Following his strong showing in the Iowa caucuses, Sen. Marco Rubio has been elevated to the role as the man who can save the Republican party from its own voters. He’s been building momentum and closing in on front-runner Donald Trump in polls for the New Hampshire primary, which is next Tuesday.
How much of that momentum remains after last night’s GOP candidate debate is anyone’s guess. At the most critical point in his campaign, Rubio gave a debate performance that will go down in the annals of modern politics as an epic disaster. Pundits resorted to words like “self-destructive,” “implodes,” and “viral glitch sensation” to describe it.
Rubio’s imitation of a customer service menu stuck on the same loop came as a result of attacks from New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie. Christie has been gunning for Rubio all week, recognizing that destroying Rubio is his only chance of keeping his campaign alive. (Christie released a devastating web commercial showing Rick Santorum dumbstruck when asked to cite the accomplishments that led him to endorse Rubio.)
Rubio began the debate by using one of his favorite stump lines: “Let’s dispel once and for all with this fiction that Barack Obama doesn’t know what he’s doing. He knows exactly what he’s doing. Barack Obama is undertaking a systematic effort to change this country, to make America more like the rest of the world.”
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Christie in turn attacked Rubio for never being “involved in a consequential decision where you had to be held accountable.” Rubio responded by attacking Christie’s fiscal competence, but amazingly began to recite the same line again: “Let’s dispel once and for all with this fiction that Barack Obama doesn’t know what he’s doing. He knows exactly what he’s doing.”
Christie responded by filleting Rubio before a national audience. “This is what Washington, D.C., does,” Christie said. “The drive-by shot at the beginning with incorrect and incomplete information, and then the memorized 25-second speech that is exactly what his advisers gave him. See, Marco, the thing is this: When you’re president of the United States, when you are a governor of a state, the memorized 30-second speech where you talk about how great America is doesn’t solve one problem for one person.”
Despite a reputation as a good debater, Rubio completely lost it. He tried attacking Christie’s response to last month’s big snow storm and when that met with boos, he retreated to a safe haven: “Here’s the bottom line. This notion that Barack Obama doesn’t know what he’s doing is just not—”
Christie jumped in. “There it is! There it is. The memorized 25-second speech. There it is, everybody.”
Rubio never recovered. In fact, learning nothing from his humiliation, he returned one more time to his favorite line.
The only positive spin would be that the real Rubio was kidnapped and replaced by a defective android. To be fair, one bad debate may not mean anything more than an off night. Remember Obama’s first debate with Mitt Romney in 2012?
The problem for Rubio is the timing of his debacle. He’s trying to close the deal with the GOP establishment and particularly its donors by positioning himself as the best candidate. He proved last night that his weaknesses are every bit as large as the rest of the field’s.
In fact, there’s every reason to think that Rubio is not quite ready for prime time. His national debut, giving the rebuttal to Obama’s State of the Union speech in 2013, was widely mocked. His main accomplishment in the Senate has been his absence from duty. Rubio’s main vulnerability is that he’s a lightweight, and last night he did everything in his power to prove that’s the case.
Although he’s just a prettier version of Ted Cruz, with the same far right positions and overweening ambition, Rubio has somehow managed to present himself as an electable moderate. Republicans desperate for a candidate who won’t embarrass them in the general election have flocked to him as if he was the only life raft in the sea. What they found out last night was that the raft is leaky. Even if Rubio manages to overcome his failure, it will remain part of his political narrative and a sign that even GOP’s best candidates are none too good.
1EqualityUSA
Big money donors have screwed the GOP so badly. It backfired on them. I love this country. Citizens United, unapologetically approved by the Republicanappointedpoliticaloxen on the Supreme Court, is shameful. Citizens United needs to end and voter suppression needs to be stopped. Gerrymandering is undemocratic. I’m so glad the Tedious Right shot themselves in the foot with their despicable cheating and unfair practices. It has been a very interesting footnote to American politics. I hope the GOP does not taste power again for centuries to come. This creepy, dark entity has used the middle class, abused the system, and held our country hostage to their endgame. Now, the game has ended. Good riddance. To the dust bin with the lot of you.
DCguy
This right here is why Republican candidates go way up in the polls and then crash. Because with the party now only existing on anger and resentment, you can’t get a real, thoughtful, moderate politician in there. So what happens, is the right wing media hands them somebody with what they think is a good resume, people get excited, the polls go up, and then when the voters actually get to know the candidate their poll numbers crash back down.
Scott Walker, Rick Perry, Carley Fiorina, Ben Carson, Ted Cruz, and now Rubio. That is why they keep saying Trumps numbers will go down, they thing they don’t get is that Trump was already known by the voters, and Trump isn’t funded by the same donors so he can say whatever he wants and doesn’t have to cater to the voters AND the donors, he can throw red meat again and again just to the base.
But the way the GOP media has created such an angry base, no politician who has any thoughts inside their head can make it through the primary system anymore.
onthemark
SO glad to see that little weasel Rubio get beat up last night. I was already sick of that memorized “talking point.” And if he thinks Obama is that bad, how did Obama get re-elected? Rubio is no “moderate,” he’s a freak on abortion (won’t even support exceptions for rape/inc*st) and seems likely to start 4 or 5 more wars. And he goes to 4 different anti-gay churches. (Make up your mind!) Well, at least he doesn’t wear two watches at the same time like Cruz does…
Desert Boy
Marco Rubio.
giant, empty head, topped with purdy hair.
Loves gay foam parties in Miami.
martinbakman
Lotta dopes on the Repub side. That’s nothing new.
It’s time to make America gay again!
Bob LaBlah
““This is what Washington, D.C., does,” Christie said. “The drive-by shot at the beginning with incorrect and incomplete information, and then the memorized 25-second speech that is exactly what his advisers gave him. See, Marco, the thing is this: When you’re president of the United States, when you are a governor of a state, the memorized 30-second speech where you talk about how great America is doesn’t solve one problem for one person.”
Christies butchering of the little dummy will go down in history. This is the one time that I loved how Cruz simply smirked but said nothing. It was obvious to everyone but him, Rubio, that every time he opened his mouth about Obama he was only digging the hole deeper and deeper. No one else, for the most part, even mentioned Obama. They all knew instinctively that he was going to do just what he did, hang himself.
He talks about America having the least amount of planes and ships in a hundred years but was too stupid to realize that the technology and firepower in ONE U.S. submarine has more firepower and capability of the ENTIRE U.S. arsenal of one hundred years ago. What a dummy. Stick to stripping at foam parties. I honestly thought twice he was going to start crying. I KNEW before this was all over Christy was going to have him for lunch and thats just what happened.
Last night the poor baby had his Dan Quayle moment. This is from the debate of 1988. Watch Quayle fight from crying as did Marco Rubio last night at least three times.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWXRNySMW4s
BeachDaddyDave
Just what are his qualifications? How is he prepared? THIS is the point where his supporters argue that Obama was not prepared either, as he was elected from his first term in the Senate. But there is the irony of it! Rubio cannot argue this of Obama, and deride Obama as unprepared, then argue that he (Rubio) IS prepared!
Tom Alpers
If you are sick of the same old crap over and over there are only two people running for President who have a chance of winning AND that won’t be the same old crap.
Trump
OR
Sanders
A vote for anyone else is to vote for endless war and endless debt. If you fear what “that guy will do” just remember, presidents can’t do anything substantial without getting congress to vote to do it and fund it EXCEPT for getting us into war.
1898
It was absolutely fantastic to see Christie take this little shit down a few notches. He’s more of a leader than Rubio could ever even dream of being.
Bob LaBlah
@1898: I said earlier last year that when the election started heating up Christy was not going to use J-Lube on any of them and so far he has proven me right. I can’t wait till he starts on ol’ Brother Cruz with both fists, though it will not surprise me in the case of Cruz just how long and far………..anyway, enough said.
Bob LaBlah
I am sure the majority of you don’t remember this incident when the entire country thought for sure Reagan was about to go postal before the term was even coined. Never rattle an old man who deep down doesn’t care what the public thinks and sometimes shows it. I thought for sure his (Reagan) next move was to crown the guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd_KaF3-Bcw
Brian JC Kneeland
he and Cruz would be so bad for the country!
Ron King
Not gods chosen…..American rejects
Marshall R. Krug
I never did, and never will, think he could save anyone except his own sleazy ass!
Jonty Coppersmith
http://www.phibetaiota.net/2016/01/wayne-madsen-marco-rubio-homosexual-update-with-photos/
Alistair Wiseman
@onthemark:
You stated, “And if he thinks Obama is that bad, how did Obama get re-elected?”
Well, the below video can help explain how Obama got elected and re-elected.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_JJLLfTR8I&feature=player_detailpage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_JJLLfTR8I
Ridpathos
The GOP constituency has shown that it will be forgiving of anything a candidate does up to and perhaps even past declaring a national holocaust on whatever group of people they hate that minute and preparing the gas chambers. Why else is Trump still in the running? They’re blind sheep that will vote for anything as long as it’s red.
Alistair Wiseman
@1EqualityUSA:
You stated, “Big money donors have screwed the GOP so badly. It backfired on them.”
Really? Like all the big money donors to Trump? Oh wait, that’s right, there are no big money donors to Trump.
And the big money donors to Hillary and Bernie? Has it “backfired on them” like it “screwed the GOP so badly”?
Or how about the Clinton Foundation accepting millions of dollars from foreign governments during Hillary Clinton’s tenure as Secretary of State? Under Hillary Clinton, the State Department approved $165 billion worth of commercial arms sales to 20 nations whose governments had given millions to the Clinton Foundation.
Are those the find of “big money donors” you are talking about?
Josh447
Rubio, the barking Chihuahua.
1EqualityUSA
Alistair, Conservative ‘cards picked loser horses to promote. There’s the difference.
1EqualityUSA
4.9, the lowest it’s been since Feb ’08……now, how was Bush? Obama saved our asses.
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/nation_world/20160207_Unemployment_rate_lowest_in_8_years.html
1EqualityUSA
trotting out your petty jewels (videos) won’t cut it. Your party is obsolete and you have only yourselves to blame.
Alistair Wiseman
@1EqualityUSA:
You poor thing. You have overdosed on Rachel Maddow again.
You state that, “Your party is obsolete….” The facts, never a Democrats friend, just don’t bear out your rhetoric. I would surmise that a political party is not “obsolete” that has a:
Republican majority of seats in the House of Representatives.
Republican majority of seats in the Senate.
Republican majority of the governorships.
Republican majority of the state legislatures.
In fact, since Barack Obama has taken office, the Democrats have lost over 1,000 state and federal seats to Republicans. Is that your definition of obsolete? Barack Obama and his policies have been the best thing for Republican majorities in literally decades.
Facts have never been a strong suit for Democrats as it gets in the way of their narrative. Keep trying, you are bound to get something right. 🙂
Bob LaBlah
@1EqualityUSA……………..I’m sure you would agree that what doesn’t sound right is if that many are in power then why are things getting better instead of worse? If that many business are closing with that many of the other party in power then someone is asleep at the wheel, you think? What good is power if you aren’t using it for the good of all? That is a question that should have been asked long ago to whoever is in charge of this all powerful party. I always thought it was the leader who got blamed, not the peasants. They way it is presented you would think the president is a peasant, huh? Or did they just take the office from the other and changed NOTHING, so to say?
And keep in mind, 1EqualityUSA or anyone else reading this, it is a FACT in the business world that businesses close in the real world because of lack of planning by its owners, not government intervention. The government is involved in no segment of the workforce where it is the government causing the layoffs unless of criminal activity including neglect on the part of its owners.
And by the way, since I can’t ask him what his plan is once Obamacare is taken away.
northwest
Not a single worthwhile Republican candidate. Rubio is a slick phony who finally slipped in his own shit. I’d vote for President Obama a third time if I could, none of the right wing clowns measure up to his greatness. Demographics will kill the evil GOP for good and I cannot wait for that time to come.
1EqualityUSA
norwest, I would vote for Obama a third term too. Alistair Wiseman would defend Satan if he were a Republican. We’re going to have to agree to disagree, because he’s so entrenched in his do-nothing, obstructionist party that no amount of evidence or reasoning will suffice. Paul Krugman wrote an article titled, “In Defense of Obama” that lays out nicely how brutal the Tedious Right was towards his administration. The GOP really is the dark entity. Having become obsolete has made the Republicans downright dirty and anti-middle class.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/in-defense-of-obama-20141008
DCguy
@Alistair Wiseman:
Alister, remind me again, you support a party where every person running for President has said that they support bigotry and want to take away any rights that LGBT’s have.
Please explain how fighting to support an organization that states as it’s goal an attack on you yourself isn’t self hatred and equivalent to a woman supporting a group that wants to take away their right to vote.
1EqualityUSA
DCguy, Don’t even bother to ask Alistair. He’s got his standard, whimsical, nausea-inducing answers in his toolbox. Pathetic creature.
Alistair Wiseman
@DCguy:
So you have time to pose a new question, but apparently not enough time to answer my response on how Martin Shkreli supported Bernie Sanders a few topics back?
I understand. It is hard to refute actual quotations of Shkreli’s support of Bernie Sanders.
I can supply videotape if the quotes aren’t enough proof that you are incorrect. 🙂
Alistair Wiseman
@1EqualityUSA:
You stated, “He’s got his standard, whimsical, nausea-inducing answers in his toolbox”.
Those “standard, whimsical, nausea-inducing answers in his toolbox” are called facts.
Apparently, that is why you don’t have any depth or validity in your responses to me.
Try facts, they’re not just for conservatives. 🙂
CWM85
While everyone attacks Rubio, Cruz is getting a free pass for lying, stealing votes, fraudulent mail to shame voters, his hostile towards anyone not evangelical and ultra conservative. Rubio certainly needs to be stopped but Cruz is even worse and he’s skating by. The heat needs to be even more direct as this ticking bomb that is Cruz.
1EqualityUSA
Alistair, you said, “I was a Democrat when I was young, but then I saw the light….” bullshit like that. Your own words, paraphrased, so who knows what the “facts” are, except that the Republicans are obsolete.
Alistair Wiseman
@1EqualityUSA:
So sorry you don’t know the definition of ‘facts’ and ‘obsolete’.
Otherwise, yet another deep and penetrating post.
1EqualityUSA
It’s about time you were penetrated. Maybe now you’ll relax a bit and let the haters spiral down like something out of a William Blake painting.
1EqualityUSA
Alistair, I shouldn’t write when I’m tired. You frustrate the Hell out of me. I apologize for the above comment. It was meant to be a play off of the word you used, but upon rereading it, it can be taken too many ways and I don’t like it. Sorry if you were offended by my comment. I think I’ll clean house today. Happy queertying.
Alistair Wiseman
Thank you for the apology. It is very kind of you, but truly not necessary.
Glad to see there is a heart behind the words. 🙂
Hussain-TheCanadian
@Alistair Wiseman: Alistair darling; you shouldn’t be disparaging people about running away from a conversation, especially when you do it most of the time with me.
Love you though………………As for how the Republicans are retaining their so-called majority, one word: Gerrymandering.
1EqualityUSA
Rubio’s a phony. Americans (United States) see through that sooner than most. Our BS-o-Meters are honed by our having immigration in our histories. The spirit doesn’t match the flesh somehow, as if he is out of synch. Odd guy. The first time he ever heard his own voice on tape must have rocked his world. He likely couldn’t believe it was he that was speaking. He sees himself in an oval office, when we see him somewhere else.
As for Republican behavior, with regard to gerrymandering, voter suppression, Supreme Court oxen pulling political carts, it shows that the party is losing ground on the content of their message. They are staying relevant by cheating, stirring up hate, and pandering to money communities. The symptoms are starting to show.
1EqualityUSA
A blast from the past, an interesting interview with math-man, Nate Silver:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDPpoOaGLK4
Alistair Wiseman
@Hussain-TheCanadian:
Why look! It’s “Queerty’s Unofficial Muslim Apologist” trying to make desperate attempts at his superior debating skills. All unsubstantiated claims aside, I will address your gerrymandering claim.
Gerrymandering is a plague on both our parties. Initially, Democrats championed the process, gerrymandering districts to maintain minority populations that vote blue. Due to this strategy, Democrats controlled Congress for 40 years, from 1955 to 1995. Republicans learned the lesson – and got better at gerrymandering than Democrats. The GOP realized it could overcrowd districts created by Democrats with disproportionate amounts of minority populations. By increasing numbers in a safe Democratic district, Republicans reduced the influence of the liberal voting bloc in both state politics and congressional elections. Republicans controlled the US House from 1995 until losing election cycles in 2006 and 2008; however, the party retained its power in state legislatures, and doubled down on redrawing favorable maps after the 2010 Census.
What’s good for the goose is good for the gander. If this gerrymandering plague continues without interruption, I only hope Republicans can maintain their majorities through the 2020 Census.
Reap what you sow. 🙂
Alistair Wiseman
@1EqualityUSA:
I’m not quite sure what the point of your clip was suppost to be.
However, using your own Nate Silver reference:
“A study by John Sides and Eric McGhee found that redistricting after the 2010 Census, which was controlled by Republicans in many key states, produced a net swing of only about seven House seats toward Republicans.”
“The safest answer is that it will tend to help whichever party is in control of the redistricting process in a given state: the fewer legal constraints that party has, the freer it will be to draw Congressional districts as it sees fit. So if Democrats are in charge of the redistricting process in New York in 2020, perhaps they can find a way to squeeze out another Democratic seat or two by splitting up minority voters. And if Republicans are in charge in Texas, perhaps they can avoid giving up as many seats to Democrats by diluting the minority vote in cities like Dallas and Houston.”
Complete article by Nate Silver:
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/geography-not-voting-rights-act-accounts-for-most-majority-minority-districts/
1EqualityUSA
Gerrymandering needs to stop irrespective of who is in power.