Hi Jake,
I recently relocated to a new city for work, and have had to rebuild my social circle. For the most part, I like my new friend group. They’ve been super welcoming, and I genuinely enjoy hanging out with them… except when they talk about politics.
They are all very liberal. That’s fine. I believe everyone is entitled to their own political beliefs and opinions. That said, I consider myself more moderate/conservative (just to be clear, I am NOT a MAGA Republican and am appalled by that faction of my party).
How about we take this to the next level?
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Every time we go out as a group, either to the bar or a party or some sort of event, the conversation inevitably turns to politics. Someone will bring up current events, or the election, and pretty soon that’s all anyone wants to talk about for the rest of the night. From there it usually becomes a Republican pile-on, where they just make sweeping, sometimes really offensive generalizations about all conservatives. I usually keep my mouth shut when this happens.
I don’t feel comfortable speaking up because I’m new to the group, and because I know I’ll be totally outnumbered. Plus, if they knew I’m a Republican they might not want to be my friend anymore. That said, I also don’t agree with a lot of what they say, especially when they call all Republicans hateful, selfish, racist, homophobic, uneducated, etc.
The irony to all of this is that they consider themselves “open-minded” when in reality they’re just as blind to certain things as the group they criticize (for some reason they don’t seem to see it that way).
Politics aside, I really do like them all and want to keep being friends. But part of me feels like I’m back in the closet and can’t tell them I don’t agree with all their beliefs. What’s the best way to address this?
Quiet Conservative
Dear Quiet Conservative,
The world is extremely divided right now, especially when it comes to politics.
With social media feeding us content that often only fortifies our personal views, it seems like people are becoming more and more entrenched in their beliefs, making sweeping generalizations about “the other side.”
The fact is, politics involves nuance. There are many factors at play in our governing bodies, from social issues to economic challenges to international diplomacy. Regardless, people tend to take a hard stance, leaving little room for discourse. Considering that our rights are affected by what happens in government, it’s not surprising LGBTQ+ people feel particularly strongly.
A year ago today, there were literally 650 anti-LGBTQ bills targeting our community, in 46 states, with some calling it a “war on our existence.” As of today, the ACLU is tracking 484 anti-LGBTQ bills in the U.S. Even though not all of these will become law, they are all threats to our freedom, and attacks on queer people. Almost all of these have been introduced by conservative or Republican lawmakers, so hopefully you can see why this topic is so charged with your friends.
That said, even though the general consensus is that liberal politics are more aligned with gay rights, that doesn’t necessarily mean everyone who leans more conservative is a monster.
Sadly, radicals like Donald Trump, Marjorie Taylor Greene, and Matt Gaetz have taken the GOP in an extreme direction, so it’s easy to want to dismiss conservative thinking as a whole. But having a rigid “us vs. them” mentality is never useful, considering we need to actually hear each other out in order to engage in the governing process.
Often times, if someone agrees even slightly with the “other side,” people automatically think they’re betraying their community. Feeling like an outcast can be hard, especially when you’re trying to fit in to a new group of friends. It might feel like the best thing to do is just stay quiet, so you don’t make yourself a target, but you probably know from previous experience that hiding in the closet is never a recipe for success.
Instead, I’d try to gravitate towards the friends who you know are going to listen and respect you, even if they don’t 100% agree. True friends should be mature enough to at least hear what you have to say. Sure, if it’s a “Republican pile-on”, that may not be the best time to pick your battle, but you may find opportunities for healthy conversations in smaller groups, or in one-on-one conversations.
At the end of the day, politics can be a heated and tricky subject to navigate, but more-evolved peers should be able to hear you out, without immediately rejecting you or making you feel isolated. And if the group pile-ons get uncomfortable, it’s certainly your right to remove yourself.
If that doesn’t work, you can always pivot the conversation to something else just as controversial, but slightly less charged, RuPaul’s Drag Race. 🙂 Republican or Democrat, we all know who should have won this week’s lip sync!
Ask Jake is our advice column by Queerty editor and Licensed Marriage & Family Therapist Jake Myers. If you have a question for Jake, please email [email protected] for consideration.
ShaverC
“Moderate gay Republican”? Can such a creature actually be real?
abfab
There’s you shaver so all bets are off.
dbmcvey
Well shaves, you’re definitely a conservative Republican so you’re not an example.
RIGay
I feel nothing for any Republican; regardless of sexual orientation. Granted there are a handful of true moderate Republicans; Bill Weld and Charlie Baker come to mind, but that’s about it. The rest are just in it for the grift. The GOP is only in it to grab money at the expense of low and middle income citizens; they don’t care who they hurt to do it.
dbmcvey
Republicans are all MAGA now, so Weld and Baker aren’t welcome in the party.
DHT
Bill Weld left the Republican party and became an Independant a long time ago.
Kangol2
I think this is a good and fair response. If the person is more fiscally conservative (though the GOP isn’t), they can gently insert this in the conversation, but also note points of agreement. There also might be more Republican-leaning, non-MAGA gay people out there where this person lives. Perhaps volunteering for a gay organization in the area might access to some moderate Republicans. In more than 25 years of working with LGBTQ organizations actually doing the work (HIV prevent, Prides, legal advocacy, Black LGBTQ issues, etc.), I’ve met very few self-described conservatives. Moderate Republicans (who at least used to be fairly to very socially liberal), yes. Conservative Republicans, not so much. Far-right Republicans and ultraconservatives, never.
My2CentsWorth
True. There is less and less room for moderate in the Republican Party.
JClark
I have the same reaction when anyone tells me they’re a gay Republican or a gay Catholic. I wonder how they can be associated with an organization that officially(!) doesn’t believe your rights are equal to others. I understand there are other beliefs of those organizations that may be appealing, but I don’t want to be part of any organization that rejects such an essential component of my being. But I’m open to listening to anyone and trying to understand their motivations and maybe even being their friend.
abfab
What should you do? Well, any number of things but start by asking BaronSpeechWiseWarman and George Santos. They are both very moderate and seem to be doing fine in lfe. Start there and good luck to you.
wikidBSTN
What should you do? Become a conservative Democrat.
How can you belong to party that is so virulently anti-gay? As for the MAGA part of the GOP – it’s no longer just “a part” – it is pretty close to the entire party. That IS the reality right now.
Dr.Knowze
My thoughts exactly.
My2CentsWorth
The Republican Party has been taken over by bad people whom I find it hard to believe that any moderate person can support.
m
“am NOT a MAGA Republican and am appalled by that faction of my party”
Keyword was “my” in that sentence.
You vote republican, you can FOAD.
abfab
Or call this most respescted moderate we have. She’d love you!
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene urged Americans to ‘repent’ after a 4.8 magnetite earthquake hit in New Jersey Friday morning.
The seismic event was felt by people from Philadelphia through New York City and even Boston.
‘God is sending America strong signs to tell us to repent. Earthquakes and eclipses and many more things to come,’ she wrote on X. ‘I pray that our country listens.’
still_onthemark
Baron and MTG are MAGAts, not moderates!
radiooutmike
I find this question very difficult, because the OP does not seem be willing to accept what the monoculture of Republicans want for our community.
He could say he is just a fiscal conservative, just a social conservative or both even. The issue he’ll have is trying to parse out what that actually means to his more left-leaning friends.
Does he think gay marriage is valid? What does he think about the loss of safe spaces physically, socially and media for our community? You can’t say you’re not a MAGA Republican. What does that mean?
That you want a stronger national defense than a Democrat, but are willing to have your own rights eroded to get it? Does it mean you just won’t for any MAGA types? Would you vote Democrat ever?
He probably does not want any self-examination. Maybe he thinks he’ll never need those rights? Maybe he has enough resources (wealth), that loss of those rights won’t mean anything.
Being a Republican now and being gay (or LGBTQ+) means you can’t hide anymore. You either are with the loonies or not. You either make your party inclusive or not. And if you don’t, you are just a self-hater.
Why does not he ask conservative women of child-bearing age if they like their healthcare options being limited?
This is America, he can vote for whomever he chooses or not vote all. But if you think these things don’t matter; you must be living a life of privilege or a very small life indeed.
Fahd
Consider giving up the backward and outdated notion that one can have an integrated identity as a “moderate gay Republican”. The party of Tr*mp has decided there is no room in the party for “moderates” — consider what Mitt Romney, the “Massachusetts moderate” has gone through in the last years, and he’s not even gay.
Making friends under false pretenses is not a good idea. Instead, spend some time asking yourself why you want to identify with people who hate you and want to deny your existence because of something as basic about you as your sexuality. Is it a legacy from your family? Did you grow up on a country club/golf course in the suburbs? Are you attracted to their extremism as it applies to non-LGBTQ minorities? Maybe look at that. Do you hold the mistaken belief that you’ll pay fewer taxes if the Republicans are in power (ask Californians about what the Tr*mp administration did for them in that regard). You can overcome these backward tendencies through thoughtful self-examination.
This is about coming to terms with yourself. If you can’t change don’t deceive your friends and look for friends among gay Republicans (but as far as I know, no one likes them).
My2CentsWorth
They just don’t want to deny his existence. They want to destroy it. The only way to be a decent person and be a Republican now is to be 100% committed to fighting to change the party and not accept what it has become. That would mean fighting the leaders AND not ever supporting any of them.
The Dixicrats fled the Democratic Party and took over the Republican Party. If they prevail moderates, the Tim Scotts and Mark Robinsons of the party will be forced out unless they are willing to be like the self haters Log Cabin Republicans who who are so committed to being Republicans even if the only acceptances if their donations to the party.
metta
Live your truth. Personally, I don’t think that moderate Republicans (neoconservative) are any worse than moderate Democrats (neoliberal). They both often like to call themselves centrists. They both support corporate power over people. I would rather people just be honest. I have no problem saying that I’m progressive.
bachy
I can sympathize with this letter-writer. At the moment, there is so much political extremism at play that it is difficult to find a compromising balance that might unify our collective political identity as Americans – an identity I consider more essential, more important than full, unquestioned endorsement of Qanon-stormer, anti-vaxer or transtrender movements.
Although I am a Democrat and vote straight democratic, I find it difficult to express even the mildest conservative perceptions without being shouted down.
still_onthemark
Same here. I’m a liberal Democrat and it’s getting depressing how many so-called “progressives” would rather try to out-virtue-signal each other than accomplish anything politically in the real world.
And thank you for the word “transtrender”! Never heard that one, even from Blaire White.
MountainGate
Heck, I’m old enough to remember when there were lots of gay conservatives. I’d go to Log Cabin Republican meetings in Chicago in the 90s because I thought the guys were hot. Now that group has all but died out as the Republican Party has become more extreme. There are still lots of fiscally-conservative LGBT people, especially out here in Palm Springs. Most of us no longer identify as Republican, though. It’s a sad and scary situation to see our country so divided, because if things really fall apart it may not end well for us. Most people don’t know that the first modern LGBT rights movement emerged in Germany, not long before Hitler’s rise to power. A few survived by going deeply into the closet, but most of them were murdered by the end of WW2.
My2CentsWorth
“.. if things really fall apart..” will likely be more accurate as “…. AFTER things really fall apart..” and it will be bad for everyone.
bachy
Is anyone else having trouble commenting on some of these articles?
Despite combing through my text for hidden, forbidden words, I keep getting notified that Your comment is awaiting moderation.
still_onthemark
Yeah, that was happening a lot earlier today, maybe it was the earthquake!
dman
This happens ever single time I leave a comment on Queerty. .. and they never get moderated. I’ve left two comments to this story and both are marked with “your comment is awaiting moderation.” I don’t know if Queerty staff is deliberately singling people out because they made a comment at one time they didn’t like, or if this is a glitch… but it’s been going on for months now and the staff do nothing whatsoever to fix it.
abfab
decrazytrans hacked into the system.
KyleMichelSullivan
I don’t understand what you mean by “conservative Republican.” You support a party that wants to hurt you as well as the LGBTQ+ community, which strikes me as self-destructive. I don’t want anyone like that around me.
dman
Not much sympathy here. As long as “politicians” like Trump, MTG, Graham, Boebert and several others in the GOP continue to make extreme comments and pass extreme measures, this person can expect “extreme responses” from Democrats. They’re offensive, spiteful people, and if he’s going to classify himself as a “moderate Republican,” he needs to take responsibility for those leading the pack.
Chrisk
“I also don’t agree with a lot of what they say, especially when they call all Republicans hateful, selfish, racist, homophobic, uneducated, etc.”
Funny that that’s all I see with today’s Republican Party. The actual moderates were already driven out.
If your friends are sane then you should stay in the closet. I’ve kicked so many friends and family to the curb over this.
Openminded
Just about all the commenters above prove the OP’s statements. The Republican party is not omnicultural. Not all Republicans hate the LGBTQ community. Yes, way way too many Republicans have drank a bit too much of the Trump cool-aid, but there’s also more than a few Dems who believe everything people like AOC and Pelosi spew, which is equally as wrong. Politics right now suck, on both sides.
From what you all are stating, ALL Gays are or should be Democrats. Yet you wonder why your claim that ALL Republicans are against Gays, could be true. By your very own declaration, GAYs are or should be an enemy of the Republican party. Being Gay and being Republican are two totally different characteristics of a person and you can be either one or both and still be a decent person.
Moderate Republicans still exists. We are pretty much silenced right now due to the lunatic far right MAGA nuts and equally by the general Democrat hate for anyone that dare not be on their party wagon and support their policies.
As an American, I have the right to my own political stance, it has nothing to do with my sexual identity. Being an actual moderate Republican doesn’t mean I have to support every Republican talking point. I can be against monetary giveaways that support people’s bad habits or clear up people’s financial obligations simply because they are tired of trying to pay them off. I can equally be against telling women what they can and can’t do with their body or passing laws that target people just because they are different or live different than me.
Bromancer7
But that’s the republican party now. Hurting LGBTQ+, PoC, and destroying the economy by funneling as much money as possible to the rich is the entirety of the the republican platform. This is clearly evident by the way they all vote in lock stop with this agenda.
Your personal beliefs are irrelevant when you vote for these people, because they don’t share it. Keep this is mind in November. Not that any of this will matter, you’ll vote for them anyway.
OzJay
Don’t ask people to respect your beliefs when you’re prepared to vote against your own self-interest – eg for a party committed to rolling back LBBT rights. There’s no cause for respect there – only pity and derision.
Chrisk
Of course you come in here with your downplaying and what about isms. As Bromancer says. The Republican party platform is in goosestep agreement and your personal feelings don’t mean sh*t. If you truly believed in women having rights to their own body and the LGBTQ community you’d do the right thing and vote Democrat but ya can’t. All because some college students might get some help.
You’re so predictable.
Apolodorus
You are choosing to align with a party that has a white supremacist as a leader because you agree the party on some things. Which means that the homophobia, xenophobia and white supremacy are not dealbreakers for you. So go kick rocks.
abfab
@open
You just don’t get it.
dbmcvey
“Moderate Republicans” are being kicked out of the party. Only MAGAs are Republicans now. Even conservatives like Lynn Cheney and Mitt Romney are being kicked out.
Moderate Republicans don’t exist.
Also we have a binary choice here. There is only Trump or Biden, and one (Trump) will do nothing to help us even if he doesn’t care about our rights.
FreddieW
Jake sounds too reasonable for this website. Or at least for the comments section of this website. Nicely surprised.
abfab
You’re a big part of this comment section.
Bonerboy
Long before Donald Trump, long before MAGA, the basic tenet of the Republican Party was to cut taxes. They believe (d) taxation was theft. No matter how much money they had, how dare they be requested to provide the rest of the country with the funds to better people’s lives, infrastructure, hunger. They would rather “donate” than have their money “taken” from them. You know, so they could approve where and what type of people their money was going toward. The Republicans were the rich and those who worshiped the rich, using racist, homophobic and sexist scare tactics to gain power to keep away a “socialist” agenda without ever recognizing that the profits, the riches, the billions were MADE OFF THE BACKS OF THE POOR. Republicans have always been evil. Evil has never been moderate.
Chrisk
I agree and that’s why I cringe when I hear people say it’s not like that anymore. It always was. They seduced the Christian loons and the Nazi’s to join them for power and got replaced by something far more sinister and that is the Republican Party today.
abfab
We can thank that wench….Ayn Rand, for her ”theory” and the homophobia.
nobjockey
I’m not ‘murican but, doesn’t the democratic party have a right wing branch of some kind? Something like fiscally conservative but socially liberal? That way you could cover almost all your bases and stay on safe ground.