During a recent episode of the web series Cocktails With Queens, actress LisaRaye McCoy made some truly vile remarks about bisexual men, including labeling them “suspects” and calling for them to be outed.
McCoy was speaking with co-hosts Claudia Jordan, Syleena Johnson, and Vivica A. Fox about Andrew Gillum, the former Florida Democratic gubernatorial candidate who came out as bisexual in an interview with Tamron Hall this week.
McCoy began by suggesting Gillum would have been better off staying in the closet forever.
“You know what? I just, I think it’s so unfortunate because when you get busted, you know, and then you’re just forced to come on out with it, and it’s almost like he could’ve pleaded the fifth still,” the Single Ladies actress said.
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Then she suggested he’s not really bisexual, he’s actually gay.
“Now he’s gotta come on out and say, well, you know what, I’m not completely completely gay, I’m just bi,” she said, prompting all the other women on the panel to burst out laughing.
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Then Fox, who has quite a long history of homophobia, did something surprising. She spoke out in support of sexual fluidity, saying it’s “the world we are living in.”
“People are fluid,” she remarked. “They are not afraid to love who they might want to that night, baby.”
Seconds later, however, Fox went on to demonize men who mislead women into thinking they are “over here and then you come to find out they’re on both sides.” To which, McCoy responded by saying, “They gotta be outed! They gotta be busted!”
Oh, but it gets worse.
McCoy then said women can test to see if their boyfriends and husbands are gay by “using your finger a little bit.” If the men react positively, Raye implied, it means they’re homosexual. To which the panel once again responded by erupting into laughter.
Things took another turn for the worst a little while after that when Jordan asked if any of the women had ever dated men they thought might be gay or bisexual, to which McCoy stated that she had and “he’s still a suspect.”
“It ain’t came out, you know, but I’ve been hearing it in the business,” she remarked. “People told me. When we were even together people would look at us sideways and I didn’t know who they was looking at harder, me or him.”
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jayceecook
I wonder what her formerly famous lesbian sister has to say about her comments?
Norm
I bet they had sex together.
CityAce
They’re not in the closet gay guys. They have no opinion other than these mofo are gay.
Mister P
There are other men out there. No need to be a bitter bitch.
Liquid Silver
It’s too bad, I kind of like Fox’s trashy Lifetime movies when I’m doing something else (they make a good paying-half-attention-to distraction).
But I can’t let myself watch them knowing she’s as bad as she is with the homophobia.
CityAce
That down low gay shit need to cease
Kevan1
Ignorance abounds. Just because a man enjoys anal stimulation does not mean he’s gay or bisexual. These women are so behind in their thinking. I do agree with women that if a man is bisexual he needs to be upfront about it. Beyond that they need to get a clue. That’s as nice as I can say it.
vinnieboiblue
EXACTLY! More heterosexual men are coming to terms with their ass having pleasure zones connected to their dicks and ejaculation.
Donston
I don’t like people equating behaviors to orientation. There’s nothing inherently “gay” about anal play. While I’m tired of male same-sex dynamics being whittled down to anal sex. Attractions, arousal, passions, preferences, affections, emotional longing, emotional investment, romantic love, relationship contentment are all more than what you might stick in your body or what stick your dick in. Let’s also not be naive though. I don’t care about identity, and I’m very much an individualist who feels everyone has their own thing going on. But many of those “straight” guys who enjoy anal play are “queer” in whatever ways.
Creamsicle
Your largest sex organ is your brain. The orifices you do or don’t play with are irrelevant to sexual orientation.
And this kind of talk is actually why I think it can be harder to be proudly bisexual than proudly gay. All these women felt like they had permission to sling homophobic remarks as soon as they felt threatened by a man’s bisexuality, as if a man having sex with men somehiw diminishes their own femininity.
Donston
A lot of women (well, a lot of people) are just severely ignorant when it comes to gender, sexuality, orientation and mental health. You have a right to date who you want to date, and you deserve to know someone’s truths and dimensions if they’re trying to be with you. And I get a woman not wanting to be with a dude who’s into anal play. But even many “gays” equate “gay” to liking it up the ass. So many people don’t get that sexual arousal, attraction, desire, enjoyment, passion, preferences, comfort are all different aspects of sexuality. That doesn’t even touch on the romantic, affection, emotional investment, relationship contentment spectrum. It’s almost like people want things to be as simple as possible just to make their lives and viewpoints easier. Therefore, you still have folks equating “gay” to “liking it up the ass”. Just like you still have many guys who genuinely feel like they have hetero preferences because they can have sex with women or they get aroused by women. Yet, they still prefer persistent same-sex passions, affection, affirmation, romantic attention, comfort, relationships, investment. So many just don’t want educate themselves on how nuanced shit is because it means they’d have to look at people as individuals, have to re-define their general view of things and/or have to deal with their own dimensions.
Honestly, no one know the dimensions of Andrew’s orientation. Just like no one knows the dynamics between him and his wife or whatever things that may have motivated him in his life. But when these types of scandals get publicity it gives many women an opportunity to attach insecurities about their womanhood and their paranoias onto others. Instead, it should trigger a desire to educate yourself and dissect the many issues out here.
Donston
Like a lot of women she is choosing to demonize closeted men while not confronting the core issue. No one should be deceiving their partner, and doing so is never gonna make you a “good person”. And there are some guys who really don’t give a shit. They see women as playthings, baby makers, ego boosters and something to signify their status. Those types of men I have no sympathy for. But we have no idea what Andrew’s wife knew. So, the assumption that he was entirely closeted to her and she knew nothing about him hooking up with dudes is a stretch. We also don’t really know what is truly up his sexuality or sense of self. He’s a politician who got outed doing drugs and hooking up with escorts. So, unlike some sympathizers I’m not gonna take his word at face value. But we really don’t know what type of fluidity he has experienced or where he fits in the romantic, sexual, affection, emotional investment, relationship contentment spectrum.
You can’t just shit on “DL” dudes and not talk about what leads to most of them being that way. Tackle topics like homophobia, trans-phobia, fluidity, internalized homophobia, homo shame, gay insecurities, hetero pressures, the orientation spectrum, paraphiliacs, mental health issues. If you haven’t done your research and can’t properly discuss those topics then it’s best to STFU. Making a video about “down low” dudes is not something you should be doing unless you’re properly educated. Otherwise, like Ms Lisa, you will inevitably come off like a silly bitter bytch.
CurtisIsTheOne
WOW. What DONSTON said. And he said it SO WELL. Congratulations for hitting the nail with the hammer. You wins “the intranet” today, baby. Cheezburger!
Donston
I think one of the things Lisa is trying to get to is that using identity as a “get out of jail free” card is tired and cliche. Just be real about what life you want to live, your struggles, who you truly want to be with, and your dimensions as far as the orientation spectrum goes. Leaning on identity politics and “coming out” after getting caught does not make you a better person and it isn’t gonna help smooth things over under these circumstances. The problem is that she doesn’t seem to know much of anything about sexuality, orientation and how different types of fluidity works. Nor does anyone know what the dynamics between Andrew and his wife were. Nor does she seem to have any sympathy for how widespread homophobia, internalized homophobia, gay insecurities, hetero pressures, homo shaming, toxic masculinity, mental health struggles actually are. All of that makes whatever couple of points she does have go to shit.
Cam
EXACTLY! She wants to call out the victims of bigotry without talking about the bigotry.
Matthewnow
Why is it that ladies who are consider themselves entitled “celebrities” think they have the right to spew their ignorant thoughts. Bite me bitches and go back to skank town where you came from, OKAYYY!
vinnieboiblue
Sounds like the bitch is on her rags!
boymikefl
Scorned OLD, UGLY, dried out hags.
Essie
I seem to remember that Lisa Raye married a politician in the Caribbean who turned out to be bisexual. Or am I wrong? I don’t really keep up with lower-level actresses and theses bitches are definitely that, so I might be mistaken. But, all that noise coming out of their mouths make me dislike them. Yes, if a man is bisexual he should be upfront about it but that’s not easy in the Black community. I think Mr. Gillum deserves a little sympathy and understanding and I hope he’s getting that from his wife.
vinnieboiblue
I guess she makes men sick so they go with the dick.
jayceecook
No she married the first Premier of the Turks and Caicos Islands. He’s not bisexual but a serial cheater, possible rapist, and a corrupt politician who got bust for defrauding his government, fled the islands, got caught in Brazil by Interpol, and sent back to face the charges.
johnnymcmxxx
I guess she is some sort of actress (model? fashion designer?) I never heard of her and this is probably the only time I ever will.
Cam
What a bizarrely ignorant view, that because some guy likes some stimulation in his ass he’s gay. No, he’s gay because the person who he WANTS the stimulation from is male.
This woman needs to get over some of her baggage and read a few books.
Troysky
@Cam …..EXACTLY.
RandomGuy
Who?
ShowMeGuy
Exactly.
Doug
I watched this video, and I think it’s a very pro-gay discussion. Even LisaRaye McCoy comes around towards the end of it.
toddlicious
LisaRaye WHO????
rocknstan
Those nails must have been quite painful.
8millionandcounting
Crack is whack. And this 8th grade graduate is hitting it hard, uuuu’all.
jorgecruz
These four thots are like the Golden Girls of sidepieces. They have all been passed around more than a bottle of hand sanitizer. They didnt mind dating these “suspect” men when it was good for their careers. Now that they are past menopause, they want to be bitter.
jonasalden
The social and racial intersectionality of this is exhaustive. But I can guess who EVERYONE is in this comments section is by what they say. I’ve heard all the down-low tropes before and I hear you, but I’m going to guess that the majority of people leaving comments under this article are White gays who either do not understand or choose to ignore the complication that race (the Black community) presents. They just charge in! But that’s fine. They’ve got to practice their drag culture snaps somewhere.
LegionKeign
You’re the one who brought up race.
Who ever smelt it, dealt it, sweetie.
Goddess Bless and you S.U.C.K.
wl2172
Vile bigots! Why is it that only white people are labeled bigots when you have these hate-filled, homophobic African-American women spewing bigotry and hate? Makes no sense.
Sister Bertha Bedderthanyu
I have to congratulate her for using a tried and proven method to boost her ratings; simply insult gay men and send the insult to every mediocre publication that will post it and sit back and watch the clicks swell. Bravo. You go girl. It sure worked in this case, didn’t it?
strap2900
And who is she? Sounds like she’s had a few gay boyfriends and is bitter.
cuteguy
First of all, who are these old hags? The only one I sorta recognize is Claudia who I heard was fired after a year of some real housewives show. It’s sad that bisexual men continue to be demonized by these homophobic losers but bisexual women are accepted. And why is it that black ppl always seek acceptance yet are the most homophobic?
ChristopherEK
Bitch needs to learn proper English as well as piss off!
Mr C
What did Vivica say that was homophobic?
jayceecook
Queerty is referring to this, “The actress/media personality caused a stir in 2017 while promoting her Lifetime reality series Vivica’s Black Magic about an all-male stripper revue in Las Vegas. In a radio interview, Fox said gay men were not allowed at the show, saying, “Aw, hell no. Back all that up. No! NO!”
In response, her long-time producing partner, Jean-Claude LaMarre, cut ties with Fox, calling her remarks “out of order” and saying they did “not represent our attitudes toward the LGBT community.”
Though if you do a little Google search you will find a ton of shady comments where she uses homosexuality as a weapon to tear guys down. The most notorious being 50 Cent.
Ginger Tom
I never heard of her before. Unless she says something even more unhinged I may never hear of her again. It’s her call.
Cozmo2
OMG, is bi sexual still a thing. Just come out your not fooling anybody, YOUR GAY.