mortgage deduction can go
– Obamacare is worst thing since slavery
– the President can ignore the U.S. Supreme Court
– straight men who enter prison will leave prison gay
– there might not be a 2016 election
– the U.S. is very much like Nazi Germany
– he tried to kill his mother with a knife or hammer
– God gave him the answers to his college chemical exam
This guy is flat-out nuts.
Aromaeus
Ben Carson is a perfect example of how messed up the republican party and republican base is. The man is barely coherent, has lied just about everything major in his life, has no real tangible policy ideas that make any sense, yet he’s overtaking Trump in some polls. He’s more likeable than Trump. CNN did a poll asking if they liked him the more they heard from him and people agreed by a wide margin. It makes absolutely no effing sense to me.
Rimmington
@Alexis Barros: He sounds just like Mike Tyson.
Giancarlo85
@Aromaeus: Um… why are you trying to make sense of the republican party and its core supporters? LOL. They make batshit crazy look sane. Some mysteries should just remain unsolved.
aliengod
@Aromaeus: I agree. He reminds me of another liar named Hillary Clinton.
BJ McFrisky
For those brainwashed (or braindead) individuals, here’s something to ponder . . .
If a Republican doesn’t like guns, he doesn’t buy one.
If a Democrat doesn’t like guns, he wants guns outlawed.
If a Republican is a vegetarian, he doesn’t eat meat.
If a Democrat is a vegetarian, he wants meat products banned.
If a Republican is gay, he quietly leads his life.
If a Democrat is gay, he demands legislated respect.
If a Republican is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation.
A Democrat wonders who is going to take care of him.
If a Republican doesn’t like a talk show host, he switches channels.
Democrats demand those they don’t like be shut down.
If a Republican is an atheist, he quietly chooses not to go to church.
A Democrat atheist wants any mention of religion silenced, while at the same time treating atheism itself as a protected religion.
If a Republican decides he needs health care, he shops for it, or chooses a job that provides it.
A Democrat demands the rest of us pay for his.
If a Republican reads this, he’ll forward it so his friends can have a good laugh.
A Democrat will flag it and post a nasty comment, because he’s offended.
Bob LaBlah
Ok, call my comment “ol Bob LaBlah being himself” if you so desire but it is my opinion; I don’t get why blacks HAVE to thank god for their achievements while it (god) is absent from the acceptance of just about everything to all others. He studied the SAME books, went to the SAME school, sat and listened to the SAME professors as did his classmates of other “cultural backgrounds” but he (as do the majority) need to thank Mr. White Mans’ god for his achievements? Some thing is seriously WRONG with a man who thinks the pyramids were built to store grain (I kid you not, he DID say that).
This guy is not a ticking bomb. He is what is referred to as a TOTAL/COMPLETE damn fool.
Bob LaBlah
@Aromaeus: I am beginning to wonder why he is NEVER photographed with his wife. Things what make you go hmmmmmm.
BigWill
@Wil Chaney: You just proved something written verbatim in this column. You couldn’t care less about the facts; “it’s all part of the vast left-wing media conspiracy.”
You are either being willfully obtuse or forgetful. Do you not remember Barak Obama’s pastor, Jeremiah Wright, being discussed endlessly? One day Obama was a Muslim, the next he was a Christian who sat in the pulpit of madman. And, god, his parentage and place of birth? Still being discussed to this day.
Perhaps you could cite whatever’s in his past that wasn’t vetted and would have kept him from being elected twice?
Giancarlo85
@aliengod: You seem to have some screws loose.
@BJ McFrisky: A nice red herring pile of BS. Most of which isn’t true. Show me where democrats wants gun outlawed. LOL. They can’t even pass improved background checks.
“If a Democrat is a vegetarian, he wants meat products banned.”
Nope.
“If a Republican is gay, he quietly leads his life.”
Nope. He lies and sits in the closet, while supporting candidates that hate him and calls his sexual orientation “a dangerous lifestyle choice”.
“If a Republican is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation.”
Which is why most republican states are impoverished and have no jobs. So much for “bettering” the situation. Democrats actually work for a living. Most welfare goes to impoverished republican states. A state like California pays more than it gets from the federal government. Why do we pay more to support other states? I think California is being sold short.
“Democrats demand those they don’t like be shut down.”
Really? Care to show where?
“A Democrat atheist wants any mention of religion silenced, while at the same time treating atheism itself as a protected religion.”
Where is the proof of that? That is another lie.
Thanks for posting that list of lies.
“If a Republican decides he needs health care, he shops for it, or chooses a job that provides it.
A Democrat demands the rest of us pay for his.”
Oh wow. You need to decide “you need health care”. Shopping for it? More like being ripped off.
In every other developed country in the world they have universal health care. Time to catch up with the rest of the world. Germany has had universal health care since the 1880s.
“If a Republican reads this, he’ll forward it so his friends can have a good laugh.
A Democrat will flag it and post a nasty comment, because he’s offended.”
That’s interesting, considering republicans flag comments on here all the time and get comments deleted.
Yeah, debunked. Got anymore lies you wanna share?
Giancarlo85
““If a Republican is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation.”
This is a dangerous lie… and one republicans always use all the time.
https://wallethub.com/edu/states-most-least-dependent-on-the-federal-government/2700/
Out of the top 10 states that are LEAST dependent on federal government, only one is republican. The other 9 are democrat or swing democrat states. The top ten states MOST dependent states (40-50th on that list), eight are republican and only two are democrat.
Yeah… so what was that about republicans trying to “better” their situation? They can’t seem to get off the federal funding +faucet.
Paul Lukasiak
@Wil Chaney: The problem is that no lies were told about Carson, and any inaccuracies in reporting were a direct result of Carson’s own statements.
1) Carson claimed that he recieved a “full scholarship” to West Point. In order to receive a free education from West Point, you have to apply and be accepted. Politico found out that Carson had not been accepted at West Point, and there was no record of Carson applying to West Point. So when the Carson campaign, confronted with this information, acknowledged that Carson had only received a “informal” offer, the Politico described Carson’s assertion (and the claims that logically can be derived from that assertion) as a fabrication. In sum, without Carson’s lie, there would have been no reporting error.
2) The sole rebuttal to the CNN story raising questions about Carson violent past was a 1997 profile of his mother from Parade magazine that was not even available on-line until November 9th. In that profile, Sonya is described as saying “that happened” after seeing a play written for school children that includes a scene where Carson tries to stab a friend. Now, nowhere in Ben Carson’s narrative is his mother described as a witness, so at best she is a second hand source for “that happened” And when you read further, its difficult to reconcile Carson’s various accounts in which he furiously tries to disembowel someone with Sonya Carson’s reaction to what “happened”. Carson says that she sat her son down, told him not to be a bully, and that kindness worked better than “being harsh”. Keeping in mind that this attempted murder occurred AFTER Ben supposedly attacked various people with “rocks, and bricks, and baseball bats”, and after he used a heavy combination lock to put a three inch gash in the forehead of a classmate, and AFTER he’d GONE AFTER HIS MOTHER WITH A HAMMER — do you really think “don’t be so harsh” would have been Sonya’s reaction?
3) Carson’s own account of the “psychology test” hoax is responsible for any “errors” in reporting. Every verifiable fact that could be checked out was checked out, and found out to be false. Moreover, Carson’s gross misrepresentation (i.e. that it was a social experiment organized by the professor to determine the “most honest student” in the class) of what actually happened (a Yale humor magazine created a spoof edition of the Yale student daily paper which included a story about how some exams were destroyed) and Carson’s apparent inability to recognise that he was the BUTT OF A JOKE, and not the RECIPIENT OF AN HONOR, tells you all you need to know about him.
Paul Lukasiak
@BigWill: Will Cheney is making a common error — turning an assertion for which there is considerable evidence (that Obama was favored by the media in 2008) with one for which there is no evidence (that Obama was not fully vetted in 2008.)
Media bias in favor of Obama, of course, followed about six years of media bias in favor of Bush (from 9/11 through Katrina), and eight years of media bias against Bill Clinton…not to mention eight years of fawning coverage of Ronald Reagan. There is no “left wing” media bias. The bias that does exist is “corporate”.
Bauhaus
@BJ McFrisky:
You’re lashing out at the wrong people. That’s why you’re relegated to sitting at the kids table every holiday. The very people you are sucking up to don’t respect you. They never will, as long as you don’t respect yourself.
Sansacro
@CivicMinded: Totally! Lot of GOP mental illness on this site also. lol.
AtticusBennett
@BJ McFrisky: If a republican doesn’t like gay marriage, they promote anti-gay bigotry across the nation and work to codify prejudice against gay people.
which is why, of courser, BJ McFrisky is an anonymous internet coward with no balls and no spine. one more sack sack internet wimp who will remain the embarrassment to his father that he’s always been.
gay republicans are just such prototypical cowards. the whole lot. wimps who never got over being disappointments to their shi**y republican families.
AtticusBennett
“if a republican is gay, he toes the GOP line because that’s the only way his bigoted family will tolerate his existence”
which is why you gay republicans are always anonymous trolls. you will never be anything other than wimpy disappointments to your white trash families.
Giancarlo85
If an American is a republican, he’s looking to sell this country out in any way possible.
dwes09
@BJ McFrisky:
Ot amazes me how you placw tyourself on the supposed ethical high ground and yet constantly post lies (of if trying to be kind to you, post the products of your imagination as fact):
Few Democrats want “guns outlawed” as opposed to intelligent gun control regulation.
Provide even one bit of proof that “democrats want meat banned” (as opposed to the reality that a few vegans of varied political , or no political leanings want meat banned)
Gay republicans remain in the closet, or at best have a simpering desire for a minimal level of acceptance by those who hate them, and are willing to forgo equal protection under the law in exchange for the most minimal nod of recognition. A perfect example is your defense of a dull witted man who believes that you are a hellbound sinner!
And what is it about the right that they are willing to spend huge amounts of money destabilizing foreign governments, slandering other politicians, denying life options to women and minorities…but whine like babies over the tiny percentage of federal spending that goes to legitimate social safety nets?
And please provide some actual proof that Democrats demand talk show hosts be taken off the air to a greater percentage than the religious right (that you lick the asshole of). Then provide proof of the strange myth that Democrats treat atheism as a protected religion in any way, as opposed to simply not wanting Christianity to be treated as a favored religion
If a Republican is an atheist, he quietly chooses not to go to church.
As for health care, ANY health insurance involves “others paying for it”. That is why insurance requires a large pool of subscribers (are you really that stupid?). And what EXACTLY do you see as either immoral or unethical about trying to expand that protection to as many as possible at a cost to taxpayers that is minimal compared to corporate welfare or military expenditures which go unopposed?
And mostly, why would noting your mean spirited nature, ignorance and stupidity be considered insulting by you when it is simply noting reality? Should your outright lies go un-noted? Is “a good laugh” productive of anything?
I find it hard to understand the self-hatred that drives people like you, not to mention the odd feeling of superiority over others when there is no reason for it.
OzJosh
It’s incredible that even with wall-to-wall nut jobs representing the Republicans so much of the media coverage is about how it’s a sign of confusion or disorganisation in the party, or somehow just bad luck. What it actually is is an accurate representation of the intellectual and ethical shortcomings of the party’s political policies.
BlueDude
When is the *domino effect* going to happen? I’m waiting with great anticipation! Oh, wait! If several of the GOP wannabes can hold out til the Convention, the nationally televised culmunation of the Klown Show should be a true *riot* to witness. I’ll wait!
Robert Bartlett
And then there’s this — which proves the point I made to my husband last night, that even the village idiot can learn how to become adept at a certain skill. http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2015/11/9/1447844/-Dr-Ben-Carson-is-Not-Smart?detail=email
Rogelio Lopez
He has delusions of grandeur. The portrait of him with Jesus is really freaky ! And to think he operated on people’s brains !
Truthteller1234
@BJ McFrisky: Great post. Nice to see that there are at least a few on here who aren’t brainwashed lockstep liberals.
Truthteller1234
And yet all the brainwashed liberal sheep will vote for the dishonest, lying, Hillary Clinton who was “for” everything before she was “against” everything and vice versa.
Giancarlo85
@Truthteller1234: I guess for you the truth goes out the window every single because you prefer distortions and lies. Oh and Hillary is a 100 times more honest than any of the crap your party has pushed.
The only one brainwashed here is you. Brainwashed by Fox News and preprogrammed to make certain statements. You were told to post this garbage.
Brainwashed lockstep conservative! You just repeat what you were told by the talking heads on Fox Nes. It’s funny how all the evidence I provided falls on deaf ears.
Giancarlo85
@Giancarlo85: *I guess for you the truth goes out the window every single time.
I must also add it’s funny how “truthteller” sounds like some drone from Newsmax. You have to wonder where these armchair conservatives get their material from.
tonylovesotis
This article should be titled: Ben Carson’s campaign proves the GOP “HAS” totally lost it. Your proof readers have totally lost it.
Alistair Wiseman
How dare Ben Carson, a black brain surgeon, stray from the liberal plantation! He must be ridiculed, maligned and be victimized by the race-baiting left’s high-tech lynching.
1EqualityUSA
Ben Carson is a nutter. The oval office need not have a nutter.
Giancarlo85
@Alistair Wiseman: Typical drone. It is apparent this troll doesn’t have any original attacks. Race baiting? Ironic considering Carson is the token black guy in an incredibly r*a*c*i*s*t political party. Some Jews supported the Nazis… You cannot help but feel pity for people who hate themselves so much.
1EqualityUSA
Here is a clear explanation of the gerrymandering:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiAq9sIvTJE
1EqualityUSA
or just youtube rachel maddow, “How the Republicans set up a decade-long advantage over Democrats.”
BJ McFrisky
@Truthteller1234: There is hope yet . . .