The term “daddy” has existed for centuries, but over time, its meaning has evolved to refer to desirable older men. Not only has the popularity of the term increased, but same-sex male couples, more than any other type of pairing, are by far more likely to gravitate towards this special kind of dynamic.
In his new book, Daddies of a Different Kind: Sex and Romance Between Older and Younger Adult Gay Men, author and researcher Tony Silva analyzes the stories of gay and bisexual daddies in a qualitative research project, interviewing 39 older men and 26 younger men about their May/December relationships.
Much to his surprise, Silva learned the desire for younger queer men to partner with much older queer men has skyrocketed, directly contradicting old narratives that ageism is rampant in gay culture.
In an exclusive interview, he speaks to Queerty about why young gay men are so ravenous for daddies, and what makes these relationships so meaningful to both parties involved. Check out what he had to say…
Queerty: Congratulations on the book and the study. What fascinated me most about it was that not only are gay daddies being more accepted on dating apps, but they might possibly be getting more attention than non-daddies. What created “daddy mania” out there?
SILVA: For a large segment of the gay community, there is major interest right now in older men and daddies. A lot of the prior research on this topic has focused on something like ageism within the gay community. While it certainly exists, we’re seeing something which is the exact opposite of that!
I talked to the participants about why they thought daddies might be more popular or sought after, and a lot of them thought it was apps, and it makes sense. Apps can connect people of many different social networks, who might not otherwise meet in person. I also think apps have shifted norms to make certain practices more acceptable, like relationships between older and younger men.
That’s a really amazing finding to be able to contradict previous reporting around the ageism in our culture, and actually say, “No, here’s evidence of something different.”
Absolutely. Although it seems like there is an upper limit. The oldest man I talked to was 70, and beyond that point, men probably do experience ageism. But for least a lot of men in midlife, 40’s through 60’s, it seems like there’s quite a bit of interest in them right now.
What is the youngest age you’ve come across someone who identifies as a daddy because of their daddy energy?
There’s a debate right now about the extent to which age is connected to daddyness. I asked men, “What are some of the key characteristics of being a daddy?” The guys I talked to, both older and younger, gave somewhat contradictory responses.
A lot of them said, “Oh, age isn’t as important as these other characteristics, like being in charge or being assertive and mentoring of younger adult men.” But, then others said, “Age is an important component of it.” So, there are some mixed responses there.
I think the takeaway is age is an important component of being a daddy, but not the only one. Although we hear these messages that daddy is a state of mind, it’s a bit more than that too.
As a therapist, I was interested to hear about younger guys wanting older guys to garner a feeling of being “taken care of” by someone with emotional maturity. What other daddy features are the biggest turn-ons for younger guys who are into older daddies?
A lot of the younger guys I talked to overwhelmingly said they found men around their own age (guys in their 20s or early 30s) to be really immature, and were not looking for the same things. They’re interested in someone who is not only emotionally mature and stable, but might also be looking for a relationship. They reported older guys were also better at communication. A lot of the younger men were also attracted to stability. Older men seemed to have a better handle on their life, and just had everything much more in order than younger men.
Of course, younger guys were also physically attracted to older men. I think in wider society, there’s a stereotype that younger people might be interested in older folks just because of money, which is definitely not the case here. Younger men said they found older men very physically attractive: gray hair, silver, beards, salt and pepper hair.
A lot of the younger guys, too, they struck me as very mature, and they appreciated being able to connect with somebody who they felt like was also mature. Some of them describe themselves as “old souls”, so just felt like they had better chemistry with guys who are substantially older.
Let’s talk a little bit more about that physical attraction component. You write about the importance of mentorship and nurturance, and daddy relationships, even around how to have fulfilling sex. What are the ways in which older guys mentor their younger lovers when it comes to sex?
Mentorship, sexual and otherwise, is an important theme. It was really heartwarming to hear that there’s so much emotional intimacy in these relationships.
When it came to sex, a lot of what older and younger men described was older men being able to be more communicative in sex, knowing what they’re interested in, and checking in with the other person to make sure they’ve consented to everything, and were into it.
Older men, in younger men’s experience, were quite a bit more caring, and it was less about just getting off. One participant said it was about actually having an emotional connection, plus fulfilling sex. Also, younger guys appreciated the physical components outside of actual sex, like cuddling, kissing, et cetera.
A lot of the older guys described quite literally teaching some younger adult men what it meant to have sex, modeling it so that younger guys could take it into future encounters, especially since sex ed is not something that most people get when it comes to sex between two men.
A guy who’s in his early 20s, he’s probably not all that experienced, and it’s beneficial for him to be with somebody who has more experience, be with someone who’s non-judgmental, and learn about what it what it takes to have a fulfilling sexual encounter for both partners.
You also talk about masculinity and how often times older guys are seen as masculine, which gives younger men the freedom to either embrace their masculinity or their femininity. Does it ever work the other way, where an older man can identify as a daddy but embrace his feminine side?
All the men I talked to described older men, or at least daddies, as “masculine.” So, it did seem like there was an implicit understanding of daddies as connected to masculinity.
For younger men, there was a lot more diversity in experience, including allowing older men’s masculinity to help younger men embrace their femininity, and release the pressure on themselves to also be masculine.
That’s something that hasn’t been explored in a lot of previous research. Younger men saw being with older men as a way to really be more authentically themselves in terms of their gender expression.
For some people you talked to, it seemed “daddyness” was an energy, more than about actual age. What can a person do to harness their gay daddy energy?
I think being assertive, not necessarily always dominant, although a lot of men did describe consensual dominance as a feature of “daddyness”. Also, having genuine care for other people. So, not just that performative aspect of being dominant in the bedroom, which some men did describe as something they found attractive, but an emotional connection or nurturing to make sure everybody benefited from the experience.
You talk a little bit about how daddies can have “fathering” instincts. Is there anything to the old Freudian theories that if you’re into much older daddies, you have unresolved “daddy issues”?
For a small percentage of people, certainly their experience is related to unresolved concerns with their own father driving interest in in being with older men, but for most people, that’s not what’s going on at all.
What’s the biggest thing that surprised you in your research about the daddy relationships in gay culture?
Demographic research all across the western world shows that man/man couples have a higher commonality of age gaps than woman/woman couples, or man/woman couples, and that’s not changing. In fact, in terms of romantic partnerships, it looks like those rates are staying quite high.
There’s also a lot going on which is not romantic, necessarily, but is in the context of hookups, or friends with benefits, or casual dating. Gay and bisexual men remain very distinct, and this continues to be a special and important part of their culture.
It also struck me too that many of the men I talked to did not seek a romantic partnership with somebody substantially older or younger, because of what they perceived as complications associated with that partnership. So, there were men who felt that they were in somewhat of a bind, especially younger men, who felt attraction to older men, but at the same time feared what the future might look like if they were to romantically partner with an older man. Yet, they still formed these really meaningful relationships with older men (friends with benefits and otherwise).
Also, gay and bisexual men have by far the highest rate of open relationships with any group, and in this case, that went hand in hand with forming meaningful non-romantic relationships with adults much older or younger.
Daddies of a Different Kind: Sex and Romance Between Older and Younger Adult Gay Men is out now.
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FreddieW
Money, money, money. So call me cynical.
dbmcvey
The Republican mantra.
abfab
Or Biblical.
bachy
Who is the guy being interviewed in the “Daddy Training” video? Odd that he’s not introduced to the viewer…
abfab
Authenitc Intelligence?
dali
Bachy, you need to actually go on the YT video to read that the guy’s name is Eric Rutherford.
Sometimes, one need to look farther than the tip of their nose.
Eric
My Grindr is FULL of guys who wouldn’t speak to anyone over 30. And yes, Daddy = butch. No one wants an old queen.
DrJones
Yes I learned the term “oldies” on Grindr and some of those Gen Z babies use that for anyone over 25??!!
Fahd
Does this mean that all the older single gay men I see everywhere are just not trying hard enough? Or maybe all of their potential partners are being intercepted by the young gays interested in older men.
bachy
Serious question: If gay guys who embrace their masculinity become “Daddies” in their 50s, what do gay guys who reject masculinity become?
Drag queens? Transgenders?
Is this our future? Satirizing masculine/feminine roles as we age by becoming either bearded macho men or ersatz glamour queens?
Something about this picture seems “off” to me…
Rikki Roze
Thank you, bachy. Your questions represent the views of a lot of middle aged and older gay men. And most of us would, I think, agree with your view that something seems “off” with this analysis.
Matt in SD
As a 50 year old gay, I think you’re overthinking it. People use labels to the extent that they always have. Some people have embraced them and others rejected them my whole life, all the while talking about it like labels are something new. Some guys are more “masc”, some are more “fem”, some differ from moment to moment. As for myself, I don’t worry about it. If I wanna wear the beat up old cap I got at an auto parts store years ago, I do. If I wanna paint my nails, I do. If there’s any definition of a “real man,” I think it’s not caring about bs like that. Just be yourself and those that like you will be drawn to you.
inbama
As most gays learn to butch it up or camp it up depending on the company, gender for us is to a large degree a performance. So no, most gay men are not either drag queens or porn stars.
Niche marketing, however, is how websites sell advertising space, and that’s why you see so much of the two extremes on gay media.
Overexposure to these polar opposites online (as opposed to previous generations who met people socially) may be partly to blame for Gen Z’s imagining they are “nonbinary.”
abfab
And this one ^ imagines that he’s Gay.
bachy
abbie: do you have to try to turn every discussion into a RH bitchslapping contest?
abfab
Not every. And what’s an RH?
bachy
Real Housewives bitchslapping contest!
DrJones
I think it’s more just that guys over 50 are automatically seen as masc by the younger crowd, not that they have to “lean in” to masc or camp.
Diplomat
Abs is a bitchy housewife, a perfect fit.
bachy
@inbama:
“Overexposure to these polar opposites online (as opposed to previous generations who met people socially) may be partly to blame for Gen Z’s imagining they are “nonbinary.””
I agree completely. Hypermasculine and hyperfeminine media stars are so amplified via photo-manipulation, cosmetic surgery, lighting, styling and repetitive overexposure that they cause the immature viewer to feel intensely inadequate, ferociously envious or inappropriately worshipful. Instead of developing independent individual personalities, young people are recapitulating the role of temple priestesses and eunuchs, worshipping avatar-like manifestations of ersatz deities in bodily form on earth.
whitenoiz
Annnnd, the anti-trans crows hijacks a thread about “daddies”…
KellyRobinsonJr
I find it amusing when someone in their thirties refers to themselves as a ‘daddy.’ In my view, the term ‘daddy’ carries a certain seasoned charm, and I associate it more with individuals who are 50 years and older.
abfab
Hello Mr Jake Myers,
The Queens have questions. Deep, deep questions. Your piece is driving them MAD!
abfab
hung09uc
I’m 61. I’m attracted to younger men. The first time I was called a daddy was in my early 50’s. I was devastated. I thought do I really look that old? Yes some younger guys may be in it for the money. That’s fairly easy for me to figure out. As far this daddy goes I just tell them, if you’re looking for a sugar daddy this one has no sugar. Most of the ones I connect with generally seek out older men. It’s their preference. I’m still amazed that a guy as early as in his twenties would want me. I keep in shape. I look after myself and I don’t normally have to seek out these guys, they seek out me. Everybody’s experience may be different however this mine.
Dr Bob
If your screen name is an indication, the younger guys seeking you out also want 9” uncut.
inbama
@Dr Bob
And that’s why God invented little blue pills.
Kangol2
I get wanting older men. When I was in my 20s I was attracted to men my age all the way up to men in their 50s. In other words, I was attracted to men.. Age was not a huge issue. There are young guys like that out there. (I also found men older than 50 attractive but most were partnered up or not interested.)
mikhailmaui
When I was 50, I met a guy who was 25. There was an instant attraction on both sides. I work for a living, so it was certainly not based on money. We dated for eight years (long distance no less), and today we have an incredible friendship. Not only do we have a great friendship, but his mother and my mother, are now good friends. And a little note to inbama.. I am now 64 and believe me, no little blue pill needed. I had a 21-year-old hit me up about a year ago, and every time he returns home from college, I am the first one he calls. I ask him why he was interested in someone so much older than he, and he said it was because I turned him on. So no, not all younger/older relationships are based on money.
Joshooeerr
Call me cynical, but there’s no indication here of the size of this researcher’s sample, or the methodology. Just an emphasis on it being “qualitative” research, which often just means supposedly “in depth” interviews on a small sample. So if you’re an older guy reading this and thinking “hmmm, doesn’t seem hugely reflective of the world I live in”, then you’re probably right.
abfab
Dear Cynical,
Please read up on how articles you now read on a daily basis are created with AI software. ”Qualitative research”!?! Are you kidding?!
Catch up.
DrJones
It clearly says 39 older men interviewed with 26 younger men, in qualitative research (generally research in the social sciences is qualitative, with interviews, and often the sample size is small) so not sure what your point is…
abfab
Okay…..I hear a song coming on kids! Sung by the one and only JEAN KNIGHT. (stream it and DANCE!)
Oh, yeah
Ooh
Mr. Big Stuff
Who do you think you are
Mr. Big Stuff
You’re never gonna get my love
Now because you wear all those fancy clothes (oh yeah)
And have a big fine car, oh yes, you do now
Do you think I can afford to give you my love (oh yeah)
You think you’re higher than every star above
Mr. Big Stuff
Who do you think you are
Mr. Big Stuff
You’re never gonna get my love
Now I know all the girls I’ve seen you with
I know you broke their hearts one after another now, bit by bit
You made ’em cry, many poor girls cry
When they try to keep you happy, they just try to keep you satisfied
Mr. Big Stuff, tell me, tell me
Who do you think you are
Mr. Big Stuff
You’re never gonna get my love
I’d rather give my love to a poor guy that has a love that’s true (oh yeah)
Than to be fooled around and get hurt by you
‘Cause when I give my love, I want love in return (oh yeah)
Now I know this is a lesson Mr. Big Stuff you haven’t learned
Mr. Big Stuff, tell me
Who do you think you are
Mr. Big Stuff
You’re never gonna get my love
Mr. Big Stuff
You’re never gonna break my heart
Mr. Big Stuff
You’re never gonna make me cry
Mr. Big Stuff, tell me
Just who do you think you are
Mr. Big Stuff
You’re never gonna get my love
Mr. Big Stuff
You’re never gonna break my heart
Mr. Big Stuff
You’re never gonna make me cry
Mr. Big Stuff, tell me, tell me
Just who do you think you are
Mr. Big Stuff
You’re never gonna get my love
Songwriters: Carrol Washington / Ralph Williams / Joseph Broussard
still_onthemark
As Adam DeMarco said in the White Lotus, “It’s undignified” for men over 50 to have sex.
Still fun, but undignified!
abfab
When do we land in Thailand?
Kangol2
Are you kidding? Girl, get thee to a nunnery!
Man About Town
I wonder what the results would be if Mr. Silva asked the participants how they felt about Mr. Myers calling all of them “queer.”
Kangol2
Which you ask on a site called…QUEERTY! The irony is so thick you could cut it, you know!
LumpyPillows
Well, this would not be my experience, but if it is a trend, speed it the f up.
Kangol2
When I was in my early 20s, several of my boyfriends were in their 40s, one 40 exactly and one about 43 or so. The first was gentle, patient, and also accomplished in his field, while the second was more of a sexual fling. Both were incredible lovers, and also cautioned me to be very careful about HIV/AIDS. Most of the older men I knew were far better at sex than guys my age. I realized I was a bit too immature for these older guys, though, and found someone closer to me in age, and that worked out very well. But I totally get falling for older men, and these periodically encounter younger men who flirt. I always try to direct them to single friends who’re interested in younger guys.
draperdude1
While this article sheds an interesting light on daddy/son relationships, I see another interesting angle. Being in a relationship where I am 18 years older than my husband, we did not discuss age for quite some time and he did not know how old I was when we started dating 15 years ago. My husband assumed I was 10 years younger than I was.. As I look around at other relationships with older and younger partners, I feel like some younger men want to fast forward to a lifestyle that is stable and predictable. When you’re dating, someone older, they may appear to be more settled and there is an appeal to that.
rocpitbull
Daddies can be in their 50s, or they can be 70s!!
myloginname
I’m probably ageist.
I’ve never been into guys younger than me.
Consider This
One change I’ve noted – much more than an age listing, there is the demand for a picture before all else. Social media accounts very often have NPNC (no picture, no chat) front and center. Appears guys just make their own call on age from the pix.
QJ201
as an out gay teenager in the 80’s daddies weren’t an option, many were dying of AIDS and many of us younger ones avoided older men (not that this guaranteed ANY protection from HIV)