Image Credits: Lily Gladstone in ‘Killers Of The Flower Moon,’ AppleTV+ (left) | Colman Domingo in ‘Rustin,’ Netflix (center) | Jodie Foster in ‘Nyad,’ Netflix (right)
2023 was another great year for LGBTQ+ film, but did that pan out in the nominations for the 96th annual Academy Awards? Well… yes and no!
While the Oscars once again neglected to nominate some our most accomplished queer filmmakers (Todd Haynes and Andrew Haigh deserve better!), there are a number of features recognized that include major LGBTQ+ characters and performers, so that’s a win.
And, of course, the big story of the morning is that the Academy has nominated not one but two out actors—Colman Domingo in Rustin and Jodie Foster in Nyad—for playing queer roles. Believe it or not, this is only the second and third time this has ever happened in the Oscars’ 96-year history, so this is no small accomplishment, and we feel so immensely proud for our community to be recognized in this way.
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Below, we’ve got a round-up of the nominees in the major categories—as well as some hot takes on who (and who didn’t) make the cut. You can see a complete list of nominees on the Academy’s website, and don’t miss the live show, airing Sunday, March 10 on ABC.
Best Picture
American Fiction
Anatomy Of A Fall
Barbie
The Holdovers
Killers Of The Flower Moon
Maestro
Oppenheimer
Past Lives
Poor Things
The Zone Of Interest
Queerty’s Hot Takes: This is the big one! And it more or less shook out how we anticipated—which is not a bad thing. Films like American Fiction, Anatomy Of A Fall, and Maestro all prominently feature LGBTQ+ characters, while others like Barbie and Killers Of The Flower Moon make room for notable LGBTQ+ performers. So we’re not mad…. just a little disappointed to see Andrew Haigh’s masterpiece All Of Us Strangers get completely snubbed, and the great gay filmmaker Todd Haynes blanked again with May December. Does the Academy have a problem with nominating films actually made by queer people?
Best Director
Jonathan Glazer, The Zone Of Interest
Yorgos Lanthimos, Poor Things
Christopher Nolan, Oppenheimer
Martin Scorsese, Killers Of The Flower Moon
Justine Triet, Anatomy Of A Fall
Queerty’s Hot Takes: The major snub here has to be Greta Gerwig, who turned what could’ve been a feature length Mattel ad into a beloved, inclusive story that became one of the highest grossing movies of all time! Still, it was a competitive field, and we’re just glad it wasn’t completely male-dominated—shout out to Justine Triet, an incredibly deserved first-time nominee.
Best Actress
Annette Bening, Nyad
Lily Gladstone, Killers Of The Flower Moon
Sandra Hüller, Anatomy Of A Fall
Carey Mulligan, Maestro
Emma Stone, Poor Things
Queerty’s Hot Takes: This was a fight to the finish, with several worthy contenders missing out (Greta Lee! Natalie Portman! Barbie herself, Margot Robbie!). But we can’t be mad about how the field shook out, and we have to give a special shoutout to Annette Benning—playing real-life lesbian athlete and activist Diana Nyad—and the powerful performance from Lily Gladstone, who notably identifies with she/they pronouns, and whose nod means she’s the first ever Native American performer to vie for a competitive acting award. History!
Best Actor
Bradley Cooper, Maestro
Colman Domingo, Rustin
Paul Giamatti, The Holdovers
Cillian Murphy, Oppenheimer
Jeffrey Wright, American Fiction
Queerty’s Hot Takes: COLMAN DOMINGO! Colman Domingo… words can understate how major this nomination is. After Ian McKellen’s Best Actor nod in 1998 for Gods And Monsters, Domingo’s is only the second instance where an out lead actor has been nominated for playing an out character—the eponymous activist Bayard Rustin in Rustin. The man’s been putting in solid work on stage and screen for years, and this honor could not be more deserved. We’re rooting for you, Colman! (Now if only the Academy had the sense to nominate Andrew Scott for his heartbreaking work in All Of Us Strangers, too.)
If Colman Domingo isn’t already considered a household name, he’s about to be.
Best Supporting Actress
Emily Blunt, Oppenheimer
Danielle Brooks, The Color Purple
America Ferrera, Barbie
Jodie Foster, Nyad
Da’Vine Joy Randolph, The Holdovers
Queerty’s Hot Takes: Look, we love all of these women—from America Ferrera and her fiery feminism monologue in Barbie, to Da’Vine Joy Randolph’s quietly moving turn in The Holdovers (who’s been picking up every precursor award all season long, and deservedly so). But we’d be lying if we didn’t let out a little hoot and chug a can of Diet Coke in honor of Jodie Foster’s performance as Bonnie Stoll in Nyad, a rare instance where an out actor is actually getting recognition for playing a queer character—and a brassy, tough-talking lesbian at that!
Best Supporting Actor
Sterling K. Brown, American Fiction
Robert De Niro, Killers Of The Flower Moon
Robert Downey Jr., Oppenheimer
Ryan Gosling, Barbie
Mark Ruffalo, Poor Things
Queerty’s Hot Takes: Are we a little heated that Riverdale star-turned-internet “babygirl” Charles Melton was snubbed for his breakthrough work in queer filmmaker Todd Haynes’ May December? Yes, very much so! But it is amazing to see Sterling K. Brown get recognized for his sensitive (and funny!) role as a newly out gay man in American Fiction. And, yeah, of course we’re thrilled to see Ryan Gosling had enough Ken-ergy to make it into the category. In his words: “SUBLIME!”
Part satire, part family drama, ‘American Fiction’ is a crowd-pleasure with a scene-stealing performance from Sterling K. Brown.
Best Adapted Screenplay
American Fiction
Barbie
Oppenheimer
Poor Things
The Zone Of Interest
Queerty’s Hot Takes: You can argue whether Barbie warranted the “adapted” or “original” screenplay categorization, but you can’t argue that Greta Gerwig and Noah Baumbach’s brilliant, beautiful script deserved this nomination! This might end up being one of the more competitive categories of Oscar night—another Barbenheimer showdown perhaps?
Best Original Screenplay
Anatomy Of A Fall
Maestro
May December
Past Lives
The Holdovers
Queerty’s Hot Takes: The trailblazing queer filmmaker Todd Haynes was looked over once again—impossibly, his sole nomination is for the screenplay of 2002’s Far From Heaven—but at least the provocative, dark, and frequently hilarious script for his film May December was recognized here, earning young writer Samy Burch a worthy nomination for her first feature screenplay.
Best Original Song
“I’m Just Ken” (performed by Ryan Gosling), Barbie
“It Never Went Away” (performed by Jon Batiste), American Symphony
“The Fire Inside” (performed by Becky G), Flamin’ Hot
“What Was I Made For?” (performed by Billie Eilish), Barbie
“Wahzhazhe (A Song For My People)” (performed by Osage Tribal Singers), Killers Of The Flower Moon
Queerty’s Hot Takes: Just to set the record straight: A single film can only receive up to two different nominations in this category, so Dua Lipa’s disco bop “Dance The Night” always had an uphill battle against Barbie comedic highlight “I’m Just Ken” and the stunning, soulful “What Was I Made For?” And, yes, “The Fire Inside” from Flamin’ Hot? It was written by none other than 15-time nominee Diane Warren, who’s never met a Best Original Song category she couldn’t find her way into. Congrats, queen!
Best Animated Feature
The Boy And The Heron
Elemental
Nimona
Robot Dreams
Spider-Man: Across The Spider-Verse
Queerty’s Hot Takes: It’s hard to argue with this bunch, which include the latest masterpiece from legend Hayao Miyazaki, The Boy And The Heron, and the jawdropping, multi-verse hopping fun of Spider-Man: Across The Spider-Verse. But a special shoutout to Netflix’s Nimona, a beautifully realized and highly queer-inclusive story about identity and found family.
Best Documentary Feature
Bobi Wine: The People’s President
Four Daughters
To Kill A Tiger
The Eternal Memory
20 Days In Mariupol
Queerty’s Hot Takes: We won’t lie, we have our homework in this category, with a number of titles to catch up on before Oscars night. We’re bummed to see Going To Mars: The Nikki Giovanni Project—the story of the Black queer activist—miss out here, and we’re still miffed D. Smith’s electrifying Kokomo City wasn’t part of the long list for the category to begin with; without a doubt one of the most exciting documentaries of the year (and films, period!).
Best Documentary Short
The ABCs Of Book Banning
The Barber Of Little Rock
Island In Between
The Last Repair Shop
Nǎi Nai And Wài Pó
Queerty’s Hot Takes: Quick shout-out to The ABCs Of Book Banning, an urgent and powerful doc short that addresses the shameful reality that the majority of books banned from young people in American schools happen to be those that center LGBTQ+ and POC voices. Seek this one out!
Best Live Action Short
Invincible
Night Of Fortune
Red, White And Blue
The After
The Wonderful Story of Henry Sugar
Queerty’s Hot Takes: And we wanted to include mention of this category because it might just be one of the most disappointing crops of the night—as far as we’re concerned—because it had the opportunity to be very, very queer. The sweet Ben Whishaw-starring dramedy Good Boy was snubbed, as was the Elliot Page-produced An Avocado Pit, which had the opportunity to be the first film ever recognized int his category written and directed by a trans person (emerging filmmaker Ary Zara). And you know what else missed out? The great Pedro Almodóvar’s answer to Brokeback Mountain, the gay Western Strange Way Of Life. Does the Academy not want an excuse to invite Pedro Pascal to their ceremony?
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Maestro, agreed. I haven’t seen anything that I’d call better than a TV movie of the week. Oppenheimer has done well but I have no attraction to watch the content. Barbie was nothing special. Maybe next year.
I wish Lily Gladstone would’ve campaigned for Best Supporting Actress where she would’ve steamrolled the competition (even tho I LOVE The Holdovers and Da’Vine deserves the accolades as well)
I don’t get how Barbie herself doesn’t get nominated but Ken does? At least Gloria (America Ferrara) got nominated too.
Yes, a person can be both. I do not know whether Domingo or Foster identify as both. It’s a sad irony when people who demand labeling themselves label others without consent.
Queer is an umbrella term for people who are not heterosexual or are not cisgender. Originally meaning ‘strange’ or ‘peculiar’, queer came to be used pejoratively against those with same-sex desires or relationships in the late 19th century. Wikipedia
Someone needs to take a Queer Studies class and adopt our Orwellian jargon! Remind me how y’all differentiate yourselves from right-wing evangelical cultists again…
Not abcrabs’s job. He likes using words and you should adopt them no questions asked. Oh, but what about the Trump Nazis again? Here comes the Helen Lovejoys tut-tutting their fascist counterparts on the right.
decrans, Like you stated about him before, once he can’t argue his point he just starts hurling insults. And I agree with you and he should change his nickname because he is nothing like that amazing show.
“…queer came to be used pejoratively against those with same-sex desires or relationships….”
And many of us still see it that way; used as a pejorative. I find it ironic that men can call themselves women and they are brave and to be applauded, but if an LGB person doesn’t want to be called queer they are antiquated and behind the times.
I should be able to call myself what I want without people using a blanket term like queer to describe me.
christopher.lord, I’m not queer, I’m gay. I understand language changes but I don’t have to accept a word that was used as a slur, to mean something new. It’s still a slur to me. Plus it now has a militant, angry connotation, and I don’t want to be associated with that. Don’t you think it’s easier to say “I’m gay”? People know what that means. saying “I’m queer” what does that mean?
These same people want to force laws compelling social media companies to use their Orwellian language. When a Christian baker refuses a cake, meanwhile, these same people piss their everloving pants. Welcome to the American idiocracy.
This is a really depressing conversation. Shaver, I agree with you and others that if you don’t like the word “queer” in reference to gay people you don’t have to use it. BUT…and this is a HUGE “but”…as someone else said, language evolves and changes over time. It’s ALWAYS worked that way. Acceptable words evolve to be considered slurs, and vice versa. “Queer” has very clearly evolved over the past 30 years or so. I’d guess most gay people accept it today as a positive, and definitely most young gays do. The evolution is clearly shown by the TV shows “Queer As Folk,” from 25 years ago, and “Queer Eye For the Straight Guy.”
So it’s a literal fact that the word has evolved to be seen as positive and an identifier for huge numbers of gay and other LGBTQ+ people. I have considered myself both gay and queer for many years, and I’m in the older group.
Bottom line: you can hate the word, you can tell other people not to identify you with it, and you can grind your teeth whenever it’s used, but…YOU CAN’T TELL OTHER GAY PEOPLE THAT THEY CAN’T USE IT.
Look at y’all here complaining on a site called QUEERty about the use of the word as a blanket for the non-heterosexual community. It’s almost like if y’all were truly offended by the “slur” of it all, you wouldn’t visit the site every. single. minute. of. every. day.
“…YOU CAN’T TELL OTHER GAY PEOPLE THAT THEY CAN’T USE IT.”
I didn’t say other people couldn’t use it. I don’t think any of the other posters said it either.
Yes, I realize words change, usage changes, however, for the most part queer refers to something I am not. There are a good percentage of gay men who would prefer not to be called queer. If someone says they are gay; that is a clear descriptor. If someone says they are queer; that can mean a host of different things. A lot of things I am not. Why confuse people? It’s not a guessing game.
I may be old in the gay community’s eyes, but I know what I am and what I am not. I am gay man. Period.
And Queerty’s resident moron Abcrabs wants to say I’m confusing. However, the queer definition changes like the wind based on various moods day to day. Why can’t mainstream America just accept it?!? These fools just can’t understand it! Grip those Kleenexes, Helen Lovejoy.
Queer was popularized by trans people wanting to be included and gay didn’t fit bc they are straight. Though they were glad to take over lgb for their popularization. Unfortunately due to their nazi style trans activists demeaning women the english language and women’s sports, men w beards screaming “I’m a woman!!!” men in girls showers, they instead pulled a complete fail. Trans and NB saddled us w “queer”. But then there isn’t anything more truly queer than trans people so they got something right. Yeah, sucks for gay people.
Diplomat, what you say is simply incorrect. The trans community did not “saddle us” with usage of the word “queer.” By the late 1800s the word was used for gay men. It was simultaneously used in derogatory AND neutral AND affirming ways by different people and groups. As early as 1952 the Oxford English Dictionary was using affirming references as examples for what the word meant, e.g., “young men who call themselves ‘queers’.” Many gay liberationists in the 60s and 70s began using the word in an affirmative way to refer to themselves. Older folks may remember the protest song lyric “we’re here because we’re queer.” “Queer Nation” was a prominent liberation group formed in the 90s to advance gay rights. Both “Queer As Folk” in 2000 and “Queer Eye For the Straight Guy” in 2003 continued that tradition.
It was only in the early 2000s that the word “queer” began to be used as an inclusive term to accommodate anyone who felt outside the sexuality/gender mainstream.
So, EMPHATICALLY NO, “queer” was not forced upon us by the trans community. Rather, we the gay/queer community invited them in to join us in a more comprehensive union of everyone fighting the staid, regressive status quo.
Baron Wiseman, I wasn’t referring to you when I made the comment you quoted. However, Shaver said both “queer means nothing” and “there is no such thing as being queer.” By which he is saying, of course, that while we can utter the word without him physically attacking us or sending MAGATs our way to do it for him (at least I hope that’s true!), we can’t actually use it in a legitimate way because it doesn’t exist. He’s clearly not saying what you said, which is that you don’t identify in any way with that word. And so I would never use it to refer to you, out of respect for your wishes. But I’m queer, just like Brian Kinney was, and out of respect for me you should accept my usage of it.
All the things you mentioned were in the mix however the word “queer” never stuck as an umbrella term until around the time the trans took over the LGB flag after LGBs got gay marriage. A thing that many gay people hated. And now we’re paying the price see above comment. They aren’t a sexual orientation and they are straight short a minor percentage. It’s the same time cisgender was coined, another bothersome term. And let me be clear: never has a gay man who knows his worth this century desired to pull a heinous slur word into its community as a overall descriptor. Noone were calling each other queer that I ever heard and living all over California I heard it all. It was a word only fag bashers used.
People never seemed to have a problem with “we’re here we’re queer get used to it” bc it didn’t stick for everyday use. And Queer Nation could have been all trans for all we know. As far as Queer as Folk Queerty etc those are cute titles non invasive however, in QasF we never heard any gay characters refer to another as fag or queer in everyday use.
It comes down to common sense: who needs the compromising words queer and cisgender to get inclusion? Not LGBs, we were fine. It’s Trans / NBs at every turn.
Trans seem to be quite silent on this matter, a tactic they use with just about everything.
If you’re Trans I applaud you for engaging in civil conversation instead of flying off the handle at every turn when they hear NO.
Dennis, You just restated what Diplomat wrote. Queer was a word originally meant to refer to something or someone odd. It became a derogatory word in reference to gay men. When gay men started using it, it was still in reference to being gay. I didn’t like it, but whatever. But just like Diplomat said, it has now become a nebulous word that doesn’t mean anything because it was taken over by activists who want to be part of LGB but are clearly not. A “non-binary” person isn’t gay. A trans person isn’t necessarily gay. But they take “Queer” to be included. No, those are not sexualities.
All the things you mentioned were in the mix however the word “queer” never stuck as a thoroughly annoying umbrella term until around the time the trans activists took over the LGB flag after LGBs got gay marriage. A thing that many gay people hated. And now we’re paying the price see above comment. They aren’t a sexual orientation and they are straight short a minor percentage. It’s the same time cisgender was coined, another bothersome term. And let me be clear: never has a gay man who knows his worth this century desired to pull a heinous slur word into its community as a overall descriptor. Noone was calling each other queer that I ever heard and living all over California I heard it all. It was a word only fag bashers used.
People never seemed to have a problem with “we’re here we’re queer get used to it” bc it didn’t stick for everyday use. And Queer Nation could have been all trans for all we know. As far as Queer as Folk Queerty etc those are cute titles non invasive however, in QasF we never heard any gay characters refer to another as fag or queer in everyday use.
It comes down to common sense: who needs the compromising words queer and cisgender to get inclusion? Not LGBs, we were fine. It’s Trans / NBs at every turn.
Trans seem to be quite silent on this matter, a tactic they use with just about everything.
If you’re Trans I applaud you for engaging in civil conversation instead of flying off the handle at every turn when they hear NO.
We either believe that individuals should be respected or not.
We all know by now that abfab and it’s sock puppet dbncvey lack all respect and human decency. They are definitely “LGBTQIA people” or “queer.”
To be “gay” means you are same-sex attracted, not ashamed of it, and believe you are deserving of love and equal rights. Race, religion, politics, nationality – everything else is irrelevant.
As the late, great AIDS activist Larry Kramer told an audience at Yale, “I’m not queer and neither are you.”
So many great films and performances this year. I think Oppenheimer is the film to beat because it’s huge, complex and has excellent performances, but I’m glad to see actors like Colman Domingo, Jodie Foster, Annette Bening, Jeffrey Wright, Sterling K. Brown, Da’Vine Joy Randolph, Lily Gladstone, and America Ferrara nominated (not a fan of the Barbie movie but I know millions of people are). Natalie Portman was very good in May December and deserved a nod too.
I appreciated Barbie’s messages and many of the performances, but I found the film as a whole forced, unfunny (except for Will Ferrell), preachy, and, though I am a progressive person politically, a bit of liberal Hollywood dreck. It wasn’t for me. Millions of people loved it, which I acknowledge, but I found it a bore.
The difficulty with Barbie was the effort to appeal to adults while making it OK for children. I freelanced at Mattel and it is a perennial problem there.
LOVED BARBIE. millions of films about how men and their superiority and one film that proposes women might do a better job and. the world loses its shit. How many films where men are the whole focus are preachy? millions of them. All the noir films have the women as the ultimate villain so again one film where the men are the problem and all the men go batshit
Barbie wasn’t as great as some people make it out to be. It isn’t as great as it could have been. It was better than I expected. It just lost me when Ken tried to take over Barbie Land. Lost all of its magic.
Would have loved to see All of Us Strangers in the mix, but it’s a small film up against fierce competition. Hard to say who Andrew Scott deserved to displace from the Best Actor list, for example.
Queer is a term of inclusion that welcomes everyone regardless of likes, dislikes, masc or fem tall or short you name it. All genders. All orientations. All are welcome.
One big umbrella. So you are welcome too Shaves.
It’s redundant, because “Q” is included in the alphabet (LGBTQIA+). Plus what you said still doesn’t make it anything other than just a different term for someone gay/bi/lesbian. Trans people aren’t necessarily gay so our little alphabet should be LGB. The rest doesn’t make sense. I don’t even know what IA refers to, and then of course a “plus” in case someone makes up another nonsense sexuality or sex.
Shaver, in case your REALLY don’t know, “I” stands for intersex, and “A” stands for Asexual/Aromantic. My personal view is that I’d prefer to use the word queer as our “big group” identifier rather than a long and changing acronym.
Read my longer post in answer to you above. I’m afraid this is a battle you can’t win. “Queer” has evolved to be acceptable by most of the community, and the passing years will just make it more so.
I have no idea why you people slobber like dogs over this queer nonsense. It is still offensive, and it is demeaning to actual LGBT people who have actual skin in the game. Anyone can be queer, which makes it worthless.
It’s an insult that has been reclaimed to empower. I other words. Your insult can’t hurt me because I am already using it. I am turning a negative to a positive.
Lighten up.
Yeah, except in reality it doesn’t actually work. But that is the root problem with fringe leftist dogma, they can explain it, but it still doesn’t work. Like defund police and trans women are women. I could go on with their broken slogans, which they can explain without any concern for facts or reality.
Having seen “all of us strangers” this weekend, I’m beyond stupified by the complete shut out. I would’ve thought at least 6 nominations. Anyways guys, if you haven’t, see if, it’s a beautiful, haunting film.
My thoughts exactly! Be patient and 2020’s “His House” will blow you away. Any movie that hits an emotion core with lingering resonance tops my list. Angels in America on stage was a masterpiece.
Sharon, Shaver, decranny, Diplomat and oh bama now have enough material to write a book. A joint effort by conservitive queer trolls. It will be called ”We Will Eventually Convince You Of These Things”
Amazing, the amount of time and an excess of words they spend to get thier oh-so-important messages across to roughly 10 Gay men who might get all the way thru one of thier rants. This is there way of feeling useful to the republican platforms.
Your book will be titled, “Can we ever convince the majority of Americans of such things?” The way it’s been going for you? That’s a hard no. Hell, not even Biden is so much as lifting a finger to save childhood gender transitions. But you’ll vote for him and eat that dangling carrot like an idiot right on cue, by God.
And learn the difference between ‘your’ and ‘you’re’ and ‘their’ and ‘there.’ Fifth graders know this, Abcrabs It’s rather sad. You’re what, like 75? You might need to sit down and let the adults talk about politics, babe. It’s outside your wheelhouse.
Much of the blowback around the reconceptualization of “Queer” as an umbrella political term, supposedly “uniting” all of these various persons, is that some Gay/Lesbian/Bisexuals feel that many of the political aims of transgenders are fundamentally misaligned with the Gay/Lesbian/Bisexual movement.
In other words, same-sex attraction is enough of a political issue to stand on its own. The desire to change one’s sex through radical medical interventions and the reconstruction of gender ideology (transgenderism) might best be seen as a completely separate political movement, in the same manner that, say, feminism is a separate political movement. Yes, there are parallels and overlap, but to avoid incongruity and dilution, they might best be seen as fundamentally separate ideologies.
For years, we’ve heard intersectionality as the latest leftist buzzword. Intersectionality doesn’t work as a concept. Exhibit A: Mayo Pete Buttigieg’s presidential campaign. He had zero percent of the Black votes. However, the privileged white gay liberals of Queerty would rather shoehorn THEIR interests above those of inner-city Black people. Trying to group everyone under a unified umbrella exposes the fissures of the American left. And yes, the right-wing operatives have exploited those fissures to their advantage.
Biden is too smart to fall into the fringe left political pits. At least so far. He’s gone down the student loan forgiveness trail, but I can forgive that. Kamela has fallen into a few, and I hope she has learned. No one needs the Vice President telling them her pronouns.
So, even if he is in a coma, if Biden is the nominee, he’s got my vote. The alternative is just too insane and mean.
Abless you’re the ultimate dirty diaper cry baby. No matter how much you blather on with your vile baseless rhetoric, the truth is you’re a loser. You’ve lost the game of pushing insanity. The world ain’t buying it. Buy lots of kleenex for you and yours. Your gonna need it.
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RIGay
Maestro? Really? I actually sat through it and thought it was total garbage.
I was hoping to see “Wonka” get SOME nod, but oh well.
Diplomat
Maestro, agreed. I haven’t seen anything that I’d call better than a TV movie of the week. Oppenheimer has done well but I have no attraction to watch the content. Barbie was nothing special. Maybe next year.
LumpyPillows
I concur. Maestro was an indulgent film that was too artsy for its own good.
cuteguy
I wish Lily Gladstone would’ve campaigned for Best Supporting Actress where she would’ve steamrolled the competition (even tho I LOVE The Holdovers and Da’Vine deserves the accolades as well)
I don’t get how Barbie herself doesn’t get nominated but Ken does? At least Gloria (America Ferrara) got nominated too.
ShaverC
Colman Domingo is gay. Jodi Foster is a lesbian. Neither are “queer”. Queer means nothing.
Kangol2
A person can be both queer and gay. They aren’t exclusive. Someone needs to take a Queer/LGBTQ Studies class, circa 2000!
lather
Yes, a person can be both. I do not know whether Domingo or Foster identify as both. It’s a sad irony when people who demand labeling themselves label others without consent.
ShaverC
I’m just stating the obvious. There is no such thing as being queer. There is gay, lesbian, bisexual. End of story.
abfab
If anyone here is QUEER………………….it’s you ShaverC.
ShaverC
abfab, Explain to me what “Queer” means. You don’t even know.
abfab
Not my job.
inbama
And how did they identify themselves?
Jodie Foster: “I’m just gonna put it out there loud and proud – I’m gay!”
Colman Domingo: “My brother Rick is the epitome of masculinity. But I had to tell him I was gay,”
It seems a lot of queers are as bad as DeSantis when it comes to “Don’t Say Gay.”
abfab
There. You happy now SchaverC? Your buddy inbamma answered your burning question and he did it with his usual flair.
ShaverC
abfab, inbama confirmed that the actors “identify” as gay. You still haven’t answered by “burning question”: define queer. But you don’t know how to.
abfab
Not my job, plus, I despise you. Do your own fu cking research.
dbmcvey
Shaves, standing on the beach screaming at the waves to stop rushing in.
abfab
OMFG LOL
Mack
Queer is an umbrella term for people who are not heterosexual or are not cisgender. Originally meaning ‘strange’ or ‘peculiar’, queer came to be used pejoratively against those with same-sex desires or relationships in the late 19th century. Wikipedia
decrans
Someone needs to take a Queer Studies class and adopt our Orwellian jargon! Remind me how y’all differentiate yourselves from right-wing evangelical cultists again…
decrans
Not abcrabs’s job. He likes using words and you should adopt them no questions asked. Oh, but what about the Trump Nazis again? Here comes the Helen Lovejoys tut-tutting their fascist counterparts on the right.
ShaverC
decrans, Like you stated about him before, once he can’t argue his point he just starts hurling insults. And I agree with you and he should change his nickname because he is nothing like that amazing show.
decrans
Pretty much. He’s the equivalent of a CBS sitcom. Hell, he fits their audience demographic.
Baron Wiseman
@Mack
“…queer came to be used pejoratively against those with same-sex desires or relationships….”
And many of us still see it that way; used as a pejorative. I find it ironic that men can call themselves women and they are brave and to be applauded, but if an LGB person doesn’t want to be called queer they are antiquated and behind the times.
I should be able to call myself what I want without people using a blanket term like queer to describe me.
christopher.lord
The language is changing; those pesky younger generations are doing it with or without your permission. Get on board or get out of the way.
ShaverC
christopher.lord, I’m not queer, I’m gay. I understand language changes but I don’t have to accept a word that was used as a slur, to mean something new. It’s still a slur to me. Plus it now has a militant, angry connotation, and I don’t want to be associated with that. Don’t you think it’s easier to say “I’m gay”? People know what that means. saying “I’m queer” what does that mean?
Baron Wiseman
@christopher.lord
“Get on board or get out of the way.”
How about…No! I won’t be bullied into calling myself what other people want to call me.
decrans
These same people want to force laws compelling social media companies to use their Orwellian language. When a Christian baker refuses a cake, meanwhile, these same people piss their everloving pants. Welcome to the American idiocracy.
DennisMpls
This is a really depressing conversation. Shaver, I agree with you and others that if you don’t like the word “queer” in reference to gay people you don’t have to use it. BUT…and this is a HUGE “but”…as someone else said, language evolves and changes over time. It’s ALWAYS worked that way. Acceptable words evolve to be considered slurs, and vice versa. “Queer” has very clearly evolved over the past 30 years or so. I’d guess most gay people accept it today as a positive, and definitely most young gays do. The evolution is clearly shown by the TV shows “Queer As Folk,” from 25 years ago, and “Queer Eye For the Straight Guy.”
So it’s a literal fact that the word has evolved to be seen as positive and an identifier for huge numbers of gay and other LGBTQ+ people. I have considered myself both gay and queer for many years, and I’m in the older group.
Bottom line: you can hate the word, you can tell other people not to identify you with it, and you can grind your teeth whenever it’s used, but…YOU CAN’T TELL OTHER GAY PEOPLE THAT THEY CAN’T USE IT.
startenout
Look at y’all here complaining on a site called QUEERty about the use of the word as a blanket for the non-heterosexual community. It’s almost like if y’all were truly offended by the “slur” of it all, you wouldn’t visit the site every. single. minute. of. every. day.
Almost.
Baron Wiseman
@DennisMpls
“…YOU CAN’T TELL OTHER GAY PEOPLE THAT THEY CAN’T USE IT.”
I didn’t say other people couldn’t use it. I don’t think any of the other posters said it either.
Yes, I realize words change, usage changes, however, for the most part queer refers to something I am not. There are a good percentage of gay men who would prefer not to be called queer. If someone says they are gay; that is a clear descriptor. If someone says they are queer; that can mean a host of different things. A lot of things I am not. Why confuse people? It’s not a guessing game.
I may be old in the gay community’s eyes, but I know what I am and what I am not. I am gay man. Period.
decrans
And Queerty’s resident moron Abcrabs wants to say I’m confusing. However, the queer definition changes like the wind based on various moods day to day. Why can’t mainstream America just accept it?!? These fools just can’t understand it! Grip those Kleenexes, Helen Lovejoy.
abfab
Sharon can only exist in a world that serves him ”clear descriptives”.
Diplomat
Queer was popularized by trans people wanting to be included and gay didn’t fit bc they are straight. Though they were glad to take over lgb for their popularization. Unfortunately due to their nazi style trans activists demeaning women the english language and women’s sports, men w beards screaming “I’m a woman!!!” men in girls showers, they instead pulled a complete fail. Trans and NB saddled us w “queer”. But then there isn’t anything more truly queer than trans people so they got something right. Yeah, sucks for gay people.
DennisMpls
Diplomat, what you say is simply incorrect. The trans community did not “saddle us” with usage of the word “queer.” By the late 1800s the word was used for gay men. It was simultaneously used in derogatory AND neutral AND affirming ways by different people and groups. As early as 1952 the Oxford English Dictionary was using affirming references as examples for what the word meant, e.g., “young men who call themselves ‘queers’.” Many gay liberationists in the 60s and 70s began using the word in an affirmative way to refer to themselves. Older folks may remember the protest song lyric “we’re here because we’re queer.” “Queer Nation” was a prominent liberation group formed in the 90s to advance gay rights. Both “Queer As Folk” in 2000 and “Queer Eye For the Straight Guy” in 2003 continued that tradition.
It was only in the early 2000s that the word “queer” began to be used as an inclusive term to accommodate anyone who felt outside the sexuality/gender mainstream.
So, EMPHATICALLY NO, “queer” was not forced upon us by the trans community. Rather, we the gay/queer community invited them in to join us in a more comprehensive union of everyone fighting the staid, regressive status quo.
DennisMpls
Baron Wiseman, I wasn’t referring to you when I made the comment you quoted. However, Shaver said both “queer means nothing” and “there is no such thing as being queer.” By which he is saying, of course, that while we can utter the word without him physically attacking us or sending MAGATs our way to do it for him (at least I hope that’s true!), we can’t actually use it in a legitimate way because it doesn’t exist. He’s clearly not saying what you said, which is that you don’t identify in any way with that word. And so I would never use it to refer to you, out of respect for your wishes. But I’m queer, just like Brian Kinney was, and out of respect for me you should accept my usage of it.
Diplomat
Diplomat
Dennis,
All the things you mentioned were in the mix however the word “queer” never stuck as an umbrella term until around the time the trans took over the LGB flag after LGBs got gay marriage. A thing that many gay people hated. And now we’re paying the price see above comment. They aren’t a sexual orientation and they are straight short a minor percentage. It’s the same time cisgender was coined, another bothersome term. And let me be clear: never has a gay man who knows his worth this century desired to pull a heinous slur word into its community as a overall descriptor. Noone were calling each other queer that I ever heard and living all over California I heard it all. It was a word only fag bashers used.
People never seemed to have a problem with “we’re here we’re queer get used to it” bc it didn’t stick for everyday use. And Queer Nation could have been all trans for all we know. As far as Queer as Folk Queerty etc those are cute titles non invasive however, in QasF we never heard any gay characters refer to another as fag or queer in everyday use.
It comes down to common sense: who needs the compromising words queer and cisgender to get inclusion? Not LGBs, we were fine. It’s Trans / NBs at every turn.
Trans seem to be quite silent on this matter, a tactic they use with just about everything.
If you’re Trans I applaud you for engaging in civil conversation instead of flying off the handle at every turn when they hear NO.
ShaverC
Dennis, You just restated what Diplomat wrote. Queer was a word originally meant to refer to something or someone odd. It became a derogatory word in reference to gay men. When gay men started using it, it was still in reference to being gay. I didn’t like it, but whatever. But just like Diplomat said, it has now become a nebulous word that doesn’t mean anything because it was taken over by activists who want to be part of LGB but are clearly not. A “non-binary” person isn’t gay. A trans person isn’t necessarily gay. But they take “Queer” to be included. No, those are not sexualities.
Diplomat
Dennis,
All the things you mentioned were in the mix however the word “queer” never stuck as a thoroughly annoying umbrella term until around the time the trans activists took over the LGB flag after LGBs got gay marriage. A thing that many gay people hated. And now we’re paying the price see above comment. They aren’t a sexual orientation and they are straight short a minor percentage. It’s the same time cisgender was coined, another bothersome term. And let me be clear: never has a gay man who knows his worth this century desired to pull a heinous slur word into its community as a overall descriptor. Noone was calling each other queer that I ever heard and living all over California I heard it all. It was a word only fag bashers used.
People never seemed to have a problem with “we’re here we’re queer get used to it” bc it didn’t stick for everyday use. And Queer Nation could have been all trans for all we know. As far as Queer as Folk Queerty etc those are cute titles non invasive however, in QasF we never heard any gay characters refer to another as fag or queer in everyday use.
It comes down to common sense: who needs the compromising words queer and cisgender to get inclusion? Not LGBs, we were fine. It’s Trans / NBs at every turn.
Trans seem to be quite silent on this matter, a tactic they use with just about everything.
If you’re Trans I applaud you for engaging in civil conversation instead of flying off the handle at every turn when they hear NO.
inbama
We either believe that individuals should be respected or not.
We all know by now that abfab and it’s sock puppet dbncvey lack all respect and human decency. They are definitely “LGBTQIA people” or “queer.”
To be “gay” means you are same-sex attracted, not ashamed of it, and believe you are deserving of love and equal rights. Race, religion, politics, nationality – everything else is irrelevant.
As the late, great AIDS activist Larry Kramer told an audience at Yale, “I’m not queer and neither are you.”
abfab
Yale. Sure.
LumpyPillows
Shaver is correct on this one. Queer is a meaningless word pushed by the social anarchists from the fringe left.
Diplomat
The word QUEER will never be meaningless. That doesn’t fit this equation. It will always be a slur.
Kangol2
So many great films and performances this year. I think Oppenheimer is the film to beat because it’s huge, complex and has excellent performances, but I’m glad to see actors like Colman Domingo, Jodie Foster, Annette Bening, Jeffrey Wright, Sterling K. Brown, Da’Vine Joy Randolph, Lily Gladstone, and America Ferrara nominated (not a fan of the Barbie movie but I know millions of people are). Natalie Portman was very good in May December and deserved a nod too.
abfab
Barbie had lots of good messages. And America was so funny. Her daughter too.
Kangol2
I appreciated Barbie’s messages and many of the performances, but I found the film as a whole forced, unfunny (except for Will Ferrell), preachy, and, though I am a progressive person politically, a bit of liberal Hollywood dreck. It wasn’t for me. Millions of people loved it, which I acknowledge, but I found it a bore.
bachy
The difficulty with Barbie was the effort to appeal to adults while making it OK for children. I freelanced at Mattel and it is a perennial problem there.
abfab
Will Farrell was what bothered me most. An obnoxious clown. A republican troll. Annoying.
barryaksarben
LOVED BARBIE. millions of films about how men and their superiority and one film that proposes women might do a better job and. the world loses its shit. How many films where men are the whole focus are preachy? millions of them. All the noir films have the women as the ultimate villain so again one film where the men are the problem and all the men go batshit
LumpyPillows
Barbie wasn’t as great as some people make it out to be. It isn’t as great as it could have been. It was better than I expected. It just lost me when Ken tried to take over Barbie Land. Lost all of its magic.
abfab
The first scene in BARBIE is what grabbed me. OMFG, it was not only funny but it was TRUE!
smittoons
Would have loved to see All of Us Strangers in the mix, but it’s a small film up against fierce competition. Hard to say who Andrew Scott deserved to displace from the Best Actor list, for example.
abfab
NO to Oppenhiemer! Love the science, hated the background music which was louder than most of the actors poorly written lines. It was a real bomb.
Pietro D
YOU are WRONG! You are the BOMB because everything you just said about Oppenheimer is not true.
Evidently, you muct be a MORON!
decrans
He really is. He confuses ‘you’re’ with ‘your.’
abfab
And you’re 22.
decrans
And you’re a pathetic old gay troll whose best years are behind him and who can’t write COHERENT sentences. Boo-hoo.
Diplomat
Your whole troll tripe is such a bore. Come up with another slur, you’re putting everyone to sleep. Ye twits.
abfab
But that’s what you are, so don’t count on that happening. Diaper Queen-Scat Troll aka Dipshit.
Ronbo
Abfab, we’ve had discussions about your childish outbursts. WWJJS?
Your hero, Judge Judy would send you to her chambers to be spanked. Unfortunately, you might find it a treat and act out more often.
Mister P
Queer is a term of inclusion that welcomes everyone regardless of likes, dislikes, masc or fem tall or short you name it. All genders. All orientations. All are welcome.
One big umbrella. So you are welcome too Shaves.
LumpyPillows
Which ultimately renders it meaningless. You’re welcome.
Mister P
Inclusive rather than exclusive.
eidolonnyc
Umbrella one-size-fits-all instead of singling out the individuals standing underneath it.
ShaverC
It’s redundant, because “Q” is included in the alphabet (LGBTQIA+). Plus what you said still doesn’t make it anything other than just a different term for someone gay/bi/lesbian. Trans people aren’t necessarily gay so our little alphabet should be LGB. The rest doesn’t make sense. I don’t even know what IA refers to, and then of course a “plus” in case someone makes up another nonsense sexuality or sex.
DennisMpls
Shaver, in case your REALLY don’t know, “I” stands for intersex, and “A” stands for Asexual/Aromantic. My personal view is that I’d prefer to use the word queer as our “big group” identifier rather than a long and changing acronym.
Read my longer post in answer to you above. I’m afraid this is a battle you can’t win. “Queer” has evolved to be acceptable by most of the community, and the passing years will just make it more so.
abfab
The right wing blogs kicked ShaverCs ass out because he was just taking up space being an old, tired queen. Now Queerty gets stuck with his bullshit.
LumpyPillows
I have no idea why you people slobber like dogs over this queer nonsense. It is still offensive, and it is demeaning to actual LGBT people who have actual skin in the game. Anyone can be queer, which makes it worthless.
dbmcvey
This is great, but I have a whole lot of films I need to catch up on.
Mister P
Fine. Go away then you queer.
Mister P
It’s an insult that has been reclaimed to empower. I other words. Your insult can’t hurt me because I am already using it. I am turning a negative to a positive.
Lighten up.
LumpyPillows
Yeah, except in reality it doesn’t actually work. But that is the root problem with fringe leftist dogma, they can explain it, but it still doesn’t work. Like defund police and trans women are women. I could go on with their broken slogans, which they can explain without any concern for facts or reality.
Diplomat
Sounds like someone still believes in the tooth fairy. Dog shit smells the same no matter how much sugar you try to smoother it with.
abfab
The scat queen returns.
MynameisSid
Having seen “all of us strangers” this weekend, I’m beyond stupified by the complete shut out. I would’ve thought at least 6 nominations. Anyways guys, if you haven’t, see if, it’s a beautiful, haunting film.
bachy
Thanks for the reco!
Ronbo
My thoughts exactly! Be patient and 2020’s “His House” will blow you away. Any movie that hits an emotion core with lingering resonance tops my list. Angels in America on stage was a masterpiece.
abfab
Sharon, Shaver, decranny, Diplomat and oh bama now have enough material to write a book. A joint effort by conservitive queer trolls. It will be called ”We Will Eventually Convince You Of These Things”
Amazing, the amount of time and an excess of words they spend to get thier oh-so-important messages across to roughly 10 Gay men who might get all the way thru one of thier rants. This is there way of feeling useful to the republican platforms.
Less is more cupcakes.
decrans
Your book will be titled, “Can we ever convince the majority of Americans of such things?” The way it’s been going for you? That’s a hard no. Hell, not even Biden is so much as lifting a finger to save childhood gender transitions. But you’ll vote for him and eat that dangling carrot like an idiot right on cue, by God.
abfab
Sure, Jan.
decrans
You need some Liz Taylor perfume to cover that desperation, Abby. Pour yourself a drink, put on some lipstick and pull yourself together, sweetums.
decrans
And learn the difference between ‘your’ and ‘you’re’ and ‘their’ and ‘there.’ Fifth graders know this, Abcrabs It’s rather sad. You’re what, like 75? You might need to sit down and let the adults talk about politics, babe. It’s outside your wheelhouse.
bachy
Much of the blowback around the reconceptualization of “Queer” as an umbrella political term, supposedly “uniting” all of these various persons, is that some Gay/Lesbian/Bisexuals feel that many of the political aims of transgenders are fundamentally misaligned with the Gay/Lesbian/Bisexual movement.
In other words, same-sex attraction is enough of a political issue to stand on its own. The desire to change one’s sex through radical medical interventions and the reconstruction of gender ideology (transgenderism) might best be seen as a completely separate political movement, in the same manner that, say, feminism is a separate political movement. Yes, there are parallels and overlap, but to avoid incongruity and dilution, they might best be seen as fundamentally separate ideologies.
decrans
For years, we’ve heard intersectionality as the latest leftist buzzword. Intersectionality doesn’t work as a concept. Exhibit A: Mayo Pete Buttigieg’s presidential campaign. He had zero percent of the Black votes. However, the privileged white gay liberals of Queerty would rather shoehorn THEIR interests above those of inner-city Black people. Trying to group everyone under a unified umbrella exposes the fissures of the American left. And yes, the right-wing operatives have exploited those fissures to their advantage.
LumpyPillows
Biden is too smart to fall into the fringe left political pits. At least so far. He’s gone down the student loan forgiveness trail, but I can forgive that. Kamela has fallen into a few, and I hope she has learned. No one needs the Vice President telling them her pronouns.
So, even if he is in a coma, if Biden is the nominee, he’s got my vote. The alternative is just too insane and mean.
Diplomat
Abless you’re the ultimate dirty diaper cry baby. No matter how much you blather on with your vile baseless rhetoric, the truth is you’re a loser. You’ve lost the game of pushing insanity. The world ain’t buying it. Buy lots of kleenex for you and yours. Your gonna need it.
abfab
Diapers seem to be a thing for you.
LumpyPillows
IF I hear Leo DiCaprio say “I like the color of your skin” on my Apple TV+ I will have a brain hemorrhage, making many of you very happy.
abfab
No! Don’t have one of those.
LumpyPillows
Well, thank you!
bachy
No one owes Leonardo DiCaprio a brain hemorrhage! No one!