A gay Spanish couple tried to single-handedly take on a crowd of neo-nazis this weekend, and things didn’t exactly go well for them — although given history as a precedent, it certainly could have gone worse.
Their names are David Fernandez and Gregor Eistert, and they never intended to take a stand against fascism. They were just on a date in Malasana, a trendy little neighborhood, when an anti-immigrant stormed past.
At that point, David and Gregor decided to make out. And sure, what could be more romantic than a crowd of dangerous-looking men screaming about keeping out foreigners and brandishing photos of Franco?
As one might expect, the neo-nazis got a little perturbed when they spotted two gay men kissing. Eventually a policeman wandered over to tell them “that’s enough” and made the two men leave.
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So there you have it! Love wins! Except it doesn’t, since the gay couple were the ones forced to leave and the neo-nazis were allowed to continue on their way.
Then again, what if they’d been allowed to keep kissing and the crowd grew violent? Obviously the nazis are the bad guys here — it isn’t even necessary to clarify that point — but were David and Gregor ready to go to the hospital (or worse) for the sake of a two-man kiss-in? Sometimes you have to pick you battles, and one little make-out session was probably never going to be powerful enough to force the dissolution of a racist rally.
Next time, organize an orgy!
Bob LaBlah
I wonder how many of those neo-nazi’s in that crowd were aware that without Ernst Rhome and his brutality Adolf Hitler would have never come to power. I say no more but for those of you who are wondering who Ernst was he is well worth the google search. And mind you, his era was in the 1930’s.
Billy Budd
Yes, the early Naaazee party was filled up to the roof with butch gay guys. It was only later that the fuhrer decided to get rid of them. There are scholars who insist that the fuhrer himself was gay.
crowebobby
And while you’re googling, make a note of what happened to him in the end. With Trump in the White House, we may be in for a similar if not quite so extreme backlash, not because Trump is virulently antigay, but because everyone who is will take his presidency as a tacit agreement with all their worst convictions. (“Scholars” who insist the Fuhrer was gay probably believe it is the worst thing they can say about him.)
Paco
The cop is screwed either way.
If he just stood by and allowed the two men to stand there poking a bee hive and possibly inciting violence against them, then they will blame the police for not protecting them from an already angry mob. But instead he gets called out for making the two guys move on for the safety of everyone, rather than try to get the angry crowd to disperse because two men decided it would be fun to try and instigate something in an already volatile situation.
GC1985
The police looked as if they were on edge and had asked them to leave because of the situation. It could have turned into a riot. These neoNazis don’t seem to read and see the damage Francisco Franco did to the country.
Record Man
@Bob LaBlah: Hitler also gave Francisco Franco crucial support when he needed it the most during the Spanish Civil War. Without it, he and the Falangists probably wouldn’t have defeated the republicans.
Hun
What if the crowd joined in? Nah, nevermind. That could only happen in France.
Sluggo2007
I’m sure I’ll catch hell for this, but I don’t care for public displays of affection whether they be straight or gay.
Bob LaBlah
@Record Man: Spain has been searching for its identity since the late 1890’s after it lost Cuba, Puerto Rico and the Philippines in less than two years. Not only did that signal the end of an empire it could no longer sustain nor defend but it also signaled the end of them as a country that really mattered in world affairs. Think for a minute; even after Franco took over why did the allies (or the world for that matter) see Spain as something more to be avoided than invaded? What does that tell you about Spain’s importance on the world stage?
The frustration of its people is well deserved. As the saying goes the higher they fly………you know the rest.
Billy Budd
@Sluggo2007: It is OK if you don’t like doing it yourself because of shyness or conservativeness (does this word exist). But if you are telling us that gay guys should not hold hands or kiss in public, you are being unfair, nasty, and prejudiced. I say this because straight people are allowed to do this in public and have been doing it for decades. If they can do it, why can’t we? I like performing public displays of affection with my boyfriend and I am proud to do it. I deserve the right to do it. I will continue doing it no matter what.
GC1985
@Bob LaBlah: Spain stayed out of the war. They were neutral because while Franco was brutal, he wasn’t stupid. He knew Hitler went way too far with expansionism and that once the US got involved it was over. You know as little about Spain as you do with Colombia. Stick to discussing politics in the state of Kentucky or where ever you live.
The frustration of Spanish people basically destroyed the PP and sent it reeling. The country took a sharp left ward turn in recent elections. Your American exceptionalist attitude is also a major problem. It distorts your view of reality. Believe me, Spanish people are proud even with their economic problems. They would never let an idiot like Donald Trump get as far as he has (his attacks on Hillary reek of desperation).
GC1985
https://www.thespainreport.com/stories/3-150726170313-spanish-general-election-2015
Podemos and the PSOE have brokered a deal along with the Unites Left. This is the coalition that is likely to form as the three have enough to stop the PP from further destroying the country. The PP is much like the Republican party and has overstayed its welcome.
Spain is set to take a left ward turn like Portugal. Years of libertarian lies such as austerity has left the country devastated. Austerity is a failure and hinders development.
These neoNazi scum are angry because they know they are on the losing end.
Bob LaBlah
@GC1985: Even though I said nothing about Colombia thank you for confirming what I said about a frustrated people. The only legacy Spain leaves the world is its language.
Billy Budd
@Bob LaBlah: What about Dali, El Greco, Goya, Picasso and Miro? What about Miguel de Cervantes and many others?
GC1985
@Bob LaBlah: Spain left rich culture, history and knowledge. As well as having an impact (for better or for worse) around the world. You are completely wrong. But coming from the guy who has no culture or integrity, not a surprise really.
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Bob LaBlah
@Billy Budd: Great artists indeed they all were, but so was the caveman.
Bob LaBlah
@GC1985: “Spain left rich culture, history and knowledge.”
After wiping out the culture of the conquered it would APPEAR to be the case, but was it really? As I said before and say again thank you for showing your ignorance and I am sure you will keep it coming.
GC1985
@Bob LaBlah: Ignorance? Coming from a clueless xenophobe who comes from a country with no real culture rather ironic. You are an ignoramus and you don’t know anything about Spain. Shut up while you still can… Or are you going to bury your own foot further into your mouth? Stupid might work with other republicans, but won’t work with most people.
You are a deeply ignorant pathetic man who doesn’t know anything about the world… The most you know is in your own backyard.
Billy Budd
@Bob LaBlah: Your comparison of great universal artists with cavemen is utterly absurd and shows your ignorance and biased views. You know nothing about art. There are millennia of culture and tradition separating cavemen from these great artists.
GC1985
Also one should consider several factors… I am better educated and more well traveled. I have visited Spain on numerous occasions. The country is deeply rich in identity and culture. The architecture, the people, the food and the culture is unmatched. America doesn’t come close. The US manages to commit gross mistakes like a bastardization of Italian and Spanish food. You come from a country with no real identity and no real impact on other countries (asides from blowing them up).
Bob McBlah… Cultureless, clueless and ignorant all rolled into one. The man probably comes from a town of strip malls and liquor stores. But he thinks he is some sort of historian who can get on a pedestal and criticize other countries.
GC1985
@Bob LaBlah: You are an idiot. End of story.
Bob LaBlah
@Billy Budd: “There are millennia of culture and tradition separating cavemen from these great artists.”
Indeed there are millennia separating great cave artist from the artist they inspired. I couldn’t agree more.
Bob LaBlah
@GC1985: And you wear smelly panties. End of story.
Sluggo2007
@Billy Budd: In no way did I imply that gay guys should not hold hands or kiss in public. I merely stated that I, personally, don’t like public displays of affection, especially when it is done to show off. You need to take a reading comprehension class and also see a psychiatrist to find out why you are so defensive.
GC1985
@Bob LaBlah: You fell apart rapidly. Spain… A country with centuries of history, art, architecture, and culture… Compared to a country that doesn’t even have a culture. Well you do have liquor stores and strip malls. Yes. You can’t fix stupid.
Bob LaBlah
@GC1985: Thank you for showing your ignorance once again. You weren’t taught in school about the Native American population that was not only here but also in the Caribbean as well and all got nearly wiped out by Columbus and syphilis that he brought here to the Americas along with other diseases Native Americans had no immunity to. You amount to nothing else but a dumb descendant of a lowly deck hand who knew of nothing else but obeying orders of his master, the ships captain.
GC1985
@Bob LaBlah: You are about as dumb as a rock. You are probably descended from British settlers. England wiped out millions around the world, including committing mass atrocities in India. You are stupid. You are ashamed because your own country has no real identity or culture. What is American white guy culture anyways? As I said… Strip malls and liquor stores. Get off your lazy rear and go do something productive. You call me ignorant? Typical from an idiot who supports Trump. A bloodthirsty crook who supports butchering Syria.
Stupid supremely disgusting ignorant hypocrite.