Remember when Piers Morgan whinged about being called cisgender on British television? We found his flag.
An image circulating on social media lately shows a “recugender” flag. According to the caption, to be recugender is “to identify with your birth gender but … refuse to be cis.” The term comes “from the Latin word ‘recuso,’ meaning ‘to refuse,’” the caption adds.
uhhh?? from Cringetopia
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Naturally, people were flummoxed by the flag. The image was posted to the subreddit r/Cringetopia and then crossposted to r/LGBT. “Is this just cis people being difficult because we aren’t special?” the crossposting user asked.
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“Why do so many people think cisgender is an insult?” another user replied. “It is literally a descriptor. Next, idiots will be calling themselves ‘aliusexual’ derived from ‘other’ because they are attracted to the opposite sex but don’t want to be labeled ‘straight’ or ‘heterosexual.’”
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Replied one commenter: “Don’t give them any ideas.”
PLAYS WELL WITH OTHERS
Dunno, Gay or straight…Male or Female or Trans (if so desired) seemed to be working fine….. Really can not see the need to continue to conjure up new designations…
TheMarc
Same. It doesn’t seem purely legitimate. For instance, I’ve never thought of a transwoman as a transwoman; I just think woman; because I thought that’s the designation that they were fighting for. Now, I have no idea. Certainly there’s a lot to be said in support of trans rights and protections; but all these alphabet extensions is getting cumbersome and frankly, isn’t very defensible.
Unlikely
I have never been called “cis-” or “cisgender” without venom and hate. The only people who use it as a neutral descriptor are sociologists.
greybat
The colors are very 1980s. One might think that Recugeneralists haven’t left the house in thirty years.
Desertmuscle8
I have no clue what this is all about.. Are we all supposed to identify with a new description of what? my sexuality? what is my position, do I talk gay? and for whom is this for..I think social media is going nowhere with this labeling; help me out guys. I am a gay guy, like ballet, football (American) and soccer and most sports except ping pong. I like dancing, am very liberal, I drive homeless folks to doctor appointments..no, not all the time but, I do it often. I like drag shows, not one myself. My parents are passed but, we loved each other and they traveled and visited with all of my partners..(3) My sis is a Lesbian and a CEO. I like dogs and cats and walk anyone across the street if they need assistance..its how I was brought up. Somtimes I pay for someones groceries if they are short funds. I am not doing any of my daily routienes for a better place in thee afterlife; as I believe there is none…
So, what am I?
I am Thad
RIGay
Right there with you. I am so over having to look up what some gender definition is every time something new gets posted.
It’s like – serious eye roll, whatever.
Den
Cisgender is simply a term used to refer to someone who is not transgender. It is completely pointless as far as i can see. So a cismale is a person born physically a male, and self defined as such; as opposed to a transmale who would have been born physically female but had gender reassignment so as to bring their self-perceived gender into allignment with their physical body.
The term does not relate to any other aspects of one’s personality or presentation and is not a description of anything beyond gender. As such male vs. transmale are the only terms needed.
mr guy
Hmm…this along with circumgender.. how’s that “Acceptance without exception”? it’s almost like you don’t really believe that …it’s almost like this gender identity ideological claptrap is pulled out of your asses
JaredMacBride
Nonsense like this = votes for Trump and his kind.
jayceecook
While I don’t agree with this nonsense, which probably was created by some LGBTQ troll for kicks, I also don’t like the term cisgender nor do I like being called that. As a medical term that supposedly became popular in the 90s I guess it has a place when differentiating between trans and non-trans.
My problem is that people who are non-trans didn’t adopt the word or any derivative of it to represent themselves. There wasn’t a moment where the majority of said people embraced the term as a self identifier. It was mostly imposed upon non-trans people *by* Trans and Non-Binary folks. As another person commented, it is rarely used as a non-pejorative in our society. It’s just another way to point to a person’s supposed privilege. As if the moment someone identifies you as “Cis” you lose the right to have an opinion, express your POV, essentially you are denied your voice. And what about intersex people? Doesn’t the whole trans-cis label create a binary sex model that does not account for intersex people’s existence?
I don’t need recugender or cisgender or any other word to define my sex. If it is information that someone HAS to know simply ask, “Are you trans?” I’ll reply with a polite, “No.” Then we move on. Why is that not enough?
Donston
That’s pretty much my issue as well. If a group of people don’t embrace an identity then who are you to try and force it on them? I’ve referred to myself as “cis” a few times. I don’t mind it. But I’m not about to force everyone to see it that way. This does reek of the social media portion of the “lgbtq community” constantly needing validation, constantly needing to vilify someone and trying to force everyone to see gender, sexuality, orientation and identity exactly the way they do. (I just don’t see this type of stuff in “real life”). But hell, the “queer community” can’t really form a consensus when it comes to gender, orientation and identity. How about we leave the straight, “cis” people out of identity politics and focus on merely asking for respect and acceptance out of them?
Rock-N-RollHS
I don’t care what someone calls me; I can easily ignore it.
And people can call themselves anything they want: he, she, they, zir, it. Doesn’t mean I’m gonna reciprocate. I only use he and she. Done.
SoOverThis
All these stupid terms are absolutely dumb and unnecessary. It’s all a pathetic means of getting attention and I refuse to use any of them.
iminheatlikeacat
“Why do so many people think cisgender is an insult?” another user replied. “It is literally a descriptor. Next, idiots will be calling themselves ‘aliusexual’ derived from ‘other’ because they are attracted to the opposite sex but don’t want to be labeled ‘straight’ or ‘heterosexual.’”
No they won’t be calling themselves that. They will be calling themselves straight and heterosexual, like they are doing now. You, “another user”, are the idiots insisting on ‘cis’ and other ridiculous terms the vast majority of us don’t care about.
Tucsontom
I’ve always believed people should be called what they want to be called. Black, African American, or People of Color? It’s up to the people those monikers describe. I have never referred to myself as a “cisgender male.” It’s not a term I use to describe myself, and it’s not OK for others to pin a label on me I haven’t chosen.
inbama
If everyone is nonbinary, how do trans and cisgender people even exist?
Brian
I’m pretty sure this is a commentary on the ridiculous nature of gender politics today and not an actual thing.
Polaro
We cannot let the crazies destroy everything we have struggled for so they force their fantasy life on us.
furryfuzzynavel40
“Sir! Are you classified as human?”
….. (response)
“Negative…, I am meat popsicle.”
Dymension
Whatever. Life was so much simpler once upon a time.
Den
I do not understand the point of the words cisgendered, cis-male or cis-female. If people want to refer to themselves as transgender, transmale of transfemale, that is fine as it describes a change from their original physical gender. But people born and comfortable with a specific gender, are simply that gender and need no additional descriptor, nor is it clear that they should be assigned one.
So…people born male and self-defining as such are male/men; and people born female who define themselves as male and go through reassignment are male/men, except where qualifying their origins is necessary or polite (such as situations where the possibility of physical intimacy is there to prepare others for what otherwise might be a very uncomfortable situation, or give them the opportunity to defer).
It is not even clear that all people who have been through sex reassignment surgery (to whatever extent) need to want to be labeled as trans except when absolutely necessary. I know a couple of women who simply want to assimilate as women, finally physically resembling what they have known themselves to be their entire lives. They tell nobody but their closest friends and advise friends from “before” to keep the knowledge to themselves. And that is fine too, its their life and their choice.
Jimony
The problem that I see is that no one ever saw a need for the label for thousands of years. This is a label that is being IMPOSED upon a group of people by others – not so unlike white people deciding to call black people the N word or straight people calling gays F*gs. Transgendered people decided that is how they want to be referred to, which is great and their choice. But it doesn’t then give them the right to extrapolate that into a label for non trans people. Of course there is going to be resistance when ‘others’ decide how they want to refer to you.
Aires the Ram
I agree with most of the posters above, but I look at it in much simpler terms.
If you are born male, all you have to do is reach down the front of your pants to remind yourself of it.
If you are born female, all you have to do is reach down the front of your pants to remind yourself of it.
If you choose, after you reach adulthood, to switch/change to the opposite gender of what you were born, fine by me. But don’t push all these ridiculous labels down everyone’s throat because somehow you CHOOSE to be butt-hurt. And don’t you dare tell me that a mere child has “decided” to be of the opposite gender of what they were born, that is pure unadulterated but&s&h**t.
Cam
Nice try.
So in one posting we have the….
Living your life is forcing it on people
And the ever popular…. WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN?!?!
Cam
I pointed out that this article seemed to be taking a non-issue and trying to inflame it, no “dirty words” and my comment got screened.
Fang
I think labels are useful to a point–having a label validates your experience with the world because it lets you know other people share that experience. But the label becomes oppressive when it stops to describing what you do and it becomes a nonmalleable stamp of who you are. The irony of identity politics is that many groups seek inclusion, yet the self-identification practices are inherently exclusionary. The result being that there are so many factions and experiences we end up drawing a conclusion we always knew–that we have a shared humanity that takes different forms, that love and respect should be inherent regardless of self-expression. Further categorization and isolation do not bring us closer to this truth.
Josh447
Not to mention the word cisgender sounds like pink cow crap++, it’s not a word that straits or bis consider theirs. From their point of view, it’s the fags++ acting up again, causing more division than ever.
I suggest it stop being used. Call people out if they use it and tell them to stop, as it’s hurting the unifying cause.