The Netflix series Heartstopper—winner of two Queerties, five Children’s & Family Emmy Awards, and a Dorian Award—is a coming-of-age tale about two boys in grammar school who fall in love.
And some gay male viewers can hardly watch it.
In a recent thread on the r/AskGayMen sub, Reddit users discussed how such a sweet TV show leaves them with bittersweet or just bitter feelings.
“Did Heartstopper make anyone else very sad for their younger selves?” one user wrote, starting the convo. “I didn’t realize how many unresolved issues I had been carrying around until I just binged the show. … It’s a weird thing to mourn the people we could have been and the experiences we could have had and then watch other people play them out.”
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Many commenters on the post could sympathize, having not had positive coming-out experiences during their youths—or having not come out at all until later in life.
“I can’t even watch it [to be honest], as I know it’ll bring back all the sadness of growing up and not being able to be myself,” one wrote. “It’s great that a lot of things have changed, but I feel like I missed out on so much and who I could really be.”
Another Reddit user wrote: “I will watch any genre of horror movie without blinking, from a jump-scare slasher to demonic possession. I don’t care how gross or horrific it is. At the same time, I will avoid gay coming-of-age content like the plague, because it does exactly what you said, and that for me is truly the most horrific thing.”
That person went on: “Guess I’m a coward, and [to be honest, I] don’t wanna keep dwelling on a past that I cannot change. I’m really happy things are better and better every day for newer generations, but at the same time, I’d rather pass the time focusing on my present self because I know I’d feel a bit bitter watching those shows/movies.”
And a third commenter recalled watching the first season through tears and feeling “pretty empty” for days afterward, writing, “I could see things starting to change for the better the last couple years at school, and it does seem like if I was born 5–10 years later, my teen years could have been much better. But I’m sure those 5–10 years older than me think similarly towards my experience.”
That commenter added: “I think it’s fine to acknowledge and mourn a lost youth or opportunities, but there’s no point dwelling on it too much. The past can’t be changed, so take comfort that things seem to generally be getting better for those younger than you and know that the more open-minded Gen Z [is], the more that trickles into wider society. Gen Z give[s] me a lot of hope.
“‘Bittersweet’ is probably the word to describe how Heartstopper Season 1 felt for me. Whilst I did cry at times during the second season, I did so much less and felt a lot more happiness for the younger generation, along with happiness that the show exists. Also, just gratefulness that school is long behind me.”
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quantum
Did I miss something? Heartstopper’s first season is about as realistic and has as much emotional depth as Dawson’s Creek or, perhaps more accurately, Degrassi High.
That said, I enjoy it quite a bit.
CatholicXXX
Six hours of “hi” “hey” “hello.”
bachy
Regret is a waste of energy. Progress is a feature of civilization, and there is always going to be progress, on all fronts. There were books and films about homosexuality available during the youth of many readers. These phenomena were progress over the previous generations, which may not have had any such materials available. And yet there were homosexuals in our grandparent’s generation that still managed to have soaring love affairs, like the protagonists in this article. The freedoms available to Nick and Charlie of Heartstopper are available to all of us today, regardless of our age. It’s pointless to cast oneself in the role of “victim” because you weren’t born 50 years from now!
LumpyPillows
Gret show. Stop the whining. Seriously, just watch pre-k cartoons if you can’t handle it.
GrizzlyMadams
Just another clickbait headline/article. Grab a bunch of negative reddit posts, throw them in a blender and call yourself a reporter. What else was I expecting?
JAMES
Did you at least look at it. There is a short summary of the book on Amazon.
I didn’t share this lightly, as you assume I did. This hits home with, I am sure, a lot of LGBTQIA+ sisters and brothers, that lived with horrible school class mates, military fear (during DADT).
cuteguy
We should all be on our knees giving thanks bc this instant classic gave us the once-in-a-lifetime actor like Kit Connor. He is like Marlon Brando or James Dean. Yes there was (and still is) homophobia but shows like this and Schitt’s Creek give us all hope. At the end of the day, we were gifted with the bisexual god that is Kit Connor.
rbemerson
Hello cute guy, while I agree that Kit Connor is quite attractive, I wouldn’t leave out Joe Locke in that category. He’s really hot stuff, and frankly more of James Dean than Kit. Regardless, I think the casting crew hit it out of the park because all of the guys on this program Are quite good looking.
Berkshires Jim
I’m in my 60s and most certainly did NOT have that kind of teen experience….yet, in watching the amazing first season, I was somehow able to get closure on my sad teen experience and weirdly, find it replaced with how it could have been. This is hard to explain, but I watched it numerous times and was blown away. The acting, especially by Kit Conner, was astounding. I can’t change my past (nor do I want to, as it got me where I am now), but how bittersweet this show it.
BEPVA
“…if I was born 5–10 years later, my teen years could have been much better.”
Try 40 years, kid.
You don’t catch guys our age “feeling pretty empty” for a week because we watched a nice story about fictional experiences we never had the opportunity to have.
Not everything is about you.
metta
Interesting reactions. I’m really enjoying this series. It is well done. We all of course have a right to our own feelings, and it is healthy to acknowledge them. Good to see that some people also acknowledge that they have more work to do. We all do in our own way.
When I was in high school, my father was terminally ill, and I didn’t even realize that I was gay at that time. I didn’t know any gay people in high school. This was long ago and very different times. I grew up in a conservative city. AIDS was just hitting the news, so when I did realize that I was gay, there were even more issues to be fearful of.
powersthatbe
News flash. Heartstopper isn’t about you. It isn’t about people you know. It’s a story, and an inspiring one at that. If one single gay or bisexual, trans or non-binary life is saved by the representation on the screen, that the viewer watching realises they are not alone, in the grand history line of LGBTQIA+, it has been worth it. Realise that not everything is about you. It’s about those that come next. We fight every day for them. That their lives won’t feel the pains we do. Enough.
ladron
Agreed. Trigger warning: if you haven’t work through your stuff, now would be the time to do so. Stop projecting your lives onto a fictional story ….
dmd911
I graduated high school in 1974 and things were quite different. We were all deep in the closet. At that time in history I wouldn’t even considering walking around holding hands with a boy or kissing a boy as that would guarantee getting my butt kicked daily. Things have come a long way and I’m so happy for this generation. I love the show and love that kids these days can do that. Would I change things, no thank you as it molded who I am today .. happy married to my husband of 28 years. If you don’t like the show, just change channels .. no one is forcing you to watch.
inbama
“Just change channels” is an appropriate response to someone who wants to censor a show.
Said to someone who is simply expressing a negative reaction, you’re just bullying.
LumpyPillows
I’m guessing, inbama is referencing a deleted post, otherwise he makes no sense.
Darson
Whoa is me my teen years weren’t as magical as a fictional tv show. I swear some people go out of their way to be unhappy.
I do wonder sometimes what it would have been like to have had something like Heartstoppers or RWRB in 1980 when I was in high school. Watched Making Love on HBO and my head nearly exploded watching two men kiss!
D.tastic
I was so disappointed by Season 2 in which we were once again shown that the gays are never allowed to be reasonably happy and well adjusted, navigating the vicissitudes of a sometimes hostile world and finding some love. Gotta be some torture for
us. In this case anorexia and cutting. I guess I’ll skip season 3. Too bad bc season 1 was nice and I want to see us portrayed in the MSM.
LumpyPillows
I thought season 3 was better than season 2 actually. I suggest watching it.
Karlis
I binge watched both seasons of “Heartstopper” a few weeks ago, and although I, too, found myself wishing that something like that had happened to me when I was in high school, it didn’t, and so I could just watch the show for what it was — a lovely story of two young men finding themselves. I personally am very much looking forward to season 3.
whitenoiz
But Hearttstopper does have a romance for the older guys who missed out on this generation;s openness. It fills a lot less screentime than our protags but there is a romance between the teachers Mr. Farouk and Mr Ajayi. Mr. Farouk specifically in the show explains he didn’t even know he was gay until his late 20’s. So there is that aspect as well. (Plus he’s played by a stunningly handsome Nima Taleghani!!! And his love interest, Fisayo Akinade, ain’t too shabby either!) Also there is representation for the aro/ace community as well iin the character Isaac. When have we ever seen an asexual on TV, in the movies?
johnny15
Then don’t watch. This is a really wonderful show.
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DavidIntl
Interesting to see the comments here leaning so strongly against the Reddit comments that are the basis for the article, when I find myself largely agreeing with them. I haven’t watched the show, mainly because I rarely have time to watch anything, but from what I have read about it I can imagine it would indeed be bittersweet.
I tend to date younger guys, and recognise that on some level I am jealous of the positive experiences they are having in their youth that just weren’t a possibility when and where I grew up. And yes, that has definitely had a significant impact on my happiness to this day.