Jackie Cox (aka Darius Rose) from RuPaul’s Drag Race, season 12, is going into Make Me Gorgeous, an illuminating off-Broadway play about a real life drag/trans notable who was a stripper/hustler/hairdresser to the stars and who was apparently the basis for Mrs. Madrigal in Armistead Maupin’s Tales of the City.
The amazing original star of the solo show—by the one-named Donnie—is Wade McCollum, who’s going to Broadway with the Water for Elephants musical. The talented Cox is getting ready to take over February 1st through the 25th, pausing to talk to me about appearing as “Kenneth/Kate Marlowe”.
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Hi, Jackie. So you’ve seen the play you’re high-stepping into?
Quite a few times now. I thought, “This is so interesting and important” and then, the third thing was how much fun it will be to do it!
I assumed you’d be busy on tour or I would have recommended you.
This is kind of a slow time of the year. I did a big Christmas tour with Jan Sport and a couple of girls were doing DragCon UK, but I decided not to do that. And this fell into place.
Is it deadnaming, the way the show says “Kenneth/Kate”?
It’s interesting to look at this piece from our 2024 lens because there are so many things we can apply to history that wouldn’t have existed. Kate, once she transitioned, never disowned her prior life as Kenneth and all her published work is as Kenneth. I think this piece explores a little bit of how she saw her past life. With Hedwig and the Angry Inch, John Cameron Mitchell didn’t have the term “non binary”, and that story is really about a non binary person who discovered themselves through the course of the evening. This one, we see them on cusp of transition and what they’re discovering about themselves. I can apply what I know about myself and some of my trans siblings. It’s beautiful to see it humanized in this piece and put into historical terms. Kate dealt with all the foundations of queer trauma that we talk about and was able to use art—as a drag queen, author, hairdresser–to push through all the traumas.
Are you non-binary?
I’m gender expansive, so I see myself as a gay man plus. I use he and they pronouns out of drag. I’m open to the expansion of gender to include both the masculine and feminine. I see myself not so much as anywhere on the spectrum, but pushing to an even bigger version of the spectrum than we even think about. We’re all trapped in our idea of binary, which is how our culture is, so anything we can do to open our minds interests me. Just like we’re conditioned to wear certain clothes or cut our hair a certain way, we’re also conditioned to feel certain ways about ourselves, and it would be great if we could think beyond that. When I started drag, it had to be very feminine and now drag is all sorts of things. It’s much more open and the possibilities are endless.
I see you haven’t thought this through at all! [laughs]
If there’s any problem with me, it’s overthinking.
There’s no such thing as thinking too much. You’ve certainly done drag shows and held the stage, but how do you feel about a one-person play for 90 minutes, totally solo?
It’s absolutely terrifying–and I can’t wait! People who are expecting a Jackie Cox show won’t be disappointed, but they’ll be surprised because this is something different.
Do you have a background in musical theater?
I did theater in college and moved to New York shortly afterwards. You were there at New World Stages the first season of So You Think You Can Drag in 2010. A promoter basically forced me to do it. They knew I had done Hedwig in California. They said, “Come do drag”. I’d never done drag for myself. That night, Jackie was born and it was wild, it was mesmerizing. It started me on this path. Here, I’ll be reborn.
One great thing about this play is that it shows the evolving attitudes towards queer people through the years, with Kate as our proxy.
We as queer people are raised in our history. Some people think drag began with Paris is Burning, and that’s just not true. As much as it’s informed the drag culture of today, there was drag before that in places small and big. Having now been to some of those places with the privilege I have as a Drag Race queen and create a story that speaks to their history is important to me. And another thing is to have fun!
Come taste the wine
One more fab queen is heading to the legit stage: Marcia Marcia Marcia! The RuPaul’s Drag Race season 15 star—aka Marty Lauter—is playing the Kit Kat boy Victor in the imminent revival of Cabaret, starring Eddie Redmayne as the slithering MC.
At the annual Glam awards for queer nightlife, I asked Marty—who had previously appeared in Kinky Boots—if he auditioned to get the part.
“Yes,” he said. “I auditioned as Marty. Drag Race was in my resume, but it never came up. I don’t even know if they knew!” Let’s hope they find out and let him do a curtain call as Victor/Victoria.
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ShaverC
“I see myself not so much as anywhere on the spectrum, but pushing to an even bigger version of the spectrum than we even think about.”
What? He’s breaking the spectrum? I thought there was no such thing, now, as a spectrum. It’s anything and everything you want to be.
And I don’t think the point of Hedwig and the Angry Inch is that she understands that she’s “non-binary”. She’s trying to understand the tragedies that happened in her life and how that brought her to this place.
dbmcvey
You’re unbearable.
SoPluckyWhat
Why are you here? Are you on the “spectrum”?
LumpyPillows
LOL, it was a pretty stupid, self-absorbed thing to say.
KissBananaPeels
another white gay man who has to dress up like a woman to matter…UGH…
dbmcvey
Oh Banana. Shut up.
ShaverC
KBP: I’m genuinely curious and this will feel like it’s with judgement but it really isn’t. You’ve talked about white guys negatively before, but you said you had a 3 some with Geo and Tommy. Tommy obviously is white, Geo is Latino but he’s very pale. So what are the complaints about? Man dress up as woman I understand, but adding the white, after that other comment you made, I don’t understand.
SUPREME
KPB, STFU!!!!
SoPluckyWhat
Yet, here you are!
LumpyPillows
They are all attention whores. Nothing wrong with that, but it is what it is.
Hopefully these two have talent besides makeup. It seems at least Marty does,
Baron Wiseman
“I’m gender expansive, so I see myself as a gay man plus. I use he and they pronouns out of drag. I’m open to the expansion of gender to include both the masculine and feminine. I see myself not so much as anywhere on the spectrum, but pushing to an even bigger version of the spectrum than we even think about. We’re all trapped in our idea of binary, which is how our culture is, so anything we can do to open our minds interests me.”
Everybody got that? Everybody care?
However, after many hours of contemplative thought, there may be new pronouns and a new identity next week.
It is so convenient….. and narcissistic.
SoPluckyWhat
Why do you think nobody has read the article? And yes, you care.
dbmcvey
Speaking of mental illness, is it weird that you’ve made being anti-trans your entire personality?
bachy
This endless parade of men performing female stereotypes has left me gender-apathetic. All these people beating/beating/beating the gender drum just make me want to throw up.
But in the good way, of course. Don’t wanna lose my precious gay bonafides.
LumpyPillows
Nobody is trans in this discussion. But he has a point about how absolutely ridiculous you people have made gender.
monty clift
If his gender is “expansive,” then how exactly is he a gay man? To be a gay man, you have to be born male and recognise same-sex attraction. All this trans stuff has really rotted their brains; they’ve circled back to peddling conversion therapy and homophobia.
Diplomat
This is all a me me me publicity grab for the ever fleeting 15 mins of fame.
Halloween dress up everyday gets very boring to see. Please consider a real day job.
dbmcvey
We heard GOP lawmakers confirm that they are trying to ban medical care, not just for trans youth but trans adults as well. This was always their plan.
Decraps, Diplo, Shaver etc… The idea that it was to protect children was always a lie.
LumpyPillows
Haven’t heard about banning anything for adults.
As far as kids go, stop trying to turn little gay boys into girls.
decrans
Lumps: My friend Prisha Mosley led a Twitter Space with Michigan lawmakers about this topic last week. And honestly, it’s come to this point. Mentally ill adults are sometimes shoehorned into this ideology and the do-gooder progressives have no solves. They just throw up their hands. Until they can come up with solutions beyond bumper sticker slogans, this is where it stands.
LumpyPillows
This is exactly the problem. A co-worker was talking about how his best friend thinks his boy is trans because he is effeminate and plays with dolls. They are both very progressive. Now that the stigma for being a fem boy is so much less, gay boys will be gay boys. Then their progressive adults in their lives put stupid ides in their head because they think they are being gender superheroes. I told him, the likelihood is that he’s just has a gay son and to shut up about the trans stuff until the kid says something.
decrans
I ran into this appearing as trans at Nashville Gay Pride. Libtard parents wanted pictures with me like I was Minnie Mouse or some shit.
dbmcvey
Interesting that Baron and Diplo pretty much posted the same comment.
LumpyPillows
LOL. Come up with something better.
decrans
Where’s your sock puppet accounts, DMB? Where’s Trumpy McAbs?
Diplomat
I don’t agree with banning adults. I follow Sweden as they are far ahead of the US on these issues. They don’t allow trans children to affect their biology. For very good reason. Mainly regret and irreversible results.
LumpyPillows
It is really about how medical professionals do not properly diagnose gender dysphoria in children before giving them drugs and mastectomies.
Kids are stupid. Let them figure things out, without adults in their ears telling they are trans.
decrans
Is it deadnaming, the way the show says “Kenneth/Kate”?
The progressives don’t even know. But through left-wing fascism, they want to force everyone else to play around to their ever-changing whims.
LumpyPillows
I don’t want to be cruel to people, but you were this other version of you. You can’t really move on until you admit it.
I think it is a real disservice to tell people they will be happy if they change something about themselves. Like a person who thinks thy will be happy if they win the lottery and then they realize they are still the same miserable person they always were, just with more money. Same thing with gender. It does not solve most things. Take Just Jazz…miserable still after transition. The mother seems happy though. Hmmm.
whitenoiz
EVERY article has the same three (four?) anti trans folk blathering again and again. They hijack EVERY thread… Do they ever shut up???
inbama
Why don’t you, you damned homophobe.