National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) president Charlie Baker went in front of Congress Wednesday to talk about the viability of college athletes becoming paid employees of their schools.
So naturally, Senator Josh Hawley had to ask about transgender athletes… and Israel? Huh?
Hawley, who wrote a book this year allllll about his manhood, started his line of questioning by asking Baker about anti-Israel sentiments from some student organizations.
Baker, a two-term Massachusetts governor and seemingly one of the few sane Republicans left in the country, was careful to not fall into the trap.
The quick-footed senator probably wanted to goad Baker into some sort of spirited exchange he could share on social media. Instead, Baker answered the question matter of factly, leaving no room for Hawley to slide in.
@yessitswes this senator is so pathetic
— Rammy (@Filosofiser) October 17, 2023
Hmmm. Does Josh know what the NCAA does?
— Just Chill (@DawgsWillHunt) October 17, 2023
Our senators are so thirsty.
The hearing was actually about how Congress should regulate name-image-likeness concerns. That’s a very important topic, considering the worries about college athletics becoming “pay-for-play” schemes (even more than they already are).
The problem is, NIL concerns are also a dry topic, meaning Hawley likely wasn’t going to gain any viral traction asking boring questions about the financial solvency of Division II and Division III schools. He wanted to barrel towards the issue of the day.
After Baker shut down Israel, the gay-hating lawmaker went to an old favorite: trans athletes.
In a particularly interminable soliloquy, the bloviator from Missouri quoted Riley Gaines, a former NCAA swimmer who’s since become an anti-trans activist.
“The NCAA was dead wrong to force female athletes like @Riley_Gaines_ to share a locker room with biological men. The NCAA should apologize to female athletes – and stop forcing women to stand by while men take over their sports,” he posted on X.
The NCAA, of course, has no policy that “forces” women to share locker rooms with anybody. But that didn’t stop Hawley.
Girl’s gotta get on Fox News somehow!
But once again, Baker didn’t take the bait.
“The policies with respect to the safety and security of student-athletes participating in our championships are pretty explicit about making it clear that student-athletes should not be forced into uncomfortable situations,” he said.
Rejected again!
You still whining about this? Nothing better to be doing at this time?
— Automation Man (@ManAutomation) October 18, 2023
I can’t wait until you say you’re “running for office”. The meme games will be spectacular.
Somehow this doesn’t seem like the greatest threat we face today
— Myer Berlow (@myerberlow) October 18, 2023
Hawley, still searching for his shining moment, then tried to press Baker in his verrrry masculine baritone. “Does that include female athletes having to share locker rooms with biological males being warned or consent. Are they asked for their consent?”
Baker, who wasn’t NCAA president while Gaines was competing, still didn’t give an inch.
“I don’t believe that would be the policy we would use today,” he said.
With that, there was simply nowhere else for Hawley to go.
Yes, this is the most important issue in the world right now. Everything else can wait.
— Gabriela Rios (@GabyRfromPR) October 18, 2023
There’s a reason why Baker was the most popular governor in the country, despite his Republican status in a deep-blue state. He rarely involved himself in national culture wars, instead focusing on local issues that actually impacted his constituents. Imagine that!
Oh, and he’s also very tall. We want tall leaders, which is why Ron “Don’t Say Gay” DeSantis wears heels!
Hawley, a fellow attention-stunt queen, also likes to project masculine leadership. That’s why he fled in a panic when the MAGA mob stormed the Capitol on January 6, even though he helped incite the insurrection.
The poor guy wants to project toughness so badly! Instead, he just keeps getting owned.
Baron Wiseman
“The NCAA, of course, has no policy that “forces” women to share locker rooms with anybody.”
Riley Gaines’ testimony, “In addition to being forced to give up our awards and our titles and our opportunities, the NCAA forced me and my female swimmers to share a locker room with Thomas. A 6-foot-4, 22-year-old male equipped with and exposed male genitalia. Let me be clear about this – we were not forewarned we would be sharing a locker room. No one asked for our consent and we did not give our consent.”
still_onthemark
Baker implies the NCAA policy has changed: “I don’t believe that would be the policy we would use today,” he said.
Not sure exactly what this means, and Queerty doesn’t seem to be curious.
storm45701
Gaines’ is saying the NCAA “forced” her, where it could have been her school or campus athletic departments that permitted this. Policies change all the time, especially when challenged. Republicans – who have long been proponents of “local control” when it suited their interest – seem to want a national policy on this. What happened to local rights?
RoyM
All conservatives are just garbage human beings, you are a great example of that. Isn’t there a neo-Nazi meeting that you should be attending instead of trolling this site?
Jaesly
Why should we listen to this sore-loser, self-acknoleged ant-trans activist. Couldn’t she have just changes her locker position?
decrans
Here comes the anti-woman, alleged feminist party. A rape survivor complains about being triggered in the locker room. By all means, tell us how women’s rights are being diminished with the current Supreme Court. The contradictory diarrhea flying out both sides of your mouth right now. It’s a sight to behold.
Diplomat
J,
You’re a complete ass. Get lost turd for brains.
LumpyPillows
This really is misogyny and you people just can’t get out of your own way. Lia Thomas isn’t even transgender. This is not only wrong, but a real loser for us. Defend trans women, but not at the expense of women.
dbmcvey
All the conservative’s obsession with women’s locker rooms and trans people is pretty creepy.
Baron Wiseman
As creepy as men who think they can “chestfeed”?
LeBlevsez
Baron Wiseman is easily rattled.
dbmcvey
I didn’t even have to mention the trolls on this site, they just creep up.
decrans
You wanna know what’s creepy, Dave? The Los Angeles Wi Spa incident. A decade old peeping Tom flapping his Johnson at women in the locker room. And when the facts emerged, your side folded like a paper tiger. Again, another recurring issue with modern liberalism. You have all these Big Ideas for blessed utopia. However, y’all haven’t sat down to sift through the brass nuts. It’s just meaningless bumper sticker phraseology idiocy.
decrans
Kind of like the Make America Great idiots. Low on practical ideas for absolute reality; high on cutesy sloganeering.
Diplomat
Dbmcvey,
What’s creepy are men like you wanting to flash women in their locker rooms and showers while wearing a woman’s wig. No. The gay community does not support you and your sick agenda. Get lost.
LumpyPillows
I proudly support trans people, but they do not belong in women’s sports. How difficult is it for you to discuss this without personal attacks? Or is your position so weak you can’t?
The only question is how and when this demand for trans women in women’s sports dies. It may get nipped in the bud by organizations waking up to the unfairness and banning it now. Or, they may let transwomen in and when people see how unfair it is, as they already are, there will be huge backlash. It’s like how the trans-mafia press never shows a picture of Lia Thomas standing next to a real woman. It is a wake up call.
Oddly, if all you need is to modify testosterone, why is it no trans man has had similar success in men’s sports?
It is possible to support trans women and not be a misogynist. Try it.
dbmcvey
Do you Lumpy?
LumpyPillows
I believe I just posted that. Why yes, there it still is.
Db, do you help the trans cause with your extreme message? I don’t think so. Have you been to any fundraisers in person for trans people in running for office this month? Donated to them? No, I know you haven’t. You are like all the other loud mouths who actually do nothing. I’ve been to two fundraisers this month alone. Donated hundreds.
You really think you are right. You aren’t. Stop patting yourself on the back.
Fahd
Hawley is a TRAITOR who already should have been charged, tried and convicted for his actions on January 6, 2021.
Instead, this child of the elite is taking up Senate-space pandering to deep-seated populist prejudice (see also Beavis Gaetz and Empty Greene). He´s wrong if he thinks playing the wedge issues is going to lead to higher office (see Ron DeSaster).
And is this all part of Hawley´s obsession that started with shirtless male model dorm posters?
Kangol2
Thank you. Hawley repeatedly stated (including on Jan 4 on FoxNews) and said the vote might be overturned, openly signaled support to the coup participants, then fled like a terrified chicken when they broke into the Capitol, seeking to hang Mike Pence and harm the rest of Congress (including some of their right-wing abetters), and then had the gall to lead the effort to object to certifying Biden’s victory in the Senate.
You’re also right about his elite background, his fake populism, and his hysterical anxiety around masculinity, sexuality, and gender, and his likely desire to become President. No thank you, Hawley! Instead, get thee to a psychologist and heal thyself!
bachy
Transgenderism really needs to stand on its own as a modern movement. It is too contradictory to be part of the gay movement as it has been defined since its inception. Their aims are not the same.
Honestly: how do you reconcile people who love the d – and people who want to chop off the d? It doesn’t make any sense.
Laryagar
They rephrased it as the queer movement, so anyone who does not conform to the strictly heteronormative framework is considered queer and counts towards the whole LGBTQ+ group. Of course you have different collections of letters based on different groups wanting to be distinctly represented instead of being part of the +. Back when this start it was due to sheer population. Anyone one group, except maybe bisexuals, was a small enough group that people may discount and ignore. So, they gather all those smaller groups to make a larger voting block and demonstrate a larger impact on society.
The problem is that a larger percentage of those groups represent sexual orientation instead of gender expression. Many people have gained a level of understanding on sexual orientation because they can apply their attraction and just say it points to a different gender or type of person and is relatable.
Gender expression is often more difficult for people to understand because they cannot personally relate to it if they are not genderqueer. Also, a lot of what people associate with gender is enforced by society and is a learned component. As in hair styles, colors, clothes, etc… are often regulated based on gender.
What is often a major problem with non-genderqueer people is that there is an almost instinctive action to tie the body’s sex directly to gender expression. This is probably largely due to the way the brain likes to create categories and stereotypes to everything around them. It is why people who are conservative often cannot change their minds later in life because the brain has a tendency to fall on previously “programmed” categories and rules. It is why it often is more difficult to learn new languages as people get older or learn new things, the brain bakes in most of its knowledge in the early years then starts to prune off unnecessary information as it gets older. Simplifying rules and information makes it faster to recall and organize. So, people are taught by observation and rote the rules of life early on and use that for future decisions. Children see or are taught what it is to be a male/female early on and build that image and when they meet someone who they see or know is one sex but does not conform to their expectations there is a level of distress. They do not know how to respond and fall back to various coping mechanisms.
In the end, Bachy is right…the transgender issues are not the same as the gay movement and should be separate. Most likely though it will stay as it is because most people that are gay or are in the LGBTQ+ group have a certain level of empathy for other people that are persecuted and will stand up for their rights to some semblance of happiness.
dbmcvey
Yes, of course then conservatives and religious fundamentalists would stop attacking us and we’d all join hands and sing Kumbaya!
LumpyPillows
I’d love to cancel the trans mafia, the loud-mouth, vile haters, from being under our tent. They are insufferable. But, that would result in throwing out trans people too. Trans people are not like the misogynist gender anarchists forming the ore of the trans mafia, and the entirety of their hate brigade here. Conundrum.
dbmcvey
Wow Lumps. You don’t sound like you support trans people.
Fname Optional Lname
insert meme of Hawley running for his life on Jan 6th. – Street cred value = 0.
dbmcvey
Like a moth to a flame all the creepy anti-trans obsessives are showing up.
decrans
Once again, you can’t debate your ideas like an adult. In the greater picture, it’s why you’re losing this argument nationally. Nothing of substance to your asinine, half-baked ideas. How sad, Davey.
dbmcvey
I love how that conservative troll who is truly, creepily obsessed with trans people thinks he’s debating ideas rather than just repeating conservative talking points. How sad, troll.
decrans
And you’re not? Self awareness ain’t your strong suit, Daveyboy.
Baron Wiseman
@dbmcvey
Creepily obsessed?
Like when queer, trans, intersex and asexual people use the term “front hole” for vagina?
“As the guide says:
For the purposes of this guide, we’ve chosen to include alternative words for readers to use for their genitals. For example, some trans men choose to use the words “front hole” or “internal genital” instead of “vagina.” Alternatively, some trans women may say “strapless” or “girl dick” for penis.”
We certainly wouldn’t want to offend transgender or queer communities by saying vagina. The term “front hole” is MUCH better and not creepy at all.
decrans
I’ll have you know that I lived in a trans halfway house during the Wi Spa incident. And I soaked up a wide variety of viewpoints during my stay on the subject. In your simple mind, I realize that politics only exist in two-party duopoly binary. The world is nuanced, dear simpleton Daveyboy. You can’t present your ideas without half-baked asides. At the very least, Bosch attempted to back up his assertions like an adult.
Diplomat
So glad to see debunked humans like dbmcvey, and their atrocities, heading to the trash heap for a big bright gas fire.
Gays think you’re pure garbage. Get lost.
dbmcvey
Hey Diplo. I’m here whether you like it or not. Why don’t you get lost.
And take your various conservative trolls with you. I noticed that it took you a little while to show up on this. Are you still claiming not to be trans at the same time you side with the anti-trans trolls?
decrans
If you want the full and unvarnished story on the Wi Spa incident, it’s available in LA Magazine. According to Davey, that’s right-wing propaganda. However, you hear from the horse’s mouth how this person likes being naked around children and confusing women while sexualizing them. Not Newsmax, Daveyboy.
dbmcvey
I read the unvarnished story. It doesn’t help that the person making the claims has aligned themselves with the Proudboys and was already an anti-trans nutbag. Probably a friend of yours.
LumpyPillows
db you are also weirdly obsessed. You can’t or won’t admit there are problems. You just get nasty and it isn’t a good look, dear.
decrans
Proud Boy or not, this person was allowed to self ID and enter the women’s locker room after a decade of sexually aggressive behavior with children. And that’s the problem we have in blue states currently. Dave Matthews can only lob insults because, at the core level, he knows that his arguments are weak with the facts on the table. He’s very childish in this regard.
dbmcvey
Let it be shown that the anti-trans troll support the Proud Boys.
decrans
Let it be known that Dave Matthews refuses to back up his arguments like an actual adult. Why? Because he knows they lack substance.
You’re so dumb, Dave. Your idiocy is dripping all over this thread for the world to see.
dbmcvey
Yep, creepers gonna creep, and they’re all here. The weird oxymoron one is especially creepy. He seems obsessed with other people’s fetishes.
dbmcvey
And the other one who claims to have been trans–that’s a real freak. Pretends to have been trans while he tries to pathologize trans people. Really sick.
And the WI Spa incident? Everything he says is a right wing conspiracy fake.
Diplomat
We’re really done with you, trans troll. What’s it gonna take for you to get the message.
dbmcvey
You know what diplo, be done with me. I would be happy never to hear from you again. Especially after that weird claim that you don’t like trans people because they betray first wave feminism.
decrans
Oh, Davey. You say things about being done, but you keep the communication pathways open. Look into not backing up your actions. That’s step one.
dbmcvey
I didn’t say I was done dumbass. Diplo did. I’m fine with him being done.
Diplomat
It’s “we’re done”.
dbmcvey
Sure troll, we’re done. And yet, you keep coming back. Even though you claim not to be LGB or T.
decrans
Daveyboy told Abcrabs that he would stop replying to my comments. It worked for almost a month. And then, he succumbed to his childish insults and a general lack of coherent arguments again. The educational standards in this country are abysmal. And Daveyboy proudly illustrates California’s sewage waste of intellectual rot time and time again.
Diplomat
DB,
Your dysphoria is showing as I didn’t make any statement about feminism. I’m a Trump hating gay not trans, your dysphoria again.
You’re a trashy trans activist trolling women and gay men and you’re not wanted in the gay community. You have a stick polluted mind and you’re not making any friends here. What’s the draw? It ain’t cake and ice cream on our dime anymore psycho tran. You blew it. You’re toast. Get lost.
dbmcvey
And here is the real diplo. A creepy conservative obsessed with trans people.
You don’t speak for the gay community dips, neither do I. But your delusions of grandeur are impressive.
Diplomat
As far as “we’re done” you don’t see anyone defending you now do you. If you think a miniscule one percent will tip the tide in your favor, think again. All lesbians hate you for trying to force dik on them that they don’t want. There’s 50 percent down the toilet. The rest is obvious.
LumpyPillows
Sad world db lives in. I’m a gay, liberal democrat too, but poor db has to turn us into the bogeyman because the poor dear can’t imagine being wrong. So very, very wrong.
dbmcvey
And here are lumps and diplo getting behind the whole Proud Boy experience.
LumpyPillows
Take your meds. db, I never said one word about proud boys. You can’t win an argument by pulling stuff out of thin air.
Diplomat
There’s nothing “conservative” about keeping your creepy man ass out of women’s locker rooms and showers. It’s called common sense you trogladite. You can’t even address the issue your’re so scared and maladjusted. You’re a floundering coward. Just go away and defecate on someone else’s flag.
Ronbo
Your comment seems to understand that what we have are conflicting rights. Too many “creepy man ass” are allowed into locker rooms and too many “creepy man ass” aren’t allowed into the locker room.
Ignoring the conflicting rights are how our community falls apart. We have the right to identify however we wish, we have the right to understand genetics, AND we have the right to feel safe from “creepy man ass”.
Be who you are, but, recognize that you can’t force others into compliance. We do much better when we lead with compassion. Shoving your dick into someone’s face in the locker room seems more of a rape than compassion – especially when the straight trans-women become excited by their shower-mates.
Extremists on both the left and right, need to acknowledge conflicting rights. I don’t have a definitive answer to the conflict; but, I do know: denial of either side seem deceptive and de-humanizing.
LumpyPillows
Ah, so finally a real discussion. It is conflicting interests. Not really rights, because trans people can use a locker room, just not the one they want. I don’t know the answer to the locker room problem. Boy’s locker rooms in my day were not the bastion of safety they need to be. Trans girls with penises in girl’s locker rooms is also a problem. No idea what to do. Maybe it’s like some futures in movies with unisex locker rooms…cringe.
As far as trans girls and women in girls and women’s sports, I see a definite unfairness problem. Here, I side with banning trans girls and women from competing. If they would like, they can compete against the boys and men. If we are being honest, we all know it is unfair for trans women to compete against women, and all the arguments about testosterone levels are really bogus. Otherwise trans men would be winning in men’s sports and that isn’t happening.
bachy
The gay movement is forced to generate dubious, convoluted, pretsel logic in order to incorporate transgenderism into its political platform. These contortions have dangerously eroded our legitimacy… and many of our gains.
I am sympathetic to the transgender movement but I don’t have a dog in that fight. It has become increasingly obvious that transgenderism has significantly unique political aims; aims which merit a separate movement. Separating the two movements will keep both focused and coherent.
dbmcvey
What’s creepy is how much you and all your conservative trolls obsess over this. Here you are again Diplo, obsessing over something that doesn’t affect you.
Diplomat
db,
Mentally and/or physically molesting women in their private spaces effects alot of people, more than half the population at minimum. You’re a psycho sexual predator. You should be jailed.
We Have no need for your insane antics as a minority or society. Can you feel the animosity building against you? You fkd things up big time for everyday Americans. Now it’s time for correction.
decrans
Pretty much. Americans were accepting of gay marriage. Now the polls are headed in the other direction. As I mentioned before, self-reflection ain’t a hallmark in Davey’s wheelhouse of intellectual horrors. When the radicals started coming after children, that’s when the political tides shifted. And I’ve been to a Radical Faerie commune. These people want to parade their aroused genitals in front of kids. That’s where they want to keep pushing the ball down the court. Welp. They screwed up gay marriage for themselves and I’m laughing when the egg hits their faces come next Supreme Court decision. They will probably whine about the conservatives some more. That’s all liberals have done most of my adult life. Whine, fundraise, repeat.
Ronbo
Does db confuses being gay with being a Proud Boy?!? Idiocy.
The 88% of gay men and women responded that they support the act of being trans; but, believe that the extremist positions harm our community.
What are the extremist positions specified? Those who believe that genetics are not real. Genetic males can choose to be female. Trans females are no different and can compete with females. The rights of trans women are superior to female rights.
Db and trans extremists seek to censor thoughts that don’t match theirs; just like the right-wing extremists who push “don’t say gay”.
LumpyPillows
The real problem with db is db has no idea what a conservative or a liberal is these days. None of us is a conservative. So, it really is db out on a fringe. The lunatic fringe.
johncp56
Love the open mouth hole