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Mexico's Cardinal Rivera

“It is necessary to constitutionally defend the family”

SOUNDBITES — “This perverse example cannot spread. It is necessary to constitutionally defend the family. [The gay marriage law] is unjust, inadmissible and condemnable.” —Mexico City’s Cardinal Norberto Rivera, at a final 2009 Sunday sermon, calling on parishioners to battle back against The Gays getting married (via)

On:           Jan 2, 2010
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    • terrwill

      Pheww! I thought the bestest Gay year ever was already ruined!!, you know a year where we didn’t hear about losing rights to get married, or having those rights prohibited by new legislation, or having a scumbag from a church full of kiddie diddlers once again have the brass balls to condenm ANYTHING Gay. Then I saw this was said LAST year. We are STILL having the best Gay year ever!! : P

      Jan 2, 2010 at 2:42 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Brian Miller

      It is necessary to defend the *children* — from the Catholic Church, which is the largest child rape ring in the world. Let’s amend the constitution to ban it and keep our kids safe.

      Jan 2, 2010 at 6:12 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Taylor Siluwé

      I was wondering when Warren’s minions would get Mexico City’s clergy all a-twitter. That didn’t take long at all. Because we all know the greatest problem Mexico faces is gay couples forming perfect unions. How would that make all the philandering hetero husbands look?

      I wonder if the Cardinal spends much time blasting the murderous drug cartels?

      Jan 2, 2010 at 7:12 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • B

      No. 3 · Taylor Siluwé wrote, “I wonder if the Cardinal spends much time blasting the murderous drug cartels?”

      Why should he (if the people running the cartels are devout Catholics making large contributions to the church)? Read
      http://everything2.com/title/John+Gotti which points out that Mafia don John Gotti made lots of contributions to churches in
      his neighborhood. The Roman Catholic Church didn’t want to give him a proper funeral, but then, people 6 feet under generally don’t contribute anything financially. Couldn’t find anything about them refunding whatever he donated. :-)

      Jan 2, 2010 at 10:22 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • rudy

      As I have friends and relatives who are still believers and think this organization can be “reformed,” it pains me to have to conclude that it is hopeless. This organization is utterly sick and dishonest and belongs in the dustbin of history.

      Jan 3, 2010 at 2:58 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • AxelDC

      If marriage is such an inherently weak institution, is it really worth preserving?

      Jan 3, 2010 at 8:31 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • schlukitz

      No. 5 · AxelDC

      If marriage is such an inherently weak institution, is it really worth preserving?

      That’s a great question which deserves an equally great answer.

      Jan 3, 2010 at 5:32 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • terrwill

      No. 7 · schlukitz: Of course preserving “traditional marriage” is WORTH preserving. It is the greatest fund raising tool the frightwing lunatics,the churches, and Maggot Gallagher have in their aresnal to date. Utter the words “we need help to support the defense of traditional marriage” and the funds come pouring in like a winning slot machine in Vegas…………

      Jan 3, 2010 at 8:23 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Steve

      Cardinal Rivera does not seem to have read his own book. It says something like, “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.” There are variants of that sentence, depending on which translation you are reading, but they all say essentially the same thing.

      Harming other peoples families does absolutely nothing to help or defend your own. If you want to defend or strengthen “the family” as an abstract institution, you have to defend and strengthen all families. Attacking some families actually weakens the institution.

      Jan 5, 2010 at 7:41 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Taylor Siluwé

      @ no. 9 – Steve


      I don’t think anyone could argue with that logic. But then again, the people we’re talking about flushed logical thought when they accepted certain ancient things as the verbatim word of God.

      But your reasoning might even cut through that dense, stupefying fog around their minds.

      Jan 5, 2010 at 12:29 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • schlukitz

      No. 9 · Steve

      Well said! Their logic is akin to killing you to cure you of cancer.

      Jan 5, 2010 at 2:12 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·

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