Attorney-turned-podcaster Rudy Giuliani has raised eyebrows on social media. And it’s not for his latest conspiracy theories or praise for Donald Trump.
In a video he posted on the eve of Thanksgiving, Giuliani placed himself in front of a TV screen playing footage of a traditional wood fireplace. Presumably unintentionally, the flames appear to licking the top of his head.
Political commentator Ron Filipkowski reposted a clip of the video. He highlighted Giuliani defending Fox News. Fox, like others on the right, was quick to blame a car explosion at a checkpoint at Rainbow Bridge, Niagra Falls, on a terrorist attack. However, authorities found no explosives in the vehicle and now believe it was a tragic accident.
According to Giuliani, Fox did the right thing jumping to the assumption of terrorism… just in case it was terrorism. Or some such nonsense.
Watch below.
Rudy says it’s a good thing that Fox lied and said the car crash near the border was a terrorist loaded with explosives, because you can never be too careful. pic.twitter.com/DBjVrVgvPD
It’s unknown how Giuliani celebrated Thanksgiving (shooting Cameo vidoes, perhaps) but it’s likely it was a little more frugal than in previous years. The former mayor of New York City face a range of legal woes, much of which relates to his time spent as Donald Trump’s attorney and advisor.
In July, during a court hearing, a lawyer for Giuliani revealed he was “close to broke.”
“There are a lot of bills that he’s not paying,” Adam Katz added. “From a $57,000 phone bill to significantly more.”
This week, it emerged he is being sued by a law firm over a $10,000 debt. Giuliani apparently hired the firm to help him settle his last divorce. The firm, BST & Co, was hired in 2018 to undertake a valuation of Giuliani’s estate. BST filed the lawsuit on Monday. It is seeking $15,000 in legal fees on top of the $10,000 owed.
Trump is stiffing Giuliani and refusing to cover his mounting legal bills, reports the New York Times.
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It’s depressing what Rudy has deteriorated into. He was a very gay-friendly mayor, maybe the most gay-friendly Republican around in the ’90s including actual gay Republicans.
When his second wife Donna Hanover filed for divorce, she kicked him out of Gracie Mansion (wtf – the taxpayers had no say, it’s a city-owned house specifically for the mayor, not a mayor’s ex-wife). Rudy moved into the home of a gay couple and by all accounts was a good roommate.
Also he loved dressing in drag and did it often back then. He even did drag as host of SNL at least twice (?).
Now he’s an alcoholic and worships the Orange Baphomet… sigh…
@abfab: I did have some “fun” in Times Sq. porn theaters, but technology was wiping them out anyway. By 2000 or so everyone had porn available at home. Porn theaters are one of those young-boomer things that went the way of the dodo. And I doubt anyone misses the pickpockets and 3-card-monte dealers.
I wasn’t trying to write a comprehensive history of his two terms, just the gay-positive parts and the drag, which maybe young folks now have never even heard about. Right before 9/11 he was not very popular, and he was ridiculed for his WAR ON FERRETS!
abfab
I know, but songs were written about Times Square. Lou Reed took his walks on the wild side there. THE ADONIS was there! MIDNIGHT COWBOY was filmed there.
It was dirty and seedy and rough and sexy and hot and then you got back on the bus at the Port Authority and the men still wAnted sex with you ON THE BUS!!!! And this place! Upon my first visit, that was it. I AM A GAY BOY AND LOVING IT!!! I was a repeat and satisfied customer.
The rest is history. I do feel for those who missed out, as you say. AND RUDY, seek professional help.
Gaiety Theatre (male burlesque)
From Wikipedia,
“Gaiety” and phone number, scribbled on torn paper found in East Village apartment 2016 (photo)
The Gaiety Theatre was a gay male burlesque theater in Times Square, New York City, for almost 30 years until it closed on March 17, 2005. The name on the awning over the entrance was Gaiety Theatre, but it was also called the Gaiety Male Burlesque or the Gaiety Male Theatre in advertisements. It was located at 201 W 46th Street, New York, NY 10036, on the second floor of the building that also housed what was the last Howard Johnson’s restaurant in New York City. The Gaiety opened in late 1975 and closed in 2005 and was owned by Denise Rozis, run by both her and her younger sister, Evridiki Rozis.
The building has been demolished but was owned by the Kenneth Rubinstein family (Rubenstein Klein Realty) for many years until it was sold to Jeff Sutton’s Wharton Acquisitions. The Howard Johnson’s restaurant closed later on July 8, 2005, at midnight, after having been open for 46 years.
This theatre was not the same Gaiety Theatre that was across 46th Street at 1547 Broadway, which did house burlesque, including Minsky’s for a time during its long history (1908–82). That Gaiety is probably best remembered as the Victoria Cinema, but its final name was Embassy 5, before the building was demolished.
A New York Times article published on April 24, 2005, about the closing of the Gaiety referred to “ … the lore that set the Gaiety apart from other clubs: the mainstream attention it attracted after photos of Madonna and some of the club’s dancers were included in her book Sex (1992). The cachet of visitors like John Waters, Andy Warhol, and Shirley MacLaine, and the club’s unrivaled ability to survive, despite the strict zoning laws instituted during the Giuliani administration, thanks to a location just outside a restricted area.”
Blogger Andy Towle said: “The Gaiety opened its doors on a winter night in 1976 and consistently attracted an interesting mix of young hustlers, businessmen, tourists, and celebrities on the DL to its pleasantly dingy, boxy room with its small stage and sparkling curtain.”
The Gaiety survived Mayor Rudolph Giuliani’s intense drive to close adult related venues in the mid-1990s. Heavy security was instituted and no sexual activities of any kind were permitted in the theatre.
Ah yes. I remember going to Times Square back in the very early 60’s as a 12 and 13 year old. I’d take the bus and subway in to Manhattan from Fresh Meadows to do school work at the Donnell Library and the Main Library in Bryant Park. Then if I had time I’d go down to Times Square to look in the windows of the porn shops and watch the hustlers and prostitutes. All pretty amazing to an adolescent gay boy from Queens.
Now it is Disneyland NYC, without the rides.
Times Square in the 60s was before my time but I did get to see the Gaiety and a few of the other sites there in the late 1980s and 1990s, by which time it was already under transformation by racist (though gay-friendly, until the early 2000s) Ghouliani. He made it “family friendly,” which is to say, a straight tourist trap and hot spot for greedy developers. But then so many once exciting New York neighborhoods have undergone relentless gentrification and de-gayifcation, which really took off under Ghouliani and his successor, Mike Bloomberg.
Rudy has definitely gone to the dark side; but, I do need to explain that many don’t notice the fireplace behind him where the fire exists. Blind or stupid or just driven into crazy rants is NOT how we close the social gap between extremists on the right like Rudy and extremists nuts and misinformers on our side like abfab.
abfab needs to come back from the extremist edge and be open to listening and TRYING to understand that other people can and do have opinions. After all, he/she/it seems to post as if we demand their opinion.
We don’t. Anarchists like abfab who spread hate, division and misinformation are working AGAINST our community. Pretending that more hate will solve our problems is idiocyl
Who needs to pretend, Rambo. Others (republican right wing racist homophobic religious bigots) ”who spread hate, division and misinformation are working AGAINST our community”……..thoses aren’t OPINIONS. Who do you think you’re kidding? Stop being a wimp.
I won’t dignify or waste words with you regarding my ”pronouns”. You’re obsessed. And your HATE is palpable.
Have your opinions. Just please stick to the facts cupcake.
what a stupid as F comment. We already know EXACTLY where todays republican stand on gay rights and it is firmly against us having ANY rights. No this is how they got the public to believe their buillshit by tryin g to appear reasonable and open when they are neither. Ands we do NOT need to ask for our rights we need to DEMAND them as they are given to all AMERICANS not just the ones they approve of. NO NO NO F the maga HOMOPHOBIC ASSHOLES. IM not the unreasonable one here Im the voice of actual reason. they want us all dead or in the deepest darkest closet begging to be treated fairly no FKN way
Make no mistake people, Abfab/dbmcvey are highly psychopathic inciteful str8 Trans activists here to overtake LGB through vigorous negative input to all.
Nothing about Rs regarding Tactivists is false. This one they got right. These two back men in women’s showers, telling school children they can choose to be a boy or girl and that it is OK for bio males to steal awards in women’s sports among other disgusting acts.
These two are the scum new laws are preventing from living their psycho THEY THEM TNB lives they are trying to push on the general public.
The message here: push back and push back hard. They are destroying The LGB community. And they don’t care.
Let me repeat myself: “Pretending that more hate will solve our problems is idiocyl”
abfab, Barry, dbmcvey, fahd, are spreading hate like a house on fire. Time to recognize humanity, compassion and acceptance, kids. It’s how WE earned equality. Think before you hate – the hate is turning the public against all of us.
Guiliani’s head is melting in the dark
All the sweet, green icing flowing down
Someone left this fake out in the rain
I don’t think that I can take it
‘Cause it took so long to bake it
And I’ll never have that recipe again
Oh no!
It was after an afternoon at the Adonis that I sat in a coffee shop reading an article about 15 cases of a gay cancer in Europe. That and a disturbing letter from a Belgian I tricked with in Amsterdam struggling with illness after illness, led me and my partner to “close” our open relationship and move to an outer borough and renovate an old house .
This was actually during Koch’s term. Six months later, nearly all the friends we knew and loved were sick and dying.
Yes, the 70s were and the rampant sex everywhere was great fun, but the inevitable result wasn’t. I like to think I would’ve behaved differently if I could’ve prevented all that suffering and loss, but I’d be a hypocrite. It’s easy for an old man to say.
“Yes, the 70s were and the rampant sex everywhere was great fun, but the inevitable result wasn’t.”
Ah yes, the superstitious claptrap of the evangelicals. “The wages of sin are death, and all that bullshit! Stow it, inbama. HIV was in no way inevitable except in the minds of people who have internalized the idiocy that it was God’s punishment for fags. I lost most of my friends, but managed to stay HIV negative. But NEVER did I fall for the bullshit that it was inevitable or a punishment, or the necessary result of physical pleasure seen as sinful by the right (and obviously by the likes of you). It was like covid, an animal disease that made the opportunistic jump and simmered in the population for many years before evolving to spread more easily. And being as it spread among people the powerful care little for (Africans, I.V. drug users and gay men), nothing was done to research it or control it until way too late.
Yes, the 70s were and the rampant sex everywhere was great fun, but the inevitable result wasn’t. ;;
HELLO ANITA BRYANT. Keep your guilt trips to yourself, INBAMA. We can tell you’re trying, but you keep crapping on the message with your mother superior bullshit. Don’t bring the dead into your rhetoric. It’s cheap.
Inbama, I share your thoughts. Our promiscuity, which was liberating and fun, bit us as a community. That’s reality. Could happen again with a new disease. I shudder to think.
Abfab,
I never said anything about going to hell. And if AIDS was God’s judgment, he almost totally missed lesbians.
All I was talking about was the standard safe-sex advice of reducing your number of partners and using protection.
So hey, if you want to keep bottoming for homeless guys in the Port Authority restroom, be my guest. These are hard times, and I’m sure they appreciate the tips.
Be nice. Everyone knows these same few haters are nothing but haters. They only contribute to division, fear and misery. The clue is the bitterness and unnecessary insults, Be kind and offer them a way forward… they have special needs.
Now, now, inbama, let’s not trash homeless/unhoused men in order to make a snarky point against abfab. Also, if you ever read some of the work of genius Samuel R. Delany, you’ll see that homeless/unhoused men–“homeless guys”–have a lot more going on than you think they do.
And Ronbo, for someone who loves to perform a Pollyanna act and urge others to “be nice,” are you really on this site making fun of people who truly have “special needs”? That was really gratuitous, dismissive, cruel and beneath you–at least the august level you love to present yourself as operating from. Get it together, sis!
She made it clear she missed the degeneracy of the Old Times Square (for any young ones, it was beautifully captured in HBO’s “The Deuce,” BTW), and I was somehow being “Anita Bryant” for believing that a disease spread through exchange of bodily fluids had anything to do with sex, so she’s fair game.
I don’t care if her brain dysfunction comes from untreated tertiary syphilis, I am out of empathy for her and her demented sock puppets spreading dangerous disinformation and calling names. One lost generation of gay men was enough.
I’m not so arrogant as to compare myself to Larry Kramer, a true gay hero who founded the Gay Men’s Health Crisis and Act Up. Not only did he stand up to Reagan’s do-nothing government but he had to take on science-denying queens like you and abfab who condemned any measure aimed at modifying dangerous behavior as selling out the movement.
So our resident haters object when I ask inbama to “Be nice”. Wow, are they caught up in the fire of hate.
Abfab’s alter Kangol2 can’t argue logic or facts. so they resort to tRump-style demands for censorship, extremism and opposition to beng “nice”.. They even acknowledge that hate and division is their M.O.?!? Yet, it’s failed by all accounts.
Stop the hate and focus instead on winning hearts and minds. Their childish and immature pageant of hate can’t continue unless they can create more extremists who oppose compassion, acceptance and personal growth.
Our community can’t survive on hate. I remember when we won hearts and minds with the simple thought that “hate is not a family value”
Extremism from abfab, dbmcvey, Fahd and Kangol2 tirgger good people to run from this site. At the same time, they also attract extremists by driving fear and hate. That is so much like tRump and Rudy that it is shocking!
We won much equality with compassion, understanding and acceptance. Please stop the hate; it’s turning good people away and organizing dangerous hate – both for and against us.
The Southern Poverty Law Center asks all people to lower their rhetoric of hate and violence. Pay attention and be part of the solution.
The Southern Poverty Law Center asks all people to lower their rhetoric of hate and violence. Pay attention and be part of the solution – not the problem.
Edmund Burke wrote, “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men should do nothing.” This thought-provoking quote emphasizes the responsibility of individuals to take action against injustice and wrongdoing.” Speak up to spread justice, not hate.
The hateful extremism from abfab, dbmcvey, Fahd and Kangol2 tirgger good people to run from this site. I’ve had friends and family stop supporting us because they come here and reject the extremist LGBTQ individuals.
Psychology Today did a story about “extremism” and identifies these individual warning traits of those caught up in in (including both the left and right)
“Societal risk factors (e.g., real intergroup conflicts, intergroup threats, the prevalence of ideologies legitimizing violence)
Social risk factors (e.g., violence in the home, the experience of group discrimination, minimal social diversity)
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still_onthemark
It’s depressing what Rudy has deteriorated into. He was a very gay-friendly mayor, maybe the most gay-friendly Republican around in the ’90s including actual gay Republicans.
When his second wife Donna Hanover filed for divorce, she kicked him out of Gracie Mansion (wtf – the taxpayers had no say, it’s a city-owned house specifically for the mayor, not a mayor’s ex-wife). Rudy moved into the home of a gay couple and by all accounts was a good roommate.
Also he loved dressing in drag and did it often back then. He even did drag as host of SNL at least twice (?).
Now he’s an alcoholic and worships the Orange Baphomet… sigh…
abfab
He fu cked with TIMES SQUARE. Most of us know what I’m talking about. That was the HEART of NYC. A huge draw and filled with dangerous fun.
May his chair fall backwards and this empty head burst into flames. All that makeup is very flammable.
still_onthemark
@abfab: I did have some “fun” in Times Sq. porn theaters, but technology was wiping them out anyway. By 2000 or so everyone had porn available at home. Porn theaters are one of those young-boomer things that went the way of the dodo. And I doubt anyone misses the pickpockets and 3-card-monte dealers.
I wasn’t trying to write a comprehensive history of his two terms, just the gay-positive parts and the drag, which maybe young folks now have never even heard about. Right before 9/11 he was not very popular, and he was ridiculed for his WAR ON FERRETS!
abfab
abfab
I know, but songs were written about Times Square. Lou Reed took his walks on the wild side there. THE ADONIS was there! MIDNIGHT COWBOY was filmed there.
It was dirty and seedy and rough and sexy and hot and then you got back on the bus at the Port Authority and the men still wAnted sex with you ON THE BUS!!!! And this place! Upon my first visit, that was it. I AM A GAY BOY AND LOVING IT!!! I was a repeat and satisfied customer.
The rest is history. I do feel for those who missed out, as you say. AND RUDY, seek professional help.
Gaiety Theatre (male burlesque)
From Wikipedia,
“Gaiety” and phone number, scribbled on torn paper found in East Village apartment 2016 (photo)
The Gaiety Theatre was a gay male burlesque theater in Times Square, New York City, for almost 30 years until it closed on March 17, 2005. The name on the awning over the entrance was Gaiety Theatre, but it was also called the Gaiety Male Burlesque or the Gaiety Male Theatre in advertisements. It was located at 201 W 46th Street, New York, NY 10036, on the second floor of the building that also housed what was the last Howard Johnson’s restaurant in New York City. The Gaiety opened in late 1975 and closed in 2005 and was owned by Denise Rozis, run by both her and her younger sister, Evridiki Rozis.
The building has been demolished but was owned by the Kenneth Rubinstein family (Rubenstein Klein Realty) for many years until it was sold to Jeff Sutton’s Wharton Acquisitions. The Howard Johnson’s restaurant closed later on July 8, 2005, at midnight, after having been open for 46 years.
This theatre was not the same Gaiety Theatre that was across 46th Street at 1547 Broadway, which did house burlesque, including Minsky’s for a time during its long history (1908–82). That Gaiety is probably best remembered as the Victoria Cinema, but its final name was Embassy 5, before the building was demolished.
A New York Times article published on April 24, 2005, about the closing of the Gaiety referred to “ … the lore that set the Gaiety apart from other clubs: the mainstream attention it attracted after photos of Madonna and some of the club’s dancers were included in her book Sex (1992). The cachet of visitors like John Waters, Andy Warhol, and Shirley MacLaine, and the club’s unrivaled ability to survive, despite the strict zoning laws instituted during the Giuliani administration, thanks to a location just outside a restricted area.”
Blogger Andy Towle said: “The Gaiety opened its doors on a winter night in 1976 and consistently attracted an interesting mix of young hustlers, businessmen, tourists, and celebrities on the DL to its pleasantly dingy, boxy room with its small stage and sparkling curtain.”
The Gaiety survived Mayor Rudolph Giuliani’s intense drive to close adult related venues in the mid-1990s. Heavy security was instituted and no sexual activities of any kind were permitted in the theatre.
Den
Ah yes. I remember going to Times Square back in the very early 60’s as a 12 and 13 year old. I’d take the bus and subway in to Manhattan from Fresh Meadows to do school work at the Donnell Library and the Main Library in Bryant Park. Then if I had time I’d go down to Times Square to look in the windows of the porn shops and watch the hustlers and prostitutes. All pretty amazing to an adolescent gay boy from Queens.
Now it is Disneyland NYC, without the rides.
abfab
Lovely memories, Den. It was thrilling, NYC.
Kangol2
Times Square in the 60s was before my time but I did get to see the Gaiety and a few of the other sites there in the late 1980s and 1990s, by which time it was already under transformation by racist (though gay-friendly, until the early 2000s) Ghouliani. He made it “family friendly,” which is to say, a straight tourist trap and hot spot for greedy developers. But then so many once exciting New York neighborhoods have undergone relentless gentrification and de-gayifcation, which really took off under Ghouliani and his successor, Mike Bloomberg.
Startrax99
The flames look like horns from his head.
abfab
That is too funny.
Watched muted, as I do with all Republican men…..and women. Looking at them is bad enough. They have nothing to say. Deranged beyond belief.
Ronbo
Rudy has definitely gone to the dark side; but, I do need to explain that many don’t notice the fireplace behind him where the fire exists. Blind or stupid or just driven into crazy rants is NOT how we close the social gap between extremists on the right like Rudy and extremists nuts and misinformers on our side like abfab.
abfab needs to come back from the extremist edge and be open to listening and TRYING to understand that other people can and do have opinions. After all, he/she/it seems to post as if we demand their opinion.
We don’t. Anarchists like abfab who spread hate, division and misinformation are working AGAINST our community. Pretending that more hate will solve our problems is idiocyl
abfab
Who needs to pretend, Rambo. Others (republican right wing racist homophobic religious bigots) ”who spread hate, division and misinformation are working AGAINST our community”……..thoses aren’t OPINIONS. Who do you think you’re kidding? Stop being a wimp.
I won’t dignify or waste words with you regarding my ”pronouns”. You’re obsessed. And your HATE is palpable.
Have your opinions. Just please stick to the facts cupcake.
abfab
Many don’t notice the fireplace? Oh dear, you really are, ummmm, funny. He’s got the yule log on his big screen. How quaint.
barryaksarben
what a stupid as F comment. We already know EXACTLY where todays republican stand on gay rights and it is firmly against us having ANY rights. No this is how they got the public to believe their buillshit by tryin g to appear reasonable and open when they are neither. Ands we do NOT need to ask for our rights we need to DEMAND them as they are given to all AMERICANS not just the ones they approve of. NO NO NO F the maga HOMOPHOBIC ASSHOLES. IM not the unreasonable one here Im the voice of actual reason. they want us all dead or in the deepest darkest closet begging to be treated fairly no FKN way
dbmcvey
Ronbo is deranged.
Diplomat
Make no mistake people, Abfab/dbmcvey are highly psychopathic inciteful str8 Trans activists here to overtake LGB through vigorous negative input to all.
Nothing about Rs regarding Tactivists is false. This one they got right. These two back men in women’s showers, telling school children they can choose to be a boy or girl and that it is OK for bio males to steal awards in women’s sports among other disgusting acts.
These two are the scum new laws are preventing from living their psycho THEY THEM TNB lives they are trying to push on the general public.
The message here: push back and push back hard. They are destroying The LGB community. And they don’t care.
abfab
Dippo Call 911 if you can make it to your phone.
Fahd
Ronbo = Russian troll who hasn’t been paid a Ruble since the Russians invaded Ukraine. Sad!
dbmcvey
Oh look! Diplo is here to be super antii-lbgt while pretending he’s one of us.
Typical!
Ronbo
Let me repeat myself: “Pretending that more hate will solve our problems is idiocyl”
abfab, Barry, dbmcvey, fahd, are spreading hate like a house on fire. Time to recognize humanity, compassion and acceptance, kids. It’s how WE earned equality. Think before you hate – the hate is turning the public against all of us.
abfab
Rambo. Hush up, you annoying hypocritical lunatic. Take a course in Anarchy. It will reveal how under educated you are.
Diplomat
Their goal is to spread hate and division to supplant their agenda. Ab and Db make Rs look like muthah Teresa.
abfab
I love that word agenda. Shove it.
dbmcvey
Diplo; the transphobe who pretends he’s a progressive.
abfab
And don’t you just love his little Italian flag that he is waving? He’s about as Italian as Corned Beef and Cabbage.
MSM
I can’t believe all you commenters missed the perfect post
” THIS GURL IS ON FIRE”
”THIS GURL IS ON FIRE”
OR
BURN RUDY BURN…CRISCO INFERNO….BURN BABY BURN
abfab
Guiliani’s head is melting in the dark
All the sweet, green icing flowing down
Someone left this fake out in the rain
I don’t think that I can take it
‘Cause it took so long to bake it
And I’ll never have that recipe again
Oh no!
Pietro D
Poor Rudy! He is so pathetic AND deserves everything that is presently coming his way!
Talk about a life going downhill!
abfab
He’s way over the downhill……….and off the cliff. Where have you been?
Cam
Rudy is a typical Republican.
Kangol2
He truly is! Vomitacious!
abfab
He’s in top level meetings with Guitar George.
inbama
It was after an afternoon at the Adonis that I sat in a coffee shop reading an article about 15 cases of a gay cancer in Europe. That and a disturbing letter from a Belgian I tricked with in Amsterdam struggling with illness after illness, led me and my partner to “close” our open relationship and move to an outer borough and renovate an old house .
This was actually during Koch’s term. Six months later, nearly all the friends we knew and loved were sick and dying.
Yes, the 70s were and the rampant sex everywhere was great fun, but the inevitable result wasn’t. I like to think I would’ve behaved differently if I could’ve prevented all that suffering and loss, but I’d be a hypocrite. It’s easy for an old man to say.
abfab
I like to think I would’ve behaved differently if I could’ve prevented all that suffering and loss, but I’d be a hypocrite.”
What? What ever you’re trying to say…hey, start now.
dbmcvey
Oh. look! ibama is pretending to be gay!
Den
“Yes, the 70s were and the rampant sex everywhere was great fun, but the inevitable result wasn’t.”
Ah yes, the superstitious claptrap of the evangelicals. “The wages of sin are death, and all that bullshit! Stow it, inbama. HIV was in no way inevitable except in the minds of people who have internalized the idiocy that it was God’s punishment for fags. I lost most of my friends, but managed to stay HIV negative. But NEVER did I fall for the bullshit that it was inevitable or a punishment, or the necessary result of physical pleasure seen as sinful by the right (and obviously by the likes of you). It was like covid, an animal disease that made the opportunistic jump and simmered in the population for many years before evolving to spread more easily. And being as it spread among people the powerful care little for (Africans, I.V. drug users and gay men), nothing was done to research it or control it until way too late.
abfab
Yes, the 70s were and the rampant sex everywhere was great fun, but the inevitable result wasn’t. ;;
HELLO ANITA BRYANT. Keep your guilt trips to yourself, INBAMA. We can tell you’re trying, but you keep crapping on the message with your mother superior bullshit. Don’t bring the dead into your rhetoric. It’s cheap.
Renovate your brain.
LumpyPillows
Inbama, I share your thoughts. Our promiscuity, which was liberating and fun, bit us as a community. That’s reality. Could happen again with a new disease. I shudder to think.
Fahd
A foreshadowing of his upcoming Eternity spent burning in the fires of Hell.
abfab
He really is super gross. But he’s still the MAGA kind of guy.
abfab
And a few thought it was an actual fireplace….WITH REAL PUMPKINS!
inbama
Abfab,
I never said anything about going to hell. And if AIDS was God’s judgment, he almost totally missed lesbians.
All I was talking about was the standard safe-sex advice of reducing your number of partners and using protection.
So hey, if you want to keep bottoming for homeless guys in the Port Authority restroom, be my guest. These are hard times, and I’m sure they appreciate the tips.
Ronbo
Be nice. Everyone knows these same few haters are nothing but haters. They only contribute to division, fear and misery. The clue is the bitterness and unnecessary insults, Be kind and offer them a way forward… they have special needs.
abfab
Almost totally missed Lesbians. Hey kids……let’s try to unpack that stupid statement…….
abfab
Ronbo. Continue to expect pushback. Critics of your bigotry are not haters. We’re just calling you out on your shit.
Kangol2
Now, now, inbama, let’s not trash homeless/unhoused men in order to make a snarky point against abfab. Also, if you ever read some of the work of genius Samuel R. Delany, you’ll see that homeless/unhoused men–“homeless guys”–have a lot more going on than you think they do.
Kangol2
And Ronbo, for someone who loves to perform a Pollyanna act and urge others to “be nice,” are you really on this site making fun of people who truly have “special needs”? That was really gratuitous, dismissive, cruel and beneath you–at least the august level you love to present yourself as operating from. Get it together, sis!
inbama
@Ronbo
She made it clear she missed the degeneracy of the Old Times Square (for any young ones, it was beautifully captured in HBO’s “The Deuce,” BTW), and I was somehow being “Anita Bryant” for believing that a disease spread through exchange of bodily fluids had anything to do with sex, so she’s fair game.
I don’t care if her brain dysfunction comes from untreated tertiary syphilis, I am out of empathy for her and her demented sock puppets spreading dangerous disinformation and calling names. One lost generation of gay men was enough.
dbmcvey
Look! inbama is pretending he was Larry Kramer!
inbama
@dbmcvey
I’m not so arrogant as to compare myself to Larry Kramer, a true gay hero who founded the Gay Men’s Health Crisis and Act Up. Not only did he stand up to Reagan’s do-nothing government but he had to take on science-denying queens like you and abfab who condemned any measure aimed at modifying dangerous behavior as selling out the movement.
Ronbo
So our resident haters object when I ask inbama to “Be nice”. Wow, are they caught up in the fire of hate.
Abfab’s alter Kangol2 can’t argue logic or facts. so they resort to tRump-style demands for censorship, extremism and opposition to beng “nice”.. They even acknowledge that hate and division is their M.O.?!? Yet, it’s failed by all accounts.
Stop the hate and focus instead on winning hearts and minds. Their childish and immature pageant of hate can’t continue unless they can create more extremists who oppose compassion, acceptance and personal growth.
Our community can’t survive on hate. I remember when we won hearts and minds with the simple thought that “hate is not a family value”
Ronbo
Extremism from abfab, dbmcvey, Fahd and Kangol2 tirgger good people to run from this site. At the same time, they also attract extremists by driving fear and hate. That is so much like tRump and Rudy that it is shocking!
We won much equality with compassion, understanding and acceptance. Please stop the hate; it’s turning good people away and organizing dangerous hate – both for and against us.
The Southern Poverty Law Center asks all people to lower their rhetoric of hate and violence. Pay attention and be part of the solution.
abfab
”Extremism from abfab, dbmcvey, Fahd and Kangol2 tirgger good people to run from this site.” says Saint Ronbo
Sure, Jan. There is still time you know, for you to run away. Make your convoluted theory come true! Run from this site. You’re such a ”good people”.
Extremism. You’re a piece of work, Mary.
LumpyPillows
I wish you guys could actually just discuss without being total kunts.
Ronbo
The Southern Poverty Law Center asks all people to lower their rhetoric of hate and violence. Pay attention and be part of the solution – not the problem.
Edmund Burke wrote, “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men should do nothing.” This thought-provoking quote emphasizes the responsibility of individuals to take action against injustice and wrongdoing.” Speak up to spread justice, not hate.
The hateful extremism from abfab, dbmcvey, Fahd and Kangol2 tirgger good people to run from this site. I’ve had friends and family stop supporting us because they come here and reject the extremist LGBTQ individuals.
Matthewnow
Karma, Rudy. Karma.
abfab
A regular karma chamelion, but not nearly as cute.
LumpyPillows
If greasy Rudy caught on fire that would be one chemical fire that would be hard to extinguish. It is sad how he has deteriorated. Clearly deplorable.
Ronbo
Psychology Today did a story about “extremism” and identifies these individual warning traits of those caught up in in (including both the left and right)
“Societal risk factors (e.g., real intergroup conflicts, intergroup threats, the prevalence of ideologies legitimizing violence)
Social risk factors (e.g., violence in the home, the experience of group discrimination, minimal social diversity)
Individual risk factors (e.g., personality characteristics that favor domination/authoritarianism, self-esteem problems, antisocial behavior)
Read the hateful comments from abfab, dbmcvey, Fahd and Kangol2 to see how they match the profile of dangerous extremists.