Comedian Kathy Griffin had a question.
“Gays, mommy has a question,” she tweeted. “Are there Qanon gays? If so, what’s their deal?”
And just like that the My Life on the D-List star opened up a can of worms, with commenters airing their grievances over the LGBTQ folks in their lives who have fallen down the QAnon rabbit hole and can’t seem to get out.
“Yes,” wrote one woman. “My white gay friend. weird as fuck. I’m slowly phasing him out of my life. It’s hard. We have been friends since we were like 13.”
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yes. my white gay friend. weird as fuck. I'm slowly phasing him out of my life. It's hard. We have been friends since we were like 13.
— Olivia (@Handbasket_) March 3, 2021
Her experience turned out to be something of a theme.
“I cut ties with a white gay friend recently,” chimed in another commenter. “He had become a complete MAGAt, now is anti-mask and thinks Covid is a massive government hoax. He graduated from a top university but has managed to get brainwashed against his own interests. I don’t understand.”
I cut ties with a white gay friend recently. He had become a complete MAGAt, now is anti-mask and thinks Covid is a massive government hoax. He graduated from a top university but has managed to get brainwashed against his own interests. I don’t understand.
— Theresa W. Carey (@twcarey) March 3, 2021
“It’s so much more widespread than we’re acknowledging now,” Griffin replied.
It’s so much more widespread than we’re acknowledging now.
— Kathy Griffin (@kathygriffin) March 3, 2021
The stories didn’t stop there.
“Omg yes. I had dinner yesterday with my best friend and her friend came over her house and he is. I live in the DMV and they are all boaters. They believe Jan 6th was antifa and say Trump has done so much for our community. I got up and left. I came home I was so disgusted,” wrote another Twitter user.
Omg yes. I had dinner yesterday with my best friend and her friend came over her house and he is. I live in the DMV and they are all boaters. They believe Jan 6th was antifa and say Trump has done so much for our community. I got up and left. I came home I was so disgusted
— Paige Joy (@The_Paige_Life) March 3, 2021
Author Nellie Oleson added her experience:
“Ugh. Yes. Met a few. White, male, sort of semi posh, upper middle class, ‘I’ve got mine jack!, to hell with everyone else’ mentality. A lot of libertarian, Ayn Rand types.
Also, lots of left wing people are joining Q. ‘Alternative thinking’, woo-woo folks.”
Ugh. Yes. Met a few. White, male, sort of semi posh, upper middle class, "I've got mine jack!, to hell with everyone else" mentality. A lot of libertarian, Ayn Rand types.
Also, lots of left wing people are joining Q. "Alternative thinking", woo-woo folks.— Arngrim (@Arngrim) March 3, 2021
But the most illuminating response came in the form of a commenter resurfacing a thread from January. “Read this super interesting thread about exactly this type of phenomenon. (I had no idea.),” they wrote.
Here it is:
https://twitter.com/robertmathisok/status/1347591592446750720
https://twitter.com/robertmathisok/status/1347591594900393985
https://twitter.com/robertmathisok/status/1347591596162875400
https://twitter.com/robertmathisok/status/1347591600634003460
https://twitter.com/robertmathisok/status/1347591605251960832
https://twitter.com/robertmathisok/status/1347591612025729027
https://twitter.com/robertmathisok/status/1347591617071480833
https://twitter.com/robertmathisok/status/1347591622230421504
https://twitter.com/robertmathisok/status/1347591627716624387
https://twitter.com/robertmathisok/status/1347591631013347328
https://twitter.com/robertmathisok/status/1347591635958423554
https://twitter.com/robertmathisok/status/1347591639569719297
https://twitter.com/robertmathisok/status/1347591644804050944
https://twitter.com/robertmathisok/status/1347591651770953728
https://twitter.com/robertmathisok/status/1347591656804126727
https://twitter.com/robertmathisok/status/1347591663544373253
https://twitter.com/robertmathisok/status/1347591665377185798
https://twitter.com/robertmathisok/status/1347591667029843971
Whew!
Kathy asked, and clearly got her answer.
“What a thread,” she responded. “Spells it all out.”
What a thread. Spells it all out.
— Kathy Griffin (@kathygriffin) March 3, 2021
ShiningSex
QAnon people have to have mental problems. No one could believe such total bs.
It began as a joke and now morons believe the joke.
WashDrySpin
These people have NO mental illness to say so diminishes those that are mentally ill. This needs to stop and acknowledge that these people choose their poison
Creamsicle
You don’t need mental illness to be driven crazy by the modern Republican party. Just look at their behavior since 2015. It’s like the entire party is an abusive relationship and refusing to admit it, even though we can all see the fat shiner on their faces.
Even before the pandemic DJT was leaving his close out in the cold figuratively speaking (and then literally during the campaign). Even a year or more before lockdowns the Trump base was saying “he [wasn’t] hurting the right people,” because big tech was still booming while blue collar wages have barely moved. The 2017 tax bill even hurt a lot of his base who work on trucking in very real and measurable ways. Many report that their gross incomes decreased after the law was passed.
Mister P
People need a brain stimulus more than an economic stimulus.
WashDrySpin
This is very true…Many Americans are in love with their distractions
Bob
Have our schools been THIS bad? Seriously? Some of QAnon is college educated. I just don’t understand how an otherwise normal and smart person can get THIS stupid overnight..
edwardnvirginia
Oh really! That is ignorant of the true needs of poor and working class people …. who have very good brains, than you …. but no advantages economically, socially, or culturally. MANY OF WHOM fall prey to conspiracies and cons BECAUSE ‘superior’ elite snots talk down, look down, and punch down on them.
barryaksarben
SO much of it like this pukes from Atl who has moved to Florida is RACISM. White guys who think they are entitled to be wealthy. Some work some dont but they all think they have been cheated. Bunch of losers. He was run out of Georgia so he comes down to my state to screw with all new people. He looks like he has done waaay too much meth
LeBlevsez
Edwardnvirginia, your complaint doesn’t track. The majority of poor and working-class people do not support Trumpism, mob-violence, or insurrection, unless you count only white people, who comprise your “MANY OF WHOM”. And they “fall prey to conspiracies and cons” not because of “elite snots” but rather because of elitist right-wing politicians who stoke their fears and inflame their prejudices for the benefit of those self-same right-wing politicians.
You’re right about their economic disadvantages. So why do they look to the Republicans who, to a person, just voted against their interests? They look there because they have prejudices that can be inflamed. So their “very good brains” seem to have some very bad synapses.
So stop blaming vile behavior and putrid beliefs on the unkind words of your opposition.
cameronpeak
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tjack47
Did anyone go to the inauguration on March 4th? I didn’t think so. Ughh, the crap people believe. I’m beginning to think they’ve been hypnotized by the Saudi Arabian orb.
woodroad34
There was an article (which I was trying to find to attach the link) where about 5 or 6 people from California showed up and looked around trying to figure out where the inauguration was. They said that they’d keep coming back to the site at around noon each day to make sure they didn’t miss it. (and, no, they weren’t from Los Angeles, they were from one of the conservative cities in Riverside, I think).
Joseph1971
He is obviously just trying to gain publicity. I doubt he supports Trump, unless he suffers from mental illness.
woodroad34
Trump made millions off the “Stop the Steal”, which didn’t go to any effort to “stop the steal”, it went into his private coffers. I hope the IRS catches him on it for tax fraud when he doesn’t report it as income. His niece, Mary, claims this is what he’ll do to make money now…be a traveling snake-oil salesman or an evangelical like Franklin Graham or Pat Roberson.
Mack
Woodroad34 Trump has a new PAC (which is why he doesn’t want the Republican Party to use his likeness) in which he is trying to get lower income people to contribute $5, $10 or $20 to for his “possible” re-election. Out of this money he pays himself an EIGHT figure salary. What the idiots haven’t figured out is they’re paying Trump a salary to rip them off. That’s how stupid they are.
fredk3
he seems lost and appears to be an attention hound with mental issues.
Mehki
Trump wouldn’t allow MAGAts anywhere near one of his properties, even to clean the rooms and scrub the toilets. He imports Mexicans do that and imports Europeans to serve, because as he says, Americans are fat, lazy, stupid, and got no class and Europeans know how to serve the elites.
Well, he’s half right.
GayEGO
I guess even gays can catch the Trumpavirus!
AxelDC
These gay Nazis should learn about Ernest Röhm, Hitler’s close friend and head of the Sturmabteilung. He was murdered during the Night of the Long Knives by other Nazi leaders to purge out the gays.
Kangol2
Yes, and Hitler specifically ordered that Röhm be brutally murdered to take him out as a rival and show his power and dominance over the SA. Gay people who worship the Nazis seem to forget not only the Röhm story but also how Hitler and Nazis put gay men and lesbians in jail and in concentration camps (remember the pink triangle).
WashDrySpin
Many gay white men are EXTREMELY dangerous, racist and problematic…many have been as isolated as their straight counterparts when it comes to social interactions and the acquisition of wealth…they use both of these to insulate themselves from being in a diverse world
ptn2719
THIS is why I’m not planning for a post-pandemic world. There are entirely too many stupid people who won’t do one simple thing to bring COVID to an end. Things may get better, but this isn’t going to end, folks.
Personally, I think when my 3 year old niece is 90, we’ll still be living in COVIDland…
Bob
I think that over time, the virus will get smarter. Our vaccines will only work for a while. This may be the end of an evolutionary mistake that has been happening for thousands of years. We’re just dinosaur 2.0 anyway. try again..
RandomGuy
Any gay that is a Qanut or a Republican in general needs to be shunned like the traitors to gay rights that they are.
fur_hunter
I totally agree. Also, any gay that goes to or supports the intolerant and bigoted Baptist church.
Steven
Trumpism is a cult.
Cult /kelt/ a misplaced or excessive admiration for a particular person or thing. “a cult of personality surrounding the leaders” synonyms: obsession with, fixation on, mania for, passion for; idolization of, admiration for, etc
Ginger Tom
I don’t see that Trumpism makes any sense to anyone who is not at heart a racist. Trump gives permission for average White Americans, and their fellow travellers, to hate those with whom they do not identify. Trumpism says, “it’s OK to bring to the surface the most deeply unpleasant side of your nature which everyone else tells you to hide, repress or otherwise overcome. You can be this person and there will be no disapproval, retribution or punishment from MAGAworld, only congratulation.”
trojanboy
Yeah, sadly, being gay dosent mean you can’t be an ass-hole.
Mack
Agree.
Prax07
Yeah these morons need to have some sort of mental illness to believe anything qanon related. You’d really have to be sick in the head because it’s all so obviously fictitious. And all the talk on the media about treating them with dignity and respect while trying to change their views. Hogwash. Tell the idiots they’re batshit crazy and to GTFO with their insane views. Time to put an end to this coddling behavior with them.
bivector
It’s such a short step from “no fats, no fems, no blacks, no Asians” to “there are Jewish space lasers.” Stop having sex with these people before they reach their final form.
ScottOnEarth
It’s simply mass brainwashing – ignoring the facts that are right in front of their faces and choosing to believe absolutely insane and illogical conspiracy theories. The fact that such a large number of Americans truly believe this insanity is frightening – gay or otherwise.
xtian2020
LGBTQ+ Trumpers/QAnon zealots are likely dominated by white cis gay men, though there are queer women, trans folks, and BIPOC among them, too. The fact is, we’re three-dimensional people & therefore just as capable of suffering from delusions as white & cishet folks are. While it shouldn’t be a surprise that there are queer folks who value whatever privilege they have more than their commitment to everyone in our community, more than their sense of self-worth or dignity as queer people -it’s still frustrating & bittersweet. Their classism, racism, misogyny, transphobia, and/or xenophobia feeds their cult-like devotion to QAnon & Trump.
Oh, well, never mind the bollocks, let’s work to make sure that their lies, distortions, delusions, and self-hate don’t result in the re-election of Trump in 2024 or any other right-wing anti-queer Republicans at the local, state, and national levels, in any election year. Vote!!!
Gary Q VV
Hey XTIAN2020 – Your comment sums up an accurate insight of this quite whirling phenomenon of these little lost Queer sheep defacing our community. We must “Fight-The-Power” before QueerAnon (a subset of QAnon focusing on a pro-Trump agenda) becomes a full-fledged ‘pandemic’ itself (it’s already spread to the UK, France, Germany, and Japan-JAnon).
——————
PS:
We Queers must always remember our golden rule which must be done step by step: “from Community Power comes Constitutional Equality, only then comes our ultimate goal of Freedom, then, over time, comes a majority of Social Acceptance”.
cuteguy
It’s no coincidence that the many who subscribe to this insanity are also religious who in general are cult driven. Ppl have to separate God (or a higher power, the universe, etc) from these cults aka religion. Religion is the foundation of what has brought us to today. Religion segregates ppl, which in turn is what helped to create the GQP
Ronbo
It’s deeper than just the right. Remember when Hillary claimed that Russians hacked the election? NSA Scientists argued that the ability to hack the DNC for that volume of data over that time was and is scientifically impossible.
Most partisan were swayed instead by 17 agencies (actually just three) who confirmed “It is our belief that Russia hacked the DNC”. “Belief” trumped scientific fact.
Question Authority, power is addicting.
Kangol2
The Russians did interfere extensively in the 2016 election. The bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee AND the Mueller Report’s Part 1 both detailed numerous contacts, some still unexplained, between the Don the Con campaign and various Russian entities. In addition to US intelligence agencies, a number of US ally intelligence agencies, including those of the Netherlands, UK, Germany, Latvia, Ukraine, etc. shared information on Russian attempts to hack or otherwise interfere in the 2016 election. There was no “Russian hoax,” just like there was no “Covid-19 hoax”; in both cases, the real story has been far worse than our sorry US media have been able to convey. Q-Anon has been a deliberate attempt to divert attention away from the corrupt monster Don the Con and his crimes, and rewrite the story so that he is a hero. Even his close association with notorious pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, who died in Don the Con’s federal prison, gets erased by the Q crowd. Meanwhile, Ghislaine Maxwell admitted that yes, Epstein had tapes of Don the Con, though she claims she doesn’t know where they are. Hmmm.
BaltoSteve
Ok, take two as I await moderation that never comes. So the breakdown would be: White Dude faces real consequences for his actions. Is hurt and angry that he has been punished for what he did. Decides that it’s unfair that he should have to be held accountable. Decides to follow another White Dude with a fake tan who tells him it’s not his fault and it is the fault of {insert marginalized group here}. Decides that sounds about right and starts to believe every word that comes out of Orange dude’s mouth, as well as the negative comments about those who oppose Orange dude. Keeps going further and further down the rabbit hole until he is the token even though Orange dude is more interested in himself than helping anyone else and supporting Orange dude is against his interests as a human. Sounds a variation on a theme.
joeboyle49
WHAT I DON’T UNDERSTAND IS HOW BCAN ANY BODY FROM THE LGBTQ COMMUNITY BE FOR A PERSON WHO HAS COMPLETLY STRIPED US OF ALL OUR RIGHTS AND YET YOU STILL BACK THE HOMOPHOBIC NUT HEAD???
OhHellNo
Not surprising. The first time I heard the term “QAnon” was over a decade ago. It’s what my friend called his gay-AA group…..