The National Equality March is coming! The National Equality March is coming! And self-appointed leader Cleve Jones says he and his cohorts have raised $150,000 for the event, which is quite a bit of money! Jones even says he has the support of national gay rights groups, like the Human Rights Campaign and the National Gay & Lesbian Task Force. This would be significant — if it were true.
Jones has spent plenty of energy fending off critics who call October’s NEM a waste of time and, particularly, money. “There’s this notion among some people that there is a finite amount of money and a finite number of volunteer hours and a finite number of people that are available at any given time,” he tells the Southern Voice. “The purpose of a movement is to grow. A movement that does not grow dies. We must constantly work to expand that base of support.”
So does that base of support include Gay Inc. orgs like HRC and NGLTF? Supposedly!
While the heads of some local groups are voicing objections, Jones said national LGBT organizations have been “very helpful” in putting together the march. He said he’s expecting soon a joint statement from national groups, including the Human Rights Campaign and the National Gay & Lesbian Task Force.
Except if HRC is a part of things, they’re not saying.
How about we take this to the next level?
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Trevor Thomas, an HRC spokesperson, declined Monday to comment on the matter.
And if NGLTF is involved, well, this is news to them!
Inga Sarda-Sorensen, a Task Force spokesperson, said her organization had no plans to release a joint statement on the march and was unclear as to what Cleve was referring.
Huh.
This isn’t to say HRC and NGLTF won’t end up support the march. But HRC, for one, is busy with its own travels. That, and a previous statement from HRC seemed to conveniently shrug off any notion it would back NEM. And NGLTF was basically a no: “National marches can certainly have a community-building impact when energized participants return to their hometowns and get involved, but in an economic downturn — when resources are extremely limited for individuals and organizations, and critical work remains to be done locally — focusing on grassroots organizing at home is all the more critical.”
UPDATE: Turns out HRC will back the march.
SM
The march is a fantastic idea. Not sure why they didn’t make it in the spring when more people could make a vacation out of it.
If you live in CA, there is something you can do now to repeal Prop 8. It’s the people not doing anything that are costing you Equality.
Join a team
http://www.couragecampaign.org/equalityteams
Albert
The only thing I like about being gay is the sex, could care less about laws, and marches, rights and shit like that…lol, yeah go ahead and crucify me.
InExile
The march is a great idea and badly needed. Of coarse HRC is not supporting it, people will not wear black ties to an outdoor event. America needs to know we are tired of waiting for equality, time to get mad and loud.
Brian
D.O.A. Bad idea.
MuffinMan
Cleve Jones isn’t as cute now as he was in Milk. I thought I would point that out.
Mark C.
$150,000? For what? Nobody is going.
getreal
I am a huge fan of Mr.Jones but do agree with wasting money and resources on a march when we have serious ballot initiatives coming up next year in key states. I am all for a national march but why not 2010 why it can be used as momentum to get people to vote for justice not bigotry. When people go to marches they rarely do anything else movement wise. We need to let go of the rally culture it doesn’t get bad legislation overturned.
galefan2004
Cleve really needs to get with a time. Volunteer hours and monetary contributions are very very FINITE. Even worse than that, when a volunteer gets involved with a cause they don’t see any reward (as in the cause actually advancing) from that effort then they are much less likely to volunteer again. You are kidding yourself if you don’t think that volunteer hours and money are finite in this economy. It costs money to volunteer. You have to go to the place (in this case pay to go to DC) and then you have to pay for your meals and your lodging. All of this is on you to pay for, so in many cases people that would just love to volunteer are left wondering how the hell they are supposed to afford it.
galefan2004
@Albert: Either you are trolling, being naive or just haven’t reached a point in your life that you start to get pissed off by the fact that you can’t even see your boyfriend in the hospital if they are sick because the family can block you. Perhaps you also live in a more forward area of the country and can’t imagine losing your job simply because you are gay and your boss decided he/she didn’t want a gay guy working for him/her. All the power to you. However, I’m not going to crucify you for at least being honest about your opinion. Do you enjoy bath houses or do you just cruise craigslist?
Mark C.
@Albert: How’s Sunday at 10 AM?
Andrew
Someone tell Cleve the gig is off. Make refunds. Please.
schlukitz
@Albert:
yeah go ahead and crucify me.
No need.
If, God forbid, what happened to Matthew Sheppard ever happens to you, you will probably be wondering, as you suck in your last few precious breaths of life, why there is no one there to help you?
Life has a peculiar way of giving back to us, precisely what we put out.
Just sayin’…..
schlukitz
@MuffinMan:
Cleve Jones isn’t as cute now as he was in Milk. I thought I would point that out.
What has that got to do with the price of tea in China? LOL
hyhybt
@schlukitz: Making a suggestion for “Morning Goods?”
23 year old
I’ll be there 🙂
uffda
I’m going.
Qjersey
The NGLTF and the HRC won’t back anything that wasn’t their idea.
schlukitz
@Qjersey:
And that’s shy we’re spinning our wheels and getting no place fast! 🙁
They just keep taking our money and going to fancy, black-tie, fundraiser dinners where they dine and dance the evening (and our lives) away and schmooze with the politicians in Washington, DC.
Andrew
@Qjersey: You said: “The NGLTF and the HRC won’t back anything that wasn’t their idea.”
Perhaps. It’s clear HRC and NGLTF are just treading water and making sure they still have jobs. No solutions to obtain equality are coming from the.
The rest of us won’t back anything that’s “stupid.” This March was DOA. It is a waste of money and it won’t change anyone’s opinion of gays and lesbians. Because people “see us in a big group” (perhaps moving slowly and maybe shouting)does nothing to change the “perception” of homosexuals.
I’m not sure why Cleve ran the article – he knows it’s been cancelled. That decision was made last week. They will announce soon that it is postponed until next Spring or that they have a new idea: training activists. The latter must be because Cleve is such a successful activist. My friend has been working on the project and said they knew there was a problem when the website didn’t get much action.
Make the announcement Cleve, so people can focus on other projects.
Julian Edward Domain
I’m not waiting till the tee shirts are ready to march for my rights.
Mark
“Jones even says he has the support of national gay rights groups, like the Human Rights Campaign and the National Gay & Lesbian Task Force. This would be significant — if it were true.”
How embarrassing.
Andrew W
I hate to be a pain-in-the-ass, but I do it well. Part of the problem with the March is the date October 11, 2009.
1. Columbus Day Weekend (people have plans for the long weekend)
2. National Coming Out Day (Events in Cities throughout the US)
3. National Breast Cancer Walkathon (D.C. and 42 other cities)
4. “Million Man March For God” on the Mall (Permitted)
5. Kicking for Kids at the White House (Prosthetics & poor kids)
What do you think will make the Evening News?
Cleve should go ahead and confirm the event has been cancelled, postponed or perhaps “re-thought.” The first time was poorly done.
Shawn
Actually myself and many of my group is going…and btw, has any of the naysayers actually looked at the site? again, ignorance from those who wish to leave their cent on queerty.
And…at least SOMEONE is taking a stand…instead of HRC, GLAAD and the rest of those “who work for us” just sending out letters. I’m actually wanting more than protests…
How did MLK jr and Mohandas Gandhi get their rights? By writing letters? or by taking to the streets and showing the world the injustice that was going on. We gays just don’t get it really. We want our rights…but only if we can do it from behind a desk, only if we don’t have to get arrested and beaten. I’m sorry, but at least Cleve Jones isn’t scared like apparently the others are. I’ll be there and so will many of the others in my group and from groups all of the US.
We’ve sat patiently behind desks and asking nicely for what is rightfully ours for over 40 years now…what has it done? I still can’t get married…I still get a death threat every once in a while…
So sit behind your desks and go to your gala events…I’m marching.
schlukitz
@Andrew W:
Gee…with all that stuff going on, who has time to work? LOL
Brian
@Shawn: You asked: “How did MLK jr and Mohandas Gandhi get their rights?”
Well, as far as MLK is concerned he claimed the stuff in the Bible about Blacks and Slavery were LIES. He organized the effort to reject those lies and it worked. Even religion denounced those biblical references and actually apologized.
Marching in Washington won’t change anything about the BIG LIE in the Bible – the one that says “homosexuals are wrong, sinners and deviant.” That’s what needs to be changed because that is why people hate homosexuals – it is THAT BELIEF. Unless you deal with that you can March around forever and get no results (just ask the Jews).
The reality is that maybe 25,000 people will show up and March in October. It isn’t a show of strength or even moving. It has no purpose. Nobody cares.
Marching or having a rally has to be tied to an event. If something warranted our participation we’d all show up – Prop 8 demonstrated that in CA. But, there is NO event. There is NO Agenda. There is NO purpose. There will be NO participants.
Instead of wasting your money on this March, spend it in your neighborhood. Introduce yourself to some straight people and let them know you’re nothing like the “religious description” we’ve endured for 2,000 years. If they know you and the TRUTH about you, they will be more likely to discard their unbelieveable religious crap and understand that you deserve equality.
Gays will never have end the shame until they put Equality BEFORE Religion.
Mark C.
@Shawn: Oh, the National Equality March Website – web traffic stats indicate the site has never exceeded 4,000 visitors during any week since it was launched. I was also told that they have had less than 14,000 people submit their email addresses. This is nothing compared to promoters “expectations” of a million people. Nothing.
It is supposed to be cancelled any day now because of an obvious and prudent lack of interest.
Make other plans.
Pop Snap
@Albert:
If you would have even said you were gay forty years ago you would’ve likely wound up in jail someway or another. This is what infuriates me about my fellow young (16-24) GLBT people: “lol i like fucking guys idc about marrying or shit like that” what the hell? This attitude is VERY PREVALENT too, trust me. I’m 18, and get disgusted at my gay friends who don’t even know what Stonewall was, or who Harvey Milk was, but yet still go out to Club Utopia every Saturday night without even knowing why they can do such a thing without fear of being killed and having the authorities look the other way when it does happen. It’s a HUUUUGEE problem and I am shocked that more movement elders aren’t adressing it and putting such complacent retards like Albert in their place.
If it weren’t for us who were actually mature and concerned about our rights, and our future, and our children’s future, you would be sitting in a jail cell and being taunted, abused, and harrassed by the police & your fellow inmates with no mercy for just saying you liked to have sex with other men. Thanks to the brave people who spent their lives and gave up their careers and families, you can sit here at your computer and say you like buttfucking and that you don’t care about those old limp-dick fogies wanting to get married n shit.
Go ahead, keep on not caring bud, see what happens if all of us end up not caring. I get more pissed off at people like you than I do at fundies.
I can keep on going and write a damn essay about how much this pisses me off, but I think I’ll just go grab some coffee and watch last Sunday’s TrueBlood again.
schlukitz
@Pop Snap:
I’m one of the old-timers who was around at the time of Stonewall
and who knew Harvey personally. And yes, I spent a night in a cold jail cell at the “Tombs” in NYC, just for being on West Street after 11pm one summer evening back in the mid-60s.
By simply being there, I and 300 of my peers had violated the “Waterfront Act”, an old law from back during WWII that had never been taken off the books. We were all arrested in a drag-net sting operation that looked like something out of a war movie. I never saw so many flashing lights and guns in one place in my entire life.
Ever since reading Albert’s post, I have been pissed and thinking about how to address his post. I am glad that I waited, because you did a much finer job of it than I ever could have. But, the best part, is that it is coming from one of his peers, and not some “old Queen” whom he would surely bitch out had I said a word.
Thank you for the consciousness awakening. I truly hope that it has some effect on Albert and others like him.
SFNative
@getreal:
Please tell me in what year African-Americans would have had their civil rights in the South if they had tried to get their civil rights via a public vote.
In my book, putting money towards ballot initiatives that put our fundamental civil rights to a public vote is ultimately a waste of resources, when fundamental civil rights should NEVER be put to a public vote, and instead we should be fighting for our civil rights on a FEDERAL level. Look at the African-American Civil Rights movement – did they EVER VOTE on their civil rights? No, they fought for their civil rights in WASHINGTON D.C., and THEY GOT THEM, and their civil rights are unwavering because they were FEDERAL rights that they got.
If you ask me, people who argue about voting on our civil rights are being way too defensive, and we should go on the offensive. You never ASK for your rights from the people. You FIGHT and TAKE your civil rights from the government!
M Shane
No. 7 · getreal
“‘We need to let go of the rally culture it doesn’t get bad legislation overturned.”
I beg to differ with the adddtude of lazy Americans who set aside their freedom of speach, freedom of assembly rights
when it has throuout history shown to often be the only way to turn a deaf governments ears to the people’s voice.
If you weren’t around then, you can watch any documentary about it; It was the massive demonstrations that brought an end the illicit war in Vietnam. 25 million people around the world demonstrated against the Iraq War, which despite the U.S.’s indifference, which had they listened would have stopped a human crime of unequaled dimensions from occuring. Demonstration have occured at nearly all important event in history in which a governmet has done a wrong.
People may not be seeing it but the strenght of the fanatic element is growing to dangerous proportions. We may end up having top pickup guns to defendourselves if the crazies
grow in power. I saw a reliable documentary in which it ewas stated that 1/3 the membership of both legislative houses are %100 approved by the Family Values Council(?)
the most extremeof the organizatiom=n sopposing us totally.
Only cowardice or unconcern should stop people from demonstrating theitr views.
This Albert (above ) shows the simple ignorance regarding gay concerns.that can stop peope from taking a hand in things.
Brian
@M Shane: The “protests” you mentioned were pre-Internet. We have the ability to communicate in greater numbers than ever before. Marching around in a “show of strength” or “getting attention” for “demands” can all be done without travelling to DC.
The National Equality March never had a strategy that would compel people from around the US to participate. A website doesn’t make an Event.
Now, we’ve wasted $150,000 of gay-resources on this Parade… uhm … Charade.
Chitown Kev
@SFNative:
No, but there were quite a few state ballot initiative for women’s suffrage in the late 19th and the early 20th century and womwn did win a few of them.
Brian
@SFNative: You have too very good Attorneys working on our behalf (Federal Courts) and they are ALREADY in Washington D.C. If you’re just looking for a fun weekend trip, try Miami.
Equality is much more important that Civil Rights. If we had equality we would actually WIN votes about our Rights. We are “hated” more than we are “oppressed.” We have to end the reason people hate us – Religion. That is the only thing that will lead to equality. We MUST put Equality BEFORE Religion.
schlukitz
@SFNative:
Getreal lives in the fantasy land of “One by one. Heart by heart.”
Why does former Mayor LaGuardia come to mind, I wonder?
LITTLE TIN BOX
“Fiorello”
(“Your Witness”)
Mr. X, may we ask you a question?
It’s amazing, is it not?
That the City pays you slightly less than fifty bucks a week
Yet you purchased a private yacht
(Witness replies)
I am positive Your Honor must be joking
Any working man can do what I have done
For a month or two I simply gave up smoking
And I put my extra pennies, one by one,
Into… a…
Little tin box, a little tin box
That a little tin key unlocks
There is nothing unorthodox
About a little tin box (about a little tin box, about a little tin box)
In a little tin box, a little tin box
That a little tin key unlocks
There is honor and purity
Lots of security
In a little tin box
Mark
Oh, Cleve you shouldn’t have lied about HRC and the other Gay Inc. groups “endorsing” your silly idea. Now, they won’t even return your calls.
It is bad enough to take money from well-intentioned people for an idea with little to no merit, but lying about the status of your project? This is why Gay Inc. and our tattered “movement” is so fucked up – “charity pimps,” like Cleve.
Give the money back.
Bri
@Andrew: “he knows it’s been cancelled. That decision was made last week. They will announce soon that it is postponed until next Spring or that they have a new idea: training activists.”
I heard that before and then I got a tweet from NtlEqMarch saying “In October we’ll march.”
Andrew
@Bri: “In October we March.” You would say the same thing if you were out there “raising money.”
Cleve knows that when he finally admits the National Equality March is
(a) postponed,
(b) cancelled,
(c) out-of-business or
(d) under investigation,
he will no longer be able to collect any money.
He should have called the thing off sooner. Now, lying about “support” just makes him look even worse. People who donated should be asking for an accounting AND a refund. Nobody seems to know what Cleve’s salary or expenses are or why he suggested the event in the first place. +$150,000 donated to Cleve (so far) may answer some of those questions.
schlukitz
Is this all we LGBT people ever get for our “donations” and support?
Broken promises and dashed hopes and dreams?
Bri
@Andrew: That sort of reminds me of what was going on with Michael Petrelis and Iraqi LGBT.
Bah. Point taken, I guess. I’d like to hear it from someone involved with the “march”, however, before I fully believe it.
SM
LGBT need to start showing up and meeting the wingnuts face to face.
At least some people are.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/8/9/763978/-Town-Hall-Recap-NY-20:-I-have-met-the-wingnuts,-they-are-very-scared-and-dumb-as-hell
Drew
Yes, they are supporting it as bruce bastian (a huge funder to HRC) supports it and has paid for it! HRC follows the money@Qjersey:
Drew
@Andrew W: Also its the day after the HRC national dinner…. so a lot of people will be in DC for it. Sounds like a good day to me!
Trooper
Hello Queerty and commenters,
I’m involved in some of the planning and logistics for the National Equality March. After reading similar comments from the same two or three posters throughout this website over the past month, I see that there is a need to reassure readers here that the event is still happening. I’m not sure why people are commenting that it’s been canceled, but it most assuredly has not.
I know we have folks who disagree with the concept, but please stop spreading this incorrect information. There was indeed an event called the National March for Equality that had been in the planning stages for April of 2010. We had no knowledge of their plans when the Oct 11, 2009 march was announced and once we contacted them to discuss the potential conflict, they decided to cancel their event and show support for ours. Perhaps this is what is confusing people…or perhaps people just don’t agree with the march and are doing whatever they can to discredit it.
Either way, if you need further information, please visit http://www.nationalequalitymarch.com to see what we’ve been doing in preparation for the event, research the newly formed Equality Across America to learn about how we plan to utilize the momentum from the march, or join our facebook page (search National Equality March) and follow us on Twitter. http://twitter.com/NtlEqMarch
See you in DC in October!
Mark C.
Gee Trooper. That’s the spirit! This is apparently their “hail Mary pass.” I am also aware of the planning of the event and I believe that “telling the truth” would work better here. This event has NOT received much attention on their website or email registration. There have been numerous conversations about cancelling, postponing or repackaging the event. The only reason to continue to mislead people is an effort to raise more money.
Trooper: If the event is STILL on, please post an accounting of the money raised so far for everyone to see. That shouldn’t take you long.
ValleyBoy
I have been involved in planning the National Equality March and I echo Trooper’s remarks. The NEM has not been canceled, nor have there ever been any discussions about canceling the National Equality March.
I am not sure where this rumor is coming from, but I assure you that it is untrue. We will be marching in Washington, DC in October and we would love to have all of you there with us, standing up & fighting for your rights.
Mark C.
Oh great. Another Cheerleader. Well, then why don’t you hop, skip and jump into Cleve’s Office and get those accounting numbers? How has the $150,000 been spent on this non-event?
We both know it’s not a rumor. Tell the truth and STOP raising money.
poirierjane
SOUNDS LIKE QUEERTY DOESN’T SUPPORT THE MARCH. BY PUBLISHING THIS “ARTICLE” WITHOUT PUTTING IN YOUR SUPPORT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER REMINDS ME OF HIGH SCHOOL WHEN SOMEONE WANTS TO SABOTAGE ANOTHER’S PROJECT WITH CUT DOWNS AND GOSSIP.
A STAND FOR EQUALITY DOESN’T NEED ORGANIZATIONS SUPPORTING IT AS MUCH AS THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO MARCH AND ARE GOING TO MARCH.
WON’T YOU LOOK SILLY WHEN THE MARCH GOES ON AND NO ONE TALKS ABOUT YOU OR YOUR ORGANIZATION SUPPORT?
WE DON’T NEED PESSIMISTS WE NEED ACTIVISTS.
Brian
@poirierjane: ^ That must be from Cleve Jones.
Mark C.
Jane:@poirierjane: There are plenty enough activists. What we need is a good reason and a credible organization. Nobody knows what Cleve and his friends are up to besides raising money.
If you really want to March, call Cleve and asked about the accounting. He may have raised $200,000 by now and nobody seems to know where the money went.
Iraq LGBT raised a lot less and had international scrutiny regarding their use of funds. They recently shared the accounting (and some explanations)and I think they’ll do fine now.
Self-appointed “leader” of the March – Cleve Jones, may mean salaries and expenses for him and his friends. We don’t know if he refuses to provide the information. The longer he waits, the closer it gets to a full scale investigation.
Encourage Cleve to turn over the budget/accounting NOW.
Demand Equality
Mark C. Exposed.
Who is Mark Cahill? A man who has made it his business to “witness” at gay rights demonstrations, declaring that there is only “one side… God’s side.” He is involved with groups like Operation Save America that are trying to shove fundamentalist Christianity into public schools. Mark Cahill’s mission is to transform this country into a place where people who don’t share his values are shut down and shut out.
And now Mark Cahill’s fervent intolerance has taken him so far that he’s decided to violate the Ten Commandments, bearing false witness, outright lying in order to keep people from attending a political demonstration he doesn’t agree with.
Are you going to stand with Mark Cahill? Are you going to let people like Mark Cahill speak for you while you slouch off at the side in silence? The more people like Mark Cahill tries to shut Americans down, the more inclined I am to head to Washington, DC on October 11 and speak up.
Check it out at http://irregulartimes.com/index.php/archives/2009/08/09/national-equality-march-is-not-cancelled-dont-believe-the-snipe/
Tanner
There are a lot of uneducated rumors going around about the National Equality March. It’s time that they stopped.
What is being created with this march is truly one of a kind – and, in my humble opinion, it’s brilliant:
By organizing and motivating people in every single Congressional District we can ensure that local lobbying is taking place everywhere… not just in California and New England. Everywhere.
History has taught us that we will never win our civil liberties on a state by state basis – in fact, no minority ever has. We need to start demanding federal protection… but nationwide local lobbying is the most effective way to get it.
It is time to motivate people. It is time to create leaders. We must capitalize on the passion of the generation while we have it. And that’s why “now” is the only time we have.
Queerty has a tendency to demonize our leadership – what we as a community do not seem to understand is that we are cutting ourselves off at the knees.
Have some faith. Have some respect. And stop asking how we can get dramatic media… start asking “how can we help”?
We have our equality to achieve, after all.
Mark C.
@Demand Equality: I thought you were one of the paid staffers of the “March that Wasn’t.” But, I’m afraid your post is way out there – very strange.
I think enough people know the March isn’t happening (I happen to know first hand) and you must be one of the hopefuls.
The whole idea didn’t make sense. Cleve Jones not releasing any financial information didn’t make any sense. These goofy outbursts by so-called “supporters.” The LIE to the media that other groups had endorsed the event.
This whole charade is to raise money. Now, tell us how much money has been raised and how is it being spent? That’s simple to do.
Andrew.
@Tanner: I think some of the issues raised are legitimate. It makes me curious, especially about the money collected and how it is being spent.
You seem like you probably work for the deal – do you know?
Brian
@Tanner: Where will we stand? I think I will stand in MY City, with MY Signs, MY friends and talk to MY neighbors.
Nobody needs to go to Washington DC where they WON’T be noticed, or heard or even effective.
Demand Equality
To Mark C
Great response!
You are a phony! You are exposed! You continue the lies! Queerty needs to step up to the plate!
MarkC.
@Demand Equality: Queerty did, along with most of the comments here: Cleve lied about the endorsements. The March is a dumb idea. Where’s the money raised?
We Demand Accounting.
hyhybt
The march is a stupid idea, made worse by their going about organizing it in exactly the opposite way to anything logical. Why go out on your own, set up a date, and hope people will show up? He/they/whatever should have first found out whether there are enough people able and willing to attend a march, *then* found a convenient date. A large enough event, at the right time, would get some good publicity and might even, at the outside limit of possibility, have some minor positive, real effect. But instead they set a date first and just expected everyone to go along with it.
(If there were a decent turnout expected, and if I had any money, I’d go for the fun of it. But there won’t be and I don’t, and besides, fun isn’t supposed to be the point)
Brian
@hyhybt: I agree. This event was messed up from the beginning. Some day we will have a big March and we’ll all be there, It will be because we have equality. It WILL be a PARTY.
This Cleve Jones (sloppy management) March idea never made sense. I would like to add my name to the list of people curious about where the money has been spent. Tell us Cleve and Lance. It is important.
BiCoastal
Where’s Cleve? He has some explaining to do. Now would be good.
GayTheist_dfw
Speak up Cleve Jones. What happened to the money? What did you spend it on. You said the March only needs “$50,000” but you now have $250,000 according to some reports. What’s the deal?
Tell us.
ChaseInAustinTX
This is sooooo over. Let’s try to put together a March in the Spring. I have asked HRC to deny endorsement of this mess. They replied that they “had no involvement in the National Equality March and were not aware of it’s goals or purpose.”
I think the March is a good idea. I think the mystery surrounding this event is disconcerting. What ever happened to being open and transparent? Who is in charge of this event?
Daniel
The logical thing is to have the march take place in each of the Congressional Districts (a national march taking place across the nation – a way better idea). That way it is regional organizing that can last long after the march and without the expense of traveling to DC where Congress will not even be in session.
Demand Equality
Except….HRC just did endorse the march.
http://www.hrcbackstory.org/2009/08/hrc-statement-on-national-equality-march-in-washington/
Brian
@Demand Equality: How much did Cleve Jones PAY for the Endorsement? Will this show up in the accounting? Has anyone seen the accounting for the $250,000 that Cleve has collected?
Jim
@Brian:
Funny thing, but one Mark Cahill, fundamentalist Christian witness gay pride marches, just posted the same comment here: http://irregulartimes.com/index.php/archives/2009/08/09/national-equality-march-is-not-cancelled-dont-believe-the-snipe/comment-page-1/#comment-563429. You just happened to think that same one up?
Will Queerty admins please look into the sock puppet trolling here? It’s pretty apparent from choice of vocabulary alone that there more names posting on this thread than there are actual people — and the fundamentalist video-evangelist Mark Cahill, at the very least, is bearing false witness about the facts and his intent.
I am NOT saying that criticizing the National Equality March on this thread is involved in fundamentalist anti-gay skullduggery. But I AM saying that a quick IP check will probably show that “Mark Cahill” is fronting more than one of these characters.
Andrew
Cleve Jones: One a Hustler, always a hustler. But, with this money – $200,000, we need to know how it’s being spent.
James III
@Jim: Half the people on here are wayward Christians.