Billy Dee Williams made headlines this week after telling Esquire he uses both masculine and feminine pronouns, but after seeing how the comments were interpreted, he has one question: “What the hell is gender fluid?”

The 82-year-old Star Wars actor dispelled the idea that he’d come out as gender-fluid, explaining to The Undefeated “what [he] was talking about was about men getting in touch with their softer side of themselves.”

He continued:

“There’s a phrase that was coined by Carl G. Jung, who was a psychiatrist, who was a contemporary of Sigmund Freud, and they had a splitting of the ways because they had different ideas about the … what do you call it? Consciousness. Unconscious. It’s collective unconsciousness. But he coined a phrase that’s, ‘Anima animus.’ And anima means that is the female counterpart of the male self, and the animus is the male counterpart of the female.

“So, that’s what I was referring to. I was talking about men getting in touch with the female side of themselves. I wasn’t talking about sex, I wasn’t talking about being gay or straight. People should read [Jung]. I mean, it would be an interesting education for a lot of people.”

Williams mistakenly linked the ideas of gender and sexual orientation, driving home the point that he’s straight:

“No, no, no, I’m not gay — by any stretch of the imagination. Not that I have anything against gay people. But personally? Not gay.”

Williams first played Lando Calrissian 1980’s Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back. He is reprising the role in the Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker, which will be released later this month.

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