Family Guy creator Seth MacFarlane, who makes cash money for that Rupert Murdoch guy, is funny and an atheist. Oh, and “a big champion of gay rights,” according to Maher. Says MacFarlane: “I like a good ass fucking as much as the next guy!” Awww, look how adorable cute straight boys are when they stick up for us! And then they talk about Supreme Court stuff and whatnot.
Heterosexuals
Sarise
He is so handsome. Who knew the guy who voices Peter Griffin happens to be a major hottie?
andy
Seth MacFarlane is a great guy! Glad to have him on our side!
Bruno
I’m glad he’s on our side too, but I asked a (straight male) friend of mine if joking about being gay when you’re not really is all that funny. Mind you, I’m not offended, I just don’t necessarily think it’s that funny.
AlanInSLC
@Bruno:
If anything, having a straight man be able to joke about putting themselves into a gay situation or scenario just shows that hey are secure with themselves and are not threatened by the idea of what being gay or having gay sex is. I think anytime a straight man is comfortable with that idea is a good thing for all of us homos.
alejandro
this is soo bad ass!! another reason to love family guy 😀
rick
the whole part of the show with seth was hilarious. especially when the straight guy complimented his teeth and told him how handsome he was.
rick
the 4/20 episode would be the pro pot one.
The Gay Numbers
He really does have sort perfect teeth. I was wondering if they are real when I saw them.
As for his comments, I thought they were funny. As long as someone supports us, I am totally cool with joking around. Hell, I’ve said worse about my straight friends sleeping with women.
John
I have had a crush on him for years. I hate that he goes out with girls and not me. I would make such a good hollywood wife, standing behind him in all the photos with our dog Jennifer Love Hewitt and a bitchy smile on my face, hair streaked blonde…oh please Seth, make me your hollywood wife.
Chris
@AlanInSLC:
Couldn’t agree more.
Also, Seth really is just dreamy!
Rikard
The funny made me love him, but the hotness makes him tragicaly unattainable. In a good way.
Chris
Er…where is this alleged big queer Muslim movement…?
The Gay Numbers
THere is a strong queer muslim contigent in the US and Europe although I doubt they thi nk themselves as a movement. But then there is not a huge movement of any kind when it comes to religion.
alan brickman
the coolest straight guy ever…thanks!!
alan brickman
like I said before…”don’t be jealous”…lol!!
Michael W.
That Muslim guy on there was hotter than MacFarlane, with his cute little glasses. I hope he also enjoys a good ass fucking.
The Gay Numbers
by the way the only muslim guy in congress right now is in support of marriage equality and gay rights generally so there is clearly some contigent of islam that’s not anti gay, but I know very little about that contigent. I have also met straight muslim guys in my neighborhood who do not seem bothered by gay people or about equality generally. Not sure again how wide spread that is. just anecdotes that i would not know generally existed.
jake
one day we can all stop being people fearful of nature and drop the whole “god” thing
The Gay Numbers
i know some really fucked up atheists. My point is there is no magic bullet to being healthy other than being healthy about fears that we have or attitudes towards others. perhaps the real problem is looking for simple solutions to a complicated issue about human nature, which by its nature is violent and discriminating.
jason
Ass fucking is not the definition of gay. Ass fucking is just ass fucking. Anyone can do it.
Stop defining “gay” with “ass fucking”.
NewYorkness
I’ve watched Family Guy and love it but never saw Seth before until Bill Maher’s show…as soon as he came out, he was oozing charm and hotness BIG TIME! mmmm..mmmm.good.
In the Fine Arts Library
Seth McFarlane kicks royal ass. and it helps too that he is eloquent.
p.s. – he is the voice of Brian, not Peter.
The Lesbian Mafia
“Right Wing … Left Wing … Republicans Democrats” blah blah blah … the entire country is not divided into two parties no matter how much Hollywood trash would like us to believe so.
Obama Democrats were the deciding factor in the passing for Prop 8.
Bill the Nose Mahr needs to get his ignorant story straight. Perpetuating the lie that it was only Mormons and Catholics who were responsible for Prop 8, and Muslims are the devil is the lie Hollywood perpetuates. Please it’s so elementary to figure these potheads out. He tries to act like he’s got big cajones when he wouldn’t DARE ever address the African American, Latino or Asian-Pan Asian community or Caucasian Democrats, on their part in the passing of Prop 8 because they would finish him in 5-4-3-2-1. He only attacks those that are “Politically correct” to attack … oh the irony
Ian
@In the Fine Arts Library: He’s the voice of BOTH Brian AND Peter, as well as Stewie, Quagmire, Cleveland, and Lois’ Father.
DJ
Stewie: ” I say Lois, peel this thing for me bitch! C’om how do you expect me to eat this thing like this, CUT IT UP! What? Do you expect me to stick this thing right down my throat? OH HEEEELLLOOOOOOOOOO!
Captain Freedom
@In the Fine Arts Library:
Actually, he is the voice of Brian, Peter, Stewie, and Quagmire. In fact he went to Harvard and did all four of those voices at their graduation ceremony. It’s hilarious watching him do it!
chapeau
I love Reza Aslan – he is not gay – but me likes the idea that he is also our Friend.
WOW ! That Seth MacFarlane blew me away – I’ve never seen him – nor do I watch *The Family Guy* (which I guess I should check it out — it does sound like my cup ‘o tea).
TANK
@The Gay Numbers:
In europe and the middle east, muslims consider themselves muslim first, and whatever country they happen to be living in or originated from second. Pew survey results confirm this. Of course there are moderate muslims who criticize the abuses of women and gay people…evidence suggests that they’re not the majority.
TANK
@The Gay Numbers:
Yes, there are bad atheists out there. I quite agree. Atheism is not an ethical system nor is it a belief system about the world, or a political system, or an addiction to drugs or alcohol, or a plate of freshly baked pastry.
The Gay Numbers
Tank:
a) I was only responding to the poster who did not seem to realize there are Muslims supportive of gays. I tried to avoid claiming to know the numbers like you seem to be doing. Honestly, I don’t know how many there are. I know there are gay Muslims out there too. If I remember correctly, the LA Times recently ran a really good piece about this Muslim lesbian and her travails. Part of her family supported her, but most did not as I remember. The point here is that even in the Muslim world it is not always as black and white as we think.
b) The same point I made about the religious, I make about the non-religious. Humans are humans. So, the idea, as one poster suggested- if we eliminate religion we elimate our problems- seems to miss the point. No, we would just find other ways to prosecute each other. Now, if your point is that it may have meant gays would not have been prosecuted. Maybe or maybe not. I am not going to speculate on what ifs knowing human nature to be what it is. Namely, that people prosecute what’s different. Religion to me is just the excuse they use to justify it. If it were not religion, they would make up some other lie to justify bigotry. The point is that there no easy answers. If you are thinking that you have one, you are wrong.
The Gay Numbers
prosecute should be persecute.
The Gay Numbers
One other quick follow up:
You mention Europe. The behavior of them not viewing themselves as members of the countries in which they live is a product of both sides acting that way. For example, the naitive French are not particularly inviting to Muslim immigrants. However crappy the US is on its xenophobia I think we generally do better than the Europeans do. So, part of the reason why I see some Muslims who are more open than what you may see abroad maybe a product of their integration into the American ideas of equality. That does not make us perfect, but it does maybe explain the differences in behaviors I have been able to observe.
NICHOLAS
seth is so sexy. the end.
anderson cooper is my future husband
I think it is cool that it is now cool for straight guys to be pro-gay.
J
@John: Lulz.
margo
@jason: Total pet peeve of mine, too. Just like jokes about Lesbians and “69”. These are common heterosexual activities, too, and I’m kind of sick of people using them as codewords for gay sex.
TANK
The point here is that even in the Muslim world it is not always as black and white as we think.
Black and white enough to condemn islam as a religion of war which brutally subjugates women and homosexuals across the planet.
TANK
No, we would just find other ways to prosecute each other
No, there’s just no evidence for this. It’s not inevitable and unavoidable that sexism exists or that racism is a fact of life that can’t be contained or eliminated from society. That is just false. Similarly, religion causes otherwise good people to do bad things…eliminating it would mean that those bad things would not occur.
TANK
@The Gay Numbers:
WHile it is true that native french are not inviting of them, they have tried to assimilate them into their culture. In fact, the president has allocated funding to building mosques. We’re talking second and third generation, though as well–and it’s across the board.
FOr your contention to work, it’d have to apply to the middle eastern muslim nations. Are middle muslim nations unwelcoming to muslims? I’m not going to let you get away with the absurdities that strumpet and others try to…no, that’s false. Those middle eastern muslims who are native jordanians, for example, identify as muslim first, jordanian second.
The Gay Numbers
Tank China, Soviet Union, The Khmer Rouge, Ethnic conflicts on Africa based on tribes, the treatment of blacks after they were converted to Christianity, the list goes on and on regarding human behavior , and how its roots are in violence. When you say there is not evidence- I have no idea what you mean other than you deny the evidence. There is a lot alot more.
I am not even getting into the psychological experiments such as the Stanford Prison Experiment, the test with blue versus brown eyes, the test with spliting grade school kids up by telling them that those who like impressionists paintings have suprior intellect to those who like expressionists paintings, and on and on and on.
I am also not even getting into the biological or genetic stuff that makes us creatures designed to discriminate and reduce information to sizeable chunks even if that information is incorrect. Again, and on and on.
This is a subject I have spent a great deal of time studying. I can bring up literally multiple examples and multiple disciplines to reinforce my factual assertion about human nature. This is why we need the rules to protect minorities. It’s because our natural instinct is bigotry.
The Gay Numbers
Tank
Yes, Islam has a lot of bigotry. Did you read me say it didn’t. Does that negate the point that I am maki ng about some? Since logically speaking you are not talking all, and I am not talking all, why do you think one point negates or changes the other?
Attmay
He’s on our side, but he’s still a no-talent fraud.
The Gay Numbers
Tank
I don’t respond to people changing the subject regarding cultural breakdowns. I gave a comparison to the US and Europe as to why I see a different response regarding Muslims in Europe and a subset of Muslims in the US. In context, y our going off into the middle east, is a red herring for you to go off into your own irrationalities. Your argument has nothing to do with the point I made. it does not help to understand, change or negate the point I made. It literally in context is a red herring. “Oh, look over there.” I am not falling for it or accepting it. There are Muslims in the US who are 2nd and third generation (probably more but I have only really talked to 2nd generation). SOme of them are from some of the worse enclaves for terrorism in the world like Afghanistan in the case of one friend. And yet, he and his family had no problem with me being gay. They were practicing Muslims including celebrating Ramadan and other religious observances. I again think the difference is being assimilated into American culture whereas the French and other countries try to isolate those that are different.
strumpetwindsock
@The Gay Numbers:
I hope you’re not counting on a logical argument from him (or to have your points recognized) because you won’t get it.
It’s like trying to catch smoke with a net.
TANK
It’s infuriating dealing with these borderline retarded objections…simply infuriating. they are all false, all propaganda, and all so undeniably stupid.
Tank China, Soviet Union, The Khmer Rouge, Ethnic conflicts on Africa based on tribes, the treatment of blacks after they were converted to Christianity, the list goes on and on regarding human behavior , and how its roots are in violence.
I wasn’t disputing that. However, religion causes otherwise good people to do bad things and has throughout human history. The good things could be performed without it, and have been. There is nothing about, say, atheism (intrinsic to it) that causes people to do bad things. That’s because not believing in god, for example, doesn’t mean you’re going to murder people because of who they are…because it’s not a political identity, etc.
Merely saying that eliminating toxic faith would just be replaced by other problems that would have the same effect is to argue that, for instance, racism is a necessary condition of humanity. I don’t think that’s true…I don’t think that sexism is necessary, either, Nor a lot of the conflicts which occur as a result of religion.
When you say there is not evidence- I have no idea what you mean other than you deny the evidence. There is a lot alot more.
There is simply no evidence to suggest that if religion were eliminated (I’m just going to cut and paste from here on out) that you have provided, that the problems it creates globally we still remain.
I am not even getting into the psychological experiments such as the Stanford Prison Experiment, the test with blue versus brown eyes, the test with spliting grade school kids up by telling them that those who like impressionists paintings have suprior intellect to those who like expressionists paintings, and on and on and on.
But once again, I’m not disputing that there are bad political ideologies and that people follow orders even when those orders conflict with their ethical beliefs…this is a nonsequitur.
There is simply no evidence to suggest that if religion were eliminated (I’m just going to cut and paste from here on out) that you have provided, that the problems it creates globally we still remain.
I am also not even getting into the biological or genetic stuff that makes us creatures designed to discriminate and reduce information to sizeable chunks even if that information is incorrect. Again, and on and on.
Once again…there is nothing innate about harmful sexist beliefs or domestic violence or lynching black people and gay people…there is nothing that means that these things are necessary. intrinsic to religious faith just going on the literal meaning of the commandments (women=property) and moral teachings of the bible, is sexism, racism, slavery, and a lot of other bigoted ideas…and the endorsement of genocide.
This is a subject I have spent a great deal of time studying. I can bring up literally multiple examples and multiple disciplines to reinforce my factual assertion about human nature. This is why we need the rules to protect minorities. It’s because our natural instinct is bigotry.
Terrorism isn’t innate, either.
TANK
I don’t respond to people changing the subject regarding cultural breakdowns. I gave a comparison to the US and Europe as to why I see a different response regarding Muslims in Europe and a subset of Muslims in the US.
Well, you better start. If you’re saying that it’s the poor treatment that muslims in europe receive that keeps them from identifying as, say, french over muslim, then that should bear out elsewhere in the world, too. From that, we can understand that social acceptance would cause them to identify as members of the country they reside rather than as muslim. We don’t see that, therefore, you’re contention is false.
In context, y our going off into the middle east, is a red herring for you to go off into your own irrationalities.
No, it’s not an irrationality. Your hypothesis is that it is the poor treatment of muslims in europe that causes them to identify as muslim first and whatever country they reside in or are citizens in second. Well, with social acceptance and relatively better treatment in terms of them being muslim in ther native countries, they still identify as muslim first. So we’ve controlled for the variable you’ve identified as causing them to identify as muslim first, and have shown that it is not what is doing it. It is not a red herring, it is a refutation of your hypothesis.
sparkle obama
@jason:
i am surprised to be defending this guy
but for me his humor works better from the horse’s mouth than on that show, which i cannot watch –
— i think you missed the point of his statement.
straight guys can & do get f*cked by fingers &
dildos.
he says that *even on that level* we are the same and (should) have the same rights.
his joke is on point & probably quotable, years from now.
obama’s joke about axelrod & he joining “partners everywhere & going to iowa to make it official” was also auspicious & quotable.
i want you gays to please help the president to get more jokes across!
get in the groove,
change is what’s happening!
The Gay Numbers
Tank
My first response was to someoen who said if we get rid of god, then all these problems will go away. Perhaps what you are angry at is your own inability to read and place my comments into the context of which they were made. I can’t help you with your issues on that front other than to suggest leaving the baggage at the door and learn to read comments in context.
You are asking me to prove an impossible with the “if we elimate x” since x can not be elimated. What we do know is that where it has not been a factor, there were still prejudices and genocide. You are now simply denying that. This is no longer in that sense a debate anymore. It’s become the standard conversation that people have where when they can not response to a factual, they deny the facts or create “well if the world were perfect the way I see it ” arguments. I am not the guy for those arguments. The fact is the Soviet Union did exist, and it was atheistisc. The fact is the Khmer Rouge did exist. So did many other examples which were not centered on religion. Your denial of them does not change that fact. Logic with out facts is just opinion. Not valid arguments. Provide me with proven arguments, and then come back to me. You are not ready to engage me competently on this.
The last point about terrorism is just crazy folk ramblings. I am not even sure what point you thought you were making there.
As for Europe, again context. I explained what I meant, and that’s all I meant. I do not need to respond to red herrings thrown out by someone who becomes unhinged. The difference between you and I is that I do not have a vested position here. If you provided actual counter arguments. I would respond, and perhaps even agree if I think they are vlid. What I will not do is to engage obvious attempts to change the subject. Or, for that mtter where you continue to talk about said red herring despite its irrelevancy.
At any rate, this conversation will not progress until you address your baggage. I am not interested in a tic-for-tac. Let’s just say you won, and leave it that. You can continue to argue if you feel like, but it will be without me engaging you further unless you actually can respond substantively to what I am actually saying.
TANK
My first response was to someoen who said if we get rid of god, then all these problems will go away.
What problems? Global conflict? A lot of them will, and if we got rid of god and fundamentalism (of any kind), we’d have the hope of resolving conflicts without resorting to violence. We don’t have that now. SUicide bombings? Gone…for example. Honor killings? GONE… A lot of sexism and bigotry would be eliminated if religion were to go.
Perhaps what you are angry at is your own inability to read and place my comments into the context of which they were made. I can’t help you with your issues on that front other than to suggest leaving the baggage at the door and learn to read comments in context.
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Look, you’re wrong…I proved it several times.
You are asking me to prove an impossible with the “if we elimate x” since x can not be elimated.
That’s your false belief. X can be eliminated. Fundamentalism and toxic faith can be eliminated.
TANK
The fact is the Soviet Union did exist, and it was atheistisc. The fact is the Khmer Rouge did exist. So did many other examples which were not centered on religion. Your denial of them does not change that fact. Logic with out facts is just opinion. Not valid arguments. Provide me with proven arguments, and then come back to me. You are not ready to engage me competently on this.
Listen, you ignorant fool. For the last time, stupid, there is nothing intrinsic to the meaning of atheism which entails that one be a communist or one engage in genocide. Atheism is not a political and ethical belief system, it’s not a philosophy…it’s not a belief about the world, even. Not so with religion. To say that stalinism was an atheistic reigme is incidental. He replaced god with himself and his political beliefs, and that is not what atheism is…just know what the word means before you continue to float this ridiculous memes.
The last point about terrorism is just crazy folk ramblings. I am not even sure what point you thought you were making there.
Look…you said that these things are innate and unavoidable. You’re wrong for two reasons, 1. even if it were innate, it’s avoidable, and 2. it’s not innate! Simple. Terrorism isn’t innate, neither is sexism and lynching…get it?
TANK
As for Europe, again context. I explained what I meant, and that’s all I meant. I do not need to respond to red herrings thrown out by someone who becomes unhinged. The difference between you and I is that I do not have a vested position here. If you provided actual counter arguments. I would respond, and perhaps even agree if I think they are vlid. What I will not do is to engage obvious attempts to change the subject. Or, for that mtter where you continue to talk about said red herring despite its irrelevancy.
No, it’s not an irrationality. Your hypothesis is that it is the poor treatment of muslims in europe that causes them to identify as muslim first and whatever country they reside in or are citizens in second. Well, with social acceptance and relatively better treatment in terms of them being muslim in ther native countries, they still identify as muslim first. So we’ve controlled for the variable you’ve identified as causing them to identify as muslim first, and have shown that it is not what is doing it. It is not a red herring, it is a refutation of your hypothesis.
Read carefully…
scott ny'er
Damn Seth MacFarlane is hot, cute, and has a great speaking, sexy voice.
On top of that, he’s intelligent, funny and is behind gay dudes. I’m a fan now.
Sampson
@TANK: But do you think Seth Macfarlane is sexy or not?
TANK
@Sampson:
Sure, he’s boyfriend hot. Just not my boyfriend hot.
Gaikokujin
I’ve got to admin, he is pretty hot.
Matt
Don’t forget —
Spaghetti is straight too —
until it hots hot water.
Matt
oops — that should have read
Spaghetti is straight too —
until it hits hot water. 😉
Rob Moore
@The Gay Numbers: That is not strictly true. Most of the middle eastern countries were artifically created. Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Tangier, Morocco, Algeria, Libya, Lebanon, Jordan, and Syria were in whole or in part created by their former colonial masters. In the early centuries of Islam, they were part of the Caliphate seated in Baghdad. Then they were part of the Ottoman Empire or the British Empire. After the collapse of the Ottoman Empire, France and Italy got into the mix.
Nicole
You flamming queens need to stop lusting after Seth, he does not want you bum fucking freaks ! He likes pussy not a stinky butt hole that’s wide, gaping and full of shit
PoMoRhody
I was looking for this video of Seth in commenting on another discussion thread. It’s interesting that it’s been taken down. In any case, I loathe Seth McFartland, and I loath him more for this homophobic (throw the fags a bone) comment. His understanding of being gay is “ass fucking,” that’s all a gay man is to him? This kind of 14 year old straight boy humor stupidity (and for the record I’m straight, not that it should matter) is what’s made Seth obscenely rich. Rest assured he’s is a homophobic frat boy who probably bullied “fags” when he was in high school. The only reason he’s “on your side” is because it’s fashionable. Take his money to fight people like him, but he does not deserve your praise.