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Jane Fonda Says She’s Seen Too Many Lives Destroyed By Homophobia

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I’ve lived a long time, 20 years of that time was in the south, and I have seen too many lives destroyed and distorted by homophobia. I pray with all my heart that I live to see the day when people can come out freely, safely and be accepted by every strata of society.”

 

Liberal screen great Jane Fonda presenting the Outfest Visionary Award to Lee Daniels, who directed her ironic performance as Republican First Lady Nancy Reagan in The Butler

 

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44 Comments

  • Merv

    Considering the fact that she became a born again Christian years ago, shouldn’t she be pointing that finger at herself?

  • DarkZephyr

    @Merv: that doesn’t make any logical sense. You can’t blame an entire group of people for the actions of some. If she is against homophobia she’s against homophobia.

  • Merv

    @DarkZephyr: It’s great that Oskar Schindler undertook some efforts to protect some Jews from the organization he belonged to, but he’s culpable for joining that organization in the first place.

  • Homophile

    @Merv:

    Your negativity is boring.

  • jckfmsincty

    I can’t say that she is a truly great actress, but her Oscar for “Klute” in 1971 is one of the most deserved ever awarded.

  • Kangol

    @Merv:

    She was born again, but not homophobic. I can’t think of a single time she’s been unmasked as a homophobe. If you know of anything along those lines, please do let me know. I really would be disappointed in her, since I’ve long heard she was a gay ally.

  • arj

    Sorry, Fonda. While your comment on “seeing too many lives destroyed and distorted by homophobia” may be commendable, it was YOUR comments during your visit to Hanoi, North Vietnam, your publicity photos sitting on North Vietnamese anti-aircraft batteries, and your betrayal of an American POW who tried to give you a note for his loved ones by giving that note to his captors resulting in a severe beating by his guards after you returned to US ground that make me ill.

    Go to hell.

  • Merv

    @Kangol: Taking on the moniker of “Christian” carries with it the presumption of homophobia:

    If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
    -Leviticus 20:13

  • EdgarCarpenter

    @Merve Yes, many xians also think the old testament is still valid. But others don’t. And there’s no way to tell which are which without asking them. Fonda doesn’t.

    I think Christianity in most of it’s flavors is a violent and destructive institution – but I’ve known lots of gay-positive and gay-supportive (and gay) people who identify as Christians. When their actions are all gay-supportive, I can’t tar them with Leviticus or Paul, since they actively repudiate anti-gay interpretations of the bible.

    There are an estimated 20,000 to 30,000 different sects of Christianity in the world. It’s really hard to keep track of them all! So we should be cautious using our own versions of “what Christianity means” to attack specific LGBT supporters.

  • DarkZephyr

    @Merv: That is from the Jewish scriptures, so am I to assume that you are an Anti-Semite as well as an Anti-Christian? After all, this has to be the case if you are consistent. Kind of makes your attack on Schindler pretty ironic.

  • 2eo

    @Merv: Well said Merv, there’s nothing wrong with being anti religion, don’t let them draw you into believing you were attacking the people irrationally.

  • Franklin

    @arj: That soldier passing her a note story is a urban legend. Yes there is plenty to be mad about with Jane Fonda and Vietnam, but she has apologized for what was said and done during that time, and has dealt with the fall out from that in a very classy way. I mean there are still people that come up to her and spit in her face because of what she said 40 years ago. I think it’s time we let it go, and I’m a vet.

  • 2eo

    This is an American site so we none Americans can’t say what we really think in relation the Fonda/Vietnam issue as it just ends up in death threats.

  • MikeE

    Jane Fonda is not, nor has she ever been a “born again” christian in the way it is being described by Merv’s comments. She is against fundamentalism. Read about it in her own words:

    http://janefonda.com/about-my-faith/

    As for the myth about Fonda being a traitor, how about a bit of easy research? it took me all of 30 seconds to find the truth about that myth:

    http://www.snopes.com/military/fonda.asp

    As for Merv’s wonderful out-of-context quote of the old testament, he forgets that most of that passage is in the Rabbinical laws, meant for priests of the Temple, and not for the common populace. If any christians insist on quoting that as their reason for being homophobic, then it’s a breeze to blow them off with a simple few lines from elsewhere in that very same chapter.

  • stanhope

    Oh for God’s sake…yes for God’s sake! Jane Fonda is a great human being. She has always been true to herself and yes, sometimes she has been wrong. To the best of my knowledge, she has owned up to those mistakes. Her childhood was not an easy one…remember her own Mother committed suicide. Let us accept the words from her heart where she is supportive of the gay community and not split hairs that need not be split. Sometimes my brethren make just make me sigh.

  • guest4ever

    Someone who opposes homosexuality is tarred and feathered as a “homophobe” and a “bigot” and “hateful”…

    While those involved in this suicidal and destructive lifestyle are celebrated?

    Isaiah 5:20 “Woe unto them that call evil good and good evil…”

    Homophobia and homophobe are junk words… made up to ward off legitimate criticism of a lifestyle that lands people’s souls in Hell.

  • MikeE

    @guest4ever: let’s see… you yourself are calling LGBT people “evil”? And doesn’t that make you think, even for an instant, that MAYBE, just maybe, YOU are the one who is calling evil good and good evil?

    Has it crossed your mind that maybe God sent tornadoes and hurricanes as a warning that he is angry with all of the so-called christians who have perverted His will and His commandments? He never taught hatred and anger and intolerance.

    How goes that Mahatma Gandhi quote again:
    “I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”

    Don’t call yourself a christian if you insist on calling hatred and intolerance a “value”.

    By the way, there’s nothing “suicidal” or “destructive” about being LGBT.

    What’s destructive and pushes people to suicide is the HATRED that people like you promote. The despair that YOU bring out in people. Doesn’t that make YOU the bad guy? Yeah, it does.

    You follow the false god. You preach from the false testament. You are everything that Christ was NOT. He would not have approved of your “beliefs” at all. He would have probably thrown you out of the Temple.

    You should spend more time studying what Christ said, rather than listening to what your bigoted, hateful, lying preachers are telling you.

    P.S. yeah yeah, I know I’m basically banging my head against a brick wall… (sort of like responding to Fagburn), but it’s cathartic.

  • 2eo

    @guest4ever: Sometimes I’m glad the hurricanes I cause kill christians by the thousand.

  • BJ McFrisky

    @arj: Glad someone besides me is intelligent enough to recognize Hanoi Jane as being the traitor she is who cares more about her public image than she does about POWs. Typical liberal hypocrisy, like when the Left was staging anti-war protests across the country during Bush’s administration . . . but when Obama came into power and continued the wars . . . crickets . . . crickets . . . crickets . . . (that’s the sound of liberal hypocrisy).

  • MikeE

    @BJ McFrisky: What exactly makes Jane Fonda a “traitor”? Speaking up against an unjust war? Speaking up about the countless young men being sent to their deaths? Speaking up about the obvious pro-war financial agenda behind that particular war?

    How about the Banks who stole billions from Americans? Are they traitors in your eyes?

    How about the Republicans who routinely act to remove rights from minorities in the United States? Do they count as traitors to you?

    BJ, if you weren’t so laughably ridiculous… oh keep up the good work. You put smiles on peoples’ faces and remind them that there are ALWAYS people stupider and more self-centered than themselves.

  • MikeE

    @BJ McFrisky: By the way, I’ll take your “Liberal hypocrisy” ANY day over Conservative lies, theft, and corruption.

  • 2eo

    @MikeE: The problem with reality is that it has a well known liberal bias, hence why BJ and his cohorts make up stuff about “crickets” and why Obama is secretly the muslim imam of Atlantallahakhbar and masterminded 9/11 and Pearl Harbour.

    Both of which BJ is on record as blaming him for.

  • BJ McFrisky

    @MikeE: Nice try attempting to make it seem like Hanoi Jane is a victim of the Evil Right, but facts are facts. In case you forgot, Mikey, Vietnam was started by JFK and perpetuated by LBJ, making it a Democrat’s war. I know how desperately the Left tries to cloak that fact, and how angry it makes you that facts get in the way of your ideology, but it’s all well-documented. Look it up.
    And by the way, if you’re so adamant about preventing “countless young men being sent to their deaths” during war, then why do you support Barack Obama and his killer drones? Why do you support a man who’s continued on the warpath? Have you ever questioned why Obama-appointee Jeffrey Immelt is making millions off the war in Afghanistan? Yeah, that’s what I thought. Stay clueless, my friend. Stay clueless (it’s the only way the Dems will stay in power).
    Final point: “Lies, theft and corruption” perfectly describes our current administration. Lied about every scandal that hit them, stole the American Dream out from under peoples’ feet, and corrupted, well, pretty much every arm of government—especially the culture of entitlement.
    Glass houses, and all that.

  • vklortho

    @guest4ever: lol u mad bro?

    I know coming out as trans is a lot different coming out as gay, but I have had a lot of support from progressive religious people(whether christian, catholic, jewish, or UU) in my life and most of the hate has been from rather secular people who have been horrible and just end up using the y chromosome/inability to get pregnant thing as an excuse for their hatred. The problem isn’t religion or science or whatever, it’s a**holes.

  • Rockery

    @vklortho:

    I’m laughing at you for even replying to an obvious attention seeking comment

  • vklortho

    @Rockery: All I said was “lol u mad bro”. The rest of it was in response to the other parts of the thread.

  • Rockery

    @vklortho:

    yes…… how does that change anything that I said?

  • AuntieChrist

    @guest4ever: Woe unto them that conveniently quote scripture to justify their hate…[email protected]Merv: That quote is taken out of context and has an entirely different meaning…It has absolutely NOTHING to do with gay sex…[email protected]2eo: I think you meant to say non-Americans. Most Americans are brain dead sycophants addicted to pop culture and fast food. I may be one of a handful of Americans who is embarrassed for being one.

  • nixiotemba

    on the Vietnam topic, I still stand shoulder on shoulder with Mohammed Ali, who’s reach I happen to share

  • Degas

    @Merve: I’ll bet she has made peace with a lot of the Bible, like a lot of sensible Christians. Read this about woman being virgins before marriage.

    Deuteronomy 22:20-21

    If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the young woman’s virginity can be found, 21 she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done an outrageous thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father’s house. You must purge the evil from among you.

    We don’t hear the religious right thumping on the Bible about this little morsel. Anyway, in the simplest sense, a Christian can be a person who tries to live by the teachings and message of Christ. Love, charity, forgiveness, and not judging.

  • emlodik

    @arj:
    You do realize that the “love note” story is just an urban legend, right?

  • Degas

    @BJ McFrisky: I’ve been wondering about you…You’re not really Rush Limbaugh or something, are you? I mean, you do like d*ck, or you wouldn’t be on Queerty? It’s just that you sound an awful lot like my brother, who listens to Rush and has very similar views to you. That’s fine and all for my brother, because It serves him well in the white, straight male world.

    Anyway, to each his own. But, to throw the baby out with the bath water mentality in terms of the gains the LGBT community has gained because of any liberal media bias or policy is insane. Were it not for the liberals, the freaks, the parades, the rallies, the television shows, the every-day gay folk living their lives, what rights would we have today? You seem to have this, “I’m not THAT kind of gay man” mentality. Look, if you like d*ck, you’re, gay. How you live your life is your business. How others live theirs, is their business. But if it were up to the likes of Rush Limbaugh, you wouldn’t be having any business at all as a gay man.

    Fonda has said repeatedly that what she did in Vietnam is unforgivable and will regret it to her grave.

  • 2eo

    @Degas: He’s doing what he always does, when he’s confronted and shown to be a right wing stooge and not the “libertarian who just happens to attack every democrat, left wing person and defend every anti gay subhuman” he claims he just stops posting for a few days.

    Rinse and repeat, though given who he associates with his life has gotten a LOT harder recently.

  • jonjct

    OMG, who cares about this dinosaur anyway? What an old bag, liberal extremist, batshizz cun*. The sooner this traitor bitc% drops dead the better off the world will be. Nobody gives a shizz what you’ve seen Jane, nobody cares.

  • Degas

    Off topic. Her son,Troy Garity, is in Soldier’s Girl, a movie based on a true story about an Army soldier falling in love with a transexual woman. It’s a very moving and tragic film.

  • BJ McFrisky

    @Degas: Rush Limbaugh? Dream on. The man’s an idiot. As is Jane Fonda, or any “actor” who lives in a millionaire’s bubble yet professes to be more politically astute than the public.

    @jonjct: Glad you said it and not me (otherwise I would have the wrath of 2eo and Degas and MikeE come down on me like the Leftist apologists of Stalin on steroids).

  • AuntieChrist

    @BJ McFrisky: Fonda said she had no regrets about the broadcasts she made on Radio Hanoi, something she asked the North Vietnamese to do: “Our government was lying to us and men were dying because of it, and I felt I had to do anything that I could to expose the lies and help end the war…..Her visits to the POW camp led to persistent and exaggerated rumors which were repeated widely in the press and continued to circulate on the Internet decades later. Fonda has personally denied the rumors. Interviews with two of the alleged victims specifically named in the emails found these allegations to be false as they had never met Fonda….Fonda has in the past practiced Transcendental Meditation with Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, and more recently has engaged in meditation at the Upaya Institute and Zen Center. Since 2001, Fonda has been a Christian, having converted from atheism…Post Script…I question your sexual orientation however there is no question that you are an idiot.

  • Degas

    @jonjct: Actually, nobody really gives a sh*t what YOU think. People do listen to her, though. Like her or hate her, and statements like hers are why public opinions change over time and why laws and policy change in our favor.

    @BJ McFrisky: Agree that Limbaugh is an idiot. It’s just that you seem to hold his views near and dear to your heart. Hey, put it out there, if this what you believe, but at least recognize that without the liberals you bash, you wouldn’t have even this forum in which you write, nor would you have a single right or protection you have as a gay man. I have no problem with a difference in political philosophy and actually like that you present a different view.

  • Gigi Gee

    @guest4ever: Proverbs 6:16-19 — “There are six things that the Lord hates,
    seven that are an abomination to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil, a false witness who breathes out lies, and one who sows discord among brothers.” Do you ever lie? Uh oh. You’re an ABOMINATION!!

    Matthew 7:2-5 — “For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.” Perhaps you should spend less time judging others and stop being a hypocrite.

  • BJ McFrisky

    @Degas: Specifically, what rights or protections have liberals implemented that I enjoy as a gay man? I can’t think of anything a liberal has done to better my life, but I can sure provide a lengthy laundry list of how they’re eager to control Americans’ lives. Please, enlighten me to the contrary.

  • jar

    @Degas: Degas, remember the W white house was crawling with closeted gay men, including their on-call hustler cum reporter [sic].

  • BrandoPolo

    This thread makes me happy that I’m not an angry evangelical atheist whose first thought is always something negative or an angry Republican constantly living in the past and whining about things no one cares about.

    Yay me! And yay Fonda!

  • Degas

    @BJ McFrisky: There are 1,138 rights that people who can legally be married have over those who can not. I don’t know your situation, but lets start here.

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