The premise of Ron “Don’t Say Gay” DeSantis’ futile presidential bid was based around the notion that Florida was booming. But as it turns out, the Sunshine State is actually bursting.
In a new report, recent transplants and longtime locals alike describe Florida as a powder keg ready of oppressive heat, extreme costs and toxic right-wing politics just waiting to explode.
NBC News recently interviewed multiple Floridians, new and old, about the state’s offsetting vibe. Donna Smith, who lived in the Tampa Bay area for 30 years before moving to Pennsylvania in December, says the relaxed beach community that she loved is gone.
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“Instead, it’s just a constant stressful atmosphere. I feel as though it could ignite at any point, and I’m not a fearmonger. It’s just the atmosphere, the feeling there,” she said.
As of last summer, Florida was the second-fastest growing state in the U.S., only behind Texas. More than 700,000 people flocked there in 2022; and last year, there were nearly two homebuyers for every one leaving.
But simultaneously, there’s an exodus. Nearly 500,000 people left the state in 2022 as well.
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The weather, once Florida’s main draw, is now one of the biggest reasons people are leaving. With worsening storms and hurricanes, homeowners insurance rates are skyrocketing. They rose by 42% last year, an average of $6,000 per homeowner.
Car insurance rates are also 50% higher than the national average.
There are horror stories.
One woman who moved from Kansas was immediately met with an armadillo infestation, which caused $9,000 in damages. Her car insurance rate doubled, and Hurricane Ian took off her roof on her 62nd birthday.
Those calamities propelled her to think about heading home, and the politics ultimately pushed her out. A self-described “middle of the road” Republican, Barb Carter said she found the political discourse more oppressive than the humidity.
“You cannot engage in a conversation there without politics coming up, it is just crazy. We’re retired, we’re supposed to be in our fun time of life,” she said.
Another couple from Connecticut, one of the most expensive states in the country, said they couldn’t keep up with the swelling costs. Their homeowners insurance company threatened to drop them if they didn’t replace their 9-year-old roof, potentially a $30,000 project.
“Make sure you have extra money saved somewhere because you will need it,” said Veronica Blaski.
With home prices up 60% since 2020 and one of the lowest median salaries in the country, Florida is in the midst of a brutal affordability crisis. Solving these cataclysmic problems–climate change, poverty, societal division–requires bold and innovative thinking.
Instead, Florida has DeSantis, who’s fanning the flames in every possible way.
Nobody bears more responsibility for Florida’s noxious political environment than the antigay governor, whose hateful policies explicit target the LGBTQ+ community. DeSantis has signed bills that prohibit the discussion of sexual orientation and gender identity in classrooms, ban gender-affirming care for minors and stifle drag performances.
In addition, he’s signed a six-week abortion ban, and legislation that bans DEI initiatives at public universities.
But at long last, DeSantis is facing some resistance. A Florida court last month put parameters around “Don’t Say Gay,” ruling the law was being interpreted too broadly.
The court says the statute “would leave teachers free to ‘respond if students discuss . . . their identities or family life,’ ‘provide grades and feedback’ if a student chooses ‘LGBTQ identity’ as an essay topic, and answer ‘questions about their families.’”
Overall, DeSantis’ anti-LGBTQ+ agenda is hitting roadblocks in the Republican-dominated Florida legislature. According to Truthout, 21 of 22 anti-LGBTQ+ bills were effectively eliminated in this year’s legislative session.
On the topic of reproductive freedom, the Florida Supreme Court found the state constitution’s privacy protections don’t extend to abortion, allowing the six-week ban to stand…for now.
That caveat is required, because the court also allowed a ballot question about whether to expand access. This November, Florida voters will decide on a constitutional amendment that would guarantee the right to abortion up until “viability,” typically around 24 weeks.
The introduction of a ballot question on abortion access gives beleaguered Florida Democrats a boost. It’s been a galvanizing issue for Democrats across the country since the Supreme Court overturned Roe two years ago.
Recreational marijuana legalization, another popular progressive cause, is on the ballot as well.
DeSantis was teflon in his home state for years. But multiple calamities and an embarrassing presidential campaign are exposing his cracks.
ShaverC
According to Miami Realtors web site, “In 2022, 738,969 people moved to Florida, while 489,905 people moved out of Florida, with a net inflow of 249,064 moving to Florida.”
So not as dire as this article wants you to think.
abfab
And we all know what shape realtors are in theses days. It’s not good, and neither are your endless, tired, meaningless anecdotes .Move along, child. Happy house hunting in FL.
ShaverC
What you wrote makes no sense, as usual. Those are facts, not an opinion.
abfab
Move along, lady. Your Alternate Facts sound about as valid as Kellyanne Conway’s. Keep your mouth shut. Open it only when Doanld tells you to. You serve no purpose—–you even fail as a POS supporter!
We get it. You’re a GAY TRUMPER! Have a nice life.
ShaverC
How about these facts:
From Forbes: In 2022, California gained 475,803 residents but lost 817,669 residents. In 2022, California experienced a net loss of 341,866 residents.
From Business Insider: 545,600 people moved from New York between 2021 and 2022, while 301,500 people moved into New York. (loss of about 245,000)
From Innovation Map: 668,000 moved to Texas and 494,000 moved out… That’s a net gain of about 174,000.
abfab
Forbes. Good luck Shave. You’ll believe anyone!
bachy
Personally I’m thrilled to learn people are moving out of California. It’s been overcrowded for way too long.
War On Free Speech
@ShaverC
Democrats are immune from facts, reason and logic.
Bosch
Aww look, Shaver had a new friend! Well let me tell you, people here are VERY receptive to republican-stanning trolls.
What was your previous name, so I know how to abuse you?
War On Free Speech
@Bosch
Do you enjoy “abusing” people that think differently than you? I bet you profess to be one of those diversity lovers.
abfab
Profess? Nice.
Bosch
“Do you enjoy “abusing” people that think differently than you?”
No, but maga trolls who hang on Queerty sure do. That’s why they’re here, dumbass.
I just enjoy abusing dumb trolls.
Mack
That was TWO YEARS AGO. We’re talking right now. Get your head on right. Typical right winger goes and find some old reports to justify their stupidity.
Fahd
Lots of people have changed their plans about moving to Florida or are no longer considering it now that the crazy uncle mentality has permeated the place.
I’m hearing that many woman don’t realize they are pregnant within six weeks of becoming pregnant, so DeSaster’s six-week ban seems just plain wrong and unfair….and because of the state’s particular geography (lengthy peninsula), imagine the long drive to another state to have the abortion for that poor south central Florida woman in the seventh week of her pregnancy.
The abortion referendum on the November ballot certainly does present an opportunity for the Democrats; getting out the vote on that could lead to more Democrat candidates winning including Biden. The Democrats in Florida, who seem to be not very good at what they do, had better seek outside help on this,
War On Free Speech
The Democratic Party, aka The Party of Death.
You can always spot a good Democrat, as they like to kill their babies.
Bosch
No sugar. We just prefer safe, in-hospital abortions over your cousin sticking a clothes hanger up your cooch.
still_onthemark
@War: Don’t be silly, we need those babies so we can drink their blood like QAnon says.
War On Free Speech
@Bosch
Whether a hanger or forceps ripping a baby into pieces, it’s still murder.
Like I said, The Party of Death.
ZzBomb
@War
When a fetus can take the stand in court to defend itself then I’ll consider the possibility that abortion is murder. Until then, it’s just a fetus and none of your business.
War On Free Speech
@ZzBomb
Could you “take the stand in court to defend” yourself at six months old? By your own failed liberal logic, you should have been murdered.
The Party of Death.
ZzBomb
@War
Well I could at least be put on the stand at 6 months old b/c I would have BEEN BORN BY THEN!
Duh
abfab
Your mother had a choice, Baron. Why she kept you is the question.
Bosch
No dumfuk, before it has a brain it’s just a growth in a woman. But we all know republicans prefer to wait until they’re actual children, to get shot up in schools. Yay guns!
still_onthemark
@War: A large majority of voters support abortion rights and don’t like being called “murderers” for supporting abortion rights. In Florida it’s 70% support for the November referendum. Eight easy victories since Dobbs, get ready for #9.
Fahd
@War (formerly Baron Wiseman) As previously requested, please do not reply to my comments. I have no interest in communicating with you. I appreciate that you respected my wishes under your former screenname, and I thank you for respecting my wishes under your new alias.
Mister P
Most people don’t move in order to live in a red state or blue state. So even if your facts are true it really doesn’t mean anything.
War On Free Speech
@Mister P
In Republican counties, as defined by the 2020 presidential vote, 3.7 million more people have moved in than have left since 2020, while Democratic counties had a net loss of 3.7 million, according to a Stateline analysis of U.S. Census Bureau estimates and county presidential election data kept by the University of Michigan.
abfab
At least we have brains.
ZzBomb
@War
Not that I believe anything you say to be true, but those numbers should worry you b/c that means the blue is seeping into the red and making it purple, thus diluting the right’s ability to win elections. As seen by the elections in 2018, 2020, 2022, 2023, and this last month in deep deep red Alabama.
Cry it out, you’re losing but that’s ok. It’s how you grow as an individual.
War On Free Speech
@ZzBomb
That is about the only sensible thing you have ever posted.
Yes, it is a concern of the Republican party. Democrats have been trying for years to turn Texas purple/blue; evidenced by tens of millions to unseat Ted Cruz.
Democrats are like immigrants who move here from socialist countries. Many of them will continue to vote socialist despite the issues that made them leave their home country in the first place. Democrats are the same shortsighted fools.
Democrats need to stay in their own states. You voted for your own mess; now live in it.
abfab
STFU redneck. Change your name. Next try changing the jerk behind the name.
ZzBomb
The hilarity of this statement from Baron on an article about what a sh*t hole Desantis turned FL into:
“You voted for your own mess; now live in it.”
Bahahahaahahahaahah
Mister P
GTFO with your baby killing nonsense.
Go else where turdbucket.
War On Free Speech
@Mister P
The murder, the destruction of nearly 1,000,000 human souls each year in the United States is nonsense?
The Party of Death.
abfab
Ye, it’s one big orgy of death. Such fun!
still_onthemark
@War: What is your position on the millions of “discarded” IVF embryos?
Mister P
Obviously you love repeating your party of death mantra.
Forcing women to care for children they don’t want can’t take of is inhumane.
We should be pushing for birth control anyway.
The party of forced birth doesn’t like that either.
Of course, they don’t care about the 100s of thousands of orphans around the world and are pro death penalty and would carpet bomb a country in a heartbeat.
Go kiss the add of your kind somewhere else.
War On Free Speech
@Mister P
“Of course, they don’t care about the 100s of thousands of orphans around the world….”
Is that why there are more than 8,000 faith-based child placing agencies across the country, according to the Department of Health and Human Services?
abfab
Faith. Oh that’s a funny word. Esp coming from you Wiseman.
Mister P
I said it best in an earlier post.
GTFO. We don’t like your kind here.
We like our rights.
War On Free Speech
@Mister P
Said the diversity lover.
abfab
Baron….tell the world what kind of lover you are. What do you love. Do you love? You sound miserable.
Mister P, like most of us, celebrate diveristy. What do you celebrate. Find new catch phrases for your sarcastic come-backs. You’re stale….musty and stagnant.
Bosch
“Said the diversity lover.”
Lol. You think being a racist homophobe makes you “diverse”?
Dumbass.
War On Free Speech
@Bosch
Really, Bosch? The name calling? Is that all you diversity lovers got?
Bosch
“Really, Bosch? The name calling? Is that all you diversity lovers got?”
What do you think, this is International Be Nice To Trolls Day? Eat dirt, dumbass!
War On Free Speech
@Bosch
I never realized what a deep, intellectual you are. 🙂
decranzy
He has a science degree from DeVry University.
LegionKeign
@War On Free Speech, even according to the bible, they’re not considered viable until they have taken a breath. And if you and your christo-fascist brethren were so concerned about children, there wouldn’t be any hungry children or any children in foster care.
But folks like you don’t care about children, really; you use them as talking points. It’s always christo-fascists republicans voting to eliminate child tax credits, free meals, and other programs that benefit children in this country, not the Dems.
@ShaverC maga morons are moving to red states and moving out of Blue states like California and New York. That is a beautiful thing, not a bad thing. And remember, it’s the Blue States that support the red states, and eventually, the red states will all end up like Florida, unlivable due to high costs, low-paying jobs, no insurance coverage, and shitty laws.
War On Free Speech
@LegionKeign
Some sources estimate that there are about 2 million couples currently waiting to adopt in the United States — which means there are as many as 36 waiting families for every one child who is placed for adoption.
Like I previously stated, there are more than 8,000 faith-based child placing agencies across the country, according to the Department of Health and Human Services.
ZzBomb
@War
Sure, Jan.
And “faith-based child placing agencies” is just another name for grooming pedophile facilities.
abfab
Sure, Baron. Anything you say is all right by us. You’re brain is amazing and awesome. FREE SPEECH!
War On Free Speech
@abfab
Hey, little girl – does your mommy know you are on the computer?
abfab
Another one of his questions. Find your medicine, FreeBaron. A cup of tea. Something.
Mister P
Yeah. They want to adopt newborn white babies who are not addicted to opioids.
ZzBomb
Republican policies and agendas rarely have anyone’s best interests in mind, most especially of those who vote for them.
War On Free Speech
You mean like Joe Biden and tens of millions of unvaccinated, unvetted illegal aliens from over 150 different countries coming into our country? Is that what you mean?
abfab
Yes Baron, that’s exactly what we mean. Yes.
ZzBomb
@War
Oh you mean like the same that was happening when Trump was in office as well???
Don’t pretend to act like immigration is some “crisis” now when Trump killed the immigration bill. Remember, can’t call it a “crisis” if you’re not willing to do something about it. Sit and stew on that.
War On Free Speech
@ZzBomb
The Republicans have done something about it. While Dementia Joe and the Democrats were letting in millions of unvaccinated, unvetted illegal immigrants into our country, they passed H.R. 2.
While the Democrats were flying in hundreds of thousands illegal immigrants from all over the world into our country on chartered jets, Chuck Schumer denies to bring H.R. 2 to the floor for a vote.
Bosch
“While the Democrats were flying in hundreds of thousands illegal immigrants from all over the world into our country on chartered jets”
Explain.
War On Free Speech
@Bosch
The Biden Administration has admitted to flying as many as 320,000 illegal immigrants on secret flights into the U.S., in an effort to decrease the number of illegal immigrant encounters at the Southern Border.
Recent reporting revealed that, in 2023, the Biden Administration flew at least 320,000 illegal aliens into the U.S. in order to deliberately resettle them in American communities while, at the same time, artificially reducing the record-breaking number of border crossings happening under its watch. United States Senator Bill Hagerty (R-TN), a member of the Senate Appropriations Committee, recently spoke on the Senate floor and forced a vote on his amendment to the pending appropriations bill that would prohibit taxpayer funds from being used to secretly fly illegal aliens from other nations directly into states across the country for resettlement. Yet, all Senate Democrats voted against advancing Hagerty’s amendment. The vote was 51-47. (You know, because they are so serious about immigration!)
Meanwhile, under Biden, over 340 illegal aliens whose names appear on the terrorist watchlist were stopped trying to cross the Southern Border. So far in FY24, there have been 58 individuals whose names appear on the terrorist watch list who have been stopped trying to enter the U.S. illegally between ports of entry. There have been 1.8 million known gotaways who evaded U.S. Border Patrol. The number of gataways that are terrorists is unknown.
ZzBomb
Notice the lack of citation of facts in any of the lengthy and drawn out diatribe from Baron?
Notice also how triggered it gets b/c no one believes its lies.
Very telling esp considering I left for several hours and the unemployed right wing sh*t head is still here. They really must get paid by the word!? lol
Invader7
The Republithugs : taking away everyone’s rights all across the USA . Except for white, right wing, hetero, “christian ” repubs… The new NeoNazis !!
abfab
And bank-rolling struggling gay trolls so they look busy fighting for a man who grabs women by thier p u ss i e s.
War On Free Speech
Really? News to me.
As a gay man, what rights have been taken away from me? Please let me know, as this sounds important.
Bosch
“As a gay man, what rights have been taken away from me?”
Go hang a rainbow flag in a florida school and find out.
Whether or not you want to is irrelevant. You do not have the right.
But what a narcissistic response, at a time when women’s reproductive freedom is gone in the country you pretend to be from. Go ahead. Tell us how IVF is murder.
abfab
Baron can’t get thu a comment with out his mindless rhetorical questions. He’s looking for answers….don’t give him any. He knows where his sources are. He’s quite bright.
War On Free Speech
@Bosch
Schools in the United States were created to make better United States citizens, not better gays and lesbians. I don’t believe a rainbow flag or a BLM or a Christian flag should be flown at a school or in a school classroom. Sorry, that is not a “right” and certainly not one I endorse. Try again.
What the hell does women’s reproductive freedom have to with gays!?! You are hilarious! I love have liberals always skirt the the language such as “reproductive freedom”? What does reproductive freedom have to do with abortion and killing babies? The reproduction part already took place and its not been outlawed! The outlaw part is giving the right to women to have their nascent human life dissected, torn apart and aborted. The Party of Death.
Bosch
Lol. Troll has graduated from trans outrage to abortion outrage.
abfab
Baron is a creepy homo but he is not a Gay man. You can tell from his line of questions. I’d say he enjoys playing dumb, but he really is dumb. Aren’t you, Baron?
inbama
I don’t know who that loon is talking about killing babies, but I’d bet he hasn’t had any viable sperm since the Clinton administration.