
It’s been the best of time, it’s the worst of times. Dickens couldn’t have summed my life up any better. This is the tale of two lifestyles, if you dare. A roller coaster ride it’s truly been. Ive always been one to follow my heart and my feelings and lately I feel I’ve been call to do what it is I’m doing now. Coming out.
I’ve constantly pushed my friends and strangers who read my writings and social network posts to live truthfully, honestly, authentically, and with love and compassion and I feel the world needs a little bit more authenticity. I need it from myself. So this is me practicing what I preach. Hopefully the few pages of this post inspires someone to live a more authentic life as well, or at least not want to kill themselves for being different.
This moment has been 11 years in the making. Five of those years spent trying to gain an understanding of who I really was, and the other six spent growing into it. Now that I am 25 years old, I feel I have learned enough to finally express what had initially plagued me my entire adult life, but would turn out to be nothing more than a tremendous blessing.
I’ve been a lot of things and done a lot of things in my life. Brother, son, student, athlete, fraternity boy, writer, comedian, actor, and dare I say, I’ve done these things while remaining quite handsomely charming and humble. All most all of them make me extremely proud of who I am and what I have become. But most of my teen and adult life there was one thing that I wasn’t so proud of. In fact I spent many years painfully ashamed of it. That thing being the fact that I am bisexual.
From the time I began to develop a sexuality up until the age of about 20, my life felt like oil in a world made of water. The two don’t mix very well if at all. Couple that with the fact that the religion I was brought up in wasn’t very gay friendly, I felt like a prisoner in my own body. I felt like God had made a mistake. Because I knew I had not chosen the things I felt on the inside. I had always been attracted to girls but around the age of 14 I noticed things I had never felt before. I noticed that I was also attracted to other boys. I can say that now but at the time I didn’t really understand what it was. Being that homosexuality isn’t openly discussed in the black family home as easily as other communities and when it is, it’s not usually in a good way.
Being a young teen I was deathly afraid to mention my feelings to anyone, given the fact I was the basketball player who spent most of his time around other boys all the time. I didn’t want to make anyone uncomfortable nor did I want to face the possible rejection and ridicule that would come along with thinking you might be anything other than straight. I knew I couldn’t be gay because I knew I was attracted to girls sexually but I knew there was more to me than I could understand at the time.
For many years I lived in an internal hell, because I believed that’s where I would end up for feeling the way I felt. I tried suppressing my feelings or pretending they weren’t real or weren’t there and maybe I could pray them away. 10 years later, not the case. The first adult I ever confided in about my feelings was a pastor at a church retreat I went to when I was and I remember him telling me that I wasn’t gay or bisexual, but that it was because my father wasn’t in my life and it caused me to seek his love from other men. Not surprising that would be his response since he himself is a “reformed” gay who was cured by God. Well that made me feel good for about a week but I knew it wasn’t true. It was actually complete bull. But at 14 you don’t know that yet.
As I got older leading up toward college I became more fearful because I just wanted the feelings to go away so God would love me. Needless to say they didn’t. For the first two years of college I was at mental warfare with myself, to the point where it drove me away from church and God. I couldn’t imagine how God would make me this way and then reject me. I couldn’t listen to preachers tell me I was going to hell any longer for something I couldn’t control. Finally, around the time of my 20th birthday I said that I would no longer go against the grain of who I felt I was (at least internally and privately) because it was killing me inside. I finally accepted me for me. And for the first time in a long time I felt good. I felt really good. I had reached a point where I felt if God didn’t need me I didn’t need God.
My freshman year of college I met one half of my best friends, a beautiful girl by the name of Sacha. I didn’t know she was gay when I met her, I was just a college basketball player who wanted to be friends with hot girls. Though I waited until I graduated college to tell her I wish I hadn’t. It probably would have helped me a lot. She has been nothing but instrumental in the maintenance of my sanity for the past four years of our eight year friendship. I also met my second best friend Rosa through her as well and they have been nothing short of angels from heaven in my life.
After spending so many years in spiritual turmoil, even spending some time not believing in a God at all, I saw Michael Beckwith on Oprah. He was talking about God in a way I had never heard before. The God he talked about loved me. It was as if everything he was saying was being downloaded into my soul and my spirit had begun to awaken again. I found my way into a place that was more conducive to my spiritual growth.
I was still a little skeptical because in my 23 years of life to that point, I had never heard anyone talk about God, love, and homosexuality in the same sentence without mentioning hell or repentance. I had to know where he spoke or taught and Sacha had been going there for a while and took me to Agape. This was nothing short of divine intervention, the true nature of what “God” really is, calling me to where I belonged.
After leaving there it felt as if my soul had reawakened from an extended hibernation and that “God” didn’t hate me; hell, I can’t even say with 100% certainty that God even exists, just like you can’t, so why should I continue to torture myself? But something blessed me with an unbelievably compassionate spirit that I don’t think I would have, had I not been born this way. I think if more people could see the world through the eyes of any person or group of people who have ever been mistreated simply for being who they were born to be, we would live in a much more compassionate, loving, caring world. You would think the black community if any, would understand that more than any. They Don’t.
Do I believe the Bible and religion is doing just as much harm, if not more, than good to people and the world? At this point in time, absolutely. You have an entire group of people who alienate and persecute a minority group of people because of one Old Testament verse while casually ignoring all of the other “abominations” in that same book on a daily basis.
Listening to a woman I worked with who ultimately inspired me to write the book I wrote last year say such vile, hurtful, baseless, things about someone because they were gay hurt so much to hear, especially knowing they were her family member. What hurts the most is listening to someone say things like that and they not know they’re talking about you as well and you feel you can’t defend yourself directly and have to pretend to be taking a stand for “someone else”.
I was fortunate enough to be blessed for lack of a better term, with the ability to mask the homosexual side of me allowing me to avoid judgment from the outside world. But who are we to assume someone is straight or gay? There are so many kids and teens that aren’t lucky enough to walk around wearing a mask of heterosexuality and they are being teased and bullied on a daily basis to the point where they are killing themselves. I feel I have a responsibility to do something about it.
In September and October alone of last year, over 10 people as young as 12 committed suicide for being bullied for being gay and the saddest part is some of them weren’t even gay, they were perceived as being gay. These bullies don’t learn this stuff on their own. They learn it at home. And that’s not even taking into account the hundreds of kids beaten up every year and who drop out of school from fear of being bullied, then some of them have to go home and be bullied by family and parents.
Writing my book took me on such a deep journey into myself that I believe it was God’s way of truly opening me up to who and what I really am because I learned so much more about myself and the world. I was afraid to write it initially because I wondered, “well what if people ask am I gay” or if it forced me out of the closet. But I kept writing anyway. When I reached the end I knew I had done a great thing and that people needed to read what I had written. It helped me truly love myself for the first time in my life, and had I not done it, I probably wouldn’t be writing this.
After reading the stories of such brave young men and women who had been beaten or killed or suffered through brutal attacks, I felt it was time for me to step up to the plate. The heaviest stone I have carried my entire life is finally being put down as if Atlas was finally able to take the world down from his shoulders.
My sexuality has always been on a need to know basis and for the larger part of my life, since I’ve come to understand who I am, I learned that most people don’t or didn’t need to know. It just provides another reason to cast judgment. I’ve listened to the things some people in my family have said as it relates to the issue, so it didn’t really help with the coming out process. There have been times when I heard Christian family members say some pretty “un-Christian” things about gay people.
If I did want to marry a man, they don’t think I should be able to that’s for sure. They say once you find out there’s a gay, lesbian, or bisexual person in your family everything changes. But I’ve learned through research for my book that sometimes that change is for the worse. There have been times on holidays where I would want to just do there stereotypical thing and tell everyone. Part of me wouldn’t care what anyone thought but a part of me still would. This past Thanksgiving, listening to a lengthy dinner table conversation, it was very close to being that day.
You always curse the process while you’re going through it but you’re so thankful for it when you feel you’ve reached the lesson. My adolescence was no walk in the park but I made it. I figured out who I was and I’m very comfortable with it. The French author Anais Nin said, “And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom.”. That day has come for me and I can no longer remain bundled up. I’ve wanted to do this for a long time, I just didn’t know how.
Now I can truly say I’m in a place of spiritual liberation. I think it’s no coincidence that my name translates into “free love”. I’ve always lived my life in a loving care free manner and people have always tended to liked me, almost with little effort on my part. It wasn’t forced or strategically planned; it was just me being me. Loving people and living my life freely.
My favorite quote is by Voltaire, when he said “God is a comedian, playing to an audience too afraid to laugh”. The reason I love this quote so much is because it speaks volumes about the people in society. We’ve done nothing but label and separate each other throughout history and used God as reason or evidence for justification but what most people don’t realize is God has made it very simple while man has made it very complicated. People have used God to do all kinds of destructive and hurtful things to other people when the message is simple, love each other. But because religion and the Bible have been so terribly abused, people like me have to go through life feeling like our existence is a mistake. I just wish all the people who killed themselves before they got a chance to see the process through to the end had another chance.
I believe in a universal power and religion but it’s nothing like the traditional. It’s not based on any man written book or some collection of rules or guidelines. Because the “God” I know is love and that love is unconditional and my religion is just that, mine. It’s not based on a verse in the old testament in a book of laws to which no one today still follows any of, yet the only one of those laws people insist we still obey is the one that promotes exclusion and hate. I’m willing to assume you’ve eaten shrimp or lobster in your lifetime; worn clothing made of multiple fabrics, touched or eaten pork, or done at least one of the many things Leviticus calls an abomination and is punishable by death. Call me an Atheist with an asterisk if you want, but I’m not on board for many reasons.
But there’s a reason we don’t kill people as they walk out of red lobster or murder the NFL players as the leave the field on Sundays. It’s because we are modern individuals in modern times and the laws of the land shift with the time as knowledge is gained by the masses. I can assure you that you won’t find a single mention of Jesus Christ denouncing being gay in the New Testament. But you will find him teaching love, compassion, charity, peace, and many other positive equality based teachings.
It’s not until we decide to become educated beyond the Bible that we learn that homosexuality has occurred in nature as far back as recorded natural history. I firmly believe that the Bible was not meant to be taken literally it was meant to teach lessons and be taken seriously; otherwise I think we need to revisit my Red Lobster idea. If you believe with all your heart that God pretty much detests gays, can you prove to me he does? Can you prove to me that God even exists? Can you prove to me that the Bible is really the actual true word of God? No one alive today was there when it was first written. But the difference is faith. We believe because we choose to. Religion is a choice, being gay isn’t.
I’m sure when you were presented with Christianity at whatever point in your life if you’re Christian or whatever religion you may be, you didn’t ask for proof that everything they told you was true. You just believed it. It’s a matter of faith and why should gays and lesbians be excluded from society based on something no one has any real concrete proof of? By the way, the man who commissioned the bible to be made, you may know him as King James or read from a King James Version Bible; well he was also a gay man. Funny how it all works out right? So to teach your children that a group of people are bad or wrong is no different than what white people did to black people all throughout early American history. Why continue a cycle of hate when we can foster a culture of love and equality?
All Jesus ever talked about was love and peace for EVERYONE. Funny how most Christians miss that part. I think the true God, if you want to call it that, teaches living life based on love and equality not fear and exclusion. If given the choice today, I don’t think Jesus would even be Christian; the way people try to spread hate and discrimination in his name. Living your life based on the Bible is no different and just as much of a choice as me picking up a Harry Potter book and choosing to live by its contents.
If you truly believe that when God judges how you lived your life no matter how great it was and how many great things you did for people that he will say “well too bad you did it while being gay so I don’t care, it doesn’t count” then I feel sorry for anyone who believes that. All religions share a common thread, to use love in order to live the best life possible, and that there is a higher power that guides us along with a better place to get to.
I believe that the Christian based opinion about LGBT people speaks to the general arrogance of most Christians believing that it’s their way or the highway which is what turns many people off to the that particular religion. You could have been born anywhere else in the world and whatever the native religion is that what you would be, and would that make you wrong or hell bound? I don’t think so. I think more people should consider things of that nature before condemning everyone else. After all, when did asking for love and acceptance become so wrong? Shouldn’t that be easy for someone with Christian beliefs? Maybe in a perfect world.
I feel good that I’ve made it this far and done this much in my life. Sometimes I wonder how differently things would have turned out had I not kept being bisexual a secret. It’s a lot more complicated than just being gay. Because bisexuals live like unintentional double agents with one side always in the closet depending on whom you date. But I’m no different than anyone else really. Bisexuality doesn’t affect my driving habits, my vision, or when my bills are due. If external details of my life offer no incentive to come out, my inward life cries out for it. Most of us grow up presumed straight until “proven” gay, and it may take years to realize that neither label really fits who you discover you are.
A bisexual identity can be difficult to maintain because, unless I date both sexes at once people will use my current relationship to define my sexuality, and that isn’t something I want to be defined by. I want to be defined by me and the things I do and the type of person I am. To hear someone say you can’t be gay and masculine when I’ve done it for 25 years kind of makes that notion a bit false. Most people are hung up on the stereotypes about gay people that they forget they are actually real people who look and act many different ways. No one has ever looked at me and thought I was anything other than straight. Is that not proof enough?
It doesn’t make sense to have to come out all the time and everywhere. And contrary to popular belief about bisexual people, yes we do exist, no I don’t get a sexual smorgasbord, an open relationship, or a lavender Toyota Prius. I just get peace of mind. The comfort of resting in who I am and knowing that no matter what anyone says I have every right to be me. Quite frankly, what other people think of me is none of my business. I couldn’t have said that five or 10 years ago. Over the years I’ve come to learn that in light of my strengths and in spite of my weaknesses, I am doing a beautiful thing with my life and at this point I couldn’t be happier.
I was fortunate enough to not have to deal with being bullied for “looking gay” or for what people thought I was, not to mention many people don’t pick on someone 6’7 250 lbs either, so I can only empathize in that facet. But I can relate to the self hatred, nights spent crying wishing you were different, being terrified of someone finding out, asking repeatedly “Why me God?”, but as I got older I began to realize, why not me? I am a true minority in every since of the word, I’m black, 13% of the population, I’m 6’7, far from the average height of a human being, and I’m bisexual, which represents approximately 10% of the population. So I can assure you my life experiences are and have been quite unique.
If trying to out someone is considered bullying, then I might fit into that category, given the fact one of my college teammates somehow caught wind of my secret and tried to tell anyone who would listen. He didn’t care if they were on or off the team. He’s the kind of guy who would probably try to scratch the S off my SAG card and replace it with an F. Fortunately for me, my track record with women along with his lack of evidence wouldn’t allow anyone to believe him. I found out about this a few months after graduating college because no one came to me for verification. He Claimed to have a photo of me at a gay club, problem was at that point in time i have never been to one. Sucks for him.
The part that made me feel good though, in retrospect to finding out that people were told this behind my back, was given the fact that most of my team had been told I was gay, none of them treated me differently or acted weird around me, proof or no proof. Earlier this year after I came out to him, My closest friend on the team at the time who was also my roommate said that the reason he didn’t ask me was because he thought it was disrespectful to me and he loves me like a brother so it didn’t matter either way. That was both shocking and great to hear, because I don’t want people to love or accept me because they think I’m straight or gay. I want people to love me for me because it’s the right thing to do. For now that’s just wishful thinking and I remain the eternal optimist that I am.
In the book A Course in Miracles, it says, “The escape from darkness involves two stages: First, the recognition that darkness cannot hide. This step usually entails fear. Second, the recognition that there is nothing you want to hide even if you could. This step brings escape from fear. When you have become willing to hide nothing, you will not only be willing to enter communion but will also understand peace and joy. Holiness can never be hidden in darkness but you can deceive yourself about it. This deception makes you fearful because you realize in your heart it is deception and you exert enormous efforts to establish its reality.”
I spent many years of my teen and adult life trying to deceive myself and the world to try and establish the darkness as a reality in my life. At one point I thought I would take it to my grave, but as you get older and you mature and you meet people and you fall in love that becomes impossible. It’s when you become willing to hide nothing, that you truly enter into a communion with God, Spirit, The Universe, or whoever you praise, and truly understand peace and joy.
Michael Bernard Beckwith said, “We shall be the angels and agents of change in our society…honoring and respecting one another, calling forth the highest and best in each other. Unique configurations of infinite possibility…that together we shall continue to build a kind and just global society.” This has been the message that has lived inside of me my entire life, from birth, even before I recognized it. I have always been a kind, helpful, and compassionate person, my childhood forgiven. I go out of my way to help friends and strangers alike and sometimes I say things that help people tremendously and I don’t even know where it came from but I know it was right and what they needed to hear.
Through this process I have come to learn that the butterfly doesn’t contradict the caterpillar. The butterfly is the next stage of the caterpillar’s development after it has surrendered to its next level. And much like the caterpillar, I was resistant to that transformation but you can only resist for so long before nature/God pulls you, the caterpillar, the rest of the way. Because what the caterpillar and the butterfly want are two totally different things. The caterpillar is ok with walking around slowly, from place to place, living a somewhat mundane life eating leaves all day. But the butterfly wants to spread its wings and fly, showing off the silent beauty that has been created.
I’ve spent my life doing everything and getting everything I wanted never having to use anger or violence and I think that speaks volumes about who I am and the power that lies within me. I am a natural born agent of change, though it took some time to come to know that, and now I know the proper use for my life and my gifts, to heal people through my work be it comedy or acting or writing. We’re all here to leave our marks and heal the world, leaving it a better place than we found it. Unfortunately we all don’t wake up to that fact in this lifetime. I now know that it doesn’t matter if I am black, white, blue, green, straight, gay, bisexual, or a motorcycle, as long as I live my life according to the will of God/the universe as I understand it and it’s intention for me.
At this point, I am no longer concerned with acceptance. My life will be my life and I have to live it for me. I will not fight to change anyone’s beliefs; I merely offer up an alternative way of seeing things, something not traditionally done in the black community, seeing how religiously we’re set in very old ways. Believe for me what you want, wish for me what you will but I already know the great things that are in store for me. You don’t have to like who I am, you don’t have to love who I am, but regardless of how you feel, I’m going to be me. You can choose to stay a part of me life or if you disagree with who I am then don’t. I would much rather you be truthful about your feelings for me as a friend than to be fake. I’m four years from 30; I’m a big boy now I can take it.
I’m not telling anyone how to run their family, raise their children or what to teach is acceptable to them, but I know for a fact, my child will never be taught to hate or dislike anyone simply because of who they are or claim to be, or what some book tells them. Hate and separation has never solved anything in this world but love, unity, and equality has created the world as we know it today. I do know that when blacks were fighting for equal rights the Bible was used to defend not giving those rights and left up to the people to vote and decide, blacks still wouldn’t have rights today. But it took a brave man in President Lyndon Johnson to recognize that telling people they weren’t equal because they were born a different color was wrong and what was being done to black people was wrong and he signed the civil rights act on his own volition.
Today people like myself all over the world are in the middle of our very own civil rights movement fighting once again, against religion and the bible to be seen as societal equals and 50 years from now when history books tell the tale, those young people will read in disbelief that the same wrongs were perpetrated twice when the example was already laid forth on how to prevent it. A lot of people will find themselves on the wrong side of history. Ironically even after the civil rights movement only 50 years ago, the entire black community might find itself there as a whole.
Some may wonder why I chose today to do this, though I’ve been hard pressed to do so in the wake of all the bullying and suicides taking place. Well as funny and trivial as it may seem, I had been receiving a lot of “signs” if you will, pushing me to this point. So today when I received an email from WordPress for the “post a day 2011? challenge and todays topic was “write about something you’ve never told anyone and explain why”, it seemed pretty compelling that today was the day don’t you think?
So to my friends and family, including my awesome sister and mother who have already had the privilege of knowing this information, I would like to say thank you very much for you love and support throughout this process because I couldn’t have done it without you. And to my friends and family just learning of this, I just say accept me as I am, as you’ve known me my whole life, or don’t. Because if I have proved nothing to you, I have proved that LGBT people are just as normal, kind and talented as anyone else in the world and who you love makes no difference in how you live.
How does this affect my comedy and acting career? Will it stop me from booking clubs or getting hired for acting jobs? who knows for sure. But I believe the added element of truth will make it a whole lot easier to be myself, write funnier material, write truthful material, and that’s good enough for me. Hopefully my story, work, and life can serve as hope to someone else because the world could use a lot less people in the closet that’s for sure. I just pray that my ultimate truth takes me to the place and places where I truly belong. The photos you see are in no particular place for a particular reason; just different moments of my life in all its many different forms its taken.
Hopefully I can be one more chip at the wall of homophobia in the world and especially the black community, where so many other people like myself suffer in silence or are banished from their homes and disowned by family because of who they are. It’s a very big problem and I will spend my life doing what I can with the talents I’ve been given to strip the black community of this illness. We can’t continue to be moral, ethical, and historical hypocrites in black America toward the LGBT community.
Dr. Seuss said “Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don’t matter and those who matter don’t mind” and this is a lesson I now take to heart, because I have just committed to doing just that. If you want to stop being my friend then by all means do just that, but if you want to continue the friendship that we have, then by all means, do that as well. I will no longer life my life for other people or for the wrong reasons. I’m no longer letting my real life pass me by. I hope this finds you all well and I wish you all the most high blessings and love. Both supporters and haters, I love all you guys. No Homo.
This post originally appeared on FREEdom Of Speech and is republished here with permission.
MM
“Both supporters and haters, I love all you guys. No Homo.”
W T F ??????????
Elton
I’m happy for him and hope that soon Travon will accept his homosexuality.
justiceontherocks
“aren’t lucky enough to walk around wearing a mask of heterosexuality?????”
this guy needs help
Travon F.
@Elton: Thank you and I accepted my homosexuality many years ago.
@MM: Sorry you dont understand sarcasm, but that was a joke.
@justiceontherocks: what i mean by that is because im considered “masculine” and dont appear to be gay, its easy for me to avoid being judged by hiding behind appearing to be staight, a lot of gay men arent able to do that and are made fun of for their appearance alone, let alone whether people actually know if theyre straight or gay.
MM
@Travon F.: You are so gay!
Red Meat
@Travon F.: Don’t waste your time on these losers, they don’t know how to read 🙂
MM
@Red Meat: You are right, Travon needs better gays!
EM
Travon, thank you for commenting here. It was perhaps not entirely helpful to put ‘No Homo’ because it sends out mixed signals – not with the fundamentals but the way you see yourself – at least, as other people read it.
However this was your move and you are what you are, so if you are accepting of yourself that’s all that should matter.
Nobody else has to live in your shoes but you and everyone should be able to express themselves and be who they are, so well done and hope you have a successful and happy life.
Good luck and all the best!
Travon F.
@Red Meat: lol thank you for the support, I dont expect everyone’s “support” but I’m happy with it all and I just want to help the cause.
@MM: thank you for noticing lol my ex girlfriends didnt mind i was bi while we dated and i noticed guys had more problem with it than the girls so i dont mind being “so gay”.
Elton
“Thank you and I accepted my homosexuality many years ago.”
By pretending to be bisexual?
PopSnap
One of my best friends is bi. He’s a pro-MMA fighter and lives in constant fear of people finding out who and what he is. It breaks my heart because of how much we care about one another but he is terrified of what other people will say, and if it will hurt his career. I told him there’s aways a first for everything; and he told me that “nobody would want to fight with a queer”. He admitted he wouldn’t even want to be seen in public with me, if I weren’t so under-the-radar.
And yes, I promise you, he *IS* bisexual. He gets with so many different girls that it’s almost funny. Only guy he’s been with is me.
Thanks, Travon Free. I dunno who you are but I’m now a big fan & so is he 🙂
Max Campbell
Elton, he is not gay. He is bisexual.
Elton
@Max Campbell: I was “bisexual” for a long time. I even married a woman – David teases me about that all the time!
Max Campbell
Stop supress male bisexuality. Fake female bisexuality from porn make free female homosexual behaviour in general.
Max Campbell
Extremely stupid fags!!!
bobby
@PopSnap,
there is already a gay MMA fighter. no one cares.
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2008/3/24/165229/759
http://www.mmafighting.com/2009/05/25/an-openly-gay-fighter-in-the-ufc-dana-white-says-hed-be-welcom/
Max Campbell
Most guys are bi-curious, but stupid fags with their biphobia make enormous mistake!
In Antiquity male bisexuality was a norm and homophobia wasn’t.
PopSnap
Haha do you really expect us to believe you’re Elton John.
Max Campbell
And now “straight” porn industry imposes double standards on bisexuality. This means that female homosexual behaviour is welcomed, but male homosexual behaviour is banned.
There are necessary to advance male bisexuality at all possible levels. Mainly, in porn. This last chance to broke double standards and to leave a ghetto.
Max Campbell
Male bisexuality is a great!!!
DR
Good luck and hope you can resolve your issues with religion. Painting all Christians with the same brush is no better than Fundamentalists painting all GLBs with the same brush. Hopefully you’ll come to the place where you understand that.
AJ
Do people still not “believe” in bisexuality? I’m gay, but it strikes me as rather logical and common.
Congrats to Travon for his thoughtful and honest post.
Max Campbell
extremely stupid fags!
Obama DID say DADT would happen on his watch... (John From England)
@Travon F.:
Geez, did you actually choose Queerty to come out? Soooooo the wrong place dude. You should’ve done Outsports.com or anywhere but here.
Commenters are these blogs are really messed up.
It’s not a big deal to be bisexual in the UK cause loads of people are and it’s not a big deal.
You are either….or in the US from what I read. Goes back to the strong Christian religion where there is good and evil. There is no grey area, otherwise you would have more moderates.
If you try and be honest or reasonable, like Obama, it brings the hate.
Good for you bit pity you chose this site to do it with. Oh well. 🙂
Andy
You’ve escaped heterosexism. Time to escape the other brain rot called religion:
http://mereatheism.com/
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/nontheism/atheism/arguments.html
tjr101
Travon, I can definitely relate to your journey. Thanks for sharing with us and I wish you all the best!
Cam
@Max Campbell: said…
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Most guys are bi-curious, but stupid fags with their biphobia make enormous mistake!
In Antiquity male bisexuality was a norm and homophobia wasn’t.”
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Actually that isn’t true, what was the norm in “Antiquity” was the gay male or bi male who preferred to be with a man, still marrying a woman to father children and continue the family line.
As for Travon, more power to you, come out, encourage others to come out, pretty soon there will be too many gays, lesbians, bi’s, transgendered, for anybody, politicians included to ignore.
So go out, enjoy, and live a good life!
Travon F.
@Elton: why would i pretend to be something im not? Ive had lengthy fulfilling relationships with both men and women and enjoy sex equally with both. it has nothing to do with not wanting to be gay, if i was i would have no problem saying so. Everyone who enjoys sex with men doesnt have to just be gay. Some men start out “straight” then use bisexual until theyre comfortable being gay and thats fine for them, but im not one of them. I love women and i just so happen to love men as well thats why the term bisexual exists. Im sorry you may have you own issues with bisexuals but it doesnt change who I am. saying that i dont want to call my self gay implies that i would think something is wrong with it and i dont.
Max Campbell
Actually, stupid fags watch how straight porn industry imposes double standards on bisexuality. But all are silent!
I know that homosexual and heterosexual intercourse as socially were not equal there. I wanted to tell not about this.
I wanted to tell that homosex was widespread!
But now guys supress their homoerotism.
At the same time the only reason for homophobia is the taboo on male homoerotism!
Cam
@Obama DID say DADT would happen on his watch… (John From England): said…
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It’s not a big deal to be bisexual in the UK cause loads of people are and it’s not a big deal.”
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Could people from other places please stop assuming that we here in the U.S. don’t know the truth about your countries? Please? here is just one little factoid from the place where it’s “No Big Deal” according to you…
“Figures from the London Metropolitan Police show that between April 2009 and March 2010 homophobic crime rose by 22.2% from the previous 12 months – from 1,093 to 1,336 incidents.”
Yeah, and London is the most gay FRIENDLY area of Britain. So, nice try.
Max Campbell
OkCupid asked almost 300,000 about their sexual experiences – and found that 13 percent of men who identified themselves as STRAIGHT (!!!) have had a same-sex experience, and another 5 percent haven’t yet but would like to. Moreover, it is important to note that the percentage of bi-curious men in the more advanced and tolerant Canada was far higher than in the U.S. =)
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Are they homosexuals too?
Answer, stupid biphobic fags!
Travon F.
and thank all the rest of you for your love and support. BTW, i dont paint all christians with the same brush, just to make that clear, i was speaking directly to the ones who have those opinions. I know great people of all religious back grounds but i was addressing the ones i have encountered with those negative views and opinions especially in black churches.
Travon F.
@PopSnap: thank you very much, i wish him the best in his journey and i appreciate your support!
Cam
@Max Campbell: said…”Stupid biphobic fags!”
Your opinions completely lose any credibility when you complain of intolerance in others only to scream “Faggot” at them.
So let me see, you think it’s fine for you to run around labeling people and calling them “Fags” but are supposedly upset that they are not open minded about bisexuality? All you’ve shown is that your mind is much more tightly closed then the people you are attacking.
Spike
Its been my experience that the truly bi-boys don’t talk about it, they just enjoy playing for both teams. Those who talk about, preach about it, stand from the highest mountain top and scream I’M BI ! ! ! ! Tend to be the gay holding pattern.
DR
@Travon F.:
Then perhaps you should have made that clear in the blog entry published here. I would have loved to have read a shout out to those who supported you, not just a shout out to those who didn’t.
Max Campbell
33 – Gays and stupid fags is a 2 different things.
It is necessary to destroy tabboo on male homoerotism and homophobia will dissapeare. It is more than obviously! It is extremely logic!
But stupid fags with their biphobia, sexism and misogony dont understand this.
Sorry! Just emotions….
About Great Britain. This country (and all Europe too) make giant fight againts homophobia. US not! Even Latino America legalize same-sex marriages already.
Max Campbell
30% of women watch porn regularly. It is necessary to create a new porn fetish “2 bisex guys for 1 girl”. This our last chance to overcome double standards, this card blanche on publicity to us!
I asked many young girls here, in Moscow. Most girls prefer gay male porn!
Obama DID say DADT would happen on his watch... (John From England)
@Cam:
Where did I say London is the most gay friendly city?
Cam, not like you to assume and make statements not based on what someone has actually said.
I said that being bisexual ISN’T a big deal here because it isn’t. That’s all. Everywhere has issues Cam and no one was saying anywhere was perfect…where did you get that?
England, London, Manchester-queer as folk was based- etc all has it’s issues but it’s common knowledge that there are a lot more people who identify as bisexual.
Look, call a spade a spade Cam. You guys are not known for not being militant in your opinions, however straight or gay or liberal you are.
Elton
@PopSnap: O@Max Campbell: I’m emotional about that too!
It is sad when gay men lie about being bisexual because that is more acceptable by society.
Remember how Michael Stipe went from “dating women and men” to being gay? I do.
John
Actor, Athlete Comedian, Frat Boy…
Jack of all trades, master of none?
And I still can’t figure out who the hell this guy is and why I should read 6 pages of this nonsense.
Cam
@Obama DID say DADT would happen on his watch… (John From England):
Well John, if you would STOP changing your name, I would have recognized and it realized that you usually come in from a better angle that I was giving an unknown poster credit for. 😉
As for Americans being militant…remember, there are several states here that have actual gay marriage, not civil partnerships like in England. So there are at least a few states (With Maryland and Rhode Island) soon to join that are more militant than Britian. 🙂
Cam
@Max Campbell: said.. ”
Gays and stupid fags is a 2 different things.”
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You sound like a Klansman trying to claim that there are “White N-Words” and Black “N-Words” as an attempt to pretend he isn’t racist.
Look, you got busted attacking people for labeling and being judgemental and yet being even more judgemental and attack oriented then they were. Take your hypocricy label and deal with it.
Max Campbell
No, Cam, no! Hypocrisy it when homophobs write that “lesbians is a cool, but fags must die”. But stupid fags just cultivates double standarts on bisexuality!
By the way, Im gay too. Im not define myself as bi.
I think Great Britain will legalize same-sex marriages in 2011 or 2012. What about bible neandertaleans in Alabama and Arkanzas?
But same-sex marriages it isnt freedom. Tabboo on male-male sensuality ia a cause of homophobia.
Max Campbell
39 – bisexuality it is not inclination 50\50
jason
Good on him for saying he’s bisexual. Bisexual men scare liberals. Anything that scares liberals is good in my book.
Gay men scare conservatives, bisexual men scare liberals. Why do bisexual men scare liberals? Because they don’t fit into the polarization paradigm that liberals love. Liberals love to segregate male-male sensuality away from the mainstream. You can see it in the way the porn industry has developed.
Liberals are truly vile creatures. Their philosophy is based on the bisexual double standard wherein female bisexuals are considered hot, male bisexuals are considered gross. It’s a pornographic female bisexuality that they admire, not a genuine one.
More men need to say they’re bisexual. Let’s scare the shit out of liberals.
Elton
“But stupid fags just cultivates double standarts on bisexuality!”
Bullshit.
Fags have sex with men and they KNOW that bisexual men are rarer than hen’s teeth so cut the crap, you aren’t fooling anyone.
jason
Also, not how little coverage this “Travon Free is bisexual” news will get in the liberal mainstream media. If it was a female saying she’s bisexual, every liberal rag in the entertainment industry would be hailing her as “gorgeous” and “cool”. Not so with men.
What more proof do you need that Hollywood and the entertainment industry are homophobic towards the concept of a male-male sexuality that can’t be segregated? Liberals are truly scared of bi guys. I’ve said it all along.
The defining hypocrisy of liberalism is the bisexual double standard (ie female bisexuality “hot”, male bisexuality “not hot”). Don’t ever forget it. It helps to put liberals in the appropriate light.
what?
“More men need to say they’re bisexual.”
Sure, more fakers will solve everything!
jason
Elton,
I would say that 80-90% of all men are bisexually oriented. They don’t say it because it is stigmatized by liberal society. Women are notoriously anti-bisexuality in men.
Women don’t want men intruding on their bisexual marketing ploys because it exposes the fraudulent nature of female sexuality in general. Male bisexuality (which is almost always genuine) exposes the fraudulent nature of much of female bisexuality.
Cam
@jason: said….
”
Also, not how little coverage this “Travon Free is bisexual” news will get in the liberal mainstream media. If it was a female saying she’s bisexual, every liberal rag in the entertainment industry would be hailing her as “gorgeous” and “cool”. Not so with men.”
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Well come on Jason, if he was well known it would appear in the papers. My god, Clay Aiken who’s career was years past it’s prime as well as Riki Martin made the major news stories.
what?
“The defining hypocrisy of liberalism is the bisexual double standard (ie female bisexuality “hot”, male bisexuality “not hot”).”
That is total nonsense and a lie. STRAIGHT MEN find female bisexuality “hot”, male bisexuality “not hot”, and that is perfectly normal for their sexuality and has nothing to do with liberalism.
Max the Communist
Thanks for coming out, Travon. It’s great to see another proud switchhitter take his place at the plate.
As to all the non-biphobic gays, thanks for upholding the real spirit of gay liberation. No more closets, no more secrets, no more shame about wherever you are on the Kinsey scale. You’re a credit to the community.
As for the biphobes–scheeesch!! There are finally some decent books on bisexuality and fluid sexuality out there–READ ONE!!! Do something to expand your minds, will ya? Your fear and hatred of fluid sexuality it sooo 1980s.
Max Campbell
Elton,
your biphobia => suppress male homoerotism => homophobia.
Max Campbell
51 – A lot of straight guys are bi-curious, but supress that. How? By homophobia. It is necessary to create a new porn fetish “2 bisex for 1 girl”. New generation of girls extremely like gays! It is our chance to overcome double standards!
Max Campbell
Jason,
problem of double standards is not in women. They are victims themselves.
divkid
welcome to the gayborhood dude…but don’t EVER put me through that again SIX FUCKING PAGES!! seriously…i’m dyslexic and frankly your hotness quotient was was going into extra time after page 4 ;….5 if topless 😛
TampaZeke
Trevon, are you comfortable with Max defending you in one breath and repeatedly calling people “fags” in the next?
globo
I think biphobic gays just feel threatened by women, is weird that these people exists considering that they are attacking their own community (LGTB) but then again ignorants come in all shapes.
I don’t really know who you are Travon but kudos on coming out 🙂
Travon F.
@DR: I actually went back and addressed that on the actual blog post because it did need to be acknowledged and not come off as something that would be polarizing
justiceontherocks
@Travon F.: Travon – I certainly wish you well, a long, happy and prosperous life and many great sexual experiences in it. But don’t delude yourself. Whether they will ever tell you or not, most of your friends and family knew.
The Artist
@Travon F.: I like the article, it was well written. You are certainly part of a New Power Generation. PEACELUVNBWILD!
Jonathan
@justiceontherocks:
Travon – as you said in the last paragraph, the quote from Dr. Seuss – “Those who matter won’t mind and those who mind don’t matter”.
I wouldn’t feel too compelled to answer these comments. Many of these people have nothing better to do than shoot down someone else.
I thought it was quite beautiful what you wrote. Very honest and sincere. Thank you.
Jonathan
@Max Campbell:
Jason: Is your world this black and white? Are you that simple minded? Those “liberals” whom you seem to have so much disdain for are the same people who gave you the right as a gay man to have a life.
Check out what conservatives have to say about you. I’m sure you’ll feel a welcome part of their club when you read how many conservative people wish you dead. Not all of them certainly, but a large percentage. Good luck with your CPAC conference, you know the same one your dear conservatives don’t want to attend because there will be queer people there.
There’s a group called GOProud. I’m sure you’ll fit right in there.
Bi Social Network
Join us on Bi Talk Radio, in fact join us for the yearlong ‘I am Visible’ campaign to stop biphobia and bi erasure in the gay, lesbian and straight communities. You are not alone but we know who the haters and hypocrites are. Join up at Bi Talk Radio and leave the hate sites to themselves.
Jonathan
@jason: Are you on crack? Where do you come up with your Bullshit ideas? Glenn Beck? What an asshole.
justiceontherocks
@Jonathan: I’m not sure why you wrote that to me. All I did was wish him well and suggest that he (and everyone else with a same sex attraction) is kidding themselves if they think others don’t know.
People would rather hear you say you are gay (or bi) than be lied to.
Jonathan
@justiceontherocks:
Sorry. It wasn’t meant for you. It was directed at Jason. The one who seems to sneer at liberals. My apology to you, not to Jason.
Bi Social Network
@Travon F.: Don’t Explain just come on Bi Talk Radio at Bi Social Network and stop waiting for gay (we want equality but not for bisexuals) to say, ‘we love you too” Start supporting bisexual sites that are real and love you for you. ‘I am Visible’ has you name on it my friend. Founder of Bi Social Network
Max Campbell
Jonathan, are you OK? Im not Jason!
Jonathan
@Max Campbell: Sorry Max, made the same mistake twice. I hit the “reply button above, instead of below. Sorry.
Max Campbell
But I agree with Jason in many points.
Travon F.
@justiceontherocks: actually, everyone Ive ever come out to didnt believe me and said they had no idea, my mom couldnt believe it. I was also a believer in the “friends and family may know” theory but no one to date has said so, probably for a number of reasons. I had to practically beg my best friend to believe me because most people think im joking. Probably because theyve only always seen me openly date women and i dont have any “tells” if thats what you wanna call it.
Travon F.
@Bi Social Network: I would love to be a part of that. Please goto my site or facebook and contact me for to set that up
Travon F.
@Travon F.: *to set that up
Jonathan
@Max Campbell: I also agree with Jason on certain points. However, mocking the same people who allowed you to come out and be what we now know as gay, or bi, or whatever seems counterproductive and obnoxious.
It detracts from the valid points of his argument when he sounds like an irritating prick.
Max Campbell
Bi Social Network,
Please, pay your attention on double standards on bisexuality. Straight porn imposes double standards. A lot of guys are bi-curious. But this shame. Tabboo on male homoerotism is a cause of homophobia.
This is ENORMOUS problem. However, stupid biphobic fags dont understand this. Extremely stupid biphobic fags.
It is necessary to advance male bisexuality at all possible levels. Mainly, in porn. This make male homosexual behaviour free.
Young girls, new generation, like male-male sensuality very much. But many of them are silent because homophobic suppression. It is necessary to create a new porn fetish for girls “2bisex guys for 1 girl”. This make bi-curious guys more free, but not homophobic.
By the same analogy how fake female bisexuality from porn make free female homosexual behaviour!
justiceontherocks
@Travon F.: Don’t kid yourself, which is easy to do at a young age. People know. For anyone who is “in the closet,” the only person you’re fooling is yourself.
Again, wishing you a great life. Hoping that everyone will realize the closet is not a place to hide.
Travon F.
@justiceontherocks: I wouldnt say I was kidding myself, Im merely basing it off my own life experience, that being the fact that based on the way i lived my life and publicly dating women, no one to date that ive come out to believed i was gay. My own teammates didnt even believe it and i spent 4 years with those guys. Usually when people have an idea or know you dont have to try to convince them youre gay or bi, they take your word for it. I lived my life in a manner that no one would think i was gay and i didnt have to try hard being a typical masculine athletic man but I understand what youre saying and i appreciate your support. I grew up in a environment that was very anti gay so if someone thought i was i definitely would have found out about it. Just speaking from my life experience.
Travon F.
@justiceontherocks: not to mention I was constantly dating or “having a college good time” with very beautiful women so no one had a reason, which is why all of the responses ive gotten from friends and family have been the same.
IonMusic
Firstly, Queerty is a lovely site, with great writers, HOWEVER…it’s comment section is one of the most chaotic free for all you will ever experience. It is often polluted with trolls bursting at the seam to troll away with divisive, derogatory, insulting, and often..completely irrelevant commentary. And don’t think it’s a large number of posters. The troll (s) is just one or two posters going in circles. Most regulars ignore them and realize it’s a mentally unstable cry for attention, but for a person sharing their intimate, raw thought provoking life story on here….TRAVON: Take everything you read on here with a grain of salt!
To those of you who use terms like fag on a gay website. Shame on you, and shame on the lack of back bone and substance behind your message that you have to resort to trigger words to garner attention for your message. It can’t stand alone with out shock and insult value?
To the genuine LGBT posters on here. Please stop the bickering between bi vs. gay. Our community IS large enough and loving enough to have space for both of us, as we hold hands fighting the good fight for respect, peace, and tolerance.
To bi men who lash out at the gay community. STABLE minded gay men and woman do not look down upon bisexuality. We don’t. I work for 3 prominent gay oriented non profits and know hundreds and hundreds of gay people, and have interacted with thousands throughout my years involved in helping progress in society and I have never experienced anything but love and appreciation for our bisexual brothers. OF COURSE there are unstable minded folks in every demographic, including straight, but do not sell the gay community short or paint as something we’re not….self respecting gay people (which is a large portion of our community) understand the plight of bisexuals and have nothing but love. Stop letting the (minority!) voices of unstable trolls silence the (prominent) louder voices of encouraging, kind, loving GAY people out there fighting for the right of LGBT. Including bisexuals.
Steve M.
@IonMusic: Well said brother! Thank you for perfeclty sharing what I was just thinking. anyone can be a tought guy on the internet. I can’t believe people actually take comments made by anonymous people on her, and think the crazies reflect the entire gay community and members in it. join a gay/lesbian social club, or group, or attend a rally, gay people out there in the real world are some of the most compassionate *least judgmental* people you will ever meet. people posting nonsense on websites online, and not just this site but every site, like these are just trying to fan flames. and on here, the goal is to pin us against each other. it’s the divide and conquer mentality.
Stop the internal fighting. it’s silly as gay, lesbian, bisexual- we share far more similarities than differences.
Steveo
What is wrong with so many of the commenters on here?? I thought the blog post was excellently written. It was so sincere and heartfelt. Travon is a very mature and gracious person, and I am thoroughly impressed by his willingness to open up about his life and share his story. Major kudos to you, Travon. Thanks so much for doing what you do. You really are inspiring.
Travon F.
@Steveo: @IonMusic: thank you guys very much, your words are greatly appreciated.
JoJoCA
LGBT and the colors on that rainbow flag signify appreciation for diversity, most of all…the diversity within our community. Gay, bi, feminine, masculine, black, white, purple we are all united. Gays and lesbians decades ago fought, died, and lived a daily living hell so today we could have the liberation and freedom to live out our happiness and livelihood, regardless of mannerisms or prefrences. Learn to embrace and celebrate the diversity of your LGBT neighbors. Not lash out at them. There’s enough people throwing us hate, we should not be doing so to one another.
Congrats Travon for having the courage to do this, and welcome to the family. You are one handsome, brave, and compassionate person.
Tom
@MM:
it’s a joke man….get over it.
Charlie
What’s with all the anti-bi crap. What does it ake away from teh rest of us if a guy is bi?
Charlie
What’s with all the anti-bi crap. What does it take away from the rest of us if a guy is bi?
Brandy
Cam said
“@Max Campbell: said…”Stupid biphobic fags!”
Your opinions completely lose any credibility when you complain of intolerance in others only to scream “Faggot” at them.
So let me see, you think it’s fine for you to run around labeling people and calling them “Fags” but are supposedly upset that they are not open minded about bisexuality? All you’ve shown is that your mind is much more tightly closed then the people you are attacking.”
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Well said Cam
Martin
I lot of gay men are subjected to biphobia.
The on-going assumption that all they need to do is have sex with the right woman or just butch up more.
As a gay man, I don’t need to have sex with a woman to know I have no sexual interest in women.
(Nor do I want to touch woman’s breasts, be their besties, go shopping with them, or wear a dress like them.)
Porn these days is infested with the bullshit premise that many ‘straight’ guys will have sex with men just to get off, they were drunk, or needed money.
It sends the message that sex with men is demeaning, shameful, disgraceful, and has no value – that men need alcohol or $$ to ‘do it’ with another man.
This serves to diminish the integrity of gay relationships. I don’t just want to get off with a man but to also develop a long-term relationship.
Paul
Steve M and IonMusic
Is there really a gay community? or glbt community?
What similarities do gay, lesbian, bisexual share?
jason
Cam,
But Clay Aiken and Ricky Martin came out as gay, not bi. Bi men are not useful political fodder for the liberal pity industry. Liberals use gays in a “to be pitied” fashion as part of a wider strategy of fighting the conservative movement.
Liberals basically use the concept of “gay” to fight their war against conservatives.
Charlie,
You make a superb point when you question why so many gay guys seem to be offended by bisexual men. I think that one of the reasons – among many – is that some gay men see “gay” as an intensely partisan concept to which one must devote 100% of oneself. It’s akin to declaring political allegiance. One wouldn’t turn up at a meeting of the GOP saying one is partly Democratic Party oriented. You’re either a Republican or not.
I tend to view these partisan gays in a very negative light.
Max Campbell
88 – Firstly necessary to make male-male sensuality as ordinary thing. But straight porn suppress male erotism. However, not suppress female homoerotism. As result, female homosexual behaviour is free in mass conciousness, but male homosexual behaviour isn’t. Female homosex is specified as straight (ordinary, mainstream), but male homosex is specified as gay (deviant). That’s a problem.
globo
@Max Campbell: Max, I swear dude I don’t get all your porn commments, what is up with that!?
Cam
@jason: said….
“””
Charlie,
You make a superb point when you question why so many gay guys seem to be offended by bisexual men. I think that one of the reasons – among many – is that some gay men see “gay” as an intensely partisan concept to which one must devote 100% of oneself.”””
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Or Jason, there is another reason which has been expressed multiple times on here. That is, that huge numbers of gay men declare themselves to be bisexual when they are first venturing out of the closet. However, any mention of this fact is ignored or ruthlessly attacked by the one or two bisexuals on the site. All anybody would have to do is say “Well that isn’t the situation with me.” but they don’t do that, they come in call everybody a faggot, and then go on and on about the horrors of bi-phobia. The complete and utter failure of any bi folks on here to acknoledge that many gay men have been or had friends label thsselves as bi only to drop that label when they felt comfortable I feel is a weakness. By failing to acknowledge that it hurts the credibility of the rest of your arguments. We’ve all seen it or experienced it, to deny it is silly.
Jeffree
@Globo:,@Cam: This thread has gotten derailed due to “Jason” and his alter ego/sock puppet “Max Campbell” so he/they can spout their hatred of gays. It’s one thing to be proud of being a happy bisexual, as Travon did, but another for a troll to rant about the same thing over & over without talking about the TOPIC.
Travon took the high-road. I’m glad to read his story. I wish Q’ty moderated Max and Jason so the decent conversation could have continued.
Charlie
Ok. I get that a lot of us came out as Bi when we first came out. For some it was a comfortable transition. Why then do we have the right to say “This means bi men do not exist.”
Here we have a person coming out as Bi… which will not be great for his career when it comes to reactions from straight fans… and then the gay community says “No you have to swear off women for life or we don’t want you!”
There isn’t one universal experience of being Queer. Some guys discover that they like dressing as women. Does that mean this must be true for all of us? Are we in denial of some crucial part of our psyche that really wants to shop at Victoria’s Secret?
How do we get to complain about being judged by straight people when the FIRST thing so many did to this guy was judge him and call him a liar or deluded?
Travon, welcome to the team.
Max Campbell
Globo, fake female bisexuality from porn make free female homosexual behaviour. only stupid fags dont understand this.
Cam, are you sure?
For what gay men define themselves as bi?!!! To listen bi-phobic crap from stupid fags, who cultivates double standards and homophobia? Are you Ok in general?
Max Campbell
on the contrary, bi-guys define themselves as gays.
Max Campbell
Oh, Jeffrey, fan of double standards on bisexuality! Hello, hypocrite!!
Max Campbell
Why do gays and lesbians in show business can be scary, old, funny and generally unattractive, and bisexual coming-outs are based almost entirely on model looking girls that look as if they come down from the glossy magazine cover. It looks like old and unattractive bisexuals do not exist. We are sick and tired of this vile lie! Does anybody believe it? Why there are no bisexual coming-outs from young pretty guys?
Max Campbell
You can not doubt that very many people have paid attention to this theme already.
Why Madonna and Britney Spears have right to kiss in 2003, but Adam Lambert has no right to kiss a guy in 2009. Why?
ewe
I do believe being bisexual is very difficult. Being gay is difficult because of the culture in which we live and the ignorant attitudes we face but being bisexual seems to be even more difficult because of the inner turmoil. I only am speaking for true bisexuals not for those who are hiding behind that label to avoid something else. I also have to say i never met a bisexual that did not lean mostly to one side of the fence. Whatever that is for Travon, i wish him luck.
Max Campbell
Most guys are bi-curious. But this is tabboo, and they suppress their homoerotism. This is a cause for homophobia.
Tabboo on male-male sexuality is a cause of homophobia. Nothing else…
Biphobia => suppress male erotism => homophobia.
Max Campbell
By the way, hypocrite Jeffree, Im not agree with Jason in many points. Im not Jason. Are you really surprised that a lot of people around the World againts Hypocrisy?
Jonathan
@jason:
“Liberals basically use the concept of “gay” to fight their war against conservatives”. No. Gay is who I am, I don’t care what self-proclaimed conservatives think of it nor did it have anything to do with my coming out as gay, it wasn’t to poke the eye of anyone conservative.
Jason – Do you think before you post your stupid bullshit? Seriously, I don’t care whether you’re conservative or not but you seem to go overboard by embarassing yourself. Are you like 19 years old and consumed by Fox news? You sound imbalanced and somewhat deranged. Get help.
Cam
@Charlie: said… “”
Ok. I get that a lot of us came out as Bi when we first came out. For some it was a comfortable transition. Why then do we have the right to say “This means bi men do not exist.” “”
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Charlie, I was responding to somebody coming in here and attacking gays, calling us all faggots, bi-phobic etc… So why, in reading my response to that would you think that I ever said bi’s don’t exist?
What I think is silly is that some bisexuals come on here and are so angry, so ready to attack and name call, and complain of horrible bi-phobia. However, lets look at this.
Gays are stuck, if there are no gay rights, then we have no options. If you are a genuine bisexual, you have at least a 50% chance that you will be able to be in a relationship legally with somebody you love.
If gays win rights, bisexuals are covered no matter what they do, if gays do not win rights, bisexuals still have an option to be with somebody they are attracted to and love legally.
So in all the attacks, and calling us faggots etc… there seems to be the issue of them forgetting, that currently, they are better off then we are, and as we push for more and more gay rights, it does nothing but help them, so they need to knock off the name calling. If Max is a bisexual, then my suggestion to him is…go be a bisexual. Date who you want and stop calling everybody a faggot.
Max Campbell
Psychoanalytic theory holds that homophobia – the fear, anxiety, anger, discomfort and aversion that some heterosexual people hold for gay individuals – is the result of repressed homosexual urges that the person is either unaware or denies. A study provides empirical evidence that is consistent with that theory.
Researchers at the University of Georgia conducted an experiment involving 35 homophobic men and 29 non-homophobic men as measured by the Index of Homophobia scale. All the participants selected for the study described themselves as exclusively heterosexual both in terms of sexual arousal and experience.
Each participant was exposed to sexually explicit erotic materials consisting of heterosexual, male homosexual and lesbian videotapes. Their degree of sexual arousal was measured by penile plethysmography, which precisely measures and records male erections.
Men in both groups were aroused by about the same degree by a video depicting heterosexual sexual behavior and by a video showing two women engaged in sexual behavior. The only significant difference in degree of arousal between the two groups occurred when they viewed a video depicting male homosexual sex: “The homophobic men showed a significant increase in penile circumference to the male homosexual video, but the non-homophobic men did not.”
Max Campbell
Cam, relax! Im not bisexual. Im gay. I have told this already.
But Im against hypocrisy and double standards on bisexuality. Bisexual double standards from porn suppress male homoerotism. And bi-curious guys become a homophobic. This is a cause of homophobia.
It is enormous problem! More important than DADT!
Jonathan
@Max Campbell: Max – give it a rest. BTW – your use of the word fag implies you have your own issues to deal with. Your seeming obsession with bisexual porn (female vs. male) is hilarious. Porn is not reality.
If you’re going to use the word eroticism – then learn how to spell it. mmkay? You’ve made your point, now move along.
Max Campbell
Jonathan, porn imposes standards on human sexuality. And make a fashion. Porn has enormous influence on our reality!
For example, all this fake bi girls from show-business and their girl-girl kisses.
But where is all bisexual guys??? Where is guy-guy kisses on clips???
Tina
Totally agree with Max Campbell. Open your eyes!
jason
A lot of posters here seem more offended by genuine bisexual males than by fake bisexual females. This is an interesting phenomenon. Why so?
I’m of the view that the gay male community is using fake bisexual females as a sort of “bargaining chip” in an acceptance deal with men who identify as heterosexual. It’s a case of “you straight guys can have your fake bisexual females so long as you give us our rights”. If that’s the basis of gay rights in America, all I can say is “fuck off”.
I make no deals. My rights as a gay or bisexual male do not depend on a deal with sleazy straight guys.
jason
Max Campbell makes the important point that many in the GLBT community seem almost apathetic about the rise of the fake bisexual female via the porn industry. He points out that this is imposing a new sexual discrimination on American society. It’s a valid point.
Keep in mind that porn is usually the major means through which young adults get their impressions of the human sexual act. There is no other comparable visual means. Hollywood doesn’t deal in explicit sex, the sex education system in schools is extremely poor….it’s no wonder porn has such a huge influence.
Max’s point is well taken and important. When will the general GLBT community realize that the bisexual double standard is imposing a new form of discrimination on Åmerican society?
Max Campbell
Unfortunatelly, it is not only American problem.
It is necessary to direct all energies to popularization male bisexuality in a porn. Gays-scenes should be included in a straight-porno because it is pleasant to women, and bi-curious guys become free and not homophobic. Or to influence through laws.
Otherwise it will turn back simply catastrophe and another segregation of gay guys!
Just one cause of homophobia – tabboo on male-male sexuality!!!
Jeffree
@Jason/”Max Campbell”:
This thread isn’t about you, nor is it the place to spew your obssessive ranting. Get your own blog. That way you can repeat the same exact sentences over and over. Like you always do.
This is about Travon, a subject that you’ve basically ignored. Remember?
jason
Jeffree,
Maybe you should talk about Travon, then. Stop ranting against your fellow posters. Either that or get a life.
Max Campbell
Jeffree, this thread about homophobia and biphobia. And about causes of this phenomenons.
Remember?
I am assured that Travon (as bisexual) constantly faced with double standards on bisexuality. But all are silent about it. Why?
Max Campbell
Jeffree is a vile hypocritical crap=))
justiceontherocks
@Max what are “absolutelly analogical things”?? Old clocks?
Tina
Jeffree, shut up!
justiceontherocks
Ok Max, time to take your meds and go far a walk with the nice man in the white coat.
MMDD
@MM: Yeah, he pretty much killed it with that kind of closure.
justiceontherocks
yes Max. you win. You are much wiser then the rest of us and we are honored that that you shared a small portion of your infinite knowledge with us. Perhaps next time you can bless the readers of a different site.
Jeffree
Amazing, isn’t it that “Jason” & “Max Campbell” post within two minutes of each other. (5:12 and 5:14 p.m.)
Pretend friends is all “Jason” has, so we should be nice to him/ them. Plus he might be the next guy showing up at a supermarket parking -lot with a score to settle: against “tabboos”, “double standards”. And Hollywood. And the “sleazy” people who watçh pòrn.
Meanwhile, Travon Free is probably asking himself if “Max” and “Jason” even read what he wrote….
justiceontherocks
Max – when you learn to write in English get back to us. But for the record, I don’t watch porn, I am bisexual and I could care less about your opinion of either. I just enjoy watching you make an ass of yourself. And i am done having fun with this.
CONVERSATION CHAMBER
Jason has about a dozen alters he uses on here to back himself and his silly perspectives up. If Queerty cared more about quality than quantity, they would have banned his IP months ago.
Jonathan
@CONVERSATION CHAMBER: I noticed both Jason and Max were too boring to waste =much time on other than to mock. Stupid comments and stupid analogies.
It really was pathetic. Jason, you’re such a rebel! You conservative rascal!! Max, you’re bizarre and focused on something stupid and irrelevant.
jason
Jeffree might well be one of these boner dykes who go around claiming they’re into women for the benefit of pleasing sleazy straight guys who hate gays in general. Such a misguided option in life, one would think.
In any case, Jeffree would do well to condemn fake bisexual women and support genuine bisexual men. It’s genuine bisexual men who offer the best bridge to acceptance of male-male sexuality in the mainstream. The fake bisexual women are whores who demean our community.
Cam
@Max Campbell: said…
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But Im against hypocrisy and double standards on bisexuality. Bisexual double standards from porn suppress male homoerotism. And bi-curious guys become a homophobic. This is a cause of homophobia.
It is enormous problem! More important than DADT!””
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No, actually DADT is a federal law that codifies discrimination against gays. Getting rid of a written federal law that gives us second class citizenship is much more important that worrying about porn having two girls kissing and not two guys. People like to think that laws follow attitude, but in many cases laws force and attitude change as they did with desegregation, interacial marriage, housing laws etc… And having us labeled as second class officially is a much larger problem.
geri
Mmm. If James 1 of England was gay then he’s proof that gays can be straight if they try seeing as he fathered 7 children and his wife had a further 3 miscarriages and 2 more children stillborn.
And that’s the thing Travon, if you want people to respect your bisexual identity it is incredibly foolish to say James 1 was gay like it’s established historical fact. It isn’t. Much better to say there is some evidence to suggest that he may have been bisexual (or even homo-emotional) – which there is. However it is an historical fact that he also condemned sodomy as a “horrible crime” in the Basilikon Doron.
E.G. “But as this seuere Iustice of yours vpon all offences would bee but for a time, (as I haue alreadie said) so is there some horrible crimes that yee are bound in conscience neuer to forgiue : such as Witch-craft, wilfull murther, Incest, (especially within the degrees of consanguinitie) Sodomie, poisoning, and false coine. As for offences against your owne person and authoritie, since the fault concerneth your selfe, I remit to your owne choise to punish or pardon therein, as your heart serueth you, and according to the circumstances of the turne, and the qualitie of the committer”
http://students.ncf.edu/merode.lichterman/Basilikon%20Doron%20by%20James%20I.html
So James 1 can hardly be consider as any sort of gay hero. Precisely the opposite in fact.
Jonathan
@Max Campbell: Max: You are half-witted moron. You call me homophobic and then proceed to call “stupid conformist fags”? That’s homophobic.
I could give less of a shit about porn, I don’t watch it. I could give a shit about your immature and moronic theories. Before you call others stupid you might want to learn how to construct a sentence or even spell “Homoeroticism.” Idiot.
What are you 14? You sound ridiculous.
Jonathan
@Cam: LOL. You mean you don’t agree with Max that “is bigger problem than DADT”? I’ll admit to being flummozed by the logic and priorities of Max.
I think it may be in Maxs’ interest to get a psych evaluation.
Karla
Yes! I’m an straight girl. And I want to see gay-scenes in a straight porn. It is hot!
Karla
Jonathan, most people watch porn regularly. Your comments are silly!
Jonathan
@Karla: Most people don’t watch porn regularly. I’m sure it is very popular, but I could care less. It certainly doesn’t deserve the importance that yourself and Max seem to lend to it.
Did ether of you even read this article? I’m sure the answer is no. Max, you’re still an idiot. You obsess about porn, why not turn off your computer and do something constructive?
Karla, glad you like men-on-men bisexual porn. Whatever. Both of you are insipid.
Olga
Hello! Im Olga. And Im from Moscow too. Totally support my friend Max. I think many gay guys dont want to recognice a truth.
By the way the fact that girls are indifferent to porn is a myth.
Karla
Jonathan, I live in homophobic country, but many girls like gays here, however!
May be not regularly, but all knows that gay sex is a shame.
Jill Hayze
OK, the problem is not gay porn. I like watching it, find me a open minded girl, who doesn’t. Sex in generally is NOT a shame.
The problem is our own disaffection, we are too accustomed to pornographic images of any kind.
Cam
@Olga: said…
“”
Hello! Im Olga. And Im from Moscow too. Totally support my friend Max. I think many gay guys dont want to recognice a truth.”
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The fact that you are from Russia explains why you don’t see things the same way. Russia doesn’t have a long history with freedoms, therefore codified discrimination is something you are used to. You would be like the women in the 1900’s who felt that making sure women were portrayed better in literature was more important than getting the right to vote.
Jill Hayze
P. S. German girls prefer gay porn too
Olga
Double standards is a universal phenomenon.
Jonathan
Does anyone notice that “Olga” and Max write exactly in the same syntax? It could be they are both non-native English speakers, but I doubt it.
Max – anyone who says porn is more important than DADT has lost all credibility.
Travon – your article was wonderful and I wish you the best. So sorry this comment thread has been hijacked by imbeciles obsessing about porn.
Olga
Johnatan, what about your Russian language or another foreign?
Soupy
Max, are you an alter identity of Jason on here? Is he inside you right now? Can I speak to him?
Olga
Soupy, fuck you!
Jonathan
I’m ouuta here. The comments on Queerty are written by morons such as Max who, when you question the stupid obsession with porn – he calls you a troll and a fag. Grow up, half-wit.
Olga
Ha-ha.. You can ask moderators about our different IP!
I also can to say that all our opponents is one thing. Of course, me and Max have equal syntaxis! You don’t want to agree with a truth!
justiceontherocks
@ Soupy: Leave Max/Olga/Jason alone. He/she/it is having a conversation with themselves and you’re distracting them. Now go be a troll somewhere else.
Soupy
Clearly, Olga is the more profane and low class alter identity.
Olga
justiceontherocks, you are a troll.
Olga
I think “Jeffrey” is not gay man.
Cam
@Max Campbell:
Max, those questions have already been shot down by 10 other people on here. Now you are ignoring their comments and trying to pretend that they haven’t been answered.
Bolshoi Goluboi.
justiceontherocks
@Soupy: Your problem is you don’t watch enough porn. All sensible people are obsessed with porn. All the problems of the world are the result of sexism in porn. We both need to quite annoying Olga/Jason/Max and watch more porn so we can have complete and fulfilled lives.
Soupy
I think that they are flogging a dead horse. And I mean that literally.
justiceontherocks
@Soupy – perhaps they have no horse to flog – dead or any other kind.
Olga
justiceontherocks, kill yourself!
Karla
By the way, valid questions in #167
Soupy
Why does Max talk like Tarzan?
Soupy
Why you leave out parts of speech and spell stupud?
Soupy
Why Max so upset? Why Max not take medication?
Jonathan
@Soupy: Max no take medication because he spent all coins on porn.
Jonathan
@justiceontherocks: It is the cause of war, strife and homophobia!! Buy and consume more porn.
Make sure it is bisexual porn that presents man-on-man action or Max will overwhelm your comment thread with endless pointless comments.
Max – we don’t respond to your arguments because they are pointless and childish. Yes, we are aware there is a double standard – there are many double stanhdards. Get over it.
justiceontherocks
@Jonathan: I would respond except I decided to take Olga’s suggestion and kill myself. It was the only way to overcome my infantile lack of interest in porn. And in Olga/Max/Jason.
Jonathan
@justiceontherocks: LOL. You mean you no want to “argumentize” with Max? Please, don’t kill yourself. We will send porn right away!! Porn is the most IMPORTANT thing to gay people and cause of homophobia!
Karla
Jonathan said: Yes, we are aware there is a double standard – there are many double stanhdards.
Awesome logic! LOL. Stop any gay rights activity! Homophobia? Just get over it, dude))))
Soupy
Me likee Max. Max big man. big head. big obsession. But Max wankie wankie tiny peepee.
Karla
Soupy, but you are BIG CRAP!
Olga
111- Jason, another very interesting phenomenon that almost all straight girls recognise that double standards (from porn) is exist, lesbians told that “porn make their live more better”. But idiotical gays try to deny it. However, it is obviously!
Complex of mechanisms of psychological protection
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+100500
Olga
Straight girls want bisex guys!!!
justiceontherocks
@Jonathan: I cam to my senses. My Bf and I went next door and DPed the bitch there. She loved having two cocks at once and said she would never be homophobic again. Now I can spend the rest of the afternoon being a vile crap troll on the internet. Like Soupy. P.S. to Max – unlike you, my BF has a visible functioning penis.
Jonathan
@Karla: Karla – you may reinterpret my comment as you see fit – you seem as shallow and ridiculous as Max. You should hook up and do bisexual porn since you both seem to think porn is so important.
Soupy
Thanks Karla, love ya too.
justiceontherocks
@Jonathan: If Karla hooked up with Max that would be called “self-sex”
Karla
Jonathan, you’re really cretin. Problem is not in porn. Double standards is a problem. And gays never will be free, while there will be an interdiction for male homosexual sex!
Soupy
Could you be a little more specific than “lesbian girl”? Does she have a name? And why didn’t she put the word “of” in her statement?
Jonathan
Max/Karla – you’re the same person. The only way Max could get anyone to agree with his obsessive comments was to create a fake Russian girl to support his fallacious and mindless arguments.
Karla/Max, being called a cretin by you is a compliment. What a stupid pointless thread this has become.
Jonathan
@justiceontherocks: Justice – you left out Karla, Maxs’ other online persona! They are truly uninteresting and dull.
Fun to mock, though.
justiceontherocks
@Jonathan: i just sent Sarah Palin an e-mail suggesting she look at bi-sexual porn. It will turn her life and political agenda around.
Karla
Jonathan, stop eat hamburgers with cola! Because your brain is silly and stupid. Im not Max. Moderators see that. But you are silly cretin.
Olga
Jonathan, kill yourself!
Olga
Yes! I totally support Max. Straight girls prefer male body. and this fetish can popularise gay male sex and destroy homophobia! by the some analogy with fake female bisexuality/
Jonathan, you are more crap than Jeffrey-Soupy!
Soupy
I’m going to leave now. These people are the enemies of conjunctions, articles, and prepositions.
justiceontherocks
Jonathan – don’t kill yourself!!! Watch bisexual porn and help destroy homophobia by some analogy with fake female bisexuality/
Jonathan
@Olga: Kill myself? Over you, Maxs and Karlas pathetically stupid comments? The only way I would consider suicide is if I were trapped in a room with the three of you and had no way to escape your dull, mindless pointless, and meaningless chatter.
I still think you’re really just Maxs’ split personalities, one dumber than the next.
For you Max – I’ll put this in language that you use repeatedly “Max, you stupid vile idiotical crap troll hypocrite fag”.
You sound exactly that stupid. Karla – go fuck yourself, you’re a terrible writer and if all you can come up with is to tell someone to kill themselves, please follow your own advice. Stupid twat.
Jonathan
@justiceontherocks: LOL. If I hadn’t had fake lesbian bisexxual porn handy it could have been a close one! The noose was around my neck until “Euro trash lesbian lust” arrived on DVD. I was SAVED by porn. It also resulted in an exorcism of my homophobia as an added benefit!!
Olga
Jonathan, ty eblan!
Olga
Why do gays and lesbians in show business can be scary, old, funny and generally unattractive, and bisexual coming-outs are based almost entirely on model looking girls that look as if they come down from the glossy magazine cover. It looks like old and unattractive bisexuals do not exist. We are sick and tired of this vile lie! Does anybody believe it? Why there are no bisexual coming-outs from young pretty guys?
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+100500
justiceontherocks
It is no longer interesting to follow the posts of a single deluded idiot with at least four on-line personalities.
To: Max/Olga (Olya)/Karla/Jason and however many others there are, talk amongst yourselves and figure out a way to get very much needed psychoanalytical help.
Jonathan
@Soupy: Enemies of? It’s the annihilation of punctuation, grammar, contractions, conjunctions, verbs and thought.
The English language may never recover from this assault. 🙂
How do you unsubscribe from this thread? What do I know – I just stupid idiotical conformist hypocrite troll fag who won’t argumentize! LMAO.
Olga
justiceontherocks, Im OK. But you are silly conformist. Gay movement now is a bog, it means that not big changes. Gay guys not free still! Necessary special methods.
justiceontherocks
Olga/Jason/Max/Karla wrote: justiceontherocks, Im OK. But you are silly conformist. Gay movement now is a bog, it means that not big changes. Gay guys not free still! Necessary special methods.
Yes, I cannot argumentize with that.
If I were Russian I’d be pissed off about the silly stereotype being perpetuated here that all Russians talk and write like Boris and Natasha from the Bullwinkle show.
Soupy
How do I put this? I not American. But I try teach you english. “Go to masturbate on fake bi girls!!” Now leave out the preposition “to”. Now try again.
Soupy
Okay. Patience. Now you are misusing the adjective “hypocritical” and using a scatological noun as a proper noun, without the capital letter. Do you want to learn or not?
jason
Jonathan and Justice On The Rocks,
But you should be concerned about straight porn. Straight porn imposes a bisexual double standard. This affects the public’s view of sexuality in a way that is counter-productive to acceptance of gay and bisexual men. It is also counter-productive to acceptance of genuine gay and bisexual women because it imposes a straight male-appeasing standard that is very narrow, fake and sexist.
The broader GLBT community seems to be asleep at the wheel as far as this issue is concerned.
Jonathan
Max – I’d also like to inform you I’m not American either. I am Canadian. You are barely literate. You should thank Soupy for his valuable free English lesson as it appears to be the first you’ve had to date.
Jason, who cares about porn? Seriously, let Max do his broken english dissertation of porn and its implications on gay liberation and he can share it with you.
You only like Max because he’s the only person who’s ever agreed with your sorry TEA bagging conservative gay “rebel wanna-be” stupidity.
justiceontherocks
Max/Olga/Jason/Karla/Adam Lambert
The language on this blog is English, not jabberwocky. When you can ask your questions in sensible English, someone might do something other than make fun of you.
And please don’t call me a hypocritical crap troll. That is so yesterday. Come up with something new.
justiceontherocks
You are not able to “communicate” in English. Nothing you write makes any sense. All we know is you are obsessed with bisexual porn. Maybe if you watched more bisexual porn and typed less you’d be happier. I know we all would.
Black Pegasus
Travon, I’m not on board with the Bi-sexual movement nor the religious faction within our country, but I do support any young Gay or Bi man who has made the choice to Live Out Loud and without Fear! I commend you my Brother! And I wish you well in our journey.
We’ll be watching…
justiceontherocks
#245 – No. 1 makes no sense. The answer to 2 & 3 is no.
Jonathan
@justiceontherocks: I couldn’t agree more. Less typing, more porn watching would do you good Max. It would do us even better.
Tell Boris and Natasha to watch porn with you. If you pay attention you may even learn not to use the word “idiotical”.
(Hint, Olga and Max) Idiotic is a word, idiotical is nonsense.
Jonathan
@Max Campbell: Max – there is no debate here. Your theories about porn are what are known as fallacies of hasty generalization.
I’d strongly suggest you refer to a critical thinking textbook and learn to present an argument. I would also strongly suggest you cease calling people “fag” and “stupid” (especially when you write as poorly as you do). Insults do not promote debate (look up the definition). You want to argue (argumentize is NOT a word)and attack. No one will do anything but ridicule you if you persist in being so immature.
justiceontherocks
#249 – I don’t agree there are double standards on bisexuality. Sometimes there are, sometimes there aren’t. Some people have them, some don’t.
Your questions are too simplistic to be meaningful. Overly simplistic thought is pretty common for someone who isn’t very bright.
But here’s something real easy for you: you are both ignorant and a fool. An embarrassment to your race: the human race. Please troll on other sites in the future. This conversation is over.
Elvis has left the building.
Jonathan
@Max Campbell: Max: You are comment #253. You just called yourself a cretin and a hypocrite.
I’ve read enough to agree with cretin but hypocrite? Maybe.
Jonathan
Max – re-read my previous comment. #250. I was being polite and not judging you. I was trying to offer some constructive criticism.
If you attack and belittle people by calling them names(such as “cretin”) they will ridicule you (make fun of you) in response.
That is what you have experienced here.
As Justice said your arguments are so overly simplistic as to be meaningless and unworthy of debate. You seem to only want to attack which implies you’re angry and seeking a target to vent.
I understand this is your second language. I know communicating in English is difficult for you.
jason
I think Max is concerned about the social double standard in relation to bisexuality, which is propagated by the straight porn industry. He’s got every reason to be concerned. What concerns me is that there isn’t much talk about this important issue on the gay websites. It’s as if many gay and bi men don’t care.
You might not care now but in the future you will when you see how skewed society’s perception becomes as a result of porn.
Olga
Straight girls want straight porn with gay scenes!
Adora
justiceontherocks said: I don’t agree there are double standards on bisexuality. Sometimes there are, sometimes there aren’t. Some people have them, some don’t.
Are you OK? Vile lies!
Soupy
Max, you are “an” ordinary cretin. In this case, you should use the indefinite article, properly elided for the vowel following.
Also, when “teaching the dog…” should be “teaching a dog”. Use the indefinite article.
I hope that you are learning this, because there will be a quiz.
Mykey
@Elton: Hallo, there are more bisexuals than you can imagine, most of them are “straight”!
Soupy
Dear Max
Only “a” cretin can deny…
What is your problem with using articles?
And once again, you are improperly using “stupid crap”.
If you cannot learn these things, you have a remedial problem and, as such, will need a “special” teacher.
Jonathan
@Soupy: I’ll answer for Max – “Vile idiotical troll crap (or is it crap troll? hmmm) Hypocritical confromist cretin!!! Go fake bi girl masturbate!”
How did I do?
jason
Max Campbell is quite correct in his assertion of the existence of the bisexual double standard in the porn industry. It’s an indisputable fact. How anyone can deny its existence is beyond me. It’s one of the staple philosophies of so-called straight porn – ie that all women are bisexual but all men are straight.