Nikki Haley may have whiffed when she didn’t say the Civil War was about slavery. But did you know she had Black friends growing up???
The ex-South Carolina governor, who’s rising in Republican polls despite lacking any political instincts or charisma, tried to explain away her gaffe just ahead of the Iowa primary, which happens January 15.
It didn’t go well.
“I should’ve said slavery right off the point. But if you grow up in South Carolina, literally in second and third grade you learn about slavery,” she said. “You grow up, and you have, you know, I had Black friends growing up!”
No need to say any more, sister! Nimarata Nikki Haley is beyond caricature.
"I mean, I watched almost all of the Roots series."
— Mike Morton (@TheMikeMorton) January 5, 2024
With Haley now only trailing Donald Trump by four points in New Hampshire, GOP donors are trying to line up behind her should she somehow find a way to clinch the party’s nomination. But she seems determined to squash her momentum.
The real trouble began last week, when a Granite State voter asked her the cause of the Civil War, and she replied with “freedom.” She initially backtracked when her ridiculous claim went viral, only to double down and blame a “Democratic plant” for her misstep.
But now, she’s in total spin mode and she still can’t address the question properly. Haley’s response to the controversy has been so bad, she was even confronted about it on Fox News.
Amazingly, Haley and Ron “Don’t Say Gay” DeSantis both participated Thursday in CNN’s town hall, and she came off looking more disingenuous, which is really, really hard to do.
But there she was, talking about the need for kids to take off their shoes and empty their pockets before heading into first grade.
“We have to secure our schools the same way we secure our airports and our courthouses,” she said.
Haley went on to list an array of dystopian security measures she would like to see schools undertake.
“We have to do whatever we need to to make sure nothing comes through, bullet-wise or otherwise,” she said. “We need to have a security officer at the front of every school.”
“We need to have one-point entries, no side or rear entries. Then we need to make sure we have someone on staff—not a guidance counselor—but a mental health counselor who does nothing but look and see which kids may be in crisis. Let’s start there. That’s at least doing something.”
Or.. .you could try enacting more restrictions on guns.
But nope, Nihilistic Nikki says that wouldn’t work. Security guards and metal detectors are much more sensible! 🙄
Nikki Haley: "We have to secure our schools the same way we secure our airports and courthouses" pic.twitter.com/6DCrQwbKFH
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) January 5, 2024
Going forward, maybe it’s better for Haley to avoid talking about firearms altogether. It usually doesn’t go well for her…
Haley’s craven pandering is on full display whenever she talks about LGBTQ+ issues. Last week, she released a video decrying the military for forcing recruits to enroll in “gender pronoun classes.”
Girl, what?
For the record: The military does not require new recruits to enroll in “gender pronoun classes,” which, BTW, aren’t even a real thing.
At the last GOP debate, Haley tried to assert herself as the most homophobic person on stage, only for her plan to backfire.
Even though Haley has nudged past DeSantis in national polling, she still trails Trump by more than 50 points. It’s apparent the nomination is out of play (maybe barring Trump actually keeling over from a heart attack or campaigning from prison), so why is she debasing herself like this?
Her rivals think it’s because she wants to be Trump’s VP.
Chris Christie said Haley would “eat glass” for the opportunity, and DeSantis called her “phony.”
Meanwhile, Trump allies are letting it known they are adamantly opposed to Haley joining the ticket. Maybe a few more misstatements about the Civil War will do the trick!
Nope, probably not.
wikidBSTN
I LOVE Black people. My great grandpappy owned several of them! ~Nikki Haley
Baron Wiseman
He had to be a Democrat. Only a war could come between a Democrat and his slaves.
Love321
Baron Wiseman- you are aware that the Republican party is now the current party of white supremacy, and the Democratic party of the 1800s doesn’t bear any resemblance to the modern day Democratic party? Otherwise Democrats wouldn’t have elected the nations first black president. Maybe you should think before you make asinine comments next time.
wikidBSTN
Baron Wiseman – again striving to show the world that he is an uneducated idiot. Golf clap, please.
Kangol2
wikidBSTN, if Nikki Haley were White and from South Carolina great-great grandpappy might apply but:
A lot of people don’t realize that Nimrata Nikki Randhawa (Haley) is the daughter of Sikh immigrants from Amritsar, Punjab, India, via Canada. Both of her parents are Sikh and immigrated to Canada, where her father got his doctorate, and then to South Carolina, where he got a job (the only one he could get at the time) at a Historically Black College or University (HBCU), Voorhees College, where he taught for his entire career. Her mother taught in the local (Bamberg) public schools until she left to start a women’s clothing store.
So Haley’s ancestors, from a minority religious community, would not have been US slaveowners.
Ironically, her daughter, Rena, is married to an African American man, Joshua Jackson, a native of South Carolina, so Haley is implicitly insulting him and his ancestors by downplaying slavery and tossing out the “I had Black friends” cant when questioned about the US Civil War.
still_onthemark
Slaveowning wasn’t just for Democrats; a lot of Whigs owned slaves. The Republican party was founded as an explicitly anti-expansion-of-slavery party, while the Democrats split over the issue and the Whigs collapsed and went out of business. This is all pretty basic stuff that Americans (used to) learn in high school if they weren’t too stoned.
And it all has about as much relevance to our modern two-party system as McKinley and Bryan squabbling over the gold standard in 1896.
Baron Wiseman
@Love321
Actually taking credit for Barack Obama!?! When skin color is enough; vote Democratic.
Mack
@Baron Wiseass, Barack Obama was 100% better than Bush and so far ahead of the orange clown it isn’t funny. As usual your head is up your backside and you haven’t seen sunlight is so long you’re blind.
Love321
Baron Wiseman- The nations first black president, Barack Obama is a Democrat, and he was elected with the majority of help from the Democrats. So, you implying Democrats are even remotely similar to the Democratic party of 1700-1900 is asinine. You’re ignorant of Republican politicians utilizing the Southern Strategy to appeal to white CONSERVATIVE racist voters in the south. And you saying, “When skin color is enough; vote Democratic.” when slavery was 100% about skin color proves how asinine you continually make yourself out to be. You can not handle that the Republican party is the CURRENT party of white supremacy, and most Republicans opposed Obama because of white supremacy, so you want to project the racism of the Republican party onto your opponents. You’re being completely obtuse when you project the white supremacist slave trade of the 18th and 19th century onto the 21st century Democratic party that includes majority of black people electing people of color in higher positions. Republicans are now the party of white supremacy, and you projecting that onto others proves how ignorant of history you are.
Baron Wiseman
@Love321
“And you saying, “When skin color is enough; vote Democratic.” when slavery was 100% about skin color….”
My comment was in reference to the current Democratic party. Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. stated that we should be judged be the content of our character and not the color of our skin. Rev. King was right then and he is still right today. However, that is not what Democrats believe today. To be a Democrat today is not judging someone by their character and to be preoccupied with skin color. Democrats have it exactly backwards!
My comment was about today. If Barack Obama had been a white presidential candidate he wouldn’t have even got the Democratic nomination!
Love321
Baron Wiseman- Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. also said, “The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism. All people of goodwill viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right.” Civil rights activist, Dr. King knew in the 1960s that the Republican party is racist, just like it is today. If Barack Obama was a white presidential candidate, he wouldn’t have been attacked by the KKK, white supremacy, and racism in the Republican party. Obama was opposed by Republicans because of the white supremacy in the Republican party that Dr. MLK Jr. spoke about in the 1960s.
Bosch
“He had to be a Democrat. Only a war could come between a Democrat and his slaves.”
Lol dumfuk it’s a litte more relevant what the racists call themselves TODAY, not what they called themselves in the 1860s. Trying to look smart and failing, again.
Baron Wiseman
@Love321
Alveda King, the niece of Martin Luther King, Jr., has argued that her uncle was a Republican, like his father Martin Luther King, Sr., who was also a Baptist minister.
Baron Wiseman
@Bosch
“Lol dumfuk it’s a litte more relevant what the racists call themselves TODAY, not what they called themselves in the 1860s.”
I agree, but my comment was in response to someone’s previous comment, “dumfuk.”
Love321
Baron Wiseman- you have now been proven to spread LIES and misinformation. Alveda King apologized. There’s a reason why a NIECE said that and not Dr. MLK. Jrs children, or wife who know him MORE. Here’s the evidence. ” Next to that, I regret having said to a group of peers that my Uncle M. L. (Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.) was a Republican. I said that without having all the facts….Uncle M. L. was an independent, who in his own words tended to vote Democrat. Source: Newsmax
barryaksarben
baron dear baron once again the dicklesss wonder hasn’t got a date so the gop congressman who he is interning for gave him the query trolling job of which he has proven he is spectacularly horrible at. baron dear baron which ivy league school did you get into as a legacy when you couldn’t get in a state school with your grades. sorry you never have anything to do at night, poor baron
FreddieW
I know you must prefer Trump, given the way you keep ripping the only Republican who can defeat him. But people who are serious about this election and it’s ominous possibilites don’t give a damn about her civil war remark.
still_onthemark
I get where you’re coming from, and it may look to you like Queerty “prefers” Trump. You seem to imply that a more pro-Haley attitude from Queerty might just put her over the top! I’m pretty sure Queerty realizes they don’t have much if any influence over how New Hampshire and Iowa Republicans and independents vote.
If I lived in NH as a registered independent, I’m not sure what I’d do – get a D ballot just to write-in Biden? Or an R ballot just to vote AGAINST Trump? Probably the latter.
Haley made a really dumb mistake by forgetting she can’t talk in the same mealy-mouthed way in NH as she does at home.
still_onthemark
Also, it’s worth noting that in Iowa, independents AND Democrats are allowed to change their registration on caucus night to participate in the Republican caucus. But Haley refuses to reach out to them! Short-sighted to say the least.
FreddieW
She’s walking a tightrope, trying not to alienate Republicans while appealing to independent voters and Democrats who aren’t happy that Biden is running again. The Trumpists are like alligators down below, and you are right there with them.
Love321
Nikki Haley’s political positions are nearly identical with Trump. Nikki is just more censored while Trump isn’t.
FreddieW
Trump has no political position except whatever wins him the most attention and adulation from masses of unthinking people. If he could locate a sufficient quantity of American leftists to stroke his ego, he would be the world’s primary communist.
Kangol2
FreddieW, you might not be paying attention but Don the Con has laid out a series of political positions that are the most extreme we have ever seen from a major US presidential candidate. While President from 2017-2021, he governed as an extreme right-wing Republican, to the right of W Bush, George H W Bush, Ronald Reagan, etc., and so far to the right that it’s hard to imagine him being in the same party as figures such as Dwight Eisenhower. This is the same man who regularly derides Democrats (a center-left party) as “Leftists, Communists, Socialists.”
Yes, he seeks adulation and worship, craves attention, feels as if no laws, domestic or international, apply to him, and is showing increasing signs of dementia and sociopathy (he just told the people of Iowa to “get over” the horrific school shooting there!). If you still believe at this point that “leftists” would satisfy his ego, you are far, far gone!
Baron Wiseman
@Kangol2
“…a series of political positions that are the most extreme we have ever seen from a major U.S. presidential candidate.”
Really? Well, like FreddieW, I guess I wasn’t paying attention either. To me the “extreme” MAGA positions are….
• Secure the borders
• Secure the elections
• U.S. energy independence
• Get tough on crime
• Protect the unborn
• Stop child mutilation
• Parents decide for their kids
• Promote school choice
• Defend the U.S. Constitution
• Put America first
Democrats oppose all of this things, but I would hardly call it “extreme.” So please tell me what “are the most extreme we have ever seen from a major U.S. presidential candidate.”
Let’s say, your top 5:
1.
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3.
4.
5.
still_onthemark
@Kangol2: Freddie isn’t saying that at all, and he makes clear that he’s anti-Trump. He’s saying that Haley is the only Republican who could possibly beat Trump in Iowa or NH. Unfortunately, that’s true at this point.
still_onthemark
@Baron: Since Kangol hasn’t answered, I’ll say “Protect the unborn” is indeed an EXTREME MAGA position but you need to reword it to “Persecute women at every stage of pregnancy, throw them in jail for having a ‘suspicious’ miscarriage, display one’s ignorance of the female reproductive system at every opportunity, punish women’s travels to other states and punish anyone who even ‘helps them travel’ to other states, and oh yeah lock them up for contraception by mail too, just use the Comstock Act of 1873!” All of these are extreme positions that have become commonplace among Republicans in red states. But the general public, whenever they get a chance, no matter how red the state is, always vote YES in a landslide to abortion rights. This will happen in the Florida referendum too, but you guys never learn.
I actually agree with you about some of the other things on your list, but none of them (even illegal immigration) are anywhere near as important as abortion rights. None of them would ever drive me to vote for any Republican, especially Trump. I don’t get why all you disillusioned gay former Democrats – you’ve described yourself as a ’92 Clinton voter? – want to go all Handmaid’s Tale on the abortion issue and adopt the most absurd religious views. (Even Trump thinks you’re making a mistake.) You support women’s rights in the locker room, but nowhere else?
Baron Wiseman
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““…a series of political positions that are the most extreme we have ever seen from a major U.S. presidential candidate.”
Nice try .
How is this position extreme from other “major presidential candidate(s)”. Please tell which Republican presidential candidates have been pro-abortion? LOL!!! Reading comprehension is a good thing.
I’ll tell you what is extreme, when the abortionist has to count all the baby parts to make sure all parts were aborted.
Nothing I can say will change what the Democrats believe – killing babies is a good and moral part of “reproductive healthcare.” Sad.
Mister P
It’s possible that all these politicians run as republicans because they know they are easier to fool just like Trump did.
That explains why they never seem to have a plan for anything except criticizing other plans.
Interesting thought to ponder.
Openminded
That is not limited to Republican politicians. They all treat the electorate as idiots. I suppose they may be right because we seem to keep sending the same crap back to DC every election.
wikidBSTN
Trump supporters are more akin to Nazi Brown Shirts than true Republicans. They’ve just co-opted the GOP b/c the GOP gave them a place at the table. Ooooops.
Openminded
You never have to say “Ooops” when you state the truth. Right now the Republicans have a virus within the party worse than Covid. Sadly, we refuse to get vaccinated against this party virus also.
COTTONTOP
Truth!
Baron Wiseman
@wikidBSTN
There goes that 4th grade education failing you again.
The Democratic Left has an ideology virtually identical with fascism and routinely borrows tactics of intimidation and political terror from the Nazi Brownshirts.
The Democratic Left’s long, cozy relationship with Nazism: how the racist and genocidal acts of early Democrats inspired Adolf Hitler’s campaign of death; how fascist philosophers influenced the great 20th century lions of the American Left; and how today’s anti-free speech, anti-capitalist, anti-religious liberty, pro-violence Democratic Party is a frightening simulacrum of the Nazi Party.
Love321
Baron Wiseman- fascism is a right-wing ideology, and the George Lincoln Rockwell was opposed to liberalism much like you are. Again, you project your own racism, fascism, and antisemitism onto your opponents.
Love321
Baron Wiseman- Rocky Suhayda, the president of the American Nazi Party has said, “a Donald Trump presidency could give American Nazis the chance to build a ‘pro-white’ political caucus similar to the Congressional Black Caucus. He publicly supported the appointment of Steve Bannon to the position of chief strategist in Donald Trump’s White House.” you’re ignorant of history.
Baron Wiseman
@Love321
The absurd claim that fascism and Nazism are not socialist movements owes it origin to the hideous reputations those leftist regimes earned after World War II. How could progressives expect to thrive in America if the Holocaust and other atrocities were linked to its political relatives? Consequently, a gigantic lie was perpetrated by leftist intellectuals and slavishly spread by a sympathetic media — namely, that fascism was a movement of the “far right” and that conservatives were also on “the right.” This lie has long been a staple of Democrat propaganda and the basis for the absurd notion that President Trump is a fascist — not his violent, GOP-assassinating, speech-suppressing, “Antifa” opponents.
still_onthemark
Did Hitler and Mussolini think of themselves and their parties as “far right”? Of course they did. The socialists and other leftists they killed or locked up would be surprised to learn they were being killed or locked up by sneaky lefties who wouldn’t even admit to being lefties.
And where did you get this dumb idea that fascists were “anti-capitalist”? Were you fooled by the name “National Socialist Party”? Yeah, Hitler thought that might fool some of the more simpleminded voters.
Love321
Baron Wiseman- you have your fingers in your ear and just repeat Republican propaganda, so I’ll give you the facts more slowly. 1) Rocky Suhayda, the president of the American Nazi Party has said, “a Donald Trump presidency could give American Nazis the chance to build a ‘pro-white’ political caucus similar to the Congressional Black Caucus. 2) Rocky Suhayda, the president of the American Nazi Party has publicly supported the appointment of Steve Bannon to the position of chief strategist in Donald Trump’s White House. 3) these are FACTS. The leader of the American Nazi Party supported the Republican president. All you’re doing is spewing Republican propaganda and biased opinion.
Bosch
Lol dumfuk over here trying to say the Nazis were socialists and left-wing. Care to explain why the Nazis went after the socialists first? Care to explain why neo-nazi’s and Hitler apologists are always right-wingers?
Baron Wiseman
@Love321
Who the f?ck is Rocky Suhayda and more importantly who the f?ck cares?
Nobody! Nobody has heard of that person and for good reason.
American Nazis and white supremacists have no power in American political life. In a nation of 330 million people, their numbers are MINISCULE – unlike Antifa and BLM. President Trump has repeatedly rebuked their support throughout his career. So what is your point? What power do they have? Who listens to them? What influence do they have? What are they doing in 2024 that is pertinent to today’s electorate and political environment?
I know you progressives are consumed with all these supposed boogymen, but at least make it half way reasonable.
Love321
Baron Wiseman said, “Who the f?ck is Rocky Suhayda and more importantly who the f?ck cares?”
You’ve proven to not know anything on the topic you discuss further proving you’re not informed. If you’re talking about fascism, it’s important to cite the leaders of fascists organizations, and the leader of the American Nazi Party supports Republican Donald J. Trump, disproving your link that Democrats and the “American left are fascist”. American Nazis and white supremacists have helped to elect Trump. Trump’s political policies of creating a white ehtnostate is appealing to white supremacists and white nationalists who’ve supported those policies through the decades. You have NO clue on the topics you discuss. You want to indoctrinate people spewing Republican propaganda on fascism and Nazism and don’t know the leaders of the group, other than Hitler. You do NOT know what you’re talking about and not informed on the topics you indoctrinate others on. You prove how obtuse you are. Just because someone doesn’t wear a sheet over their head, or have a swastika doesn’t mean they’re not a white supremacist. Opposing open borders, law and order policies, opposing abortion, opposing LGBTQ rights, and affirmative action that benefits minorities are policies that the KKK and white supremacists have fought to support for years, they do have power; and that power is in the Republican party. You’re on a queer website selling propaganda in favor of a political party that has historically fought AGAINST the rights of same-sex couples.
dbmcvey
I wonder why she bothered to defend her not listing slavery as the cause of the Civil War. It’s not like the Republican base cares about that.
still_onthemark
True, the Republican base doesn’t care about that. And if she were speaking in SC to a friendly audience, no one would even notice what a weird answer it was (to a non-southerner). But she was speaking in New Hampshire, where independents can vote for her if they want to. Dumb thing to say!
dbmcvey
No. It’s not dumb.
Not when you have Republicans acting as through slavery was a jobs program with free room and board.
still_onthemark
@dbmcvey: Again, it’s NOT a closed Republican primary. Independents can vote in it! She’s acting like she’s running in a closed Republican primary in the South where she’d just have to appeal to the base. Instead she’s not even bothering to try to appeal to independents. Dumb!