The catfight between Vice President Mike Pence (and his homophobic wife, Karen/Mother) and out 2020 hopeful Pete Buttigieg continues.
Quick recap: It all started last Sunday when Buttigieg gave an inspiring speech at the Victory Fund’s LGBTQ brunch in Washington, D.C., where he said:
My marriage to Chasten has made me a better man and yes, Mr. Vice President, it has moved me closer to God. … If you have a problem with who I am, your problem is not with me. Your quarrel, sir, is with my creator.
Both Mike and Karen Pence responded to the remarks by accusing Buttigieg, who, like them, is a Christian, of attacking their faith and trying to stir up drama for attention.
Related: Karen Pence accused Pete Buttigieg of using her husband for attention. It didn’t go well for her.
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In an interview with CNBC, Pence said Buttigieg should “know better” than claimed they had “a great working relationship” when he was governor of Indiana, a sentiment Buttigieg doesn’t seem to share.
People will often be polite to you in person, while advancing policies that harm you and your family. You will be polite to them in turn, but you need not stand for such harms. Instead, you push back, honestly and emphatically. So it goes, in the public square.
— Pete Buttigieg (@PeteButtigieg) April 9, 2019
Well, yesterday, the 37-year-old mayor of South Bend, who has seen his poll numbers skyrocket in recent weeks, sat down with Ellen to talk about his squabble with the VP.
“I’m not critical of his faith,” Buttigieg told Ellen. “I’m critical of bad policies.”
He continued: “I don’t have a problem with religion. I’m religious, too. I have a problem with religion being used as a justification to harm people and especially in the LGBTQ community.”
Related: Mike Pence butthurt over Pete Buttigieg’s mean comments about him, says he should “know better”
“So many people, even today, feel like they don’t belong,” Buttigieg added. “You can get fired in so many parts of this country just for who you are. And that’s got to change.”
Buttigieg went on to say he’s really “not interested” in carrying on this catty back-and-forth with the butthurt vice president. He has much more important things to do. Like, say, running for president.
But, he said, “If he wanted to clear this up he could come out today and say he’s changed his mind, that it shouldn’t be legal to discriminate against anybody in this country for who they are.”
“That’s all.”
In other Buttigieg news: A new poll found he is now in third place among New Hampshire Democrats, just behind former Vice President Joe Biden and Senator Bernie Sanders.
The poll was conducted by the Saint Anselm College Survey Center and surveyed more than 600 New Hampshire residents, with more than 300 saying they plan on voting in the Democratic primary.
Political insiders have long identified the New Hampshire primary–one of the earliest in the nation–as vital to establishing momentum in the coming primary race.
Watch Pete’s full interview with Ellen below.
Related: Mayor Pete Buttigieg rises to 3rd in new poll among Democratic voters
youarederanged
True that. A legitimate critique and challenge. Curious to see how Pence responds to this.
Tony1129
Same here, I really like Pete, he impresses me more and more I listen to him.
stanhope
Who gives a flying fck how pence responds? To care is to empower…stand on what you know is truth (which is what Pete said) and to hell with the false prophets.
Geeker
I’m glad Pete stood up to that jerk because besides being a racist homophobe Pence is just plain creepy any man who refers to their wife as “Mother” is not to be trusted.
domen8r
I’m glad the candidate showed more sense and civil discussion than the Queerty editors/writers, who chose a sensationalistic clickbait headline wording, as well as a repeated juvenile adjective like “butthurt”, to try and demean VPOTUS. I am no fan of Pence, but logical and mature, objective and fact-based, talking points are the best offense against a POTUS who so often similarly sinks to that level of dismissiveness and namecalling.
DCguy
Except you are talking as if you are a fan of Pence. He is a rabid homophobe who was fine with tanking the economy of an entire state as long as he could harm LGBT people by doing it.
He has demeaned himself. Pointing that out does not make him a victim.
AgainNagain
domen8r, if you have read DCguy’s past and present comments, you should realize that it’s impossible to reason with an unreasonable person like DCguy, who doesn’t know anything about civility, decency, and maturity. He, like most extreme liberals, is angry and bitter and domineering. Any opinion deviating from their belief system, is heresy. He will attack you like a mad dog and a mad dog he is. In many ways, he behaves very much like a conservative nutjob. He is the new alt Left.
Diplomat-G
@AgainNagian,
Civility begins with both parties being civil, neither Pence nor his wife have ever been civil to anything that goes against their bronze aged gods. There was nothing in DCguys comments that came across as uncivil, there was however much in yours.
youarederanged
@Diplomat-G
I agree with you that civility begins with both parties, which neither party practices, but AgainNagain was not referring to that one specific comment by DCguy. He was referencing DCguy’s overall speech on Queerty. There is no defense for the Pence’s positions, and likewise there is no defense for DCguy’s pattern of rudeness, insults, and calls for Queerty to silence many people who disagree with him. But it is amazing that we live in a country where both Pence and DCguy have the right to spread their hate. Gotta love freedom.
domen8r
“Clapback” “snivelling” and “butthurt” are not “pointing out he has demeaned himself.” They are static in a much more important discussion which Buttigieg is handling much better than Pence, and lightyears better than Queerty. The way Queerty has implied attitude and direct quotes to a promising articulate candidate is what’s demeaning.
fur_hunter
You are correct when you are having a discussion, regarding civil individuals but there are some who you have to stoop to THEIR level and use the language they know so they will understand your opinions and points of view. Pence has made it perfectly clear his stand on the LGBT Community so when I talk about him, I use the same kind of inference he does to the Gay Community. He’s a F*ckTard @$$ hole so I refer to him as one. I think he is probably capable of understanding that.
stanhope
Let me make this simple so even a dimwit like you can comprehend….your highness, sit on a pickle and twirl gurl. .any fool knows you don’t serve high tea in a swamp full of gators…don’t believe me…ask your bio daddy…you’ll find him at the payless going out of business sale in the size 14 aisle.
Tishthedish
Referring to your wife as “MOTHER “ is way beyond Queer !
bonbon
“Sniveling”. You tell him Petey boy!
stanhope
There’s a bottom in that boy….hallelujah!
roth99
VP Pence is one of the most socially conservative members in the Trump WH. He and his wife are extreme homophobes. Mayor Pete is not out of line mentioning what VP Pence did as governor that was so hurtful and disrespectful to his statewide constituency. I think Mayor Pete has made a good argument for gays of faith and against the Pence very conservative homophobic Evangelical view of our community. Politicians and others for too long have allowed such homophobes the freedom to express their vile hatred against our community. It seems that will no longer be so easy to do with the number of LGBTs out in our communities.
Daggerman
…..people are scared and jealous and I cannot think of anything more disrespectful to yourself!!!!
If you are such a brainwashed nerd who likes the bible, you need to develop a spine and acknowledge history, not bury your head in the sand.
wizbang_fl
I don’t have a problem with the bible, I have a problem with how organized religion has interpreted the bible and magically added words that weren’t there before to promote values not taught in the bible. Perfect example, It talks about don’t put any god before me etc etc and gives examples of a religion that just that by claiming their high priest was their “god” and to have sexual relations with the high priest made their followers one with their god. the story goes on about this and then it talks about man not lay with man. Then it goes on to talk about another religion putting their leaders above god. Now the Bible is quite organized. Yet, organized religion claims that “man not lay down with man” is that it’s not ok to have homosexual sex. This is where the argument goes off the rails. I understand put no other above god, and since the high priest was male it was not ok to make piece with their religion and put another above god. Then goes into another example about not putting another above god. Also man laying down with man is also an old english way of making peace. (eg: laying down weapons, cease fire, treaty) But organized religion (especially born again movement, and catholic) are focused on seeing the text as they want to see it (and they can’t be wrong). LOL