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Smartypants Legal Blogger Takes On Immodest Political Blogger

By Queerty Staff June 23, 2009 at 11:06am · 18 comments

It started with the DOMA brief, but now the case of Law Dork (Chris Geidner) v. Americablog (John Aravosis) is on to bigger and better things. What’s next? A meeting after school in the parking lot to sort things out?

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  • Yet another John

    Avarosis may be overstating his case, but Chris is a total Obama apologist. Chris seems to think that but for John there’d be no problem with the DOMA brief. I am following John’s lead. The White House seems to be paying attention to us since he started harping. We haven’t seen nearly enough progress yet, but the little progress we seem to be getting from the WH is from John’s blog (and Pam’s), not Chris’. (BTW-Chris hasn’t had balls enough to take on Pam and she is right in there post for post with John.)

    June 23, 2009 at 3:06pm
  • Mike

    @Yet another John: That is because all Pam does is repeat the insane crap that John is asserting.

    June 23, 2009 at 3:06pm
  • Jeff

    John A stopped sounding even vaguely sane four years ago. Just because a guy is gay is not reason enough for me to ignore the fact that he’s occupying the Bill O’Reilly Seat on the LeftyBus.

    Take an ativan and read some Alinsky John.

    June 23, 2009 at 3:06pm
  • Jeff

    Let me correct myself … Not the BillO seat; The Sarah Palin-Politics-of-Grievance Seat

    June 23, 2009 at 3:06pm
  • Dabq

    @Mike: So true, Pam has become as cluless as Obama on gbltq issues, and really needs to take a break and get back to blogging when she has something to say that is her own.

    June 23, 2009 at 4:06pm
  • Mike

    @Dabq: The final straw for me, where Pam is concerned, is when she wrote a piece last week about how fitting it was that the gay blog “riot/revolution” was happing so close to Stonewall. That the blogs are the new Stonewall.

    Give me a fucking break. A group of bloggers sitting on their asses criticizing the gay activists that actually are out on the streets or bitching about Obama is not a revolution.

    Sorry, Lady.

    June 23, 2009 at 4:06pm
  • Leto

    @Mike “A group of bloggers sitting on their asses criticizing the gay activists that actually are out on the streets or bitching about Obama is not a revolution.” Sorry, I don’t see them criticizing the activist that are actually on the street, it is the cocktail sipping, back room hush-hush deal cutting “leaders” they are criticizing. On the contrary, they seem to be motivating the “on the street” activists into demonstrating at the DNC fundraiser. Honestly, does the DOMA brief filed by the DOJ make you feel all warm and fuzzy for Obama? NOT ME!

    June 23, 2009 at 4:06pm
  • Mike

    @Leto: Leto. They totally cut the legs out from under the March. People actually organizing and getting people involved, not sitting around in a dark room in their mother’s basement.

    June 23, 2009 at 4:06pm
  • wondermann

    Chris speaks the truth. I rather be led in the right direction vs led into a ditch.

    John is acting like a jealous ex watching his ex boyfriend with someone new. We need a wise and smart vision, but a misguided and aimless one

    June 23, 2009 at 5:06pm
  • Kevin Erickson

    The definitive Aravosis smackdown comes courtesy of Bilerico.

    http://www.bilerico.com/2009/06/americablog_interrupted.php

    Chris’ blog is great too.

    June 23, 2009 at 8:06pm
  • Movement Guy

    Loving Chris and Alex Blaze.

    June 24, 2009 at 12:06am
  • TANK

    If it goes the to the parking lot, I’ve got odds on john kicking this guy’s ass. NOthing to do with him being right or anything….though this guy law dork is quite an apologist…and I haven’t seen him really refute that the doj doma brief compared gay relationships to incest and pedophilia…he said he did…I couldn’t find that reasoning.

    June 24, 2009 at 12:06am
  • Movement Guy

    @TANK:

    “I haven’t seen him really refute that the doj doma brief compared gay relationships to incest and pedophilia…he said he did…I couldn’t find that reasoning.”

    Okay, I’ll break it down. Pedophilia is an attraction to pre-pubescent children. The case cited in Smelt was that of a woman who was married at 16 (post-pubescent), who later sued to have the marriage annulled. She was not a child. Being married at 16 remains legal (with parental consent) in many states. As far as I can tell, there were no claims in the case that she was married to a pervert or that she was forced into it. Going from that to Obama is comparing us to pedophiles is a huge stretch that actually harms the argument.

    The “incest” couples were first cousins (not brother and sister or parent/child) who were LEGALLY married in their native state of New Mexico. The other are uncle and niece who were LEGALLY married in Italy. The issue, then, is a particular state’s right to not recognize marriages performed in other jurisdictions that are not legal in that state.

    June 24, 2009 at 8:06am
  • Leto

    Robert Shrum tends to agree with Avarosis, not Chris. See his article from yesterday: http://www.theweek.com/article/index/97925/Obamas_two_pressing_problems

    June 24, 2009 at 9:06am
  • TANK

    Okay, I’ll break it down. Pedophilia is an attraction to pre-pubescent children.

    Not according to law enforcement, and my psychologists (paraphilia). Pedophilia comes with a range of different distinctions including post pubescent legal minors. I just don’t see any reasoning here disputing the comparison.

    June 24, 2009 at 2:06pm
  • TANK

    MANY psychologists, rather. LOL!

    June 24, 2009 at 2:06pm
  • TANK

    The “incest” couples were first cousins (not brother and sister or parent/child) who were LEGALLY married in their native state of New Mexico.

    And? They’re an incestuous couple, and it was being used to argue for the values of a certain state making their incestuous marriage illegal. Seems like a comparison to me.

    The other are uncle and niece who were LEGALLY married in Italy.

    Yeah, even more disgusting.

    The issue, then, is a particular state’s right to not recognize marriages performed in other jurisdictions that are not legal in that state.

    That’s only part of it. You should actually read the brief before commenting on it. In it, it argues by comparison of homosexual marriage to incest and pedophilia, with states having the right to not recognize those marriages based upon their values.

    June 24, 2009 at 2:06pm
  • TANK

    @Movement Guy:

    I mean this is just baseless apologism. It’s creepy, actually…skin crawlingly creepy. I hope you’re not gay and that you don’t work for an advocacy group of any kind. It’s embarrassing.

    June 24, 2009 at 2:06pm

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