A former Navy chaplain found himself in over his head this week when he went on an online talk show and declared he could exorcise homosexuality out of anyone who was willing—including leading gay activist Wayne Besen.

Gordon Klingenschmitt, founder of The Pray In Jesus Name Project, made his claim on Tuesday’s episode of The David Pakman Show, where he revealed he once “healed” a lesbian of her wanton ways.

Fortunately Truth Wins Out‘s Wayne Besen was there to drop some knowledge, telling the reverend that gay people “are fine just the way they are.”

He added that those who turn to snake-oil salesmen like Klingenschmitt “come to me afterwards to pick up the pieces of their shattered lives.”

Pakman, who leans left, asked Klingenschmitt if he could “cure” someone like Besen, to which the faith healer said, “Wayne would have to repent and he would have to consent… It’s an act of his free will to contract with the devil, and it can also be an act of his free will to renounce the devil.”

This isn’t Klingenschmitt’s first foray into batshit crazy homophobia: He previous told Pakman that allowing gays to serve openly in the Armed Forces would lead to the draft being reinstated because of a “mass exodus of Christians leaving the military.” More recently, Klingenschmitt, claimed LGBT people secrete evil spirits that infect animals.

And the countdown to Reverend Klingenschmitt being spotted at the local cruising grounds starts…. now.

UPDATE:  Though Klingenschmitt was court-martialed in 2006 for disobeying orders, his discharge from the Navy was categorized as honorable.

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