This morning, the Supreme Court voted 6-3 against hearing a case about whether state and local governments can enforce bans on conversion therapy for LGBTQ+ youth.
The case involved Brian Tingley, a licensed marriage and family counselor from Washington, who said not being allowed to offer conversion therapy to kids in an effort to change their sexual orientation or gender identity is a violation of his free speech.
Washington is one of 26 states that has either banned or restricted conversion therapy. Tingley’s lawyers argued that their client, who is a practicing Christian, lives in “continuous fear of government persecution” as a result his state’s ban.
Of the nine SCOTUS justices, three of them said they would have liked to hear Tingley’s case.
In his scathing five-page dissent, Clarence Thomas wrote that there’s “a fierce public debate over how best to help minors with gender dysphoria” and that the state had “silenced one side of this debate.”
(Fact check: This is simply not true. When it comes to conversation therapy, the debate has been settled for years. Countless human rights and medical organizations, including the American Psychological Association, American Psychiatric Association, and World Health Organization, have all denounced the practice. Some have gone so far as to declare it torture.)
Meanwhile, in a separate brief opinion, Samuel Alito added the case “presents a question of national importance.” Noting the number of states with laws against conversion therapy, 73-year-old Alito wrote that “it is beyond dispute that these laws restrict speech, and all restrictions on speech merit careful scrutiny.”
(Never mind the free speech of LGBTQ+ kids who don’t want to be subjected to bogus therapies aimed at changing who they are.)
The third justice who said he wanted to hear that case was none other than Brett Kavanaugh, who likes beer.
Since being appointed to the Supreme Court by one-term, twice-impeached, quadruply-indicted ex-president Donald Trump in 2018, 58-year-old Kavanaugh has proven that he’s no ally to LGBTQ+ people.
In 2020, he dissented in Bostock v. Clayton County, in which the court ruled 6-3 that sexual orientation and gender identity should be included in workplace nondiscrimination protections under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. The other two justices to dissent in that case were–surprise!–Thomas and Alito.
Now, in 2023, he’s shown that he thinks queer kids should be forced to endure psychological torture.
Thankfully, cooler heads on the court prevailed today when the majority of justices declined to hear the case, which means state and local laws banning conversion therapy will remain in place. Phew!
As is customary, the high court didn’t give a reason for declining the case. In response, an attorney with the Christian legal organization, Alliance Defending Freedom, called the decision a disappointment and said the issue “is not going away.”
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these mofos have to go. it’s horrible enough what’s happening in texas. people have to get out & vote. we’re at critical mass people. this isn’t a damn joke.
Review what happened…. Biden stopped the investigation into Clarence Thomas discounting Anita Hill’s truthful warnings. Then later, Democratic President Obama failed to force a senate vote on his candidate. Then even later the Democrats senators supported a Republican cheating tactic allowing the Trump’s choice to go forward. Then an elderly Democratic SC member refused the retire and allowed Trump to nominate a THIRD SC shill.
With all this cheating swirling about him, President Biden chose to maintain the Supreme Court size – instead of expanding the court to better represent the actual law. Timidity has not helped the Democrats (or is it that the DNC gets more donations every time our government fails.)
I love Democratic voters; however, our Democratic politicians seem to support Republican policy. We need fighters, not Republican-lite.
Ronbo, just a reminder: no US President can “force a vote” on a nomination if that President
1) does not have support from his own party if it controls the US Senate, and the Democrats did not control the Senate at that point, or
2) does not find support from the opposition party if it controls the US Senate, which was not going to happen, thanks to Mitch McConnell. He was intransigent and would not have approved ANY Obama nominee. NONE.
The US Constitution is not that long but it’s very clear about the separation of powers and who can do what when it comes to Senate votes on Executive Branch nominations. Obama, Trump, Biden and no one else can “force votes” in the Senate without the support of whichever party controls the US Senate. In Obama’s case in that situation, it was the GOP, not the Democrats. It’s well documented so please read up on it if you can.
As for expanding the US Supreme Court, it wasn’t going to happen no matter how hard Biden pushed. There are not enough Democrats in the House and Senate to support it. Some, yes. Enough, no. If you believe there are, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.
Speech that directly counters scientific facts are called lies. And while lying might be protected speech under the 1st Amendment, doing harm to others b/c of said lie is not.
Also marriage counselors seem to be a bunch of frauds anyway. I’ve known several people/couples that have used them to try and patch up their relationships. All ended in divorce.
Genetics is a bit more complicated than you regressive fools think it is. Clearly you would prefer that gay youth and trans youth commit suicide than get the kind of compassionate counselling and care they might need. Or maybe you just want to see them tortured and brainwashed. I remember as a college kid thinking seriously of suicide. People like you would have encouraged me to do so. That is how hateful you are!
To hell with and your effing lies about having been trans! You are gay and trans hating scum and everybody here with a firm tether to reality knows it. Why do folks like you even come here? We have no need for your ignorance and hatred. Are you so pathological that all you can do is express hatred for others?
Regressive. That’s an interesting word choice. A boy loves pink. Let’s trans him due to some marketing schema dictated in the olden days! Regressive much, Den? Your side is RIFE with gender stereotypes foisted upon us by marketing executives from the early 1900s. Get over yourself and look into the horseshoe theory. You’re folding upon yourself with those regressive conservatives, baby boy!
“Genetics is a bit more complicated than you regressive fools think it is. ”
That’s a nice dodge. No evidence to back up your rantings. Just ad-hominem attacks and conjecture. Find a new line, Den. It’s the same desperate shit on every post. Try to back up what you believe. It’s lazy.
And, also: Let me add that your side actively engages in telling de-trans individuals to commit suicide on Twitter/X. It goes both ways. Ex-gay therapy is very different from the de-trans conundrum. I have experience with both. Ex-gay therapy typically involved recording my voice to prove my masculinity. Your little version of left-wing conversion therapy with ‘gender-affirming’ care? A lefty therapist told me to rub cocoa butter all over my ass to unleash the inner woman inside. These issues are still gonna crop up and the government will have to keep playing referee. That is, until we have a DEFINITIVE answer from science. (That goes back to Point No. 1 if you’re too daft to follow along.)
“A boy loves pink. Let’s trans him due to some marketing schema dictated in the olden days! Regressive much”
Nobody says that but lying right wingers like you.
“baby boy!”
I’m 73, and have been progressive all my adult life, rather than a straight pissant like you here to harangue gay people.
“your side actively engages in telling de-trans individuals to commit suicide on Twitter/X.”
There are very few actual trans people and of them a vanishingly small number actually regret their decision. Were you not a lying piece of shit you’d know that. And I don’t go to x so don’t accuse me of that, straight boy. How many trans youth do you harass in the hopes they will kill themselves? Be honest .
“A lefty therapist told me to rub cocoa butter all over my ass to unleash the inner woman inside.”
Do you think people believe this sort of stupid lie? What kind of fool are you?
“Blah, blah, blah. You’re the one trans-ing kids over commercialized gender stereotypes from the early 1900s.”
What the hell is that supposed to mean straight boy? I’m not transing anybody, though I do have a number of trans friends. Do you actually know anybody who is trans? Have you ever spoken to anybody who is trans? I kind of doubt it. And please, stow the stupid lie about having been trans. I doubt anybody here actually believes that one! Go campaign for Trump, that is obviously your first love.
Yeahhhh. I typed in the phrase ‘my kid loves pink…trans?’ into Google. The first organization to come up in Google? GLSEN. And get this: It ain’t right-wingers that have a problem with your logic. There’s a whole thing called the LGB without the T movement. The world ain’t a simple black vs. white reality (except in your brain, apparently.)
I already posted this for you in another thread. Here it is again. Perk up your ears instead of dodging with rambling screeds.
From Big Think:
Previous research based on data collected prior to 2015 found that just 1% of people detransition after undergoing gender-affirming therapy. However, studies conducted in the past few years find that the rate is likely between 2% and 10%. The apparent increase could be due to reduced scrutiny before starting hormone therapy.
From a peer-reviewed JSM study (By actual scientists):
Thirty-six percent of de-trans patients overall didn’t return to the clinic after several years of treatment and were lost to follow-up.
I know the numbers. LIVED IT! I know trans people. I lived in a trans shelter in Los Angeles and received ZERO help in your benevolent utopia state. Hence, why I became more ‘conservative-leaning.’ My ex-roommate was a FTM. Now, you can say your usual crap. The fact remains there is an LGB without the T movement afoot. Dame Edna, the head of Stonewall UK….there are people in the LGBTQ community pushing back against your narrative. You can spout out your usual diarrhea stream of “regressives, MAGA, blah’ like some Howard Dean aspirant. But these are the facts in our current reality.
Here’s another study from Karolinska Institute, Karolinska University Hospital, Sahlgrenska University Hospital in Sweden (aka the country that modernized trans youth gender-affirming care):
The authors said the regret rate for patients in the last decade reviewed, from 2001 to 2010, may have increased over time. “The last period is still undecided since the median time lag until applying for a reversal was 8 years,” according to the study.
That’s two studies to your rambling tales and paranoia-laden MAGA this, MAGA that inane blatherings.
Not to mention the trans community adopted the light blue and pink for their flag back in 2000. “The blue represents boys, the pink represents girls.” These regressives are openly marketing the marketed gender stereotypes created by the early 1900s ad executives.
Creeps like Brett the frat boy drunk rapist would benefit by having a gay child. Their ignorant tone may change when it’s personal. Then again, he was a drunk frat boy rapist so maybe not.
“Creeps like Brett the frat boy drunk rapist would benefit by having a gay child. ”
If someone like him had a gay child, they would kick them out onto the street and state that it was “God’s will” if the kid fell into despair and killed themselves. That’s who he is.
Conversion therapy involves a lot more than speech. It also involves psychic and physical violence, masquerading as a pseudo-therapeutic practice, which is enacted and enforced upon vulnerable children, young adults and sometimes adults. That Alito, Thomas and Kavanaugh want a means to overturn the bans against it and allow it to flourish really says everything about how disgustingly homophobic and transphobic these three are.
If you’re convinced your effeminate son is trans, you need to move to a blue state. If you think he’s just gay and want to save him from teachers who’ll encourage him to join the pronoun club, he’ll be safer in a red one.
Pretty idiotic comment.
Most parents know their kids are trans because the kids say so. Or know the kids are gay because they say so, and in case you are not aware, most effeminate men are neither gay or trans: they are just effeminate by nature…DUH! And responsible parents get their kids the counselling and guidance they need to figure out what is the proper course of action for them. As for your stupid reference to “the pronoun club” you couid not be more of a fool if you were an evangelical! (which you very well might be, as you would not be the first scumbag to come here and try and p[ass themselves off as a gay man). Certainly you must have something better to do than to come here and demonstrate how ignorant you are and how devoid of empathy for others you are. You have the same mindset as MTG, Boubert, Tommy Tuberville, MAGA Mike, Clarence Thomas and Trump!
Because they say so! In no other field in modern medicine has the ‘because they said so!’ inane excuse been trotted out. Kids have also been sexually abused and say they’re trans. It sometimes doesn’t work out. Your logic cheese wheel is full of holes, Den. Try again.
Most parents know their kids are trans because the kids say so. Or know the kids are gay because they say so, and in case you are not aware, most effeminate men are neither gay or trans: they are just effeminate by nature…DUH!”
Uh huh. And where’s the science on this besides something you heard that one time on a blog somewhere? Pathetic.
“Uh huh. And where’s the science on this besides something you heard that one time on a blog somewhere? Pathetic.”
I don’t read blogs. Your imagination is not reality. That is a huge problem with you regressives. You cannot tell the difference between the real world and you magical thinking. Maybe you actually believe you were trans! That is one for the journals of psychology! But most likely you are just another heterosexual hater here to get a rise out of us. Clearly I don’t know that bur DAMN you sure fit the profile! And you would not be the first.
Judge Kavanaugh rape accuser admits she lied about being raped and that she admitted she never met the man.
Judy Munro-Leighton’s accusations, brought to light by none other Kamala Harris, has been referred for investigation for potential violations; materially false statements and obstruction.
It has been admitted by at least one Democratic member of the Judiciary Committee that from the outset top Democratic senators had been coordinating with the protesters – many of them paid – to disrupt the hearings and to create a false sense of outrage, some in the most despicable manner imaginable.
Could she provide where the party occurred? No. Who was at the party? No. How she got to the party? No. How she left the party? No. The names of anyone at the party? No. When the party occurred? No. Who did she attended with? No.
Ms. Ford couldn’t answer the simplest of questions regarding her “rape.” She was an utter embarrassment as she failed to answer any questions regarding her imaginary night.
Always has, always will. The central paradigm of the religion is that the brutal torture and murder of a rabbi somehow bought forgiveness for Christians. So the evangelicals LOVE torture, and worship pain and death. As the saying goes “there is no hate worse than Christian love.”
If parents think their kid is gay or trans they need to love and support him/ her and make informed choices that will the child to grow and thrive in all states.
These whack jobs need to mind their own business.
On the trans issue, how can they make informed choices when trans kids have only recently been in the pipeline for ten years? Plus, most ‘passing’ feminizing surgeries are 30 years down the road. There’s a lot an undeveloped mind cannot understand. And the state has an obligation to protect children.
Of the three Trump-appointed justices, super-religious wacko Amy Covid Bryant seemed to me to be the most likely to vote yes on this, not Kavanagh. Interesting that she was a “no,” although we’ll never know why.
It’s fascinating. The same left-wing cabal wants government officials to “censor and compel [viewpoint-specific] speech in their favor. The ADF attorney is correct. This issue is far from settled. If it were, you’d have stronger agreement from the court’s ‘moderates.’ Another matter that proves this debate isn’t settled: a growing segment of trans-ed gays and lesbians under the left-wing conversion therapy model known as gender-affirming medicine. And that issue is still being very much being decided. We are currently up to 15 lawsuits with various teenage de-transitioners. (And climbing.)
“left-wing conversion therapy model known as gender-affirming medicine. ”
I didn’t realize that you are THAT stupid! One of my best friends was pushed to a life of drug addiction and depression that scum like you wish on gay people as a result of conversion therapy. Why do “people” like you come here and tell lies about who you are? What pleasure do you get out of the pain and suffering you hope gay and trans youth endure? Do you actually pray for their suicides. I would not be surprised if you do.
Do you have anything to add besides storytime and name-calling? You couldn’t present science to back up your opinion and got called out. I just view this paragraph as a diarrhea squirt into Queerty’s toilet commode. Nothing more, nothing less.
I have not noticed you providing any science to back up your screed. And you are no less engaged in name calling than I am. Except my name calling is on the mark. Sad you hate trans folks and gay folks so much. You should just leave us alone, you’d be happier.
Childhood dysphoria is connected to homosexuality and homosexual transwomen. These are the transwomen who have atypicality in the gender region of the brain as do homosexuals.
Heterosexual transwomen do not. They are seldom effeminate and usually experience dysphoria (and transition) late in life after being successful businessmen, athletes, military men, husbands, fathers – a totally different profile from homosexual transwomen. Psychologists (not in the employ of the Gender Industry) call them “autogynephilic” – that is, they are aroused at the thought of themselves as women. Many report getting erections when they bein cross-dressing.
You can educate yourself by reading Dr. Anne Lawrence’s “Men Trapped In Men’s Bodies” free at her website annelawrencedotcom. She is, BTW, a transsexual herself.
It’s pretty obvious that Den is a paranoid schitz, not ready to hear NO from rational people regarding neopronouns and the ”don’t fck with me fellas!!!” trans activist approach to fitting in with society. Trans are being bumped out by their own nazi tactics and yes, LGBs have had it with their fktard, let’s streak the white house mentality. (YouTube transgender backlash)
I don’t want anybody dead but I want trans to disappear until they grow some consideration for how their weirdness affects the human race. The days of compassion are over. They blew it with their ‘we’re here, now fk off and obey’ belligerence. Get a grip “girl”.
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Mister P
OMG these sickos think free speech is about conversion therapy? This Supreme Court is drunk on power and they need to be reined in.
missvamp
these mofos have to go. it’s horrible enough what’s happening in texas. people have to get out & vote. we’re at critical mass people. this isn’t a damn joke.
dbmcvey
Once again, f this corrupt court.
still_onthemark
Why? They ruled against the conversion therapy loons.
dbmcvey
True. But you’ve still got Alito, Thomas and this knob. We’re lucky a few of the others decided not to go there.
Ronbo
Review what happened…. Biden stopped the investigation into Clarence Thomas discounting Anita Hill’s truthful warnings. Then later, Democratic President Obama failed to force a senate vote on his candidate. Then even later the Democrats senators supported a Republican cheating tactic allowing the Trump’s choice to go forward. Then an elderly Democratic SC member refused the retire and allowed Trump to nominate a THIRD SC shill.
With all this cheating swirling about him, President Biden chose to maintain the Supreme Court size – instead of expanding the court to better represent the actual law. Timidity has not helped the Democrats (or is it that the DNC gets more donations every time our government fails.)
I love Democratic voters; however, our Democratic politicians seem to support Republican policy. We need fighters, not Republican-lite.
Kangol2
Ronbo, just a reminder: no US President can “force a vote” on a nomination if that President
1) does not have support from his own party if it controls the US Senate, and the Democrats did not control the Senate at that point, or
2) does not find support from the opposition party if it controls the US Senate, which was not going to happen, thanks to Mitch McConnell. He was intransigent and would not have approved ANY Obama nominee. NONE.
The US Constitution is not that long but it’s very clear about the separation of powers and who can do what when it comes to Senate votes on Executive Branch nominations. Obama, Trump, Biden and no one else can “force votes” in the Senate without the support of whichever party controls the US Senate. In Obama’s case in that situation, it was the GOP, not the Democrats. It’s well documented so please read up on it if you can.
As for expanding the US Supreme Court, it wasn’t going to happen no matter how hard Biden pushed. There are not enough Democrats in the House and Senate to support it. Some, yes. Enough, no. If you believe there are, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.
ZzBomb
Speech that directly counters scientific facts are called lies. And while lying might be protected speech under the 1st Amendment, doing harm to others b/c of said lie is not.
Also marriage counselors seem to be a bunch of frauds anyway. I’ve known several people/couples that have used them to try and patch up their relationships. All ended in divorce.
decrans
Which lies are you referring to? Has there been a definitive gay gene that scientists have discovered yet?
Den
Genetics is a bit more complicated than you regressive fools think it is. Clearly you would prefer that gay youth and trans youth commit suicide than get the kind of compassionate counselling and care they might need. Or maybe you just want to see them tortured and brainwashed. I remember as a college kid thinking seriously of suicide. People like you would have encouraged me to do so. That is how hateful you are!
To hell with and your effing lies about having been trans! You are gay and trans hating scum and everybody here with a firm tether to reality knows it. Why do folks like you even come here? We have no need for your ignorance and hatred. Are you so pathological that all you can do is express hatred for others?
decrans
Regressive. That’s an interesting word choice. A boy loves pink. Let’s trans him due to some marketing schema dictated in the olden days! Regressive much, Den? Your side is RIFE with gender stereotypes foisted upon us by marketing executives from the early 1900s. Get over yourself and look into the horseshoe theory. You’re folding upon yourself with those regressive conservatives, baby boy!
decrans
“Genetics is a bit more complicated than you regressive fools think it is. ”
That’s a nice dodge. No evidence to back up your rantings. Just ad-hominem attacks and conjecture. Find a new line, Den. It’s the same desperate shit on every post. Try to back up what you believe. It’s lazy.
decrans
And, also: Let me add that your side actively engages in telling de-trans individuals to commit suicide on Twitter/X. It goes both ways. Ex-gay therapy is very different from the de-trans conundrum. I have experience with both. Ex-gay therapy typically involved recording my voice to prove my masculinity. Your little version of left-wing conversion therapy with ‘gender-affirming’ care? A lefty therapist told me to rub cocoa butter all over my ass to unleash the inner woman inside. These issues are still gonna crop up and the government will have to keep playing referee. That is, until we have a DEFINITIVE answer from science. (That goes back to Point No. 1 if you’re too daft to follow along.)
Den
“Regressive. That’s an interesting word choice.”
It is what you are, Backwards and backwards looking.
decrans
Blah, blah, blah. You’re the one trans-ing kids over commercialized gender stereotypes from the early 1900s.
Den
“A boy loves pink. Let’s trans him due to some marketing schema dictated in the olden days! Regressive much”
Nobody says that but lying right wingers like you.
“baby boy!”
I’m 73, and have been progressive all my adult life, rather than a straight pissant like you here to harangue gay people.
“your side actively engages in telling de-trans individuals to commit suicide on Twitter/X.”
There are very few actual trans people and of them a vanishingly small number actually regret their decision. Were you not a lying piece of shit you’d know that. And I don’t go to x so don’t accuse me of that, straight boy. How many trans youth do you harass in the hopes they will kill themselves? Be honest .
Den
“A lefty therapist told me to rub cocoa butter all over my ass to unleash the inner woman inside.”
Do you think people believe this sort of stupid lie? What kind of fool are you?
“Blah, blah, blah. You’re the one trans-ing kids over commercialized gender stereotypes from the early 1900s.”
What the hell is that supposed to mean straight boy? I’m not transing anybody, though I do have a number of trans friends. Do you actually know anybody who is trans? Have you ever spoken to anybody who is trans? I kind of doubt it. And please, stow the stupid lie about having been trans. I doubt anybody here actually believes that one! Go campaign for Trump, that is obviously your first love.
decrans
Yeahhhh. I typed in the phrase ‘my kid loves pink…trans?’ into Google. The first organization to come up in Google? GLSEN. And get this: It ain’t right-wingers that have a problem with your logic. There’s a whole thing called the LGB without the T movement. The world ain’t a simple black vs. white reality (except in your brain, apparently.)
decrans
I already posted this for you in another thread. Here it is again. Perk up your ears instead of dodging with rambling screeds.
From Big Think:
Previous research based on data collected prior to 2015 found that just 1% of people detransition after undergoing gender-affirming therapy. However, studies conducted in the past few years find that the rate is likely between 2% and 10%. The apparent increase could be due to reduced scrutiny before starting hormone therapy.
From a peer-reviewed JSM study (By actual scientists):
Thirty-six percent of de-trans patients overall didn’t return to the clinic after several years of treatment and were lost to follow-up.
I know the numbers. LIVED IT! I know trans people. I lived in a trans shelter in Los Angeles and received ZERO help in your benevolent utopia state. Hence, why I became more ‘conservative-leaning.’ My ex-roommate was a FTM. Now, you can say your usual crap. The fact remains there is an LGB without the T movement afoot. Dame Edna, the head of Stonewall UK….there are people in the LGBTQ community pushing back against your narrative. You can spout out your usual diarrhea stream of “regressives, MAGA, blah’ like some Howard Dean aspirant. But these are the facts in our current reality.
decrans
Here’s another study from Karolinska Institute, Karolinska University Hospital, Sahlgrenska University Hospital in Sweden (aka the country that modernized trans youth gender-affirming care):
The authors said the regret rate for patients in the last decade reviewed, from 2001 to 2010, may have increased over time. “The last period is still undecided since the median time lag until applying for a reversal was 8 years,” according to the study.
That’s two studies to your rambling tales and paranoia-laden MAGA this, MAGA that inane blatherings.
decrans
Not to mention the trans community adopted the light blue and pink for their flag back in 2000. “The blue represents boys, the pink represents girls.” These regressives are openly marketing the marketed gender stereotypes created by the early 1900s ad executives.
Peziya
This….MF needs to go through conversion therapy and let’s see how he likes it!!!! Sick and weird MF!!!
fredk
Creeps like Brett the frat boy drunk rapist would benefit by having a gay child. Their ignorant tone may change when it’s personal. Then again, he was a drunk frat boy rapist so maybe not.
Den
“Creeps like Brett the frat boy drunk rapist would benefit by having a gay child. ”
If someone like him had a gay child, they would kick them out onto the street and state that it was “God’s will” if the kid fell into despair and killed themselves. That’s who he is.
Kangol2
Conversion therapy involves a lot more than speech. It also involves psychic and physical violence, masquerading as a pseudo-therapeutic practice, which is enacted and enforced upon vulnerable children, young adults and sometimes adults. That Alito, Thomas and Kavanaugh want a means to overturn the bans against it and allow it to flourish really says everything about how disgustingly homophobic and transphobic these three are.
Bob
I keep hearing about transitioning children. I’d like to know where this is done. Never heard of an actual case.
inbama
The ruling puts even more pressure on parents.
If you’re convinced your effeminate son is trans, you need to move to a blue state. If you think he’s just gay and want to save him from teachers who’ll encourage him to join the pronoun club, he’ll be safer in a red one.
Den
Pretty idiotic comment.
Most parents know their kids are trans because the kids say so. Or know the kids are gay because they say so, and in case you are not aware, most effeminate men are neither gay or trans: they are just effeminate by nature…DUH! And responsible parents get their kids the counselling and guidance they need to figure out what is the proper course of action for them. As for your stupid reference to “the pronoun club” you couid not be more of a fool if you were an evangelical! (which you very well might be, as you would not be the first scumbag to come here and try and p[ass themselves off as a gay man). Certainly you must have something better to do than to come here and demonstrate how ignorant you are and how devoid of empathy for others you are. You have the same mindset as MTG, Boubert, Tommy Tuberville, MAGA Mike, Clarence Thomas and Trump!
decrans
Because they say so! In no other field in modern medicine has the ‘because they said so!’ inane excuse been trotted out. Kids have also been sexually abused and say they’re trans. It sometimes doesn’t work out. Your logic cheese wheel is full of holes, Den. Try again.
decrans
Most parents know their kids are trans because the kids say so. Or know the kids are gay because they say so, and in case you are not aware, most effeminate men are neither gay or trans: they are just effeminate by nature…DUH!”
Uh huh. And where’s the science on this besides something you heard that one time on a blog somewhere? Pathetic.
Den
“Uh huh. And where’s the science on this besides something you heard that one time on a blog somewhere? Pathetic.”
I don’t read blogs. Your imagination is not reality. That is a huge problem with you regressives. You cannot tell the difference between the real world and you magical thinking. Maybe you actually believe you were trans! That is one for the journals of psychology! But most likely you are just another heterosexual hater here to get a rise out of us. Clearly I don’t know that bur DAMN you sure fit the profile! And you would not be the first.
decrans
More diarrhea streams from good ol’ Den. Nothing about the science yet, eh?
Baron Wiseman
Judge Kavanaugh rape accuser admits she lied about being raped and that she admitted she never met the man.
Judy Munro-Leighton’s accusations, brought to light by none other Kamala Harris, has been referred for investigation for potential violations; materially false statements and obstruction.
It has been admitted by at least one Democratic member of the Judiciary Committee that from the outset top Democratic senators had been coordinating with the protesters – many of them paid – to disrupt the hearings and to create a false sense of outrage, some in the most despicable manner imaginable.
Mack
When was the last time you took your head out of the frat boy’s ass?
Den
He loves the taste of MAGA feces. Even Crest Whitestrips cannot get the stain off his teeth.
Kangol2
Christine Blasey Ford, the chief accuser of Brett Kavanaugh, did not “admit she lied.” Did she? NO.
Respond to that.
Brett Kavanaugh shouldn’t be on the US Supreme Court. His sloppy, poorly-reasoned opinions testify to this.
Baron Wiseman
@Kangol2
What information did Ms. Ford provide?
Could she provide where the party occurred? No. Who was at the party? No. How she got to the party? No. How she left the party? No. The names of anyone at the party? No. When the party occurred? No. Who did she attended with? No.
Ms. Ford couldn’t answer the simplest of questions regarding her “rape.” She was an utter embarrassment as she failed to answer any questions regarding her imaginary night.
“Respond to that.”
Ambonec
So, Christian Love includes torture¿
Den
Always has, always will. The central paradigm of the religion is that the brutal torture and murder of a rabbi somehow bought forgiveness for Christians. So the evangelicals LOVE torture, and worship pain and death. As the saying goes “there is no hate worse than Christian love.”
Mister P
If parents think their kid is gay or trans they need to love and support him/ her and make informed choices that will the child to grow and thrive in all states.
These whack jobs need to mind their own business.
decrans
On the trans issue, how can they make informed choices when trans kids have only recently been in the pipeline for ten years? Plus, most ‘passing’ feminizing surgeries are 30 years down the road. There’s a lot an undeveloped mind cannot understand. And the state has an obligation to protect children.
inbama
And at an age when most kids believe in tooth fairies and Santa Claus.
still_onthemark
Of the three Trump-appointed justices, super-religious wacko Amy Covid Bryant seemed to me to be the most likely to vote yes on this, not Kavanagh. Interesting that she was a “no,” although we’ll never know why.
dbmcvey
I suspect both she and Gorsuch would vote yes. Luckily they decided not to hear it at all.
decrans
It’s fascinating. The same left-wing cabal wants government officials to “censor and compel [viewpoint-specific] speech in their favor. The ADF attorney is correct. This issue is far from settled. If it were, you’d have stronger agreement from the court’s ‘moderates.’ Another matter that proves this debate isn’t settled: a growing segment of trans-ed gays and lesbians under the left-wing conversion therapy model known as gender-affirming medicine. And that issue is still being very much being decided. We are currently up to 15 lawsuits with various teenage de-transitioners. (And climbing.)
Den
“left-wing conversion therapy model known as gender-affirming medicine. ”
I didn’t realize that you are THAT stupid! One of my best friends was pushed to a life of drug addiction and depression that scum like you wish on gay people as a result of conversion therapy. Why do “people” like you come here and tell lies about who you are? What pleasure do you get out of the pain and suffering you hope gay and trans youth endure? Do you actually pray for their suicides. I would not be surprised if you do.
decrans
Do you have anything to add besides storytime and name-calling? You couldn’t present science to back up your opinion and got called out. I just view this paragraph as a diarrhea squirt into Queerty’s toilet commode. Nothing more, nothing less.
Den
I have not noticed you providing any science to back up your screed. And you are no less engaged in name calling than I am. Except my name calling is on the mark. Sad you hate trans folks and gay folks so much. You should just leave us alone, you’d be happier.
decrans
I posted some from actual peer-reviewed papers above just now. It’s more than you, my friend!
inbama
Childhood dysphoria is connected to homosexuality and homosexual transwomen. These are the transwomen who have atypicality in the gender region of the brain as do homosexuals.
Heterosexual transwomen do not. They are seldom effeminate and usually experience dysphoria (and transition) late in life after being successful businessmen, athletes, military men, husbands, fathers – a totally different profile from homosexual transwomen. Psychologists (not in the employ of the Gender Industry) call them “autogynephilic” – that is, they are aroused at the thought of themselves as women. Many report getting erections when they bein cross-dressing.
You can educate yourself by reading Dr. Anne Lawrence’s “Men Trapped In Men’s Bodies” free at her website annelawrencedotcom. She is, BTW, a transsexual herself.
Diplomat
Inbama,
Are you a gay male?
Gay and bisexuals do not think they are born in the wrong body hence do not have and are not connected to gender dysphoria.
One may be anxious about being different but that’s about as far as it goes. There is no confusion//dysphoria regarding being male or female.
Diplomat
It’s pretty obvious that Den is a paranoid schitz, not ready to hear NO from rational people regarding neopronouns and the ”don’t fck with me fellas!!!” trans activist approach to fitting in with society. Trans are being bumped out by their own nazi tactics and yes, LGBs have had it with their fktard, let’s streak the white house mentality. (YouTube transgender backlash)
I don’t want anybody dead but I want trans to disappear until they grow some consideration for how their weirdness affects the human race. The days of compassion are over. They blew it with their ‘we’re here, now fk off and obey’ belligerence. Get a grip “girl”.
khan72
It won’t work because conversion therapy cannot affect our brain structure. The reason we think like we do. It’s called neurology
MinnesotaNotNice
I really, really hope this loser son of a bitch dies at an early age and his seat gets filled by a Democratic president.