The organizers of San Francisco Pride say they won’t now be adopting an old Twisted Sister hit as their anthem and have dropped the rock band’s singer, Dee Snider, from their line-up.
An announcement on Facebook explained the decision.
“San Francisco Pride was on the cusp of announcing Twisted Sister’s ‘We’re Not Gonna Take It’ as the unofficial rallying cry of this year’s SF Pride Parade & Celebration, with the band’s frontman Dee Snider performing the song on our center stage. Dee has always been a vocal supporter of LGBTQ+ rights.
“However, when we were notified about the tweet in which Dee expressed support for Kiss’s Paul Stanley’s transphobic statement, we were heartbroken and angry. The message perpetuated by that tweet casts doubt on young trans people’s ability to self-identify their gender.”
The statement concluded, “We have mutually agreed to part ways, but appreciate Dee seeing this as a teachable moment and a reminder that even allies need to be educated to ensure that they are not casually promoting transphobia. To all our allies – we want to call you in – not call you out.”
On Sunday, Kiss member Paul Stanley, 71, posted a tweet questioning the age at which children are supported to transition.
Stanley wrote, “There is a BIG difference between teaching acceptance and normalizing and even encouraging participation in a lifestyle that confuses young children into questioning their sexual identification as though some sort of game and then parents in some cases allow it.”
He said that while “there ARE individuals who as adults may decide reassignment is their needed choice,” he criticized “turning this into a game or parents normalizing it as some sort of natural alternative.”
He cautioned against “[…] Believing that because a little boy likes to play dress up in his sister’s clothes or a girl in her brother’s, we should lead them steps further down a path that’s far from the innocence of what they are doing.”
“Rash conclusions”
Snider retweeted Stanley’s tweet, saying, “You know what? There was a time where I ‘felt pretty’ too. Glad my parents didn’t jump to any rash conclusions! Well said, @PaulStanleyLive”
The irony was not lost on many that both Kiss and Twisted Sister rose to fame as pretty gender non-conforming acts.
Offspring guitarist Kevin Wasserman was among those to criticize both Stanley and Snider.
Many others took objection to Stanley’s viewpoint and his suggestion that gender-questioning youth are playing a game.
Paul Stanley responds to criticism
Yesterday, Stanley acknowledged the reaction to his initial tweet and suggested he failed to choose the best words.
“While my thoughts were clear, my words clearly were not. Most importantly, and above all else, I support those struggling with their sexual identity while enduring constant hostility and those whose path leads them to reassignment surgery. It’s hard to fathom the kind of conviction that one must feel to take those steps.
“A paragraph or two will remain far too short to fully convey my thoughts or point of view so I will leave that for another time or place.”
Snider also sought to clarify his comments. He suggested he just wants kids supported to “figure it out for themselves.”
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correctio
“However, when we were notified about the tweet in which Dee expressed support for Kiss’s Paul Stanley’s transphobic statement, we were heartbroken and angry. The message perpetuated by that tweet casts doubt on young trans people’s ability to self-identify their gender”
good grief! an absurd response to a perfectly reasonable tweet
dbmcvey
First post from the usual conservatives.
correctio
waiting for abfab to chime in here with “GOP TROLL.” guess he’s still sleeping off his hangover
abfab
correctio
ASSHOLE AND GOP TROLL
dbmcvey
If you’re hurt by being called “GOP TROLL” stop being a GOP troll.
ScottOnEarth
A reasonable tweet? You have to be joking. The tweet was based on a ridiculous – and false – presumption that parents are forcing their kids to question their gender and engage in related medical interventions. The thinking world knows that this is not true and Paul Stanley is simply fanning the flames of the intense tansphobia happening in the U.S. Hardly a reasonable tweet.
correctio
but like, I’m not hurt by you calling me a GOP TROLL. it’s bizarre how the only way you can make sense of what I say on this website is by calling me a Republican. turn off the cable news! it is rotting your brain
dbmcvey
No, you are a conservative. You’re anti-trans, anti-drag, and you support people who are anti-gay. You even try to push conservative politicians sometimes. I know you’re trying to be some kind of stealth gay conservative but it’s failing miserably.
correctio
@dbmcvey fake and lies
abfab
correctio
GOP TROLL HYPOCRITE
Mister P
Trans kids are not playing “dress up”. These 2 dressed up buffoons would know the difference if they bothered to learn the story of some trans kids.
JaredNorthcutt30
Some of them are, though. Have you bothered to watch the HBO trans kid documentary?
abfab
Why watch a docu when we have you to educate us.
sfv1971
Queerty, why are you still quoting from Twitter all the time? Don’t you know they hate our community? Do better.
abfab
And Elon Musk should be erased for good after theatening NPR with their domain name.
dbmcvey
We were kind of quick in thinking that Dee Snider represents anything other than himself. These bands were not really queer, they were playing with crossdressing as a provocative act.
abfab
Didn’t Tipper Gore have a little ”affair” with him once? I think he’s dreadful.
abfab
Dee Snider Is Not Gonna Take It!
For those unaware, the PMRC (Parents Music Resource Center) was a group founded by Tipper Gore that was designed to provide censorship and/or warning of offensive material in regards to music albums that had things that parents would find offensive such as profanity, obscene images, lyrics, descriptions of sexual and/or violent matters, etc.
In 1985, Dee Snider was invited to speak on behalf of those who opposed the actions of the PMRC. Dee Snider, as you’d expect, showed up as underdressed and unprofessional as he possibly could leading everyone to believe that he’ll just fall flat on his ass, but what he did next shocked EVERYONE!
societyofrock dot com
(Tipper was such a losing prude)
abfab
I take that back. He is not dreadful. Tipper and The Moms were dreadful. Why do these stupid women insist oh hyjacking the word MOM for thier lousy, losing causes? Hags.
still_onthemark
@abfab: In the ’80s, the PMRC put its PARENTAL WARNING label on any CD/cassette they considered offensive. Naturally, this drove sales way up! Anything with that label on it sold well. Paul Stanley and Dee Snider both probably have an extra $1 million or two thanks to Tipper Gore!
The PMRC even went after Cyndi Lauper because “She Bop” mentions masturbation (gasp).
abfab
Thank you much for that add. I followed the story closely but it was like a million years ago. And here we are again………………just a little bit of history repeating.
Time to binge on Shirlee Basey!
missvamp
actually he did make a larger statement on his Twitter & insta that states he is an ally, he was hurt that his comment was misconstrued. he just thinks small children need more parental guidance. go check it. this isn’t even the one I saw.
Man About Town
I’m always baffled by PC pundits who think it’s their place to tell parents how to raise their kids. This is right up there with entitled nitwits who think it’s their place to decide which books people can read. Just pathetic.
Mister P
Tipper Gore hasn’t made public comments in over 20 years.
abfab
Who names their child Tipper?
Fahd
Tipper Gore was the most disheveled second lady the U.S. has ever had. There was always a problem with her hair or her outfit or both. She and Al really have had a lot of trouble with their children, too.
Having a Twitter account does not require one to opine, but I guess one has the right to do so. One might wind up uninvited because of it, though. Seems like things are working as they should be.
Kangol2
“Have had a lot of trouble with their children”–what are you talking about? Their son Al Gore III had various legal troubles when he was young but is now directing a zero emission project in DC.
Eldest daughter Karenna Gore Schiff is a writer and climate activist.
Second daughter Kristin Gore is an author and screenwriter
Third daughter Sarah Gore is an artist, and trained as a doctor.
All are successful and are doing pretty well. All four also are Harvard grads, the daughters with honors. Again, what trouble are you talking about?
SDR94103
ever since that trans woman got control of pride the donations have fallen way off, the cops couldn’t walk in the parade prices for grandstand have gone way up. miss thang needs to resign right away.
dbmcvey
What are you talking about?
abfab
Yes, the Blue Winged One would do a better job.
Godabed
teachable moment indeed.
abfab
Oh, and that super cringey, open-mouth prolonged kiss where Al was sucking the face right off of Tipper’s head!
Consider This
It certainly appears “trans” has a very rough road ahead.
wade.l
Sorry to change the subject going on hereabout why would Pride want that horrid song as an anthem and that hideous man to perform it.
abfab
Hello Gloria Gaynor, Diana Ross and Helen Reddy!!!!!!!! Thank you wade.
Kangol2
Given the current right-wing war on trans people and trans children, as well as LGBTQ people more generally, I’d hope that an LGBTQ ally would be a bit more careful about what he or she or they say or retweet. This is censorship but a bit more sensitivity would go a long way. I hope it is a teachable moment for Snider.
inbama
That’s exactly what we need – more censorship. Perhaps everyone who wants to be an ally should have their tweets approved by GLAAD before posting.