UPDATE (1:15 P.M. PST): Read Vivica’s response to this story HERE. (Spoiler alert: She’s not apologizing.)
In case you haven’t been paying attention, Vivica A. Fox is on a quest to reclaim her ’90s B-list celebrity status.
Her latest attempt comes by way of her new reality show, Black Magic, on Lifetime. The show follows Fox around as she prepares to launch a new business in Las Vegas. The concept is an exotic, all-male revue featuring hot dancers. It’s supposed to be like Magic Mike with a dose of melanin, providing ladies with “the ultimate girls night out.”
Related: Vivica A. Fox Outs 50 Cent, Rapper Explains What Makes Her Think He’s Gay
Of course, this is not Ms. Fox’s first foray into the world of reality television. In 2008, she hosted VH1’s short-lived Glam God with Vivica A. Fox, where she judged wannabe celebrity stylists. In 2009, she hosted TVLand’s The Cougar, where she helped pair women of a certain age with 20-something men. And in 2012, she hosted the Lifetime show Prank My Mom, a secret camera show where kids punk their moms. She also appeared on The Celebrity Apprentice 7 back in 2014, and served as the celebrity spokesperson for the newly revamped Psychic Friends Network.
Related: Vivica A. Fox Got Teased For Being Ridiculously Successful
Given the success of Magic Mike, especially among gay men, we’d say that, unlike her previous efforts, Vivica may be onto something with this new show. There’s just one teeny tiny problem: She doesn’t want any gay guys there.
In a recent interview with Charlamagne tha God and DJ Envy on the morning radio show The Breakfast Club, she was asked if her show was “for gay men, too.”
“Aw, hell no,” Vivica was quick to reply. “Back all that up. No! NO!”
When asked why her dancers wouldn’t perform for gay men, Vivica replied, “Because there’s no need to. They dance for women. It’s called the ultimate girls night out for a reason.”
Well, OK then! Message received loud and clear.
Related: Vivica A. Fox doubles down, accuses people of trying to “steal her joy”
This isn’t the first time Vivica has made homophobic remarks in public either. In 2015, she insinuated her ex, rapper 50 Cent, was gay because he enjoyed rim jobs, and said he looked like a gay “booty snatcher” in a photoshoot he did with Soulja Boy for Vibe magazine.
We think we speak for everyone when we say: Girl, bye!
h/t: TMZ
BriBri
Are we supposed to be upset?
Guillermo
While her words were not homophobic, I do feel her tone was!!! I mean, was “Back all that up. No! NO!” necessary? No, she could have said, well, have their own thing, Gay men have A LOT of outlets for fun, but girls don;t have that many and this one is for the girls!
So, she doesn’t need to worry about me watching her in anything either.
Ksb1978
Bitch,bye. There are places where gay/bisexual men can see beautiful black/brown men dancing. Who would want to be part of ‘ladies night out’ anyways? Pass.
RIGay
Don’t really care. What happens in Vegas can be cured with antibiotics and common sense.
tchuy03
Who cares? Queerty quit set on fire every time these so called celebrities say something ignorant.
Paco
I’m so desensitized to seeing muscled, hairless, naked bodies in all forms of gay entertainment and advertising, that being excluded from male stripper shows intended for heterosexual women just isn’t that important to me. She didn’t need to be b!tchy about it though.
sfbeast
Why would gay men want to go? Sounds dreary
Goosecurls
Don’t forget Vivica also was on (for lack of a better word), reality show, “The Starlet” in 2005. A show that was so bad in so many ways. You can find evidence of it’s putridness all of the web. I did like Vivica on “Empire” when I was still watching it.
jbone14
I honestly don’t find this statement homophobic, there are clubs for gay men and clubs for Women, who cares! Her tone behind it sounded a little homophobic. But not every place has to be inclusive of gay men. Not everyplace has to be inclusive straight women. It’s just the way it is, so she doesn’t want to allow gay men into her club, that’s fine. I will find another location to have fun and be with my friends who love me for who I am and accept me for who I am, I don’t need her club to feel included.
AxelDC
Does that mean no men? How is she going to screen out gays from the men in general?
If she’s not going to allow men in the audience, she’s going to lose a gender discrimination suit.
Bob LaBlah
Vivica, sweetheart, male exotic dancers are sooooooooooooo 1980’s. I laugh when I think back to how the question never entered the minds of those lonely women who would stuff as much as $30 apiece into the g-strings of men who were going home to their boyfriends. Depending on where the show was many of those guys would walk away with a couple of hundred tax-free dollars per night.
Honey, your show is dead upon arrival and I hope every investor in it loses their shirt for not questioning how a fifty-two year old was going to be believable and watchable promoting twenty-something year old men to get up and shake their booty with a cash incentive. Pathetic indeed.
IQgrande
I respect her choice as people should but her tone was def messed up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LwSseoSd4g
MrRed
Give me a break. We can’t have running commentary that we had girls in gay bars and then feign shock when someone wants to have a party just for girls. Get over it, queens.
MrRed
had = hate
TheBigOne
LOL, seriously? She’s hardly the first to not allow gay men into these types of events.
Grow a thicker skin already. I really couldn’t care less about attending such a shallow and empty event and none of you should either.
broadshoulder
“Given the success of Magic Mike, especially among gay men,”
You reckon? Most people thought it was a bore. There weren’t even ant knobs in it
As for this super sexy woman discriminating against gay men – lets not allow her into any gay bars?????
and watch her bleat….
richard2179
Not sure which is worse, Vivica’s preference for excluding gays or our preferences (race, age, body type, etc)? It’s all just preferences, right?
jdboston617
Her comments were NOT homophobic.
There’s no reason why this can’t be a “girls only” strip show.
Calm down.
skilos
No problem. Don’t want to give my money to that skanky bitch anyway.
skilos
Don’t know why a bunch of women would want to watch a bunch of gay men dance anyway.
pudman56
Then I guess Ms. Vivica A Fox can kiss my white, gay ass.
M K
What she doesn’t understand is that her female audience members would love it if they were together with a bunch of gay men…. some of their best ‘girlfriends’ and nothing like they get at home. She is cutting herself and her target audience off.
I had set my DVR to record her new show… I’ll now be deleting that!
pattygale
May she go down in a spectacular fashion befitting her closed mind.
pattygale
@skilos: Seriously? Chiefly because they’re hot, they’re fun, and most don’t fancy themselves as the savior of womanhood. Lighten up!
jdboston617
@pattygale: Why? Why can’t she have a “girls only” strip show? Who cares. Seriously.
dbmcvey
It’s a great way to insure that no one goes to her review.
jdboston617
@jbone14: Agreed. The article is making an issue out of a non-issue. Intentionally stirring the pot unnecessarily.
In the context of a stripper, men/women want to be turned on. If the stripper is gay or bi (as would the audience think if he were playing/stripping to both sexes). And the fact is that will turn off some women/men. And that’s understandable. We are talking booty here, not job equality, so the illusion of a beefy/strong/heterosexual man is needed for many female clients to get into the suspension of disbelief (AKA that the stripper wants the woman).
So who gives a crap? We have more than enough strippers in the gay clubs.
JoeyRamone
@jdboston617: Her response made her sound like just another homophobic black chick raised on the church and men that don’t stick around. (Oh, no, chile, back your ass down on that don’t want none of that sugar at my place, you feel me.)
Maybe Kim Burrell will be making a guest appearance. Lord knows that whore needs some publicity :/
verbaltopman
Aw gee. You mean I can’t go watch male strippers in a room full of drunk women bellowing that annoying “WOOOOOOOOOOO” every five seconds? Gosh, how *will* I go on?
Charlie in Charge
Well, I can understand that she wants to create a certain experience and have it be all ladies. Sure all right she can set the tone as she likes. The enthusiasm with which she makes her case – ah well… having seen her recent contribution to the arts by way of Sharknado 2… well subtlety is just not for everyone.
On a side note, Vegas just has very, very little to offer gay folks. With as much glitz and unrefined glam as the city aspires to you would think it would be able to embrace it outside of its Liberace museum.
Ken A.
It is not homophobic to want something just for a certain gender. I have no issue with it being exclusively for women. The attitude behind it, may by a little questionable. There is no need to create drama with this silly article that I fell for, gays have exclusive things, straights have exclusive things. BUT I could see an issue if a group of males wanted an exclusive boys club, being called misogynistic if they didn’t allow women.
kennedy220
People are commenting on her tone but her tone is always like that . It’s not a big deal. Let the ladies have something for themselves. There is space for that. We have our spaces. I’ve gotten me to make reviews like that and men weren’t allowed past the carpet
ddevine
I don’t blame her. I HATE the new “straight Barbie girls overrun gay clubs” and when I see them I want to spit nails. They don’t belong in our clubs. They have the entire WORLD at their disposal, we do not. So the same goes for this place when the tables are turned. It is for straight women to enjoy the company of straight men. I respect that.
JW
I also do not have a problem with Vivica’s position on this as well. I know for a fact that four of the male dancers that are featured has made it very clear that they will not dance/perform for gay audience…just women. Therefore, because this is a business venture that is targeted towards ladies night..then you have to appease the clientele that you are pursuing. Besides…there are clubs in my city that have the same policy for their ladies night that will not allow gay patrons to enter during the shows. Also..Vivica is not homophobic.
jdboston617
@JoeyRamone: I do feel you, but that’s not what she said and that’s what I’m basing my comments on. I’m not a mind reader.
Kenny Jimno
Who’s Vivica Fox?
Stilinski26
Is Queerty gonna talk about their “lord saviour” canoodling with Sultan of Brunei who criminalized homosexuality
Kieran
I don’t know what she looks like in real life, but that picture looks like a trans woman or is it trans man. Whatever. No wonder she’s cranky.
solacesoul
I’m totally fine with this. The fat loud obnoxious hags can also steer clear of clubs, bars and strip nights meant for gay men as well.
Brian
I see there are some Uncle Tom gays supporting Vivica Fox’s right to discriminate. Typical.
It’s interesting how female strip clubs encourage female patrons to attend.
Perhaps the problem is the bisexual double standard. Women see male homosexual desire as a threat if both she and he are competing for a male stripper’s lust. Men see women who claim to lust after women as threesome bait.
In the meantime I’ll boycott Lifetime
bigrawtop
@jbone14: The problem is there aren’t many that male strip acts targeted towards men. I respect the girls night out, but give the boys a night out too.
Let’s see how this holds up legally if she trys to deny men into the club or not hire gay dancers. There are discrimination lawa in place.
I have been the sole guy before a couple of times in LA clubs. They can’t legally deny you. Her best offer is to give the guys there time.
Sergii Duka
I really don’t understand her. I mean if she plans to turn those straight strippers into prostitutes then I agree it will be hard to force gays into this. But if the actual sexual intercourse is not involved, what’s the difference between gays and straights?
Gina
I don’t really think what she said was homophobic, but I do think it was gratuitously stupid. The LGBTQ community is often the object of a sort of unconscious, “environmental” disrespect by straight people who aren’t deliberately prejudiced against us, but who grew up and lived in social circumstances where, “faggot,” “fairy, and “queer,” were commonly used negative adjectives. A lot of straight people simply haven’t fully acclimated to automatically respecting our ways of life.
Realitycheck
Who cares, straight girls are not allowed in gay bars and most strippers are gay anyway….next!
Deb Equality
Really? Who gives a shit what Vivica Fox wants or thinks. She’s yesterday’s news, and she was never in my news bin anyway.
David Bolton
Those wonderful bachelorette parties SURE DO LOVE to come into the gay clubs though. They’ve made Bourbon Street such a great time now.
Captain Obvious
Oh the one hand I think I get what she was trying to say because women don’t really have a lot of strip clubs or whatever to go to for a girls night. On the other hand she sounded quite nasty about it like she thinks we’re gross or something.
But all that said I think Queerty is probably twisting her words because she is on Empire getting that Empire money and she wouldn’t dare bite Lee Daniels hand like that. I’m not gonna get up in arms about it.
tim_smith
Who the heck is Vivica Fox? She looks like one of those loudmouth “you go girl” black women on THE REAL!! Looks like someone starved for attention any way she can get it!
plazaro1
Are we supposed to care? They will all be gay, believe you me.
Prinny
Meh
Aromaeus
I’ll give her the benefit of the doubt and just assume her tone was more pointed than intended. I’m all for women having their own strip clubs and it wouldn’t be the first of it’s kind.
Kevan1
@Realitycheck: I personally have never been to gay bar that did not allow Str8 girls with one exception. The exception was a hardcore leather bar in New O’rleans in the late 80’s.
I agree with “IQGrande” the video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LwSseoSd4g) shows her distaste for gays I would be worried if I were her as well, who knows what a dancer might prefer I hot young man instead of an older than dirt B Queen. I mean that VJJ has probably a been on more Hollywood couches than a pasture full of cows. I guess some gay guy did her wrong. Whatever.
She would make much more if she included Gay dollars as well. Maybe she is a B Queen because of her lack of insight.
Brian
Let’s create a club where we ban blacks from entering. We’ll put up a “no blacks allowed” sign out front and tell our doormen to stop blacks who might try to enter.
Brian
You hysterical queens are a sight to behold. You are hypocrites of the first order.
You go around crying “discrimination” if a baker refuses to bake you a wedding cake but here you are playing your little political games and excusing a black woman’s apparent prejudice towards gays.
If Vivica Fox were Mike Pence, you’d all be screaming blue murder at how homophobic it all is.
bigrawtop
I love strip shows and yes, I don’t like seeing them with women, because they hog the lime light and the dancers -gay or straight -play into their enthusiasm. Men and women respond differently to strippers -women scream and are touch shy; men are quiet and handsy. Women go to tip; men go to touch, which is why they cater to females.
I don’t mind having separate events and charging a cover for the men’s show since we may tip less. Also a shop designed for men is different than one for women, may be more raunchy.
DISQUS
Discrimination. Are guns allowed? Might want to start there first.
JPinNC
Not excited about her tone…but I’m glad at least there is a show out there that doesn’t consist of 10 white guys and 1 obligatory black guy. Who cares if men can’t see them dance? Shows like Chippendales, Thunder from Down under among others are the same.. no one is complaining about them.
whatdawhat22
That’s quite alright. I am just as upset when drunk bachelorettes over run the gay male strip clubs so let her keep her Vegas review. I wasn’t checking for it anyway!
Brian
@JPinNC: You should be questioning female privilege, not accommodating it.
Women are not banned from attending female strip shows so why are you OK with men being banned from attending male strip shows?
You appear to be the classic case of somebody who goes along with a double standard.
Brian
I get that she wants to create a ladies-only space, but wasn’t there some other way to say so? She was so unnecessarily emphatic about excluding gay men. A long string of no no no no no…. This is a fun and silly topic, so there had to be some way to make light of it all. Say something nice. Instead, she was kinda gross.
batesmotel
I’ve never known Vivica Fox to be anti-gay before. Although it’s not like her response was anti-gay, she just said these men dance for women only. It’s like Chippendale’s.
batesmotel
Vivica Fox did apologize to anyone that happened to be offended by her response reaction and said, “AGREED dawling! Never my intention to offend the LBGT community! That’s why I’m woman to apologize.”
batesmotel
Vivica Fox also said to one gay men who said he guesses he can’t come now, “U can come! Never my intention to offend or exclude anyone!”
ppp111
@whatdawhat22:
I know right? I think it’s because many straight women know that many straight clubs, more or less, want to get as many women in their clubs so the guys will follow. That’s my take anyway. What would explain all these ladies nights that clubs always have. They want the women there so men will go there and willingly pay.
@Brian:
I think she could have stated it better saying something to the effect that she wants to create an environment where women can be comfortable with each other ogling men. But that attitude she gave just irked me but hey it’s her business, not mine.
DarkZephyr
@Captain Obvious: I’m with you on this. I wasn’t appreciative of the tone but I don’t care that she wants the review to be ladies only. And she has apologized on Twitter so I am all good with her. Honestly we have REAL enemies to worry about right now.
mark_demry
Vivica who? 😉
Craig
That’s okay, Chippendales and Thunder From Down Under male revues are in Las Vegas as well and both are welcoming of men and women attending their shows.
bearfuzzlover
Fortunately, on this side of the Pond, I have never heard of her, but who appears to have been a B-List never-was-a-star… and now a Z-list never-was-anything… other than a dead loss.
With what seems to be a gross lack of intelligence, does she seriously believe anyone going to be watching her as an over-the-hill never-was-a-star prancing around… except, maybe, other over-the-hill fans who watched her the first time around?
Maybe she has not got the message… that she ought to have retired a long time ago when she was ahead as a B-List nobody, and now she has has advanced to being a Z-list nobody, so now is as good a time as any for her to sit back in her rocking chair, take it easy and start to knit until the end of time!
maxdadmark
@AxelDC: simple, you don’t bring your purse, because she’ll leave her ham hocks and watermelon out of sight.
SonOfKings
What’s the problem? “Ladies Night Out” means just that, a special experience FOR WOMEN. There are plenty of spaces and places for us Gay men to have our fun. I’ve met Vivica in person, and she’s a gracious, pro-gay lady. The remarks about her age are vicious and irrelevant.
DISQUS
Discrimination. Start with no guns allowed please.
Neonegro
“It’s called the ultimate girls night out for a reason.”
Keep screaming homophobia at every little thing and people stop listening.
Masc Pride
I don’t really find this as outrageous as Graham wants it to be. However, a lot of male strippers tend to be rather “flexible” in the sexual orientation department. Bet a few of her guys wouldn’t mind dancing for men.
Daniel-Reader
There are girls in gay bars because a) there are a lot of great girls, and b) public accommodations in Nevada are bound by nondiscrimination laws. As for other public accommodations, I think her lawyer would have told her using gender or sexual orientation to exclude customers in a commercial establishment is a no-go in Nevada.
Brian
I am so annoyed at all these women who exploit double standards to obtain privileges. On the one hand, they oppose sexism and discrimination. On the other, they go along with sexism and discrimination if they perceive them as being advantageous.
Message to women in general: we men of all sexual stripes are going to stop you from obtaining privileges.
richard2179
Already done (Philadelphia 2016)
Frankie James
OlLD Has been !
PRINCE OF SNARKNESS aka DIVKID
Tone is everything..and he showed her true ugly ass. But cue the apologists and deflectors with their own agendas
PRINCE OF SNARKNESS aka DIVKID
*”she” but then again…
stanpaske
I get that she does not want to encourage gay. I respect that position.
“I like to cater to my female clientele.” “I support women having fun.”
But to say no to business and money is more limiting and negative than one thinks or realizes. There are plenty of parties that have girls and “gerls”. Her position limits or denies these parties.
For those saying we bitch about women at are reviews…we do, but we still let them come and have fun despite them. We bitch…we do not say no! We are pissed that our gay-for-pay boys have something to play. But we do not say, “Hell no!” There is a difference. We reserve the right to bitch. We do not reserve the right to deny or omit. Fuck the HELL OFF.
Vivica! Ignore us. Pretend we are not there. We will complain. But we both win. And that is good for business. You position is a killer! Especially for you!
brent_thibault
REALLY! Who gives a SH1T about Viv. Wipe all that makeup off and her weave, YIKES. The dead would run. As will everyone from her tired show in Vegas. NEXT
cabe
This is what I dont get: There is an all nude gay strip club called Ziegfrieds in DC that is supposed to be for gay men (they play gay porn on the monitors) – AND YET – is filled w/ straight women. Hearing straight women shrieking at nude guys is a buzz kill for me but the owners have told me that by law, they have to allow EVERYONE in.
Shouldn’t the same rule apply here? Can she discriminate against Asian women or the disabled too?
Double F-ing standard
cabe
@SonOfKings:
I’ve been to several strip clubs specifically catering for gay men that are overrun by straight women. Its annoying but these clubs have to admit EVERYONE by law.
There is no way she can get away w/ discriminating who she lets in. If your local pub said “No blacks” wouldn’t most people have a fit?
cabe
@DarkZephyr:
The reason this pisses me of b/c I used to like going to the all nude stip bar Ziegfields in DC. Now I go and its 60% straight women. Total buzzkill. People have asked the owner if he can do anything about it and he said no, by law he has to let everyone in. \
Even though I would have zero interest in this type of show, it’s amazing that she thinks she can get away w/ this double standard BS.
cabe
@Captain Obvious:
Women have plenty of strip clubs to go to – they have taken over all of the full nude gay strip clubs across the country.
petert
@jbone14:
The problem is that it is illegal to discriminate and say you only want certain people in your club. I used to go to a gay strip club in Portland that was overrun by straight women. I found it a turn-off but the managers had to let them in. Same thing w/ regular gay bars – they are overrun by straight women but you cant discriminate. Why does Vivica think she can get a hall pass? Double standard and ILLEGAL.
stanhope
I’d call her old ass a has been but since she never was, I can’t. Isn’t this the same cow that had her tongue up 50 cent’s love canal? Talk about a nasty visual. Well Miss V, not to worry, those men aren’t that hot…all but one have decent enough bodies but, as it happens, gays have raised the bar higher than these dudes. Have at it mother. BTW, hire a stylist that knows how to oil a body for photography.
stanhope
@stanpaske: Didn’t kenya moore kick this heifer’s ass? LO
GaybyGod
No Gays allowed?!! Is Putin, Pence and Trump going to be strutting their stuff around? Of course, that would explain them not wanting Gays in the audience. I’ll pass.
Jack Meoff
I can’t imagine anything worse than going to an male strip review full of screeching braying fat suburban women pawing at overly manicured muscle men and making fools of themselves. No gays allowed = no problem.
graphicjack
Here’s the way around this… have a Men’s night just for gay men, just like many gay strip clubs have ladies nights. I agree that there can be ways to get around these things. I don’t mind if a straight woman comes to a gay bar with a gay friend, but a huge group of straight woman going to a gay club? Hell no, bitches… back that shit up. Straight women have a huge sense of entitlement in gay bars. They shove us around without excusing themselves, get loud and wasted, spill their drinks on us and start pawing at as. It’s gross. They treat us the way straight men treat them and it’s not okay. I should get the security staff to kick them out the next time
I see this. In my city of 1 mil. People we have two gay bars now… compared to the hundreds or thousands of ones for straight people. Get out of my one of two spaces I have left where I don’t need to deal with obnoxious straight people.
Keebler ILF
“In 2015, she insinuated her ex, rapper 50 Cent, was gay because he enjoyed rim jobs, and said he looked like a gay “booty snatcher” in a photoshoot he did with Soulja Boy for Vibe magazine.”
You sure it wasn’t XXL Magazine? goo.gl/3x2nDE
Kangol
She’s probably got gay men on the stage stripping so they’ll be in the room, believe me. GIRL? GIRL, NO, NO!!!??? LOL
IanHunter
The bitch has no career. This her desperate attempt to get a pay check.
PRINCE OF SNARKNESS aka DIVKID
Too many gurrrls overidentifying with these bitches …and you don’t have to be “Brian” (literally dis-ordered “brain”) to know they ain’t got your best interests at heart. Punch & delete (metaphorically)
alanballs
Wouldn’t go even if it were open to me….and I’m often in Vegas. Nice she’s providing sexual entertainment to heterosexual women though. No need to be bitchy about announcing her “no gays allowed” policy. Surely that includes the male strippers (?)
IDoNotHaveToAgreeWithYou
So basically this tried up old ho is stealing not only the idea of but the name of Channing Tatum’s movie to make her last buck. He needs to sue her but all he’d get would be old horse hair weaves.
broadshoulder
@Gina: Sorry Gina – stick up for the straight community all you want – but they were homophobic terms
Stick up for the straight community. We are not idiots. It makes you look a fool.
Sluggo2007
Who cares? I ain’t down with brown anyway.
Chris
She can’t act her way out of a paper bag. AND. Doesn’t she realize most male dancers are gay?!
BosBro
Really? That’s homophobia? She can’t just want to have a venue for women? Please! Let her have her place for all the hen parties (bachelorette parties) to go to so they can stop ruining the few gay bars that remain.
reallygoodthings
No gays? Where is she going to get dancers?
arj
Who is this biatch and why should I care? She reminds me of Nauseous Nyasha of A-List NY fame.
GayEGO
So what is her point? Frankly I could care less, she will face these problems she created, not I.
SonOfKings
Race and gender are not equivalents. There are plenty of gyms for women only and no one seems to mind. I used to go to a tri-leveled bar in Toronto that would not admit women beyond the second floor (gay men were having sex on the third floor). Let the girls have their own party. We don’t be all up in their business everywhere, do we?
mrzodiac2003
Nobody needs her stupid show any way. But she gonna do about her gay male stoppers? Not gonna have much of a show without them.
larrylautz
What’s her test to make sure her strippers aren’t gay?
DarkZephyr
@cabe: I can see your point. Unfortunately most states still allow discrimination based on sexual orientation. So she might still be able to keep gay me out even if she can’t legally keep straight men out. However, she has since apologized and has said on Twitter the gay men can come. Yes, her initial tone was bitchy. But we truly do have worse enemies out there. Donald Trump is coming into the White House, and 99% of the people he’s nominating to his cabinet are massive homophobes, and he intends to nominate massive homophobes to the Supreme Court of the United States. We are in for a very bumpy ride and it’s not because of Strip clubs for women only.
ppp111
@DarkZephyr:
Excellent point. when all is said and done, the more important battles will be the coming years with this new administration. This is small stuff.
Neonegro
@Brian: I would be fine with it but your government won’t allow it.
Here is an idea, create a private cultural club and call it the sons of Ireland or the sons of the british isles…..that might give you more room to fly under the radar.
For example, we have all black sex parties in NY and Atlanta and other places. They don’t say no whites or no Hispanics…but by calling it Nubian nights sends a clear message to potential non-black trespassers.
The problem is created by blacks and other non-whites searching for whites.
Neonegro
@larrylautz: She never said anything about the strippers. The audience does not care about the real sexuality of the dancers.
It is a show and they are actors. Of course they will keep the effeminate dancers out….lol
Herman75
She’s clearly an entertainment mogul, having hosted the Lifetime show Prank My Mom. Thx Qweartee. How did I miss THAT one?
[email protected]
Queerty! always seems to dish the tea but in fact takes comments out of context, and then puts them into some hate bashing dialogue.. Then they turn around and “Update” and try to clear it up by presenting the actual conversation.
Vivica answered a question honestly. Her TV show is about women having fun and enjoying strippers. Would Queerty raise the flag if a dumb question like this was asked to the gay bachelor series creator, “Um, ‘scuse me but are you going to have a straight woman compete for Mr. Gay Bachelor’s attentions too?” The answer would be the same.
Queerty, love you but find some real news and not some “reality tv” version of it. We can’t continue alienating everyone.
willywill
She didn’t say any of this as reported. Just like someone posted above about a gay dating show, the response would be similar.
DarkZephyr
@ppp111: amen
@[email protected]: she answered the question honestly…and bitchily. It was her tone that a lot of people had a problem with. That being said, as you can see many of us are cool with her right now. She did apologize and I think it’s time for this to stop being Queerty’s main headline. This is day 3 now.
Zen
First thing that comes to mind for me since I’m on a Curb Your Enthusiasm jag is why would Larry David hire this woman to be in his show? I’m pretty, pretty, disappointed.
Louis
I could care less about watching a bunch of uneducated neanderthal men who have an issue with being near gay men much less acknowledging their existence and yes they do not want to dance for gay men they made that perfectly clear recently.
Vivicas response was offensive as well as incendiary and no I do not think of her as an ALLY just a fair weather friend the type whom claim to support us yet mock us behind the scenes and when asked if her so called lgbt friends could possibly come to the show her defensive and offensive response spoke for itself.
Bye Vivica Id rather follow actual allies like Lady Gaga Dolly Parton and Kristen Chenoweth thank you very much.
John
No worries. I am glad to know that she is upfront and honest about it. I wish more “gay bars” would hire “gay strippers” or have “gay only” night. I leave many nights because of those shrill females who come in for achelorette parties. More power to you Vivaca.