It was just so inappropriate. Nobody wanted to have this conversation. Especially on this cute little reality show where we all had to live together for weeks on end.
Adam Rippon speaking to The Daily Beast’s “Obsessed” podcast about Stars on Mars castmate Lance Armstrong’s remarks about trans athletes.
I’m not afraid of having difficult conversations. But if we’re going to fully open that particular conversation, I want trans athletes [present], I want people who are doing research into this [to be there], and people who are real proponents of seeing women’s sports succeed.
I don’t need to hear what the greatest cheater in American history has to say about what he thinks is an unfair advantage.
Jim
Lance has no balls
Enough said
Diplomat
Diplomat
That’s so funny: “Your otherizing people” by not allowing trans women with testicles on women’s sports teams and therefore wanting them to have their own category. Perfect Armstrong, you speak for rational thought. You must be from Sweden, the forerunner on trans rights that have never allowed trans women on bio women’s sports teams. Like, duh.
Trans, so self centered so self serving and psychoticly selfish. Only thinking from their own myopic point of view or spinning out in rage when they don’t get their way i.e. like 4 year olds screaming and running amock down the isles of a supermarket. Good those days are ending bc people aren’t buying your nauseating brand of bullshit anymore.
abfab
”Only thinking from their own myopic point of view ”
One more nail in your coffin, Diplomat.
Eternal.Cowboy
I would think that Gov. Desantis would be more focused on his floundering presidential bid than posting on Queerty.
Diplomat
Your attitudes are why you are losing the game. Please, do continue…
abfab
This isn’t a game. And you’re a sad excuse for a man.
barryaksarben
why the screen name? it has nothing to do with you as you are straight up troll asshole. I embrace and support all trans, gay queer humans as people are all just trying to be happy except for the right who are all small dick jealousy of others. Stop trying to harm others pig. GFY. we all know who the trolls are here but do you know how many of us are on your right wing sites throwing shade your kind is too stupid to ever catch on. bigots are the worst things on this planet and that means you girl
abfab
Diplomat is talking to Diplomat above. No surprise there. Diplomat belngs in the laundrymat….for like a year.
Bosch
“Perfect Armstrong, you speak for rational thought.”
The man who used hormones to gain a competitive edge has opinions about other athletes using hormones.
Where was the rationality when he was shooting up?
Diplomat
I think it’s time to give it a test on that issue. He paid the price. He’s square on on this issue. Trans need their own sports teams or stay on their same sex teams and shut the fuk up.
Bosch
And what of petite transwomen who used puberty blockers in early adolescence? They won’t have any of the physical advantages. In fact, their physical development will be behind that of their age-group. They would have a disadvantage compared to cis women.
Do we put them on the men’s team too?
I think this issue is much more complicated than “all transwomen on the women’s team” or “all transwomen on the men’s team”.
monty clift
Armstrong isn’t in a position to criticize anyone about “fairness,” given his history of being a cheater.
abfab
Why? You cheat. That isn’t you in that photo. That is def not fair to Mr. Clift or his estate.
Diplomat
Monty can be a bit rough around the edges but the real question is, didn’t yo mama change yo diaper today str8 boy? You smel’n up the room somethin fierce.
Darson
But at least he cheated in his appropriate category. If he chose he could slap on a wig and some lip stick and compete against real women and beat them and be a hero to tens of people.
monty clift
Looks like Queerty’s resident GOP troll is in need of attention again. @abfab is so tedious.
monty clift
@Darson, Perhaps, but two wrongs don’t make a right. Besides, Armstrong is a fraud, so his opinion on the matter is irrelevant. It would be better to hear it from female athletes.
abfab
Monty. Do something useful. Post your real name, your real photo and your address. Then share your wisdom with us. Thank god you have someone to hide behind, Mr Clift.
missvamp
he really mad an ass out of himself. he had no business going on the show, much less opening his mouth on a controversial subject. he should have just left the hab the next chance he got. idiot.
PoetDaddy
Lance Armstrong should keep his lying mouth shut and keep his bigotry to himself. He’s lucky anyone tolerates him being in the room!
xanadude
AMEN! Basketball scouts look for grossly tall players, pretty much every sport has a history of doping, swimmers shave all their body hair, etc…. to me there is ZERO difference between that and a trans athlete. A body type (which is mostly what fits you in to a sport category) is a body type. There are women stronger than men, and vice versa. Trans men are men. Trans women are women. Nobody is trying to “cheat” or “fool” anyone, just live their honest lives.
Openminded
Obviously basketball scouts look for the tallest players, DUH. There are rules against doping that make it illegal in sports. Many people believe rules should be implemented in sports making it illegal for people born bio males to play against bio females. IF these rules are implemented, then that will become as forbidden in sports as doping. Swimmers shaving their body hair is a lame argument, period. There is a HUGE difference between bio males and bio women. Cutting your penis off, growing out your hair, and getting breast implants doesn’t change the bio part of it. I want to support Trans Rights, but, when it comes to sports I have a hard time seeing bio men taking trophies from bio women in sports matches.
[email protected]
Biological men should not be allowed to compete in women’s sports simply because they have an unfair advantage. More muscle…larger lung capacity etc. that’s not transphobia…that’s a fact
LumpyPillows
They won’t listen. The misogyny is strong with the rabid gender radicals.
abfab
Wow.
Bosch
I’m curious; does everyone also have opinions about whether trans men should compete with other men?
abfab
Keep the questions very simple and on a second grade level for the GOP TROLLS.
LumpyPillows
Sure, they have no advantage. They don’t, however, because the same reality that says trans men have an unfair advantage over women, trans men can’t hope to be good enough.
Bosch
Would you agree then that transwomen can play on women’s darts teams? There is no sex-based benefit in darts; it’s not about strength or size, but about coordination and kinetics.
abfab
Lumpy….are you good enough? You come across as confused and agitated. You are so not helpful in your explantations. Why do you do it? What do you gain?
LumpyPillows
“Greatest cheater in American history”? Please. Lance is right, sorry to spoil the gang bang.
abfab
That superlative will always belong to Trump.
Bosch
“Lance is right”
Whether or not he’s right, he’s still a hypocrite. Intentionally used hormones to gain an advantage in his sport.
Diplomat
So loving legislating trans “women” w testies who demean real women, into oblivion. It’s back to Hell time str8 boys. Mission failed.
Bosch
I don’t think it’s fair for you to judge all trans people by the behaviour of trans athletes.
Didn’t you say you were a psychologist?
Diplomat
I don’t judge all trans people, just the shit stirrers that hate and demean women and bust into their private spaces. I’m aware there are plenty who don’t but they need to step up to the plate and defend lesbians and str8 women from these str8 male “women” zealots. But they won’t and that makes them complicit. Just like gay men who support this druel through quiet chior boy behavior, same thing.
Bosch
“but they need to step up to the plate and defend lesbians and str8 women from these str8 male “women” zealots.”
They’re too busy defending themselves from the rampant transphobia that’s been resurging since 2016.
abfab
My niece is such a lovely person. I hope she never has to meet the likes of you, dip.
You are a dispicable person who knows close to nothing about the society in which we find ourselves today. I hope you find peace and love someday. Not holding my breath.
abfab
”just the shit stirrers that hate and demean women and bust into their private spaces”
Do you even hear yourself?
Diplomat
Bosch,
The transphobia is the direct result of str8 trans women with testicles pushing nasty predatory behaviors towards real women, their sports teams and their private spaces designed just for real women. Their game plan just backfired. Do you see that?
inbama
Diplomat,
It’s not the male-attracted transsexuals (that gay men know) who been part of the movement since day one.
The ideology and the industry are all controlled by the hetero-male crossdressers, aka. autogynephiliacs. People like Jennifer Pritzger – billionaire Republican male – who didn’t care about LGBT rights until she decided that cross-dressing wasn’t enough and want to be lesbians. This is how the “woman with penis” was born in the 21st century. Her foundation funds wings of hospitals across the country and gotten her a seat on the MAYO clinic board. Last year she cut a $15 million check to the ACLU to protect her puberty blocker clinics.
Another powermad wealthy AGP is Martine Rothblatt who made her fortune by creating Serius Radio. Brilliant person, but she has plans which are in her book on Amazon: “From Transgender to Transhuman: A Manifesto On the Freedom Of Form”
And this is what Lia Thomas is who now sports an ANTIFA t-shirt. Armstrong may have been the 20th century’s biggest cheater, but Lia is the 21st’s.
It’s hetero-trans who started calling lesbians TERFs for refusing their “ladydicks.” And we gay men betrayed our own sisters and let them do it.
Diplomat
Inbama,
It’s incredible how str8 male trans “women” w testies think they can buy off the binary natural order wrecking women in the process. It’s pure evil in my playbook.
decrans
Yup. But according to Dave Matthews (aka Dmb, aka, Biden’s personal neoliberal ballsack licker), first wave feminists are fully on board with this.
abfab
lomat.
Do you see it? Take snapshots and send them. You have this thing for making stuff up. Prove it.
inbama
decrans,
American feminists have their backs against the wall as the party that stands for their rights can no longer acknowledge their existence.
Huron132
Adam is right. That’s why the US is going up in flames. People who have no idea, experience, or have knowledge of something speaks out about a subject. You need to STFU. I don’t care what you have to say if you can’t back up your words with actual solid proof. You are a lier and a cheater.
still_onthemark
Biden is right on this issue: Government should not get involved. Leave it up to a sport’s governing body to decide what’s an unfair advantage. In the case of cycling it’s an international organization anyway, so unilateral action by the U.S. wouldn’t even work.
Also, keep in mind that sports are just NOT that important!
Openminded
“Also, keep in mind that sports are just NOT that important!”
AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!! But the subject distracts everyone from the real issues that need addressing.
Diplomat
It’s very important to women who lose their awards they have worked a lifetime for to trans “women” like obviously towering male “Lia” William Thomas. The guy stripped buck naked in the girls locker room causing sheer panic and fear among the girls. Do you really support such vile behavior?
still_onthemark
@Diplomat: It’s up to the NCAA to decide if Lia Thomas has an unfair advantage. So far they haven’t.
Diplomat
Still,
NCAA can be bought meaning it’s up to us to hold their feet to the fire. Are you going to answer my question?
still_onthemark
@Diplo: Yes, you should direct your concerns to the NCAA. Okay, at a personal level I sorta kinda agree with you, but I really don’t care enough to complain to the NCAA about it. You do.
abfab
@diplomat
Are you a woman who lost awards that you have worked a lifetime for? Be honest. If not, shut the fik up. My god, you’re so tired. One thing is clear……………………..something dreadful happened to you along the way. Get help.
inbama
still_onthemark
There are now two highly sympathetic girls from Thomas’s swim team making talk show, podcast and state legislature rounds.
We are so lucky that DeSantis is such a total asshole, but these issues are not going away even after his campaign sinks in his own swamp. The actual science and public opinion is on the more conservative side, and they’ve got some politicians like Texas’ Dan Crenshaw who can discuss it intelligently.
Openminded
@ Abfab, If ONLY LGBTQ people could voice concern and support for this community, we would be nowhere. Just because it isn’t happening to me is no reason not to get involved.
still_onthemark
@Diplomat: Are all of us experts on swimming physiology? I’m uneasy with your “It’s up to us” attitude. For one thing your opponents have the exact same attitude, they think “it’s up to us” LGBs to support a blanket endorsement of all trans women everywhere to compete against all non-trans women everywhere.
JRamonMc
You go Adam!!!! Couldn’t have said it better.
Thad
Lia Thomas has graduated and is no longer swimming competitively.
SO…there now seem to be NO transgender student-athletes n the NCAA.
So much for breaking all the records and winning all the medals. “Congratulations” on erasing such people.