A group of uptight residents in Auckland are clutching their pearls after learning their tax dollars may be going towards promoting a gay fisting festival.
The Kiwifist happens each year as part of this city’s Pride festival. The event costs $30 to attend and bills itself as a “full-on, five-hour-plus, gathering of gay and bi men into fisting and arse-play big-time” that is open to “all arse-playing men, from beginners to the extremely experienced.”
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Still, a group of kink-shamers naysayers say they don’t want their hard-earned tax dollars going towards a raunchy sex party.
“The Ratepayers’ Alliance does not believe ratepayers should be subsiding sex parties, regardless of the sexual orientation of those involved,” Jo Holmes, spokesperson for the organization, said in a statement. “Sex parties do not benefit the general ratepayer.”
Holmes, who is a lesbian, added, “I can see no justification at all for ATEED to be sponsoring an event like Kiwifist. … Sex parties are not core Council business.”
The ATEED is a city council fund that gives $45,000 to the Pride festival each year. The money goes exclusively and specifically to the Pride parade, a family-friendly daytime event. Not a penny of it is used for the Kiwifist. Or any other event, for that matter. Just the parade.
We think this dude sums it up best:
https://twitter.com/JessEtheridge/status/958919893604229120
Word.
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Ummmm Yeah
I would be pissed about that nonsense too. We aren’t a welfare group and we don’t want to be one. Public money should only be taken when it benefits the public, not for some over used ass fest.
dwes09
Obviously you did not bother to read the article past the headline!
So…What nonsense exactly would you be pissed about beyond the misunderstandings of those who complained that you so willfully share?
Ummmm Yeah
I read the whole thing. So pick up with ever organ fell out your over used butt and deal with it. The taxpayers should not be paying for fisting demonstrations. That is exactly the type of entitlement garbage that turns people off real gay rights.
dwes09
Obviously you have little reading comprehension. Or are lying about how far you read (maybe you need to learn how to scroll).
As for this:
“So pick up with ever organ fell out your over used butt and deal with it. ”
Great indication of the kind of person you are inside. A better put down of your intellect, politic and soul than i could have come up with. Sad, broken man! So full of hatred, suspicion, and stupidity.
I’ve never been fisted, I simply understand the foolishness of judging others in the regressive way you do.
PinkoOfTheGange
Ummmm No.
No public $NZ is going to the sex party. It happens to be being held on the same weekend.
Juanjo
Ummmm yeah is one of those trolls who is always upset over one thing or another, even if what she is upset about doesn’t exist anywhere but in her tiny little head. This is an excellant example of that situation. The article points out NO public money was allocted for the fisting party but Miss Thing has her knickers in a kink becausee she thinnks that public money is being used for a fisting party. I also don’t think she understands where or what New Zealand is.
SiamSam
It’s a race to the bottom. Geddit? HAHAHA
Danny595
It’s a dangerous, disgusting practice which has nothing to do with Gay Pride. No way in hell should the taxpayers of Auckland be funding that. No way in hell should normal Kiwi LGBs allow this to go on under the banner of Pride.
BTW, what is with the constant use of the phrase “clutching pearls”? I guess it’s the effeminate male’s way of dismissing arguments and concerns without having to engage them.
CastleSF
It is people who are into these kinky and reckless practices that give the normal gay men a bad name. I know we are supposed to live and let live but the very idea of their using the taxpayer’s money for their depraved pleasure is just sickening.
PinkoOfTheGange
But no public funds are going to the party Blanch! They aren’t spending public monies.
Is paraphrasing Betty Davis as Baby Jane better…or still too gay?
CastleSF
Danny595, I try not to judge a personal’s integrity but when one looks at some of these gay men indulged in these, shall we say, fetish behaviors, one has to wonder if they had been bullied or traumatized when they were young. Those traumas probably twist their minds into something more degrading and sinister such as fisting. Unfortunately it is legal but it sure doesn’t make it any easier for people like me who live in a liberal city to witness the degenerate behaviors on a regular basis.
dwes09
Actually, one has to wonder about your far fetched and hilarious attempt (obviously with no credentials or understanding of human behavior) to psychoanalyze others based entirely on your closed and backwards mind.
This: ” Unfortunately it is legal but it sure doesn’t make it any easier for people like me who live in a liberal city to witness the degenerate behaviors on a regular basis.” says it all. Who knew that a wet behind the ears twit was the arbiter of what constitutes appropriate sexual expression for all gay men!? Sorry, but what is not normal is such ossified thinking in one so young.
I have never been fisted, but I would also never be so presumptuous as you!
Danny595
CastleSF – I don’t know what motivates someone to do this to themselves, but clearly something is broken. A person with a normal psyche would not do this. It could be something from childhood, as you hypothesize. Another possibility is that these people, after indulging in long-term promiscuity, have become numb to standard sex acts and need to do increasingly bizarre things in order to feel the same level of pleasure that they used to get out of sex. When you decouple sex from love and relationships, all that is left is the physical sensation. And after 300, 500, 700 partners, maybe it gets boring and this is the next high that they look for.
Brody
Taxpayers absolutely have a right to object to ridiculous ways their money is being spent, especially if it’s on something as asinine (pun intended) as an s&m party.
To call it homophobic is a stretch, even for professional outrage manufacturers.
PinkoOfTheGange
But public monies aren’t being spent.
am_psi
My question would be why the ‘pride festival’ would allow this event to be a part of it at all? You can’t complain about people not accepting gays as long as the there doesn’t seem to be any limit to the level of depravity that the gays will allow under their umbrella.
KaiserVonScheiss
Doesn’t make any sense to me either. Then again, pride festivals contain more and more nudity and lewd behaviour. It really is a detriment.
dwes09
“It really is a detriment.”
It is a detriment to those who wish to be like, and behave as those whose distaste for them is obvious. I, for one, have no desire to conform to people who consider me intrinsically a sinner or depraved simply for my affectional preference. I see no reason to idolize either them or their narrow minds. You do, clearly. And that says nothing good about your critical intellectual abilities or sense of self worth.
If you don’t like those who behave differently from you, go away. You will save yourself and others a lot of grief (though to be fair, you provide amusement here). Go hang out on Breitbart or The Daily Caller and plead your case to those who may, if you are lucky and behave “properly”, concede that you are fully human despite being gay.
Brody
I’m convinced that pride parades are the gay community’s way of ensuring we’ll never be accepted by society at large as anything other than sex-obsessed cross-dressers.
Mick406
Brody
Damned straight! (No pun intended!) Things like this and the pride parades cement what ‘normal’ people think of the gay movement. This goes way beyond just being gay and asking for acceptance. These events are filled with the most depraved looking AND acting individuals you can muster up. A terrible image to portray when asking to be embraced by society as a hole (not another damned pun intended either!). Me, nor my gay friends would be caught dead at a public event like this. It doesn’t represent your everyday regular gay person. NO TAX MONEY TO SUPPORT INDECENCY!!!!
Paco
Stay away from Mardi Gras, fellas. A lot of heterosexuals behaving in a lewd manner.
Creamsicle
You could slippery slope in the other direction and say that all sexual behavior is meant to be hidden away in shame. The gay community is really losing its spirit of inclusiveness and sexual revolution if gay men are standing around complaining about other people’s kinks.
If anything we should be at the forefront of sex-positivity for all adults. It would at least be more logically consistent that arbitrarily defining what is and is not acceptable sexual behavior. The prudes you’re trying to win over will never accept you, especially if you play into their game.
o.codone
The pride parade is now re-defined by Queerty’s Gremore as a “family friendly, daytime event”. Have you SEEN a gay pride parade Graham? Seriously.
JK 1984
O.codone, as someone who actually lives in Auckland, I can tell you the Pride Parade is a “family friendly” affair.
Lots of families (gay, straight and everything in between) come along to the parade. There are more “adult” events happening throughout the next few weeks such as the fisting party described which don’t get public funding.
dwes09
It is incredibly humorous (and not at all surprising) that the regressives here either did not bother to read the article, or did not understand what they read.
This seems pretty obvious to all but those who understand the world only through their regressive, fear driven imaginations:
“The ATEED is a city council fund that gives $45,000 to the Pride festival each year. The money goes exclusively and specifically to the Pride parade, a family-friendly daytime event. Not a penny of it is used for the Kiwifist. Or any other event, for that matter. Just the parade.”
The little regressive snowflakes need to learn to read and evaluate media critically if they ever want to be more than a laughingstock.
CastleSF
That’s just the excuse these deviant festival organizers made in order to rectify a shockingly embarrassing situation. I live in a so-called progressive city and I am glad that the old people into the extreme fetishes are gradually being pushed out and replaced by the millennials.
dwes09
SF? I have lived here for well over 40 years child. Even the youth laugh at a regressive notion like yours. To use the word devient, as someone who might be a gay man (who knows, you may well be a heterosexual troll, this is after all the internet) marks you as intellectually backwards. All the millenials I know (and in my business that is mostly who i deal with) are rather open minded and understand the value of diversity. Sorry you missed the boat child!
Or perhaps you are just a libertarian. Psychotherapy might help with that.
dwes09
Oh, and by the way, like so many of the dull, you seem not to understand that the only way you can prevent becoming an “old person” is to die. Though it might surprise you, at one point I was as young (though never so intellectually ossified) as you.
Paco
@CastleSF – Millennials will be the old geezers soon enough. Between the Boomers and Millennials, the forgotten GenXers will be viewed as the most balanced. They seem to be the only I-don’t-give-a-fk, just-let-me-live generation.
Brian
Gen X Rules, boomers and millenials drool! Class of 87, baby.
Rex Huskey
two words: Graham Gremore
Danny595
I am a Millennial, which is the most monogamous gay/bi generation, and I agree with you 100%. The best thing about being in this generation is that we get to see the old deviants who created “fisting events,” who normalized long-term promiscuity, and who turned gay pride into a celebration of fetishes, die off. All of these twisted old pervs who post on Queerty know that their time is almost up. Their bathhouses and backrooms and fisting events will be remembered as an ancient horror of a bygone era and will be replaced by marriage, love and commitment. Bwah ha ha!
Danny595
Comment above was to CastleSF, obvs.
greybat
Some people prefer to write before they learn how to read.
dwes09
@ Danny595:
Most of the millennials i know are nice, open minded people. You are not. It seems clear you already are the kind of old person inside you are making fun of. And child, ugly inside forces its way out pretty early on. And your post reveals ugly inside big league.
Sad to see.
Danny595
dwes09 – There is nothing “ugly” about standing up for love and for commitment and against a way of life, created by urban gay males in the 70s, which has been catastrophic for all LGB people. It is very ugly to dig in your heels, to deny reality, and to continue to insist that loveless promiscuity and “fisting” are consistent with health, happiness and longevity.
Call me names if you want, but the truth is, you’re old and I’m young. And I and my friends and my future husband and the following generation, Gen Z, will be here, undoing every horrible thing you created, while you chill 6 feet under.
Nuttypea
if taxes are funding the fistathon then where does the $30 cover charge come into play?
anyway, If my city’s allowed to throw a shitty Beer fest every year then I don’t see why a fist fest is any worse. No one ever ran off the road because they enjoyed to much fisting.
Jaxton
When are the fisting gits going to realize that nobody should have to fund their fetish? Fund it yourself.
Nuttypea
are we not even going to explore the question of why fisting costs so much to begin with?
dwes09
When are you regressives going to learn to read?
Kangol
Other than DWes09, did most of you not read the article? It clearly says that taxpayer funding does NOT sponsor the fisting event. It only sponsors the family-day event, yet poster after poster, some of them probably sock puppets of each other, post the same damned things denouncing something that’s not even happening. It’s like homophobic Focus in the Family is getting these feeds and sending its minions over here. The Auckland taxpayer funding is not underwriting the fisting fest. If gay, bi, trans and even straight men (yes, they get fisted too) want to fist each other consensually, it’s their right.
dwes09
They navigate the world with their imagination, not with logic or critical thought. Check out the “millennial” who believes that the statement regarding funding was a lie, simply because it popped into his imagination. That is what they do. “What if”, or “perhaps” are statements of fact to them and cannot be corrected by exposure to actual reality.
Heywood Jablowme
Yes, but it’s worth noting that Queerty’s headline is awfully misleading. The article writer (Graham G.!) seems to comprehend the situation, but I’m not so sure the Queerty editor who wrote the headline comprehends the situation.
dwes09
Truly, Queerty stoops to the clickbait headline way too often!
PinkoOfTheGange
I think it is one maybe two people that are posting the oh it’s icky post’s The wording is eerily similar.
Brian
Are Pride parades really family friendly events? I haven’t been to one in decades, but there are certainly no shortage of gay groups that are overtly sexual, some of whom I assume participate in the parades.
Ummmm Yeah
In smaller cities in America. The big cities are going to be the worst.
dwes09
In SF there are two days of events. Saturday is family friendly. Sunday, including the parade, covers all bases. And ultimately, “family friendly” is a relative term.
All the things that the regressives here are objecting to and claiming will reverse or impede social progress are things that Heterosexuals indulge in in greater numbers. They, however don’t need the safe space or any specific weekend to be the default.
Besides, regardless of what the majority of people look like at a gay pride event, regressives, “christians”, neo-fascists and so on are going to focus on those they think of as trash and present them as the majority. Sadly the media is also going to focus on more colorful aspects of a huge event like this. Those who understand how to think will realize the variety of people, and that the more extreme ones are in the minority.
Regressives, like those posting here are easily manipulated by disingenuous presentations or sensational images because they lack critical faculties. Oddly, some have even worked to suppress their own critical intellect so as to maintain their regressive bias (in the same way fundamentalists must suppress intellect to maintain their dogma).
Kangol
When you say “family friendly,” doesn’t it depend upon the context? Not all families are alike, and not all families think alike. Some Pride Parades are pretty tame, but I also see heterosex couples, and have even attended the parade with straight couple friends and their small children, watching everyone on the parade route, and they didn’t seem upset in the least by anything they saw. No negative comments about the leathermen, drag queens, trans people, nothing. I thought it was great. I remember seeing straight people with their kids at Wigstock, etc. Society has changed, though clearly there are many holdouts, including among “gay” people who comment on here.
Brian
“Family friendly” doesn’t depend on the context. It means that it’s appropriate for all age levels. Now if you want to expose your kids to stuff that other people don’t think is appropriate at a certain age, that’s up to you, but it doesn’t change the meaning of the phrase.
This kind of stuff is getting really exhausting. The English language has been around for 1400 years. Yes, it evolves, but jeez, every word and phrase cannot be all inclusive to every possible person. When you say “family friendly”, it should not have to have a footnote that there are many kinds of families and they all don’t think alike or have the same beliefs. It should mean that you can bring your 5 year old and not have to worry about explaining what a dildo is.
Danny595
I would call CPS on any “family” that exposed a young child to a sexual fetish event. Would have no hesitation.
Kangol
@Brian, “family friendly” DOES depend upon context. You do realize that families and the very concept of the “family” have changed over time, not just within the context that the term is used in English, but across all languages. Just read any accounts of families–and there are quite a few excellent ones–from the Dark Ages in Britain up through today. Children were exposed to far more than they are today, including witnessing live births, sex acts, and more. The very context in which families of different types functioned also has changed over time; you can take any year, say 1820 in rural Massachusetts or in bustling Philadelphia, in the fairly new federal capital of Washington, DC, on the then-western frontier of Missouri or the gold-rush camps of California, in the slaveholding city of Charleston or a large plantation outside an urban area in Alabama, etc., and in every case, family dynamics would differ, as would what would be considered “family,” and “family-friendly.” What you think something means does not mean everyone has to accept it. Nothing in society or culture is static. That’s just a basic principal of human existence.
ShowMeGuy
My city has a street festival for Pride not a parade and there are LGBTIQA people who are parents raising school aged children and those and those same people are uncles and aunts with their own siblings who love them unconditionally the way a real family should…..and those family members often times attend our PrideFest with their LGBTIQA family members. We have a kids’ crafting area and face painting, a teens’ chill out space, and kids dance with their parents to the bands rocking out on the main stage……just like any of the other street festivals which happen in our city throughout the year.
Our city’s LGBTIQA Pride Fest has something the other street festivals in our town don’t have……and that is a church worship service hosted by all the “pro-gay” religious organizations in our burg and it kicks off the Pride Fest each year. You can see a Baptist Church handing out canvas tote bags at their booth right next to the booth of a porn shop handing out rainbow colored feather boas.
Doesn’t get more **family friendly** than that.
Paco
People need to learn how to comprehend what they read. No tax dollars are going to the, erm, “kink event”. The public money is only being used for the parade, and I highly doubt there is going to be a Crisco float with forearms stuffed up bums. Get a grip people.
“The money goes exclusively and specifically to the Pride parade, a family-friendly daytime event. Not a penny of it is used for the Kiwifist. Or any other event, for that matter. Just the parade.”
CastleSF
It doesn’t alter the fact that a promiscuous degrading sex party is being held in that city. It is probably legal but it is just revolting. There are times when we just have to swallow the feeling of disgust and mind our own business.
dwes09
You really need to take your own advice! Just because you see something as degrading does not mean it degrades others. I suspect you are old enough (but possibly not bright enough) to understand the difference between your biases and reality. Sadly, that is more difficult than the similar understanding (you demonstrated a lack of earlier) that “old people” are the same as you, they simply have lived longer and have more experience in life.
Danny595
Love ya, CastleSF! Keep commenting! It drives these deluded deviants crazy. They want to live in a bubble where they can convince themselves that their extreme sexual choices are normal and sustainable and without consequence. They get very upset when anyone bursts that bubble.
dwes09
“Keep commenting! It drives these deluded deviants crazy. They want to live in a bubble where they can convince themselves that their extreme sexual choices are normal and sustainable and without consequence. They get very upset when anyone bursts that bubble.”
This is the exact same voice and tone as the “christian” alt-right. What upsets me is the backwards thinking and arrogance in your post. You would fit in better in 1950’s Georgia than in the modern world and you delude yourself in thinking that most in your generation are on the same page. In fact, actual demographic studies show you are incorrect about how Millennials think and what they believe. But then, regardless of age, the regressive sorts seem to base their opinions on their imagination and little more.
Danny595
dwes09 – Believe it or not, morality is not the exclusive property of religious nuts. Gay people can and do have beliefs about what is right and wrong. Every single one of your comments expresses a moral judgment. So don’t presume for one moment to tell me or anyone else that we can’t make moral judgments.
As for what Millennials believe, you don’t have a clue. Every single study of G/B Millennial males shows us to be the most conservative sexually (not politically). G/B Millennials have our first sex later, have sex with people in the context of a dating relationship, have fewer partners than prior generations, and have a significantly higher rate of actual monogamy. The vast majority of my generation expects to get married in our 30s. Sorry loser, but we have no interest in your sling rooms and fisting parties and early death. We may be economically and politically liberal, but when it comes to sex, we aren’t drinking your Kool Aid. (1970s reference added for your benefit.)
gossipbear
Guys, guys… LISTEN to dwes09 and the other couple of commenters on here who have actually READ the article. And yes, the title is deliberately misleading.
greybat
That’s like telling a quartet of thirteen-year-old girls to simmer down when they are Announcing to the World how gross something is!
CanadianGuy62
While I find the concept abhorrent…to each, his own.
As long as not one penny of public funds is going towards the event, then play on. If, however, any subsidy, in dollars or in-kind, goes towards it, then I think taxpayers have a right to be miffed.
Kangol
The concept of fisting is “abhorrent? Men consensually coming together to have sex and fist each other? What’s so telling to me is that a lesbian is objecting, on spurious grounds, but fisting is a not uncommon lesbian sex act. Lesbians fist each other vaginally, and anally. Maybe the lesbian who’s objecting doesn’t, but just ask any lesbians who are having sex on the regular, and they’ll tell you, in addition to tongues, strap-ons, fingers, dildos, etc., fists make an appearance.
Nuttypea
of course fisting is “abhorrent”, it’s a fist going into an asshole, it’s terrifying. If you looked up the words “Extreme sexual fetish play” fisting would be in the definition. Shakespeare didn’t write sonnets about how he’d love to shove his arm inside a woman. You’re being disingenuous if you’re trying to imply that anyone should be expected to view it as a beautiful romantic act.
dwes09
” You’re being disingenuous if you’re trying to imply that anyone should be expected to view it as a beautiful romantic act.”
No, YOU are being disingenuous, and in a typical regressive way…making stuff up and then attributing it to others.
He never said that, he only implied that the act was more common than the right wing is willing to accept, in both straight and gay/lesbian circles. Sorry you are so offended by both reality and things that are counter to your prejudices. Must make your regressive snowflake fears so much worse!
And by the way, look up abhorrent. It is a value judgement, it has nothing to do with reality. To the folks you idolize, YOU are abhorrent unless you conform to their image of acceptable activities for a fag. What fools you people are to cast your lot with those who find you unrepentant sinners regardless of how “discrete and respectful” you are to them. What self-hating worms you are to buy into the notion that the only proper way to be is the way the regressives say you must be!
Your self worth, your civil rights do not depend on them finding you acceptable or kissing their asses.
dwes09
Many taxpayers are “miffed” by their money supporting safe sex education, nutritional support for children, actual science education, real public health policy, art that is not “christian”, and more. To many, the fact that the organizers allowed such an event, even if no money actually supported it is bad enough. Do you also think they have a right to be “miffed”?
The use of public funds often offends. I am offended by the use of most public funds for wars supporting the profits of multinational corporations. That is something worth being more “miffed” by, as it has to do with lives and livelihoods!
Nuttypea
I’m offended by nothing, thanks for putting words in my mouth.
CanadianGuy62
I said, “While I find the concept abhorrent…to each, his own.”
Am I not entitled to be abhorred by the act (or even the mere thought of it)? Are we so politically-correct that, even though I also said, “To each, his own,” I am to be taken to task?
Wow! What an enlightened crew!
Brian
I’ll say it flat out, the concept of fisting is abhorrent. So is scat. If you find either of them appealing, get professional help.
dwes09
@nuttypea:
“I’m offended by nothing, thanks for putting words in my mouth.”
You cannot refer to something as abhorrent without being offended by it. I put no words in your mouth., I simply know that words have actual meaning. You agreed that fisting was abhorrent, in so doing you IN FACT said it was offensive to you. Get a dictionary and thesaurus you fool!
GOD! You regressives can neither think, read or write and are shockingly lost in your shared fantasy world. Where all that is acceptable is what you can personally handle, and words have no fixed meaning beyond what you think they mean.
PJBFan
If the money were going to the fisting party, I would be out of my mind were I one of those taxpayers. That being said, the money is NOT going to the fisting party, so this is silly.
That being said, I don’t care what your kinks are.
SiamSam
It’s hilarious to see certain posters rushing in to defend the good name of fisters everywhere, but also disturbing quite dangerous sexual practices are now being normalized or euphemistically called “kinks.” Remember when the religious right and other anti-gay bigots warned about slippery slopes? This kind of sick sh1t is just playing into their hands.
Brody
Sam –
The effort to offend is intentional.
These bozos only seek to shock and appall, then cry “Bigot!” when called out on their actions.
Been going on for decades.
Zan3y
Mostly every comment I read makes me sad, it’s funny how a community so desperately seeking acceptance rejects and hates people and discriminates people based on something they have no say on or have to participate in.
dsharpark
So I guess we fought for marriage equality so that you sickos can shove your arms up each others asses. I point out the god damned unassailable truth, and get censored… get bent. You make life harder for other gay people. So thanks… hope you have an extra enjoyable fisting tonight.
Brody
Welcome to the world of the pathologically selfish who insist their lifestyle be part of everyone’s lifestyle, regardless of how distasteful or harmful it is.
Kangol
Uh, yes, and “we” didn’t all fight for marriage equality. Conservatives repeatedly failed to call Republicans on the carpet for fighting tooth and nail against legalizing same-sex marriage. Also, marriage equality means that adults who are married will be able to live together under the law and engage in consensual behavior, which includes sex. That sex may or may not include fisting. But even before that, Lawrence v. Texas (2003) meant that you and your same-sex consenting adult sexual partner now had the right to have sex as you saw fit in the comfort of your home or a hotel or some other private, legal space. You seem to be beholden to homophobes or others who disapprove of what gay people do sexually, but that’s on you. If you don’t want to be fisted or fist someone, don’t do it. But stay out of other consenting adults’ bedrooms.
@Mo-Brody, you do realize that “the world of the pathologically selfish who insist their lifestyle be part of everyone’s lifestyle, regardless of how distasteful or harmful it is” ironically describes the anti-gay religious right you seem hellbent on defending, right?
greybat
You’re welcome!
Danny595
@Kangol – Fisting is not a gay practice. Heteros engage in it too. Further, the Lawrence v. Texas case did not say that anyone has the right to have sex in their home as they see fit. It held that sodomy laws, which criminalized anal and oral sex between consenting adults, are unconstitutional. The sodomy laws did not mention fisting.
Whether a state could outlaw fisting is an open question. If the practice results in widespread injury, a ban on all fisting, regardless of the sex of the parties, might well be upheld. I am not saying I would support such a ban, but it is wrong to say that such a ban couldn’t happen.
o.codone
At the end of this “article” the editor quotes some nut case tweeting, “I don’t kick up a stink when religious groups get public funding”?! So, now, somehow a disagreement over funding has become the religious right against fisting? This is poisonous rhetoric. This “article” is a twisted piece of sh*it. (notice how fisting is underlined as a spelling error?).
Brody
I have to wonder if the word “stink” was intended as a tasteless pun.
vpha1313
Is anyone else actually mad at Queerty for writing this article with the misleading headline in the first place? If the money isn’t going toward this party then there was no real point in even writing this article the way they did in the first place. Instead of arguing amongst ourselves in the comments, let’s actually call out this writer for deliberately provoking us into turning against each other
greybat
Queerty styles itself as a Tabloid, not as a News Service. This is what we Old Folk used to call “Infotainment”.
vpha1313
Good point. But still the amount of crap going on between us in the comments section doesn’t need to happen just because the writer wants to stir the pot and get people in an uproar over nothing. And I dislike the writer making fun of the people in Auckland for being upset by “clutching their pearls”. If it were true, they would have very reason to be upset.
Hugo
It’s clear that people are not discussing the money issue. They just want to say how much they feel disgusted by fisting.
Rex Huskey
yo asstard, perhaps ’cause the money is not the issue….geeze.
sydboy007
It would be good to clarify if the kiwifist receives any funding from the pride festival organising Committee?
I do question the wisdom of linking a gay pride month long festival with more extreme sexual activities.
Does the entire gay queer community have pride in fisting and say BDSM activities, or leather fetish? It’s certainly highly visible at some community events. Am I wrong to think there’s no need to be ashamed of how you enjoy sex, but there’s also no need to parade it around in public?
ShowMeGuy
There are some hard-core tighty rightys up in here pitching their *everyone should only do things which I think is right* song and dance. The same people who in America claim to be big supporters of **freedom**.
Herman75
Is Kweartee really some joke of a right wing think tank, trying to spin such a low common denominator?