If you tuned into the Thursday’s January 6 committee hearing then you already know it was basically a Mike Pence masturbation fest. The ex-VP was praised by Republicans and Democrats alike for not giving in to Donald Trump‘s demands to overturn the 2020 election.
“Thanks in part to Mike Pence, our democracy withstood Donald Trump’s scheme and the violence of January 6,” said Democratic Rep. Bennie Thompson, who chairs the committee.
“Vice President Pence understood his oath of office was more important than his loyalty to President Trump. He did his duty,” added Republican Rep. Liz Cheney, the committee’s vice chair.
One person who isn’t giving into the “Mike Pence is a hero!” storyline, however, is Mary Trump.
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“Mike Pence is not a hero. He did the right thing on January 6th but only after exploring every way to avoid doing so. He doesn’t even have the guts to testify in front of the committee,” she tweeted last night.
Mike Pence is not a hero. He did the right thing on January 6th but only after exploring every way to avoid doing so. He doesn't even have the guts to testify in front of the committee. #January6thCommitteeHearings
— Mary L Trump (@MaryLTrump) June 17, 2022
During yesterday’s hearing, the committee focused on the pressure Trump and others placed on Pence to block the certification of Joe Biden’s election victory, and how the ex-VP ultimately stood firm and didn’t give in. (Although not before consulting his own team of lawyers.)
In addition to the lawmakers, several witnesses praised him for his bravery and having averted a constitutional crisis.
Greg Jacob, a counsel to Pence, testified that he and the ex-VP talked in early December 2020 about how the founding fathers didn’t intend to empower the vice president, or any one person for that matter, to change the election results.
And Marc Short, Pence’s former chief of staff, said the ex-VP told Trump “many times” prior to the insurrection that he didn’t agree with the idea.
And, sure, that’s good. But Mary Trump is right. Mike Pence isn’t a hero for simply doing his job on January 6, 2020. And the fact that he’s shown zero interest in participating in the inquiry into the failed coup in which his very life was threatened is, frankly, kinda weird.
Others seem to agree…
I pay taxes, stop at stop signs. Am I a hero?
— B (@Quito1970) June 17, 2022
I agree with Officer Dunn’s question…”How did we get to this point where doing the right thing is considered courageous?”https://t.co/OcO5D1iuJm
— Pedro4Paz (@Pedro4Paz) June 17, 2022
He had two months to expose the truth, the plan and stop an insurrection. And he had four years to expose Trump (sorry Mary) to the country / world and did not. His own political ambition and fear keeps him from testifying.
— Cindy (@SD2usingmyvoice) June 17, 2022
He would have been a hero if he would have started 25th amendment procedures in November.
— Terry 💉💉💉💉 #ExGOP 🇺🇦 (@BusterBlackJet) June 17, 2022
Yeah screw that shit. He did his job…how courageous 🙄
— Stephen Tosh (@anotherTosh) June 17, 2022
Remember Pence did call Dan Quayle asking if there was any way he could do what tRump wanted!!!
— NJSpEd-MSEd🇺🇦Donna☮️✊️Protect our children!! (@daschmidt883) June 17, 2022
So many lives could have been saved, as well as a country on the brink of fascism, if all these supposed legal minds had done the right thing and exposed the coup plans before Jan. 6.
— Bill Johnson (@Bill43111) June 17, 2022
He basically did the minimum of what was required of his position. Calling him a hero is like giving an award to a cop for not being corrupt.
— Patrick Byers (@OtterGentleman) June 17, 2022
A hero does not spent years setting your house on fire only to run away at the last minute.
— Jen Henry 🇺🇸🇺🇦🏳️🌈 (@jenresisted) June 17, 2022
Yes. We’ve grown so accustomed to grift that someone simply doing the duty each of their predecessors has done after having sworn an oath to do so is acclaimed as a hero’s journey.
— Cathy Lewis (@CathyLewisTalks) June 17, 2022
bachy
Republicans have really lowered the bar for commendable political behavior.
Max
worse, none of them want redemption.
James
PENCE IS A LOSER.
Huron132
They need to make sure they keep the key to the city. He did too little to late. Take his cape away and put him in the cell next to Cheddar Cheese and let them duke it out who’s going to be the bitch!
twomen4u
I could care less about how many people/lawyers he consulted and I might have done the same. However in the end he did exactly what he was supposed to do and that averted another civil war. No one seems to want to say that but with the crowd in the capitol that day there was the rest of the country who knew the real man that was elected president. He is to be thanked for doing his job, no more, no less.
Mr. Stadnick
He obeyed the law. That’s all he did.
JanDivine
Every one of the people testifying before the panel knew long ago that they were working for Donald Trump and what he was doing and is capable of. They are not heroic or anything of the kind. They are just trying to save their own butts. Each supported Trump until they no longer had a choice.
abfab
Karen (Mother) can make personalized towel charms for him and the POS while they wither away in prison.
Jaquelope
I wouldn’t call him a hero, but it does seem that doing the right thing in today’s climate (of about the last several decades) does, unfortunately, seem to take courage.
johncp56
Pence is a hateful Homophobic hide behind religious creep
blackhook
Exactly!
blackhook
The most hilarious thing is that Princess Pence thinks he’s presidential material…
ingyaom
Please don’t say “Mike Pence” and “masturbation” in the same sentence.
Creamsicle
Apparently “heroism” now is opportunistically riding on the coat tails of a cult leader whose lifestyle and personal history are the antithesis of your own zealous politics, and then doing nothing as he spends months perpetuating a baseless lie about election results.
Bravery is now doing nothing while your boss whips fascist extremists into a fury and sets then to murder you and only kind of denouncing him, sort of, after your boss’s rhetoric actually incites a mob to violently attack the seat of American governance.
Such bravery. Such courage.
Fahd
Just imagine if he had gone along with the tangerine Palpatine in the coup attempt – what damage that would have wrought! So, thanks! By not going along with the coup, Pence has put his personal safety at risk and he pretty much ended his political career. Who’ll vote for him now? The dumpsters hate/want to kill him, and everyone else knows he’s just a variation on Dan Quayle. The committee making him a hero seals the coffin. Fate can be so cruel sometimes.
American democracy dodged a bullet (temporarily). I hope the committee proposes reforms to make the democracy more resilient (maybe trials for Lawyer Eastman and depraved Sen. Hawley); it’s creepily unsettling that Pence could have lit the match (and again, Thank God, he didn’t.
GaysForTrump
This was only in 2006. Scary stuff:
Joseph Biden defending the anti-gay Defense of Marriage Act — and saying “marriage is between a man and a woman and states must respect that”
Kangol2
Yes, and then he supported same-sex marriage fully.
Meanwhile, your garbage candidate Don the Con appointed numerous judges to the federal courts who are trying to legalize discrimination against LGBTQ people, and numerous members of your GQP Party, as well as many in its base, are fomenting hatred against LGBTQ people.
Are you speaking up and out or are you keeping your GaysforDrumpf trap shut? I think we all know the answer.
GaysForTrump
Kangol2:
Put your money where your mouth is. You repeated the same post 5+ times.
You state: ‘Don the Con appointed numerous judges to the federal courts who are trying to legalize discrimination against LGBTQ people’
Name 3 judges — by name — who Trump appointed to federal courts trying legalize discrimination against LGBTQ people.
You said numerous. So name 3.
And what actions have the judges taken to legalize discriminating against LGBTQ?
You’re so full of BS. Look forward to your answer.
I want Judges names. That simple.
GaysForTrump
Kangol2:
Trump nominated openly LGBT judge: Mary M. Rowland to the federal court.
He also nominated an openly gay man and Filipino-American, Patrick Bumatay.
The U.S. Senate approved openly gay federal prosecutor named by President Trump for a seat on the U.S. Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, making him the highest-ranking openly gay federal judge in the country.
Kangol2
OK, GaysforDrumpf, since you seem so absolutely clueless:
“A third of the more than 50 circuit court judges nominated by President Donald Trump since he took office nearly three years ago have a “demonstrated history of anti-LGBTQ bias,” according to a new report by LGBTQ civil rights group Lambda Legal, which asserts that the justice system is “now indisputably in a state of crisis.”” – cited from “A third of Trump’s court nominees have anti-LGBTQ history, report finds,” NBC News, Dec. 23, 2019
Names:
Steven Menashi
Lawrence VanDyke
Allison Jones Rushing
Do you want more?: “Trump Nominates Lawyers from Anti-LGBT “Religious Freedom” Group to Be Texas Federal Judges,” cited in Texas Observer, September 17, 2017
Two more:
Jeff Mateer
Matthew Kacsmaryk
Again, do you want more names? We can keep going!
Defend that monstrous creep all you want but a few tokens doesn’t change the fact that he’s crammed right-wing, anti-LGBTQ judges on the federal courts!
GaysForTrump
Kanyol2.
There rulings might not go in your favor. But that’s not what your argument was.
You stated these judges were appointed to legalize discrimination against LGBTQ. Point out what they are doing to legalize discrimination?
You’ve twisted your facts. You’re fake news.
Kangol2
GaysforDrumpf, you are the one who cannot admit that your beloved fascist psycho traitor failed president appointed anti-LGBTQ judges to the courts. You asked for names & I gave them to you.
When they rule against LGBTQ people let’s see if you open your trap to say anything about them or about the GQP, which is rabidly anti-LGBTQ. The Texas GQP just openly attacked homosexuality–are you going to defend them too?
I asked before and will ask again, do you speak up to right-wing RepubliQans who are actively trying to strip away our rights and equality, or do you parasitically remain quiet as they enact their hateful agenda?
GaysForTrump
Kangol2:
I don’t live in fear. It’s the year, 2022. I challenge anyone to try and take away my rights.
Which of your personal rights are being challenged? You personally. Let’s hear them. And I would be an ally to defend them.
On the other hand, my focus is what’s really having an impact on my life: inflation; high cost of gas; violence/murder rates skyrocketing.
Which of your personal rights are in jeopardy? And what is actively being done to take them away? By which individuals?
GaysForTrump
The Advocate Magazine, (year 2000)
The Article Title: ‘Donald Trump’s Advocate Interview Where He Defends Gays, Mexicans’
Why should gays and lesbians be interested in you as a presidential candidate?
I grew up in New York City, a town with different races, religions, and peoples. It breeds tolerance. In all truth, I don’t care whether or not a person is gay. I judge people based on their capability, honesty, and merit. Being in the entertainment business — that is, owning casinos and … several large beauty pageants — I’ve worked with many gay people. I have met some tough, talented, capable, terrific people. Their lifestyle is of no interest to me.
Would we see gay people in a Trump administration?
I would want the best and brightest. Sexual orientation would be meaningless. I’m looking for brains and experience. If the best person for the job happens to be gay, I would certainly appoint them. One of the key problems today is that politics is such a disgrace, good people don’t go into government. I’d want to change that.
What would you do to combat antigay prejudice?
I like the idea of amending the 1964 Civil Rights Act to include a ban of discrimination based on sexual orientation. It would be simple. It would be straightforward. We don’t need to rewrite the laws currently on the books, although I do think we need to address hate-crimes legislation. But amending the Civil Rights Act would grant the same protection to gay people that we give to other Americans — it’s only fair. I actually suggested this first, and now I see [Democratic presidential candidate] Bill Bradley has jumped on the bandwagon and is claiming the idea as his own. [A bill to amend the Civil Rights Act that would have included protections on the basis of sexual orientation was first introduced in the 1970s. — Ed.] Let me tell you something. Bradley is as phony as a $20 Rolex. He says the president ought to have big ideas. His last big idea — the 1986 [Tax Reform Act] — caused a recession and cost thousands of people their jobs. This guy destroyed the real estate industry, and he tanked the S&Ls. It was a disaster. Bradley walked out of the Senate like he was some kind of statesman declaring that “politics is broken.” The truth is, the voters were going to dump him in New Jersey. He walked away. Now he poses as some kind of outsider. What a joke. Bradley was a member of the Senate Finance Committee and a longtime part of Washington establishment. When I was $900 million and my companies were $9 billion in debt, I didn’t walk away. While others were declaring bankruptcy, I clawed my way back. My businesses are now bigger and better than ever.
Are your gay employees allowed to be out?
Everyone makes a personal choice. Look, it just doesn’t matter to me. I try to treat everybody equal and fairly.
Kangol2
He’s full of crap! He appointed numerous anti-LGBTQ judges to the federal courts! Many members of your GQP are actively fomenting hatred against LGBTQ people as I type this!
Do you speak up or out about RepubliQan anti-LGBTQ rhetoric, laws, etc? Or do you keep your trap shut? I think we know the answer!
GaysForTrump
Kangol2:
Put your money where your mouth is. You repeated the same post 5+ times.
You state: ‘Don the Con appointed numerous judges to the federal courts who are trying to legalize discrimination against LGBTQ people’
Name 3 judges — by name — who Trump appointed to federal courts trying legalize discrimination against LGBTQ people.
You said numerous. So name 3.
And what actions have the judges taken to legalize discriminating against LGBTQ?
You’re so full of BS. Look forward to your answer.
Give 3 Judges names. Should be simple. Since you state numerous.
GaysForTrump
Kangol2:
Trump nominated openly LGBT judge: Mary M. Rowland to the federal court.
He also nominated an openly gay man and Filipino-American, Patrick Bumatay.
The U.S. Senate approved openly gay federal prosecutor named by President Trump for a seat on the U.S. Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, making him the highest-ranking openly gay federal judge in the country.
Mack
Just spewing your normal bullshit. No truth, no proof, no nothing just a typical ass back ward republican.
Kangol2
OK, GaysforDrumpf, since you asked:
“A third of the more than 50 circuit court judges nominated by President Donald Trump since he took office nearly three years ago have a “demonstrated history of anti-LGBTQ bias,” according to a new report by LGBTQ civil rights group Lambda Legal, which asserts that the justice system is “now indisputably in a state of crisis.”” – cited from “A third of Trump’s court nominees have anti-LGBTQ history, report finds,” NBC News, Dec. 23, 2019
Names:
Steven Menashi
Lawrence VanDyke
Allison Jones Rushing
Do you want more?: “Trump Nominates Lawyers from Anti-LGBT “Religious Freedom” Group to Be Texas Federal Judges,” cited in Texas Observer, September 17, 2017
Two more:
Jeff Mateer
Matthew Kacsmaryk
Again, do you want more names? We can keep going!
Defend that monstrous creep all you want but a few tokens doesn’t change the fact that he’s crammed right-wing, anti-LGBTQ judges on the federal courts!
GaysForTrump
Kangol2:.
There rulings might not go in your favor. But that’s not what your argument was.
You stated these judges were appointed to legalize discrimination against LGBTQ. Point out what they are doing to legalize discrimination?
You’ve twisted your facts. You’re fake news.
GaysForTrump
Mack. Your ignorance is insufferable.
Not only do you make a blanket misleading claim. You double down on challenging facts that are easily verifiable.
But continue choosing the ignorant stance. It’s far less work.
GaysForTrump
Let’s hear Biden’s thoughts:
Just last week he struggled with getting through LGBTQI+.
Ignorant fool.
In his very first year as senator he declared that gay people should not receive security clearances because they would be a “security risk”.
“My gut reaction is that they [homosexuals] are security risks,” he told gay activist Robert Vane, according to The Morning News.
In 1992 he voted to block an amendment that would implement a system for cohabiting same-sex partners, extending rights and benefits that were traditionally reserved for matrimony.
The following year he voted to block the immigration of HIV positive people into the United States. Around this time he also voted for “Don’t Ask Don’t Tell”, which deemed homosexuality “incompatible” with military life.
This devastating policy kicked 14,500 LGBT+ service members of out of the military because of their sexuality. Years later as vice president Biden supported its repeal, but at the time he was firmly in favour of the motion.
In 1994 he voted for an amendment to cut off federal funding for schools that taught “acceptance of homosexuality as a lifestyle”.
And in 1996 he was among the many Democrats who voted for the Defence of Marriage Act (DOMA), which defined marriage as between a man and a woman – a considerable setback for LGBT+ equality.
Just 4 short years later, Trump was quoted wanting to add sexual orientation to Civil Rights Act.
Chrisk
@ DumbassforTrump
Wow. You have to go back in history to make him look bad. To me it makes me admire him even more. He overcame the bigotry of the times and became a better man. Something you can’t say for Republicans today.
Kangol2
Don the Con is full of crap just like! He appointed numerous anti-LGBTQ judges to the federal courts! Many members of your GQP are actively fomenting hatred against LGBTQ people as I type this!
Do you speak up or out about RepubliQan anti-LGBTQ rhetoric, laws, etc? Or do you keep your trap shut? I think we know the answer!
GaysForTrump
Kangol2:
Put your money where your mouth is. You repeated the same post 5+ times.
You state: ‘Don the Con appointed numerous judges to the federal courts who are trying to legalize discrimination against LGBTQ people’
Name 3 judges — by name — who Trump appointed to federal courts trying legalize discrimination against LGBTQ people.
You said numerous. So name 3.
And what actions have the judges taken to legalize discriminating against LGBTQ?
You’re so full of BS. Look forward to your answer.
3 Judges names. That simple.
Your so angry with life. Your posts are full of hatred. You’re everything you supposedly hate.
GaysForTrump
Kangol2:
Trump nominated openly LGBT judge: Mary M. Rowland to the federal court.
He also nominated an openly gay man and Filipino-American, Patrick Bumatay.
The U.S. Senate approved openly gay federal prosecutor named by President Trump for a seat on the U.S. Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, making him the highest-ranking openly gay federal judge in the country.
You were saying?
Kangol2
OK, GaysforDrumpf, again, since you asked amidst your Don the Con bootlicking:
“A third of the more than 50 circuit court judges nominated by President Donald Trump since he took office nearly three years ago have a “demonstrated history of anti-LGBTQ bias,” according to a new report by LGBTQ civil rights group Lambda Legal, which asserts that the justice system is “now indisputably in a state of crisis.”” – cited from “A third of Trump’s court nominees have anti-LGBTQ history, report finds,” NBC News, Dec. 23, 2019
Names:
Steven Menashi
Lawrence VanDyke
Allison Jones Rushing
Do you want more?: “Trump Nominates Lawyers from Anti-LGBT “Religious Freedom” Group to Be Texas Federal Judges,” cited in Texas Observer, September 17, 2017
Two more:
Jeff Mateer
Matthew Kacsmaryk
Again, do you want more names? We can keep going!
Defend that monstrous creep all you want but a few tokens doesn’t change the fact that he’s crammed right-wing, anti-LGBTQ judges on the federal courts!
GaysForTrump
Kangol2..
There rulings might not go in your favor. But that’s not what your argument was.
You stated these judges were appointed to legalize discrimination against LGBTQ. Point out what they are doing to legalize discrimination?
You’ve twisted your facts. You’re fake news.
Tombear
Well if Mike Pence was hung he would have more boyfriends. I’m trying to be clever here.
cuteguy
I didn’t steal anything today. Would Liz Cheney call me a hero for doing the right thing? Prob not bc I’m lgbtq. Mike Pence is no hero for being forced to do the right thing. He’s actually a coward for not testifying.
Kangol2
Mike Pence did his Constitutional duty, no more, no less.
Yet he also enabled a deranged, treasonous, fascist psychopath, Don the Con, for roughly four years. Nothing he or anyone else associated with that administration–and that includes clowns like Scaramucci, Spicer, etc.–can ever do will live that down, but the absolute bottom of the barrel are the people who hung on nearly to the end without trying to oust traitor Don the Con using the 25th Amendment! The deranged coup plotter should have been removed in a straightjacket well before January 6, 2021!
Jack
Trust me. It pains me to say this, but Pence made an honorable decision. Not saying he’s an honorable man. He could have used the riot as a cop out to leave (they were going to kill the man) but he didn’t. There’s some morality in there. We have to appreciate what he did. Things could be very different if he hadn’t.
charette8596
Jack – You’re the 1st one here to give credit, where credit is due. The rest of these clowns are to busy reading the bible according to Mary Trump.