Barack Obama and John McCain are neck-and-neck in daily tracking polls, which means the campaigns are looking to secure every last vote.
We’re not sure how – of if – McCain’s dealing with the gays, but Obama’s campaign sure as shit wants to lavender set to cast their ballot for Barack.
The Democrat’s out campaign manager Steve Hildebrand this week asked the LGBT caucus to use their power wisely. Because, in some ways, he has not.
I believe that our campaign has not done the effective job it needs to do to persuade and convince LGBT voters that Barack Obama is someone who will lead for them, who will fight for them, fight for us. That’s a failure on behalf of our campaign in my opinion, and I’ve played a role in it.
What we need is for all of you to be our voices in our communities and to work tirelessly to give every single day, as much time as you can give, to know Barack’s record and to know John McCain’s failed record and to go out and talk to people who care about the future of LGBT people in this country.
Well, you heard the man…
Rick Heintz
I will vote for Obama but it sure would be nice if he was open minded enough to admit marriage is not exclusive to people who fall in love with members of the opposite sex.
I’m just sayin!
Bob R
I intend to help in any way I can, with my vote and with my checkbook.
Obama/Biden ’08
seitan-on-a-stick
I live in a solid Democratic State but divided between the two black candidates; Obama, Dems and McKinney, Green Party which does have a more progressive platform. I need more courting…with flowers and Civil Unions!
mark
OBAMA/ BIDEN = I HAVE A DREAM tonight
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-8/1210139/nightmare.jpg
MCCAIN’S first night with Bush and Cheney and possibility of New Orleans being hit with a hurricaine = I HAVE A NIGHTMARE
Jason
National polls do not matter in the presidential election. Don’t believe the hype.
Landon Bryce
If he wants more support from the gays, he neess to get his candidate to offer an actual apology for putting Donnie McClurkin on stage. It is very clear that he does not understand the damage done by the ex-gay movement, especially in the African-Ameican community he was courting, and that he does not take seriously the level he offense he gave or the extent to which he poisoned his relationship with the gays by giving no sign that he understood how badly he screwed up.
Obama maintains his record of never having appeared at a Pride event. He has yet to answer tough questions from gay questioners. He is getting a much higher level of support from gays than his record merits, largely because we recognize that there is simply no comparison between he and McCain.
But, again, gays need to put our money and our campaign energy into the marriage battles, not just in California, and to the Victory Fund. Giving the Obama campaign more than your vote at this point is saying that the crumbs we have been given are adequate. Nothing could be further from the case.
gerry
I will vote for Obama in November, but he isn’t getting any of my money until he retracts his “marriage is between a man and a woman” statement AND until he REALLY apologizes for the McClurkin fiasco.
rayrayj
Obama is far from perfect. However given the nightmarish possibilities that McBush offers (A promise to nominate Suprme Court Jusctices like Sclia and Alito!), I am not willing to risk whitholding my financial support on the off chance that the little I have to offer could be the little that would have made a difference.
Landon Bryce
RayRayj:
That makes sense, sort of, if you don’t think about the much larger difference the same amount of money would make to a gay candidate in a smaller race. If the Democrats do not see a huge drop in gay contributions after the shit they are pulling across the board on gay issues, they will have no reason to change tactics. Obviously, money is the only reason they pretend to care about us. Cut it off. Make it clear they need to do more for us to deserve it. Use it to get gay candidates in office and to do the work in fighting state marriage attacks that the DNC has steadfastly refused to do.
A dollar for Obama is almost as much of a betrayal of the gay community as a vote for McCain.
CHURCHILL-Y
Yes Steve Hildebrand I’ll work tirelessly for a man who thinks of me as a second class American!
Obama will fight and stand up for our rights just like he has done so far.
rayrayj
Landon Bryce
I agree with much of what you say. I live in the rural south so my options for funding local or regional candidates is very limited. I wrote to the DNC months ago and pledged to give the DNC no more money. I will however donate money directly to the Obama campaign. Again, my motivation is purely out of fear that McCain will be able to implement policies which do not merely impede our progress but which will reverse the tremendous progress we’ve made since I came out in the 70’s
Bill Perdue
WTF for? It’d be the same as donating to McCain. Obama doesn’t give a rats ass about us so why should we support him?
Same Sex Marriage – Obama is a pigheaded opponent of SSM. Substituting second class civil unions for the real thing says that we don’t deserve the rights everyone else has. Saying that SSM is a states rights question is exactly and precisely the same as when George Wallace and Jesse Helms said that voting rights were a states rights question. States Rights is a crock whether it’s advocated by Jefferson Davis or Barak Obama.
Homophobia – The CoS of the DNC, Leah Daughtry, is an ordained pentecostal bigot who also opposes SSM. (Just like Jimmy Swaggart.) Obama refuses to fire her. Your money is paying for the DNC’s legal defense on charges of anti-GLBT discrimination and you money will pay for the huge settlement when she loses in court.)
Hate Crimes Legislation. – Obama claims to support it. But unless he’s lying why did he and the congressional Democrats toss it in the garbage? He clammed up when that happened, refusing to comment but nothing in the world can stop him from spewing his hateful remarks that we have no right to be married. He just won’t shut up about it. He’ll do nothing to jeopardize the fruits of his long history of pandering to christian bigots.
DADT – Obama supports repeal solely because he’s going to continue the war and wants cannon fodder.
ENDA – Obama claims to support ENDA but didn’t bat an eye when Kennedy, Frank and their Republican boosters hacked away at it until even the bigoted business owners and managers of the Chamber of Commerce gave it thumbs up.
HIV – Obama opposes socialized medicine and instead supports the same failed plan of the HMO/Insurance/Big Pharma fatcats. Naturally he also opposes stifling the religious (superstitious) cults that encourage the spread of HIV.
Adoption Rights – Obama says he supports the right to adopt but he insists over and over and over again on continuing our second class status by opposing our right to marry.
The Judiciary – This is a non issue. All judges are reactionary. Only when we push them, hard, will we get results like the Lawrence decision that ended the sodomy witch-hunt’s by the US Supremes and the pro-SSM decisions of the California and Massachusetts Supremes. All three Supreme Courts have Republican majorities.
DOMAs – Obama claims to oppose the law Clinton campaigned for and boasted about signing on paid elections ads (your money paid for them). The Congressional Democrats then voted overwhelmingly for DOMA and refuse to repeal it. Obama mimics racists like George Wallace by saying SSM is a states rights question. States rights, whether advocated by Jefferson Davis or Barak Obama is a crock.
McCain is also a pigheaded opponent of SSM and just as homophobic as Daughtry, etc. He also opposes hate crimes legislation, backs DADT. He’s dead wrong about HIV, DOMASs and adoption rights. He greatly admires what Quisling Barney Frank did to ENDA and is do grateful that he’s more than willing to lend Frank a hatchet so he can hack away at our agenda some more. He’s also a racist pig.
Neither of these two posturing fakers is worth a plug nickel. Don’t waste your time, money or vote on either of them. Vote for the US Labor Party if it makes it past the roadblocks the Democrats set up. If not vote for socialist or communist candidates as a protest or join the scores of millions who sit it out because they’re smart enough to know that a lesser evil is a lesser evil.
CHURCHILL-Y
Well Obamatons cherish the Messiah’s indirect shenanigans directed at us because if he ever enters the Oval Office as an acting President we wont even get these diminutive bones thrown at us. The term cold-shoulder will take a new meaning when it comes to us from him.
Landon Bryce
Um, Bill–
Most of the people who argued that there was no appreciable difference between Bush and Gore in the 2000 election realize
that they are responsible for the Iraq war and are too embarrassed to haul out the same round of bullshit this time. We would never have gone to Iraq with Gore in the White House, and he would have been elected if not for the idiots who voted for Nadar because they believed the lie that Bush and Gore were the same. Stop helping the Republicans to kill people, please.
Tim
I’m holding my nose and voting for Obama ONLY because I’m worried about supreme court appointments. I’ll not send any money until there is an apology for the Donnie McClurkin stage-show where he trumpeted the ex-gay movement. And Obama’s statements about ‘one man, one woman’ make me want to vomit. Not too many years ago, his OWN marriage would have been illegal in most states.
In short, Obama IS a bigot, but he’s the lesser of the two bigots in the false choice presented to us.
emb
Obama’s marriage would have been illegal? Cuz he’s half-white? I doubt it–to the southern jimcrowists, half-white is half-black which is black enough to count (they had a special category for discriminating against the 1/8th black, for chrissakes). Now, his PARENTS’ marriage, yeah, that’d be a no-go throughout the biblebelt. And yes, he’s bad on marriage, but if he came out and trumpeted his support of the homos he’d get our vote–and lose the election, cuz America’s just not there yet. I for one would prefer the less imperfect candidate.
And as for those here who think there’s no difference between Obama and mccain because Obama fails the magic words test on your issue du jour, I honestly don’t think I’ve ever seen anything more willfully ignorant of the facts, or more blindly self-destructive. You think the nation, the world, and us GLBTs would be better off with mccain’s bunch in control? Or there’d be no difference between our lives under mccain or Obama? Like we were better off under bush II than the imperfect Clinton? And like it or not, there is no viable third party, and my fifty bucks is not going to make ralph nader president–not because of a 2-party conspiracy, but because no one wants him to be president.
I’m so done trying to argue with you folks. Rail away to your hearts’ content, I’ll stick to reading the sensible posts.
todd
I will wear my butt plug and vote for Obama – it’s ALL about the Supreme Joke Court.
Nickadoo
Maybe Barrack can place an ad on Adam4Adam.com. Oh, wait, he’s already done that.
http://tinyurl.com/6d9dar
M Shane
Strangely, and not too briliantly, the issues that have come to dominate gay politics are presisely the issues put on the table by gay ultra conservatives: marriage and the military. These signal the desire of gays to enter into the traditional structures of our society: they are profoundly conservative and are a betrayal of the gay cause since Stonewall. What the fuck are people thinking: take off your tin hats and think
mark
LGBTs we REALLY need to focus on our REAL ENEMIES, it’s not Democrats funding EVERY anti gay innitiative against MARRIAGE, ADOPTION, and ENDA, and it sure as f*ck ain’t Obama/Biden funding this garbage.
focus!
Bill Perdue
Landon, give us a break. Um, if you going to lie at least try to be convincing. The only thing worse than a liar is, um, a boring liar.
The genocide in Iraq was begun in the Clinton administration by his embargo on food and medicines that murdered hundreds of thousands of Iraqi children. Clinton, Gore and the rest of them used the same tired lies about WMDs and an Al Qaida connection that Bush/Cheney/Rice copied after 9-11.
The genocidal war against Iraq is about oil and nothing else. Gore would have followed exactly the same path. The terrorist barbarity of 9-11 stemmed directly from the Clinton/Gore policy of funding the brutal apartheid inflicted on the Palestinians. Bush copied that too.
Why do you deliberatly block out that history? Why do you deny Clintons and Bush’s bipartisan holocaust? If it’s for partisan reasons then that’s pretty sleazy. Right, now I get it. You’re a Democrat, so partisan excuses for mass murder are par for the course.
Wake up and smell the napalm Landon. Gore would have done exactly what Bush did with a bit less bombast. Lack of bombast is not a reason to vote for a party of war like Obama’s or McCain’s or for one of the two parties that panders to bigots and fiddles while the economy crashes and burns.
Democrats kill people (well over a million in Nam and several hundred thousand children in Iraq) and so do Republicans (hundreds of thousands in Cambodia and Laos, fifteen thousand or so in Panama, and at least that many in Afghanistan).
Those figures will go up no matter who wins November 4th. It’s wrong headed to waste your time, money or votes on either of them. We need to build political alternatives. On November 4th vote for the US Labor Party (if it makes it past the roadblocks the Democrats set up). If not vote for socialist or communist candidates as a protest or join the scores of millions who sit it out because they’re smart enough to know that a lesser evil is a lesser evil.
Everybody is invited to join the antiwar movement.
If you’re a vet or in the military contact Iraq
Veterans Against the War at www dot ivaw dot org.
If you’re on campus contact the Campus Antiwar Network at www dot campusantiwar dot net.
If you’re in a union contact US Labor Against the War at www uslaboragainstwar org.
And for everyone contact the National Assembly to end the Iraq and Afghanistan Invasions and Occupations (whew) at http://natassembly.org/.
But what ever you do don’t vote for McCain or Obama – they both admit that they’ll extend the war. Obama wants to attack Pakistan, risking nuclear retaliation and McCain wants a genocidal nuclear strike against Iran.
Landon Bryce
Bill,
You do the anti-war movement no good by making its members look like deranged crackpots. If you think you are accomplishing anything else, you are mistaken.
Mr C
Wait girls,
All this Obama apology shit. Ok, if that be the case then fine he can apologize for Donnie and then let Queen Mother Hillary and Father Bill apologize for DADT.
That is far more worse than Mary Mary and Donnie McClurkin!
Bill Perdue
Mark, like Landon, is another Democrat who’ll have to take a crash course in “Effective Dissimulation’. Mark likes to pretend that it was the Republicans who ripped ENDA to shreds so that even the Chamber of Commerce, those motherless rats who represent bigoted business owners, gave it a thumbs up. The Republicans enjoyed the flaying but it was Quislings like Barney rank that did the cutting for the Democrats.
Democrats are totally opposed to same sex marriage for bigoted reasons, just like their Republican partners in crime. And Obama won’t ever shut up about it because it’s a good selling point with christer bigots. He’s got their vote for now, 43# to 34% for McCain and if they elect him they’ll own him. Actually they already do. What else explains why he erased our names from his platform? In his penthouse office in the Springs James Dobson is rubbing his paws together and smirking – now he has two parties to play with.
As for funding Mark must have been in a coma when it was revealed that the DNC, whose chief of staff is the ordained bigot Leah Daughtry, used Democratic Party funds to promote homophobia, superstition in schools and anti-choice activities. Or maybe he has extremely selective memory like Landon’s.
If you contributed to Democrats that’s where your money went. And it’s going to defend the DNC who’re being sued for anti-GLBT employment discrimination. The DNC already offered $100,000 of your money to settle, but it’ll end costing a lot more than that. Plus they’ll have to pay legal fees. Don’t waste you $50.00 on that EMB.
With Democrats like this who needs Republicans?
Landon Bryce
Mr. C:
What Hillary did, would, or might have done is completely irrelevant. She’s out of the picture. Has been for months. If you think I would be telling people to donate proudly to Hillary’s campaign, you are mistaken.
Obama’s folks are pushing for more gay support but refusing to deal with the blunders on their parts that have made it impossible for me, and many other gays, to trust them. Either he really doesn’t get it or he really doesn’t care. He’s the best choice for us, undoubtedly the most gay-affirming presidential candidate in history. He is still embarrassingly backwards on our issues and is very much a part of the current Democratic strategy of further marginalizing us to win the votes of bigots. It’s an immoral strategy, and it’s immoral to ask gays to fund it.
KE
OBAMA to LGBTs: I think your lifestyle goes against my religion and your unions are not worthy of the same recognition and protections but i’m an open minded dope so give me money!
Bill Perdue
Landon, if you don’t have the facts don’t enter the discussion. Prove what I said was not an accurate account of the Clinton/Gore Bush/Cheney genocide against Iraq. Prove that it’s not a war to steal their oil. Prove that it’s not genocide, just like Democrat LBJ’s genocide.
If you can’t, and it looks like you’ve failed miserably once again, then your silly mudslinging won’t help.
Landon Bryce
Bill:
How on earth can you blame Clinton for Iraq and call Vietnam LBJ’s war rather than Kennedy’s? Kennedy started the Vietnam police action.
It is a war for oil.
It is unimaginable to me, however, that Gore would have reversed course on the Clinton policies to bring us into war against Iraq. What in Gore’s record- other than the fact that he is a Democrat- makes you think he would have reversed course on the Clinton policies of working with the United Nations? Where have you seen him deliberately manipulating intelligence in order to bring the United States into war? Do you think he would have thrown out the current research done in Clinton’s administration and replaced it with assumptions based on what was true when Bush 1 left office?
Please look up the word “genocide” before you start throwing it around to describe any unjust military action.
mark
All these “supposed queers” whining about Obama isn’t enough for you,
watch the RNC convention…tell me every delegate you see waving a rainbow flag, tell me what openly lesbian entertains.
tell me when Cindy McCain goes and speaks to LGBTs.
Bill Perdue
Landon plaintively wonders “How on earth can you blame Clinton for Iraq” in spite of the fact that it’s thoroughly documented and accepted by every one but him. For our part, the rest of wonder how long his obstinate partisanship will let deny the US sponsored genocide against the Iraqi people which began because a Democrat, Bill Clinton.
Landon, wake up and look at the facts about what happens when half a million children becoming a bargaining chip in the war for oil hegemony. Scientists at the University of London’s School of Tropical Medicine and Hygiene claim that over a million Iraqis, most of them children, died as a result of Clinton’s terrorist denial of food and medical supplies.
What Clinton did – starving children to steal oil – was no different than the mass terror bombing of Vietnamese civilians ordered by LBJ and Nixon, two other US presidents directly and solely (except for Calley, McCain a few others) for mass murder.
UNICEF (www dot casi dot org dot uk) thinks that about 500,000 child deaths occurred because of Clintons embargo of food and medicine. The sanctions resulted in murderous rates of malnutrition, lack of medical supplies, and diseases from lack of clean water (even chlorine, a desperately needed water disinfectant, was on the list of embargoed medical supplies.)
War and politics shouldn’t lead to the slaughter of over half a million children, Landon, but they did and your blind partisan support for the Democrats won’t make that go away. On May 10, 1996, Madeleine Albright, Clintons’ UN apologist (aka, ambassador) went on the CBS program 60 Minutes and got the grilling of her life by Leslie Stahl, who didn’t even pretend to approve of infantile.
Leslie Stahl: “We have heard that a half million children have died (as a result of sanctions against Iraq). I mean, that is more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?”
Madeleine Albright: “I think this is a very hard choice, but the price, we think the price is worth it.â€
Still in denial mode Landon? That’s what I expected from you. A lot of Germans refuse to remember Hitler and a lot of Dixiecrats and other unreconstructed Southerners want to forget slavery and those 50,000 plus lynchings. You’re in good company Landon.
Oh, and one final thing, Landon, murdering over half a million children is not unjust military action, it is the classic definition of genocide, and of infanticide.
hells kitchen guy
Ladies and gentlemen: Bill Perdue resurfaces, with his political-theological tractati. If only the Internet could accommodate parchment scrolls.
Bloviator.
hells kitchen guy
What happened, bill? Get tired of holing up in the Yuuca Mount nuclear waste site?
Landon Bryce
Dear, dear, sweet Bill,
I did not ask how you could blame Clinton for Iraq. I asked how you could simultaneously blame Clinton and exonerate Kennedy, who was directly responsible for the war in Vietnam. It’s a very different question. You make the common, but factually insupportable error, of blaming Johnson but not blaming the guy who started the war and who elucidated the foreign policy that led to it. You compound that error by blaming Clinton, who does indeed carry some indirect blame for the Iraq war, but not blaming Kennedy for Vietnam.
Not all mass-murders are genocide. Genocide is a deliberate attempt to exterminate a racial, ethnic, or national group. The United States is guilty of genocide in its treatment of the indigenous peoples of North America, obviously. Equally obviously, it is a huge stretch to term to our actions in Iraq or Vietnam, despicable as they are, genocidal. They are selfish, reckless, murderous, wrong-headed, but we don’t care enough about these peoples to desire their extermination. We insist upon their unwilling assimilation, which is a crime, just a different one from genocide.
And, Bill, you may consider economic sanctions to be just as bad as war, but virtually no one else does. Clinton’s policy was awful. It did not cost thousands of young Americans their lives. I know you will claim that it did, but it is statements like that that make you seem insane. And Clinton’s policies did not result in making most of our allies hate us.
I disapproved of Clinton’s presidency so much that I was delighted when the inevitability of his win in my state gave me the luxury of voting for Nader in the 1996 election. I would never have been so self-indulgent if things had been close. I obviously identify with and share much of your anger. Why you hate me so much more than you hate the racists and Republicans is beyond me. But that is nothing compared to spreading the lie that Democrats– nasty, bigoted, warmongering, two-faced cheaters that they are– are indistinguishable from Republicans.
That’s truly insane.
Karl
What has Obama done in his career for gays and lesbians?
Tick Tock Tick Tock
David Agnew
Karl — for one thing, barely mentioning them at all in his speech tonight!
Chuck
I dunno. His speech just didn’t do it for me. Both Hillary and Bill made it a crystal clear point that they were for gay rights in their speeches. Obama made a begrudging line (on which he faltered) about allowing gays to visit loved ones in the hospital. What’s wrong with saying we deserve the same rights as anyone else in this country?
Is it the misogynist black culture? I dunno, too much talk of “families” and what kids deserve. Seems more exclusive than inclusive.
He has a long way to go.
Mr C
Chuck says: @#36:
Mr C
Lets do this again;
Chuck says: @#36:
Obviously you’re white looking through the glass ceiling of the WHITE
based MSM.
What fuck do you know about BLACK CULTURE?
And Bill and Hillary mentioning of Gays was only for a minutes as well. Lets see how many times Sarah, John, and the rest of your Repubicans friends mention anything GAY
The speech was appropriate and it was time he did so. So okay to the hypocrites it can be about minority but it can be about the first white woman??????
You have a long way to go too as well as our.GREAT SAME LOVING INCLUSIVE Gay community
malaise
Exactly! Bill paid lip service to gay rights and then completely caved. I am more concerned with McCain’s misogyny and thinly veiled homophobia than I am with Obama’s inability or perhaps refusal (I actually read it as a political inability rather than an ideological stance) to advocate for gay marriage.
Aren’t we past the point where we view political speeches as statements of anything other than parade of vague, floating generalities whose aim is to avoid alienating potential voters rather than informing potential voters? Political speeches have become virtually meaningless.
I think one question we should be asking ourselves is: “Which candidate is more likely to create the conditions likely to foster the sort of society in which I would like to live?” And then as follow up, perhaps: “WTF! On what grounds could one possibly argue that McCain is the better candidate for the GLBT community than Obama!?” Puhh-leeeze!
Landon Bryce
Malaise:
The claims that Obama is worse than Clinton on gay issues make on sense. The idea that McCain is not infinitely worse is laughable. That still leaves open the question, “Is Obama good enough on gay issues to merit financial support from our community?” I think the answer there is no.
seitan-on-a-stick
I’m a Democrat but this happened:
TWO WORDS: Sarah Palin!
Thankyou Senator Barack Obama for breaking the Glass Ceiling for African-Americans. Your efforts to court Gays will be the deperate move you will need to make. On your speech last night, I would have likely voted for you.
Unfortunately, we all got played by Bambi wearing designer glasses. Even Hillary could not have clip-clopped down that mountain to take the Presidency! Let’s be clear, McCain is the running mate now!
mccain/PALIN will win the Presidency in 2008!
Bill Perdue
Poor Baby! Landon – I don’t hate you, I just think you’re full of it. I described you as someone who thinks that killing children to grab oil is ok. That’s an entirely accurate description. You admitted as much. If that’s repulsive that’s your problem.
Cheer up, you have a new ally, Hells Kitchen Chickenshit Chickenhawk (not like guys with boy fever, but guys like Bush, who wants others to do his fighting while he gets high). Like you Hells Kitchen Chickenshit Chickenhawkwants as many muslims as possible killed.
Here he is in his prime.
Enjoy your new little friend.
Bill Perdue
When it comes to elections Democratic (sic) Party buffs are like those 9th graders visiting the Skool Kafeteria for the first time. They peer at the menu which features a choice between Korndoggies or Pizzasticks. Instead of puking or running they pinched their noses and chose between Slop A and Slop B. And, like all good little pawns, they donate good money to pay for their reeking Slop d’ jour.
The best way to influence the courts is not through elecitons but through mass action. If my count is correct seven of the nine US Supremes who ruled on ‘Lawrence’ and knocked down sodomy laws were appointed by Republicans. The court majorities in the California and Massachusetts same sex marriage rulings were Republican. Democratic (sic) judges are just as conservative as Republican judges because their only qualification is their utter devotion to protecting the property rights of the uberrich.
Election induced hysteria over the courts is a non-issue, a scare tactic and nothing else. We win in the courts and the legislatures only when we build mass sentiment for our agenda and direct our movement towards mass action to compel them to see it our way.
Chuck
Dear “Mr C”
Nice pimp name BTW, and nice language. I was for Hillary. Pardon me if I don’t give a hoot about black Americans and their “dream.” My family never owned slaves but I have had family members murdered by dark folks. Obama’s speech did not speak to me.
You are only 12% of the population and are on your way to total irrelevance. Your savior is a career climber with no experience. He has never had to fight for anything. He has been given breaks any white person would dream of. How does does that relate to your life? You must be an Affirmative Action token.
Loser.
Landon Bryce
Yeah, Bill. Those last two messages don’t seem crazy at all.
Anyone else still reading these comments? Care to chime in on who seems craziest- Bill, Seitan. or me?
Yes, Seitan. Sarah Palin is an unstoppable force of historical proportions. I tremble before her majesty and wonder at her might.
Jesus.
Landon Bryce
Oh, wow! Chuck’s message came in while I was writing mine. He might just be craziest of all!!!!!!!!!
malaise
Landon,
Obama’s tepid stance would seem a better option than McCain’s ambivalence, no? Wouldn’t failing to support Obama amount to failing to take a stand against the candidate that is, as you put it “infinitely worse” on issues of importance to gay communities?
M.
Brian Miller
I will happily cast a vote for Barack Obama, the minute he casts the following votes:
1) Cosponsoring MREA in the Senate;
2) Cosponsoring PPIA in the Senate;
3) Introducing legislation to repeal DOMA in the Senate.
My vote, of course, is earned.
You do the legwork, Barry, and I’ll reward you. Do nothing, and I’ll do the same.
Mr C
Chuck,
First of all is your Father, or Grandfather a PIMP? Dumb ass cocksucker. I’m not asking you to vote for Obama. Your RACIST faggot ass would’nt do that anyway and as for this: