You might think that with so much time in the headlines, Caitlyn Jenner would figure out a way to stick to a message.
Such is not the case, and while we typically don’t scrutinize every off-putting thing she says, her recent appearance on Fox News proved exceptionally discordant.
Speaking with Tucker Carlson, Caitlyn in a single breath denounced her widely publicized support for Trump during the 2016 campaign while defended voting for him, and capped it off by spreading the utter nonsense that she thought Trump would somehow be great on LGBTQ issues once he was in office.
“I never actually came out and outwardly supported Trump. The media did that for me,” she said.
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Well that’s a good soundbite (when in doubt, blame the media), except that when Trump became the presumptive GOP nominee in 2016, Caitlyn sang a different tune:
“Everybody looks at the Democrats as being better with these issues. But Trump seems to be very much for women,” she said. “He seems very much behind the LGBT community because of what happened in North Carolina with the bathroom issue. He backed the LGBT community.”
Anyone looking at the full campaign picture — and with all her money and connections, Caitlyn certainly had the opportunity to look — knew that the “Trump is an ally” narrative was just plain false. It took, oh, three days of him being in office for that to become painfully clear.
But Jenner still went on to stir up this word soup for Carlson about how it’s totally natural that she voted for him:
“I’m on the Republican conservative side. And he wound up being our candidate. And so certainly I was going to vote for him. He looked like he would be pretty good on all LGBT issues, which is important, because my loyalties do not lie with Donald Trump. My loyalties do not lie with the Republican party. My loyalties and what I am fighting for is my community, the LGBT community and particularly the trans issues that are out there, because there are many of them. And so that’s where my fight is. I thought Trump would be pretty good. But he’s kind of disappointed me in the first 100 days.”
Aw, Caitlyn’s “kind of disappointed.” If only her first choice in the race, Ted Cruz, could have won. He’d have done a stellar job lifting up the LGBT community, don’t you think?
Watch the interview below:
https://youtu.be/faSr1eN79tg
KaiserVonScheiss
Trump is the most pro-LGBT candidate the GOP have ever nominated. He may not be all that you want. But he did call same-sex marriage “settled law.”
I know people are going to come on here and talk about Pence or the company Trump keeps, but that’s politics.
The man ain’t perfect. I was supporting Rand Paul. I don’t consider myself a Republican, nor do I even like the GOP or the religious aspects of the party, but I generally despise the Democrats. It’s a two-party system. I wish it weren’t. I wish we had real choice, but we don’t.
Mo Bro
It’s true the GOP has sold out to the fundamentalist Christians, just as the Democrats have been taken over by the far-far left . . . which leaves us with someone like Trump in the White House, and unless he screws up big-time, I’m going to give him every benefit of the doubt I also gave Barack Obama his first year.
Hermes
@Mo Bro — The FAR FAR LEFT? Are you out of your mind? There are a few of us who ARE far Left – but not many. The Far Far Left is a fantasy of the Right. I donated to Trump, BECAUSE I figured he was the best the GOP had to offer and much better than Cruz, about whom I wrote an article; and frankly I still do; BUT please, don’t say silly things like “the far far Left” own the Democratic party, because the only thing that statement shows is that you have no idea at all of what the far far Left, or the far Left, or frankly even the Left believes, because you are elevating the Liberal Centrists, which is what American liberals are – to the status of “far far Left” – and they do not belong there. If you are going to talk politics, at least know your terms.
DCguy
Oh Look, Keiser and Mo Bro, two screenames from the same person responding to each other.
Kaiser, two things.
1. You’re a liar, because you leave out the part that Trump specifically stated he would appoint judges to overturn that “Terrible Gay Marriage Decision” IF you are going to try to make a point, you make it obvious you know you’re lying when you leave out the full story.
2. If you claim that Trump is the most Pro-LGBT candidate the GOP has ever nominated, AND he stated he would appoint judges to overturn lgbt civil rights, then that isn’t showing that Trump is good. It just shows everybody how pathologically bigoted the GOP is.
barkomatic
@Hermes. While the far left may not have taken over the Democratic Party as MoBro suggests, they are certainly controlling the narrative. Extremists on college campuses are writing letters to the major newspapers rationalizing that free speech needs to be more limited “for the public good”. Those who oppose them–even other liberals–are guilty of hate speech and need to be shut down. I’m not just talking about crazy right wingers like Ann Coulter either but anyone who does not hold an increasingly narrow range of acceptable views. There are even those that believe that groups of people shouldn’t even be allowed to contribute to certain discussions or hold opinions unless they are part of the marginalized group being discussed. In the past I would say these types were on the fringe and not particularly influential, but they just aren’t anymore. I’m hoping that the Democratic Party can be more unifying than it was in the last election.
Mo Bro
@Hermes:
Throw shade if you must, but when the Dems elect the likes of Pelosi (house), Schumer (senate), and Perez (DNC) to lead them, then yes, they have fallen into the realm of “far-far” left. They might not be bombing universities like the Weather Underground or the Black Panthers did, but their politics are borderline Marxist.
ladyvader
Mo Bro none of the people you listed are remotely far left left.
As a matter of fact, the Dems are center-right, not far left.
I always chuckle at the projection and deflection conservatives like to throw out there.
inbama
Uh, guys, you’re arguing with somebody whose screen name translates to “Emporer of Sh-t.”
MacAdvisor
Trump is likely the best Republican President we are going to have for several decades, but that is rather like suggesting Rudolf Hess is better on the Jewish Question than Heinrich Himmler. May be true, but a difference that makes no difference is not a difference.
cabe
It seems sad that some of the gay community is willing to settle fro crumbs and think Trump is amazing b/c he said gay marriage is settled law. You do know that he and his peeps are drafting up a doozie of a First Amendment Freedom Act (like Pence authored in Indiana) which will allow legal discrimination of gays for supposed religious concerns. In any event, whether you like the Democrats or not, through the ages they have been the ones to support the gay community. The Republicans have done *ZERO* for the gay community
Gian85
I voted Trump. I regret it now.
Mo Bro
@Gian1985:
No one believes you voted for Trump, Giancarlo.
whatevz
Caitlyn, Mo Bro, potato, potahto, just another self-loathing loser
Mo Bro
Self-loather? Moi?
If that were the case, I wouldn’t think I’m so a-freaking-mazing.
I love me. EVERYbody loves their Mo Bro, men and women alike.
You would too if you ever laid eyes on me.
Mo Bro
Jenner’s quote seems not so much an endorsement as an observation.
In my ever-so-humble opinion, of course.
Steverino2
People who use IMHO or MoBro’s variation are seldom , if ever.. Humble.
calpoidog
Despite transitioning, she obviously had not left her white hetero male privilege behind.
Welcome to living in the LGBTQ world Caitlin. Welcome to the disappointment from our elected officials we’ve all been living our entire lives. Hilarious that you thought the President who took down the LGBTQ page from the White House website would be “supportive”
Mack
On the first day in office.
KaiserVonScheiss
“white hetero male privilege”
LOL. Racist terms like “white privilege” are why Trump won.
Mo Bro
@Kaiser:
Bingo.
White privilege, BLM, OWS, Code Pink, global warming (or cooling, or whatever), college indoctrination, immigration, reparations, SJWs, etc etc etc . . .
These are the reasons Trump won.
The left’s apoplectic response to his win is why he will win again in 2020.
CanadianGuy62
I’m not sure why this type of “convenient” double-talk is a surprise. Asshole-In-Chief and his minions have mastered it. Even Orwell would be shocked by the unmitigated gall.
Uppity
I’ll be curious to see how the sales go for Jenner’s new book. I’d imagine they won’t be spectacular because the novelty’s worn off and she really has no supporters anymore. Conservatives don’t want to know her, so that’s half the audience gone. And she lost the LGBT community over her lukewarm attitude to gay marriage, supporting Cruz, then Trump etc. She wants to keep making money off her situation though, so we’ll never be free of her.
Donston
I pretty much dismissed Ms Jenner once she dismissed gay marriage/relationships. And ultimately, she’s just as self-absorbed as the rest of the Kardashian clan. Now she’s trying to alter her views and gain more traction with other LGBT people because Trump hasn’t quite been what she wanted him to be and to get coins for a lame book.
Also, those cheek fillers were a mistake.
inbama
Stop picking on Jenner who’s just being her Authentic Self.
It’s a vast improvement over her Unauthentic Self, don’t you think?
Donston
Being your “authentic self” doesn’t absolve all your other issues.
natekerchel
The extreme rightists on here like MO Bro of course would see people like Pelosi as ‘far far left’. I think that he needs to go back and read some books on political theory and political philosophy so that he has a better understanding of what ‘far left’ means. Steverino is right – those who support the far right are never humble – just loud and bigoted and not very well informed. Such is the case here with Jenner. How could any informed and well read person imagine that trump was going to be anything but hostile to lgbt people? He pretended to be pro-lgbt in order to placate and then get some votes from the self-loathing or gullible gays. I am not sure why we listen to this person anyway – I find it difficult to understand how she can claim her loyalties lie with the lgbt community and then vote for the beast. Much like I don’t understand the supposedly gay men on here who forever defend trump, his family and other minions whatever they do – even when it attacking and undermining civil and human rights for lgbt people.
Mo Bro
There is quite literally nothing Trump could do to win your favor, is there?
He could cure AIDS, render greenhouse gases obsolete, open our borders to every minority on the planet, give welfare to everyone who doesn’t want to work, and disarm all cops, and I suspect you’d still be calling him “hostile.”
natekerchel
The headline of this article – liar or fool – applies to both of them.
BustnMyNut
Bruce Jenner is a phucking drag queen, and not a good one, He is no representation of any community I ever have been associated with. He has a dick and always will, he isn’t brave enough to have his dick cut off. Since the beginning of his drag queen life having all the people surrounding him with that “she’s so brave” bullshit is embarrassing and anyone who participated should feel that way and duped as well. To think that those 2 other contenders for that award were snubbed for this freak(shameful) This man who was trapped in a home for 10 years with those soul less bitches as he watched them day in and day out doing their make up gossiping catching the worlds attention(God knows why?) while he paraded around silent it completely drove him mad. He was jealous and wanted a piece of that attention, he did not feel like he was a woman growing up. For people who can not figure it out, Chastity “Chaz” Bono is a REAL transgender, only reason for that example, because people know who he is. He hasn’t done a damn thing to help trans people just made shit worse for all the LGBT community. We need to go back in the closet if it’s gonna take us down by the likes of him.
Me2
The BEST comment on this thread goes to you!! I absolutely agree that this Caitlyn character is not brave, nor is he an ally – despite what his sexual identity may be. I’m extremely disgusted by the media’s constant pushing of this self-absorbed, confused, and deceit-filled man in a dress on us as some sort of noble pillar of strength and integrity. He does the entire LGBT community a disservice and should not be the focal point.
gary69mike
Absolutely agree with BustnMyNut and Me2
Mo Bro
A small aside regarding Tucker Carlson . . .
If anyone is thinking he’s not our ally just because he’s on Fox News, here’s his statement regarding gay marriage:
“I’m just for marriage generally. I’m for people making a lifelong commitment. I’m not against gay marriage, actually, and I’m the most right-wing person I know. I think marriage has been a great thing for me, and I think it’s a civilizing force, and I think it would be a civilizing force for gay people too.”
Not to mention that he’s one hot DILF . . .
gary69mike
Both.
Scotty2Naughty
Caitlyn Jenner is a liar. Let’s not forget what she said on Ellen! She was really insensitive to the LGBT community with her comments about Gay marriage. Her “what’s the big deal” attitude turned me off. The fact that she’s backtracking now and saying “I’m 100% for Gay Marriage” doesn’t hold any weight with me. She also said some things on her show “I Am Cait” that were bizarre and she said these things in front of other transgenders on the show, who were offended. She acts like she’s clueless and doesn’t know any better and I can’t excuse her ignorance. I’ve been saying this from day 1…..she is not authentic. Her transition consisted of her lying on the plastic surgeon’s table. She didn’t live as a woman prior. She didn’t go through the trials and tribulations that every other transgender in the entire world goes through during their transition. She cannot relate to other transgenders and their struggle. People have given her a pass because she has money. So because she has money people have lowered their expectations for her and even praised her in many cases. She can be what she wants to be, but she is a fraud in my book.