The bubbles are real, folks.
While that’s hardly news, their existence continues to leave people across the political spectrum scratching their heads and involuntary muttering “really?”
The right can’t believe the left isn’t concerned about voter fraud, which is obviously a real problem because the President-elect of the United States says it’s a real (big!) problem, and he always tells it like it is:
In addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide, I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 27, 2016
Serious voter fraud in Virginia, New Hampshire and California – so why isn't the media reporting on this? Serious bias – big problem!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 28, 2016
But here’s the difference between the right’s bubble and the left’s bubble — facts.
Facts have the ability to permeate the membrane of the left’s bubble. It may take a while, but they manage to get through. The right’s is made out of a fact-proof, science-proof substance that only gets thicker with age.
Which leads to moments like this one, in which CNN reporter Alisyn Camerota is dumbfounded by a Trump supporter’s insistence that millions of illegal immigrants voted for Hillary Clinton in California, despite, you know, the fact that it just didn’t happen.
Nobody said living in a post-fact era was going to be fun.
You learned something powerful. Rightwing people are gullible and believe many things without any facts. So this can be used to derail any conservative agenda by simply continuing to use this sad, sad reality to manipulate those voters. Just start creating seemingly plausible stories that work against anything politicians you dislike wish to accomplish. No reason to stop just because the election is over. Make the entire train jump the tracks, not just the engine which jumped the tracks during the election. Let the politicians who went down this path of misinformation reap the whirlwind.
What a tool! There is a reason that it is called Clinton News Network. The fact that this CNN “journalist” had never heard about this Obama interview is mind-blowing.
Here is a link to the Obama interview that her panel all knew about, but she didn’t:
@Alistair Wiseman: Except it was cut by FOx in a way to show like Obama talks about allowing immigrants to vote when he didn’t. So yes, what a tool
@Alistair Wiseman: If you fell for this you’re definitely part of the problem. The “interview” in this clip is so badly edited that you can actually see the jumps in the tape. This is supposed to be the “proof” that the President “instructed” illegal immigrants to vote? Please. Nice try, but no cigar. Thanks for playing, but try again next time when you have some real documentation to back up your position.
Bigots don’t care about truth. They care about how they want the world to look like and behave. The America we thought had changed, has not. Just as bigoted as before. But now the bigots will fight for the 1950’s. The battle has been joined.
Come on people, facts have a liberal bias!
@REDBEARD: I’ve heard of it. It’s as she described, a deceptively edited video, making it look as if Obama said something he didn’t say.
@Alistair Wiseman: “What a tool!”
Projecting again? You and a few others here (brian, joety, and so on) constantly demonstrate your inability to tell the difference between facts and fantasy. You constantly fall for comments out of context and manipulations of videos even when the entirety of a comment is widely circulated.
There is a good reason that there is no evidence at all for the massive voter fraud Trump predicted and claims happened: IT NEVER HAPPENED, IT IS JUST ANOTHER OF HIS MANY DEMONSTRATED LIES. Voter fraud is just one of the humorously large number of monsters under the beds and in the wardrobes of right winger, who are demonstrably fear driven and reality-averse (and by demonstrably I don’t mean in my imagination as you might, but demonstrated by survey, observed behavior and scientific study).
Except it was not a “bad” or false edit. The below link is the the unedited video, posted by media network mitu, who did the interview with the President.
My personal opinion is the President misspoke or did not hear the question correctly. This does not diminish the feelings of the countless people who saw this interview and heard what they heard.
This was a big (conservative) news item for a couple of days. Was the President later questioned about it? Did the White House press corp ask the press secretary to clarify the President’s comments? They may have, and definitely should have if the press corp were doing their job.
Bottom line: This was a small interview geared toward young Latinos that very few people would have heard if it had not been for how President Obama (awkwardly) answered that one question. It is also very telling that the CNN “journalist” never heard of this issue; evidence of the further divide of the mainstream media and the heartland voter.
Both parties suck, and CNN has been biased for the silly Dems for decades.
The President most certainly DID say that if non-documented immigrants (illegal immigrants) voted, they would need to have no concern that the Department of Immigration and Naturalization would come looking for them, and that the act of voting MADE THEM CITIZEN. It is not unreasonable to think, therefore, that faced with a candidate that was threatening to deport people residing in the US without official permission, these people could vote (no ID needed!!) for the candidate that was not threatening deportation. Listen for yourself to the unedited video NOT from Fox News: https://youtu.be/oLLt-a6dI_0
@Brian S: Uh…Is English your first language, ’cause it sure does not seem to be that case!? HE SAID THAT IF YOU VOTE AS AN ELIGIBLE CITIZEN NOBODY IS GOING TO INVESTIGATE YOUR FAMILY LOOKING FOR UNDOCUMENTED RELATIVES. In no way did he imply that the very act of voting makes you a citizen or that undocumented individuals can register! I cannot emphasize how obvious that is. For you and that clown Alistair to misunderstand so thoroughly should be an embarrassment to both of you.
Words have meaning, you don’t get to re-parse them in your imagination and give them a different meaning. That is on you, it does not change reality.
And please, take a remedial English class so you can understand what I assume is a second language for you.
@Alistair Wiseman: “My personal opinion is the President misspoke or did not hear the question correctly. This does not diminish the feelings of the countless people who saw this interview and heard what they heard.”
Only those with a predetermined agenda would misunderstand as badly as you seem to have. All the president said was that if you are a citizen, and vote (he was pretty f***ing unambiguous about the citizen part), nobody is going to investigate your relatives. It was clear.
I didn’t watch your link at first, assuming you were linking to the obviously edited FOX video. But I am glad i finally did, as it makes your tenuous grip on reality even more obvious.
Just because Trump dreamed that millions of undocumented folks voted does not mean they did. If it was so easy to find the few stupid folks who tried to vote for Trump twice, how hard would it be to notice millions fo illegal votes? Try and learn to think!!
donald trump and donald trump supporters live in their own fact free reality free propaganda reading universe
donald trump and donald trump supporters have a total disconnect and a total disassociation with reality so this should not surprise anyone the only source of information they have comes from reading fake news and propaganda not real news news from trusted news sources that are properly sourced
Would that be the same kind of “total disconnect and a total disassociation with reality” that overwhelming dismissed the candidacy and election of Donald Trump?
You. Have. Learned. Nothing.
@dwes09: Here is the pertinent text:
“RODRIGUEZ: Many of the millennials, Dreamers, undocumented citizens — and I call them citizens because they contribute to this country — are fearful of voting. So if I vote, will immigration know where I live? Will they come for my family and deport us?
OBAMA: Not true. And the reason is, first of all, when you vote, you are a citizen yourself. And there is not a situation where the voting rolls somehow are transferred over and people start investigating, et cetera. The sanctity of the vote is strictly confidential in terms of who you voted for. If you have a family member who maybe is undocumented, then you have an even greater reason to vote.”
If you are wrong, you are wrong, you’re wrong, you’re f-king wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. These idiots are wrong. There’s no two ways about it.
@Alistair Wiserman I didn’t see u reply to the perfectly reasonable point made by @dwes09. Instead you changed the subject and made some nonsense remark, just like most right-wing nutjobs do when confronted with facts. In the interview you YOURSELF posted, Obama never says what you claim he does. Watch it again, and you might get it, dear. Key word to look for in Obama s response : CITIZEN
@dwes09: you sir give me hope for this country thank you .
@Alistair Wiseman: That wasnt a total disconnect that was simply being completely embarrassed by the notion of some megalomaniac narcissist who has the tendency to spew racially insensitive prejudices and misogyny actually becoming the president of the united states.
Your party created this embarrassment not ours you only have yourselves to blame for what this nation and our community now has to face.
@Alistair Wiseman: If Donald Trump claimed the earth was made of cheese and pigs could fly your party would immediately believe both and thats a fact .
Donald Trump claiming thousands of illegals(Mexicans=human beings,etc) voted is ridiculous nor is there any kind of credible proof to back up that assertion with.
When Donald Trump breathes he is lying when he opens his mouth he is lying nothing this man ever says is truthful or factual in any capacity.
Stupid is as stupid does.
Just like their president-elect, these hopeless imbeciles are arguing WITHOUT evidence. Make America Dumb Again.
“The most TRUSTED name in news” HA HA HA HAH
It’s funny how the Republican Nazi’s are in terror of the recount and doing everything they can to stop it. I mean if there was so much voter fraud why wouldn’t they be joining that effort?? Lol
It sounded to me that the woman was asking if she, A HISPANIC LEGAL CITIZEN, votes, will they be able to track down any illegal relatives of hers (who did not try to vote) and deport them.
The Pres should have asked her to clarify the question, or he should have clarified it himself.
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