What is going on down in Huntington Beach, California? Citizens of the wealthy, surf town just voted against the display of Pride flags.
The ordinance (Measure B) bans the display of non-governmental flags on public properties. Although not specifically targeting the rainbow flag, such flag bans usually follow public buildings displaying the rainbow flag.
Flags that are allowed are city, county and state flags, as well as the US and armed forces flags. City Hall would also be allowed to fly commemorative banners for events such as the Olympics.
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Just over 58% of voters cast ballots on Tuesday in favor of Measure B. The city has around 54,000 registered Republican voters against 41,000 Democrats, with a further 28,000 registering no party preference.
The city council previously voted to fly the rainbow flag on public buildings during Pride Month. That provoked a backlash. The city council then voted last year to change the city charter to ban the flying of non-governmental flags.
In an interview with NBC News, the city mayor defended the proposed ban. Gracey Van Der Mark is a former Democrat who switched to Republican in 2016.
“A lot of this is taking Huntington Beach back to how it was,” she said. “A lot of cities are afraid to push back because they don’t want to be the target of Sacramento. We’re not afraid.”
However, the move has dismayed many supporters of LGBTQ+ rights.
“The Huntington Beach City Council is run by a hateful majority whose only interest is advancing an agenda of intolerance for minority communities, including LGBTQ+ individuals,” said Peg Coley, the executive director of the LGBTQ Center Orange County. “The pendulum always swings back and history is the harshest judge, but informed votes are the very best prevention.”
Angrytown, USA
The Orange County city has previously been dubbed “Angrytown, USA”. This is not the first time it has bucked the California trend in culture wars. It was the scene of several lockdown protests early in the pandemic.
Last year, California Governor, Gavin Newsom, accused the town of trying to be the “poster child for nimbyism”. That accusation came after it refused to comply with affordable housing development rules. In other words, residents didn’t want affordable homes built near its wealthy properties.
Huntington Beach city council member Dan Kalmick told The Guardian, “It’s pretty wild what’s happening here.” He opposed Measure B and pointed out that just holding a special election had cost the city between $400,000 to $500,000.
Besides the ban on Pride flags, voters also approved measures to require voter ID in local elections.
Fellow council member Rhonda Bolton, who like Kalmick opposed Measure B, said the flag ban may have some unexpected consequences. In a video posted Tuesday urging people to vote, she pointed out, “the Blue Lives Matter flag in the lobby of the police department would be in violation of the city’s charter.”
Since tomorrow is Election Day, here are the facts about Measures A, B, and C which are on the ballot. Don’t forget to vote! 🇺🇸🗳️ pic.twitter.com/dYu2CoUMaZ
— Rhonda Bolton 🏳️🌈🇺🇦 (@RhondaMBolton) March 5, 2024
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Chrisk
Much of Orange County is Republican. In some neighborhoods you’ll see nothing but trump flags on every other house. Huntingbeach is mostly just for the wealthy. I’m sure it leans on the conservative side.
It’s surreal when I travel there from my home in Los Angeles. It’s like night and day in terms of culture.
ShaverC
A southern California town that seems to be somewhat sane? Good for them.
abfab
Find a new website.
dbmcvey
This from Shaver, a conservative troll who seems not at all sane.
Fahd
Tyranny of the majority. Even if they tried to disguise it, this flag measure is motivated by a particular animus against a protected minority. I hope it is challenged in the courts; oh wait, the current Supreme Court. Hell in a handbasket.
As I understand it, MAGA people have a 4 person majority on a city council of 7 and they are out of control (see also voter id measure (clearly unconstitutional red meat for the MAGA voter)).
Even the editoral board of the Orange County Register, the libertarian newspaper of record for those who live behind the Orange curtain, has called for the Huntington Beach City Council majority to knock it off with the political theater.
Oh well, with these tyranny of the majority wins now things will just go from bad to worse. Sad.
ShaverC
How could anyone be against voter ID?
abfab
More of your stupid questions.
dbmcvey
So Shaver is even against the pride flag? Not only don’t I believe he’s gay, I don’t believe he’s a person.
ShaverC
We don’t need government buildings pandering to anyone. We’re talking about public buildings only, a shop or house could fly what it wants.
Diplomat
This is a direct response to the Ts “tyranny of the majority” who use control violence and sex abuse to get their way. Once they are managed through legislation, the pride flag might, just might mean what it used to.
monty clift
Will they be banning all variations of it? I wouldn’t mind them banning that “Progress” flag. In addition to being incredibly ugly, it is false.
abfab
Yes. Even the American Flag will be banned.
blase99
It’s a ban on all non-goverment flags on city property.
dbmcvey
What’s that Dips? What did it used to mean that it doesn’t now?
Diplomat
Let’s see, the pride flag used to represent civil rational gay people. Now it represents vulgar psychotic str8 trans identifying men in women’s showers; vile transgender activists desecrating the pronouns of the english language: lying in schools that girls can be boys and visa versa to …. basically a vile vicious attack group out to destabilize humanity,,,, shall I go on? There’s much more. It’s why LGB wants T removed, completely. They’re nothing but chaotic belligerent irrational psyche cases who can’t own there biological sex, out to rain pure chaos.
dbmcvey
B.s. dips, it was never about only the gay people you approve of.
Diplomat
Let me simplify: LGB went and got equal rights. That’s what the pride flag stood for.
T is going for the hostile takeover and obliteration of the human sexual binary breaking down the family and society in general.
LGBs and str8s think Ts are batshit crazy.
Hence LGBs wants Ts gone.
monty clift
Since most Ts are heterosexual nowadays, doesn’t that make it a problem that the straights have caused? I don’t see how they are the victims in all of this.
Diplomat
Certainly something to consider.
still_onthemark
Flags on government poles are a big problem lately. Boston found out the hard way when they wouldn’t let a Christian group fly their flag at City Hall for a day when they were letting everyone else do it. The Supreme Court, as any paralegal student could have predicted, ruled *unanimously* that Boston had to fly the flag. They also had to pay $2.1 million to the group. After this entirely predictable result, Boston changed their policy and now, neither Christians nor Satanists can fly their flags at City Hall. In conservative places the same phenomenon happens, only in reverse. If they want the Christians they have to take the Church of Satan too, that’s how it works!
abfab
The Chuch of Satan. They have a flag? How exciting!
Diplomat
Abfab…lol
abfab
Another distraction for the right wingers. Must stay busy!
LumpyPillows
What they did was legal. Why they did it is nasty.
abfab
Imagine the punishment! Fly your flags people. F uck em.
RoyM
Huntington Beach is and always has been full of hate-driven, anti-LGBTQ, right wing extremists so this isn’t surprising. Gracey Van Der Mark is rabidly homophobic like the majority of people that live in Orange County so this measure is not out of character for her and certainly not out of character for the city council. In Orange Count (the hate capitol of California) attacking the LGBTQ community pay dividends for politicians so they let the bigotry fly.
abfab
When MTG and Matt Gaetz and other notorious right wingers with hate on thier minds come to the beach they roll out the red carpets for them. You GOTTA see these people to believe it.
still_onthemark
Orange County registered voters currently are about 37% Democrats and 33% Republicans. In the 2018 midterms, EVERY congressional seat in OC flipped to Democrats. Some of the districts have become true swing districts and lately get tremendous attention from both parties. RoyM’s info is about 50 years out of date,
dbmcvey
Huntington Beach is even more insane than most of Orange County. But, it is very much a haven for rich white people.
abfab
Laguna Beach was once super gay and hot. I learned all about that in a classic porn film. Oh the horrors!
still_onthemark
Laguna Beach is probably still the gayest town in OC. And still has the fabulous Pageant of the Masters! (Not yet renamed by progressives upset by the word Masters.)
Baron Wiseman
Cities and states have no business flying non-governmental flags on government property.
School districts are starting to implement this policy as well.
abfab
Eventually people like you will fade away….
inbama
As long as our Democratic Party remains committed to teaching children “Gender Ideology” and insisting on so-called “affirmation-only therapy” which medicalizes pre-gay kids, 2SLGTBQIA+ (which is a front for the Gender Industry) will be a partisan issue.
We have handed them this issue to clobber us with.
Meanwhile, if you doubt you are being lied to by the industry, google the breaking scandal ” The WPATH Files – Environmental Progress. “
zehfyrsez
BW, I thought you were a states rights advocate. Huh….
Baron Wiseman
@zehfyrsez
How is supporting the decisions of states and cities not supporting “states rights” vs federalism?
zehfyrsez
How is that sentence any kind of reasoned response?
GayEGO
Shocking! Of all states, California is so gay!
ZzBomb
I’m ok w/ this so long as they don’t make any exceptions for christians who want to fly their flag.
inbama
Equal Rights for LGBT people has bipartisan support.
Inventing genders, they/them pronouns, people being fined and fired for “misgendering,” school teachers secretly transing kids, male-bodied transwomen in female sports – all of these grow increasingly unpopular with the American people. You can’t constitutionally demand that other people live in YOUR reality.
Baron Wiseman
@inbama
Correct. As Queerty stated in a previous post, LGBTQ acceptance has decreased in recent years. The reason for the decrease in LGBTQ support is exactly for the issues you mentioned. No matter how hard LGBTQ radicals push their agenda, many Americans will never support those issues.
Baron Wiseman
@ZzBomb
That is the whole reason for the ban!
ZzBomb
Inbama, we’re talking about flags here. The rest of what you said is garbage and irrelevant
Baron Wiseman
@ZzBomb
Again, over your head.
Yes, we are talking about flags and flags have a visual message. The ugly, ridiculous “progress” pride flag speaks to the issues in inbama’s post so it is not irrelevant.
inbama
@ZzBomb
The only “garbage” is your ignorant response.
For Sports issue, google: “More Say Birth Gender Should Dictate Sports Participation” = Gallup poll
And again, anyone who thinks they understand what’s called “life-saving care” for kids, needs to read ” The WPATH Files – Environmental Progress. “
dbmcvey
Being inclusive helps a city’s economy. The reason cities have Pride and other cultural celebrations is that they encourage business. It’s the same with various ethnic and nationality celebrations. It’s good for the well being of the city.
Stefano
The logic of the conservative people who comment here fascinates me. For them, sexuality (and even less homosexuality), racism and sexism should never be discussed with young people. Never show gay flags in public places or institutions. Gays should be as discreet as possible, if not invisible. Some also blame transsexuals for undermining the rights of other sexual minorities (just as some once blamed effeminate gay men for undermining the gay cause). I remember that not so long ago, there were lively discussions about gay marriage on Queerty…. and precisely these same conservative people were saying the same thing, that it would harm the gay cause and that gays shouldn’t be parents because only a man and a woman can create an environment conducive to a child’s healthy development. In fact, these conservative ‘gays’ have well and truly integrated the conservative heterosexual discourse. In fact, they deny their own existence. Hats off to you guys! Keep up the good work, because one day you won’t need to show your face, you’ll be able to live your life in the closet, as you seem to want to. Thank you very much for your support…I can feel that many of these conservatives will try to deny what I’ve just said with their abstruse rhetoric…but honesty is not their strength.
abfab
Thank you for spelling it out for us. The right wing conservative TROLLS won’t get it. They can be even more toxic than evangelicals and good old boys from Alabama and Idaho.
Stefano rocks!
dmd911
Sad, but not really surprising for Huntington Beach. Super conservative and anti-LGBTQ.