The Third Muslim: Queer and Trans* Muslim Narratives of Resistance and Resilience (The Third Muslim) opened at SOMArts Cultural Center on January 25, 2018. The exhibit highlights the work of queer and trans* Muslim artists, activists and thinkers from around the world and creates a platform for self-representation. The show is co-curated and organized by Bay Area-based writer and activist Yas Ahmed and Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, a teacher and visual/performance artist.
Zulfikar:
When I was a young queer artist (and before I even had that kind of vocabulary) growing up in Karachi, Pakistan, I would often dream of a future world in which queerness and trans-ness would not only be accepted but celebrated in my faith and culture. When I started using art as a tool of expression I began searching the internet for artists who were working in similar themes.
I was convinced for a very long time that nobody was really listening; our issues were not relevant enough for a society that just wanted the next big story. Needless to say, it has been overwhelming to see the incredible response to the show, from local press like SF Chronicle and KQED to write-ups by Afropunk and a mention New York Times.
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Our intentions were not only to start a dialogue but to also change the tone of another pre-existing one, a conversation that framed Islam and queerness as being oppositional, you can only be queer or Muslim. Unfortunately, some–not all–of the press around this show reveals that people are still stuck on the initial premise that queer Muslims exist in the first place. We have had to clarify again and again leading questions that ask if we are all frightened people, rebelling against our cultures, traditions and faiths. As if somehow we must be grateful to the fact that we live in this country.
The show welcomes all perspectives on the intersections of queerness and Islam, as long as it is by those invested and involved in the conversation. Islam is spiritual, political and multicultural and being a practicing Muslim in the United States is in itself an act of defiance and resistance against a system that vilifies us at every level. When we speak of resistance and resilience in our title, we speak not of resistance against our own peoples – though the conversation does involve them too – we speak of resistance to the United States of America and its wars in our homelands, the wars that forced us and our families here. We are resilient in the face of policies that make life difficult for Muslim bodies, queer bodies, trans bodies, femme bodies, bodies of color, and those that inhabit all of the above.
Yas:
I often like to say that queer and trans* Muslims are on the margins of the margins. We’re the in-between, the outside of, existing within understandings of Islam as monolithic, of queerness as white or western or cisgender or able-bodied, of Muslim as other — we exist in this third space, in our full dignity and power. What I appreciate about the stories and work in this particular exhibition is that sometimes we are called upon to question who the outsider is in this conversation.
Whose gaze defines or prevails?
What does it mean to be looked back at by someone often rendered invisible?
If art does its job, the “movement” is to become irresistible, right? In that way, this exhibition is overdue as far as the public platform it provides. As healer and writer Adrienne Marie Brown shared some time ago, things aren’t new, they’re just becoming uncovered. These things–Islamophobia, racism, anti-Blackness, gender-based oppression–are not new for our communities. Neither is survival or the complex ways we heal and sustain ourselves and each other, including building community and creating socially-engaged art. So, when a practical opportunity arose for us to help shape a platform of what some of those stories of resistance have been, currently are–unveiling a range of what it even means to be queer, trans* and Muslim-identified these days–we jumped on it.
Zulfikar and I both believe that it is the job of artists to reflect the times. With The Third Muslim, however, we wanted to do more than that. We wanted to both pay homage to our collective past and reflect the present so that we can reimagine the future.
That is what this exhibition is about–honoring legacy and archive, and building a queer and trans* Muslim revolution–all through storytelling and art.
The closing performance and reception for The Third Muslim — Coming Out Muslim: Radical Acts of Love — is Saturday, February 17th at SOMArts in San Francisco. The exhibition of fifteen different artists dealing with themes of diaspora, displacement and hyphenated identities – is up through February 22nd.
Check out some more work from the collection below:
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Kangol
Great post, refreshing read!
ChrisK
Just to let you know anything less then great praise for Islam is not allowed on Queerty and your comments will be deleted.
mhoffman953
@ChrisK
I’m glad both sides of the political spectrum can see this
Xzamilloh
Yes, I’m quite sick of the double standard myself… trash Christianity but give fawning praise to an equally wacky religion like Islam. I do like the art, though. But the concept is exhausting.
Ummmm Yeah
Mine was. They are complicit in the muslim genocide of gays all around the world just like the rest of the former gay media.
Bob LaBlah
It won’t be long before every major paper in the country eliminates their comment sections. A few (NYDaily news and the NYPost) no longer have comment sections and the NYDailyNews will only allow subscribers to read their article at the end of the month. The L.A.Times now only allow subscribers to comment. The NYTImes had eliminated their comment section but so many people stopped going to their website it finally dawned on them it they had better restore it or else lose it all. I can no longer comment on the Miami Herald because I will not rejoin Facebook because of their (Facebook) demand that you post a pic of yourself with your Facebook page. What does that sound like to you guys? Apparently all comments have to be able to be traced or else you don’t comment if you asked me.
dwes09
Right! Because there are clearly no anti-Muslim comments here.
Please re-connect with reality.
And did you even read the article?
Where exactly is there any great praise for Islam in it?
Where EXACTLY has Queerty ever expressed “great praise” for Islam?
Nothing as odd and delusional as the regressive mindset where fantasy and imagination are more real than reality.
mhoffman953
3 of my comments in this thread have been removed
None of them used name calling, none of them used vulgar words, none of them were off topic.
I guess ChrisK was right
mhoffman953
@BobLaBlah
It’s because the mainstream media doesn’t want people to discuss topics. They want you to accept what they tell you without fact checking, difference of opinions in the comment section, or introducing people to new ideas.
Nearly every major news website has eliminated their comments section. IMDB closed down their forums. How can people support the first amendment and listen to each other if websites eliminate comment sections, remove comments they disagree with, or ban people from posting because they don’t like that person’s opinion
Stilinski26
exactly these writers and bloggers mock gay Christians and gay conservatives on daily basis but they will embrace gay Muslims and Islam lol may be we should buy them on way ticket to the middle east to experience first class hospitality probably end up in roof tops though
Paco
Why not just reject your religious brainwashing? The human brain is capable of so much more than belief in fictions that have miraculously ceased to make an appearance since those stories were imagined and passed down. Except in the minds of those that hear voices and need to control the lives of others with supernatural dogma.
Xzamilloh
Religious nonsense is religious nonsense, regardless of how you reconcile it with reality. Islam wrapped in contradictory BS is just a more confusing brand of a rigid archaic belief system that has no place in the modern world. Because you know what happens to religion when it gets modernized? It becomes platitudes you can find in any self-help book and doesn’t leave you with the needless baggage of adhering to an unprovable sky being.
Polaro
I hope this helps change some minds for the better, but I do worry for them. Islam is not friendly to the LGBT people QWEERTY represents. Facts matter. Christianity isn’t great for us either, but it is not as horrific by a long shot. Love Muslims, not a fan of Islam. That’s my opinion and I matter too.
dwes09
Even many sects of Buddhism (which does not even have an actual deity) are unfriendly to gay and lesbian people. However religion appears to be almost hard wired into the human psyche, and in our past had a huge role in the formation of ethics even if it has outlived its usefulness to a certain extent.
Reform and Reconstructionist Judaism, United Church of Christ and a few other Christian sects are very friendly to gay and lesbian people and still serve a purpose in the creation of cohesive, progressive communities.
People paint us with a broad brush and look at LGBT issues as entirely black and white, it behooves us to know better.
Bob LaBlah
I have been out of the closet more years than the majority of you reading this are old and I also am an etched in granite atheist. That notwithstanding I stand shoulder to shoulder with orthodox muslims, jews (except mhoffman953 in most cases) christians, Hindu’s and the like when they speak out against atrocious acts such as this. This is just disgusting and shows just how low on the totem pole the west has become in some instances.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/transgender-woman-breastfeeds-baby-documented-case-article-1.3823601
mhoffman953
@BobLaBlah
I’m not Jewish in all cases, not just most cases. Never was Jewish nor do I have any family members who are Jewish
Notright
I’m sorry but this is nonsense. Islam and homosexuality are like oil and water. https://www.therainbowright.com/islam-not-compatible-with-gay-life/ I wish people understood that more.
dwes09
I wish people were smart enough to understand the right is playing l&g people like a fiddle. The rainbow right will still be licking the ass of the regressives even if marriage rights, employment rights, and other hard fought rights are undermined. It was not the right that fought for them, it is not the right that values them.
Islam has had no reformation as Christianity has, but the evangelicals and fundamentalists would still be fine if we were to be stoned for our sins! But that’s ok keep your head in the sand, you comprise less than 15% of us at this point, so the damage you can do is limited.
And that article you link to? Plays rather fast and free with the truth. One example is the claim about women and Clinton. Here’s the truth. Overall, 54% of women voted for Clinton, much higher than the 42% of women who voted for Trump. But when the women’s vote is divided by race, it becomes clear that black women actually largely drove the so-called gender gap against Trump.
The majority of non-college educated white women (64%) voted for Trump, while 35% backed Clinton. This figure is far higher than non-college educated black women, of which only 3% voted for Trump, and non-college educated Hispanic women, of which 25% voted for Trump. Your source clearly does not see black women as counting fully, nor those have a higher education. Not going to bother with the other fictions. Though the main one, that the right is inclusive, is pretty obvious both from their demographic and from their agenda.
dwes09
In the real world the treatment of homosexuality varies from country to country. One is not necessarily (nor even commonly) put to death for being homosexual in majority Muslim countries.
In this country the popular treatment of homosexuals varies from region to region, regardless of the law. Hate crimes against our community are on the rise as they are against other minorities since the emergence of the alt-right. And it was not so long ago that a man was chained to the tailgate of a truck and dragged to his death for being gay here in the US.
The cowardly trash are not those who confront their ethnic origins with real understanding of them, but those who deny reality in favor of willful ignorance.
samuel88
I feel bad queer muslim in the Islam countries. They usual get punish to harsh prison or death. Please support gay muslim refugees.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_in_Islam
Hussain-TheCanadian
What a beautiful article, I’m really happy to see many Gay Muslims expressing themselves openly and freely, and are not ashamed to show a side of themselves as intimate as being displayed above. These displays of religious devotionalism mixed in with the gay identity is really beautiful to watch, and it takes away the very weapon bigots, extremists, and idiots use against the gay Muslim community, a community that needs a lot of love, support, and exposure.
Some of the comments above are not surprising, just idiotic hatred, ignorance, and a chance to trash Islam regardless of the context. Islam is the 2nd largest religion on the planet, and apparently, within the next 30 years, will be the largest; it is to our benefit as gay people to influence the Muslim populations everywhere, not by attacking their faith, but by using their faith to change their minds.
Paco
It is the responsibility for those of us with evolved brains, to help those that are suffering from fantastical delusions, to join the rest of the species that, somehow, have the ability to reject belief in centuries old myths and have no desire to have their lives ruled by the beliefs of long dead primitive societies.
Hussain-TheCanadian
@Paco
The nonsense you wrote above has nothing to do with reality; who imposed their religious beliefs on you?
Besides this discussion has nothing to do with mythology being fact or fiction; what you are displaying is the very hubris you’re accusing believers of, making me wonder what kind of a supposed evolved mind would rather to antagonize than enlighten.
@Hoffman
Yes indeed I support the cutting off of hands of theives, in particular wall street theives and business tycoons who destroyed the American economy and ruined millions of lives.
You prefer the alternative that took place? Giving them trillions as if nothibg has happened?
SiamSam
@Hussain-TheCanadian “It is to our benefit as gay people to influence the Muslim populations everywhere, not by attacking their faith, but by using their faith to change their minds.”
But their/your faith says homosexuality is punishable by death.
https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/homosexuality.aspx
There’s really no getting around this.
PRINCE OF SNARKNESS aka DIVKID
“Yes indeed I support the cutting off of hands of theives”
Jesus. Tell me your joking? If you support this kind of religiously proscribed punishment then what moral stance can you to attack the grave punishments for blasphemy and apostasy? Or do you actually support them? Your medieval limb-chopping advocacy gives me pause. I think I’ve seriously misjudged your liberal bonafides. I think I can already intuit your stance on the death penalty, which to many (including the European Union) is inimical to any truly civilised progressive society (yes that’s an implied criticism of parts of USA too — typically most vocally supported by religious nutters of the Christian Right; but, crucially, equally as strongly opposed by other Christian groups). You are the supposed to be the liberal face of Islam, right?
mhoffman953
@dwes09
You always deflect and refuse to criticize Islam in a blog post entirely about Islam. Instead, you’ll play mental gymnastics and bring up several whataboutisms so that you don’t have to cast Islam in a negative light.
I can’t seem to find the story you mentioned about a gay man being dragged by a truck to his death. I did find a story similar where the perpetrator of the crime was issued the death penalty and ultimately executed for his crimes.
That is the difference between this nation and a Muslim majority nation. In the US, you will be punished for killing someone but in most Muslim majority nations, killing someone can be considered an honor killing where you’ll face no punishment.
If you want to attack Christianity, fine, but you’re fooling yourself when you act like Islam is not way worse.
Hussain-TheCanadian
@Paco
Your hubris is disgusting, and no different than religious believers who view you with the same amount of scorn and condescension as you do them.
If your above response is an example of your “evolved brain” then I fear for the world, for mentalities like yours will lead us directly into the abyss.
P.S.
Shut up hoffman; you shouldn’t even be talking because you barely have enough chromosomes to make anything you say coherent or intelligent.
mhoffman953
@Hussain-TheCanadian
Ah, so when you can’t create a coherent or intelligent response to me, you respond by mocking the mentally handicapped and then accuse me of not being coherent or intelligent.
You aren’t setting a good example for Islam, Hussain. Tsk tsk
I stand by my original comment that you support cutting off people’s hands if they steal and have defended parts of Sharia Law.
Paco
Yes it’s disgusting how believers of centuries old myths force their beliefs on others. As if the myths should be law and used to subjugate any group the believers don’t like. Forcing small children to be indoctrinated into believing ancient myths as fact is very disgusting too. And if they grow up to see the myths as only myths and nothing more, they get punished and ostracized because the myths call for it. Laws even get passed to force the ancient mythical beliefs on others. Really disgusting and must be pushed back against. If you want to believe in myths, good for you. Keep it to yourself and out of the laws I am subject to. There will never be any “compromise” for my right to live my life free from religious control and tyranny.
Hussain-TheCanadian
@@Paco – I responded above.
Paco
Hey I just want to be free from religious influence. I am not tossing religious people from rooftops, or refusing to bake them cakes, or trying to pass hundreds of laws in an attempt to make them invisible and second class citizens, or imprisoning them, or advocating for morality police armed with sticks to beat people that violate their religious rules, or deny them protections from being refused employment, housing, or healthcare.
Everything I listed is what gay people suffer from at the hands of the religious people in power across the world. The same religious people that maintain their power because of all the complicit “moderates” that look away silently and allow those things to happen. Their faiths deserve to be attacked and confronted if they are going to prop up leaders that use the religion as a justifiable excuse to harm others. When the majority of the followers of the world’s main religions gleefully quote the death to gays parts of their holy texts, you think we should sit back and play nice and hope they will just suddenly ignore those parts and leave us alone? Really? The day I see “loving” religious people publicly rebuking the hardliners for all to see and when I see hardline religious people lose elections because voters of faith choose their “loving” faith over hate, then I may feel like a dialogue can happen.
SiamSam
“Islam is spiritual, political and multicultural and being a practicing Muslim in the United States is in itself an act of defiance and resistance against a system that vilifies us at every level.”
Yet this horrible oppressive system lets you stage an art exhibition without incident or censure that would be banned in your homelands. So why are you in the USA then?
“When we speak of resistance and resilience in our title, we speak not of resistance against our own peoples – though the conversation does involve them too – we speak of resistance to the United States of America and its wars in our homelands, the wars that forced us and our families here. ”
I get that. The endless wars have to stop. But why didn’t you escape to another Western country that was a lot closer and wasn’t responsible for any those destructive and immoral wars?
In fact, why didn’t you flee to another more culturally compatible Muslim country that was more open and free and not ravaged by war. They do exist….don’t they?
StupidBoy
You all act like you don’t know any gay Catholics who stay in the church “for the pomp and circumstance” or haven’t sucked off the choir director for the Black Baptist Church in town. Religion is the enemy, but gay Muslims are not. They need our support just like gay atheists, gay Baptists, gay Eccumenicals, and whoever else chooses to stay in their religion, but is trying to come out. Befriend Muslims and let them see you aren’t the enemy. Befriend gay Muslims and let them know there is a place in the world outside of Islam if they so choose. Befriend gay Catholics who are too afraid to leave the church because of their extended families. Be a fucking gay community instead of being bitchy and arrogant and uppity. Find commonalities with people instead of finding ways to tear them down and demean them. FFS there are homeless gay teenagers that have been disowned by their families and have to live on the street turning tricks and you fucks want to demean everyone else because you wouldn’t invite them to Mimosas and quiche for Sunday brunch. We are stronger as a community and diversity, not weaker for it.
Cylest Brooks
Just a heads up, Queerty changed it’s comment policy on 3/14/2018. This comment would be deleted under the new comment policy, so make sure you give it a read. We value your opinion, and we definitely want you to continue commenting!
https://www.queerty.com/queertys-comment-policy
Hussain-TheCanadian
@Paco
I can’t speak for every Muslim country, or any “religious population” for that matter, all I can do is assess the situation and come up with ways and strategies to push back against the extremist, fascistic, and ignorant elements within Muslim societies. There societies for the most part are not free in anyway, and government suppression is rampant on every sociological level.
We on the other hand are relatively free, and our display of our humanity, success, love, and reason against the very biblical texts that were used to oppress the western gay community, is what flipped the majority of Christians to our aid and became our allies.
We can do the same with all of the Muslim communities around the globe. This is how we enforce our humanity, and actually win. If we take your approach and display hubris, hostility, and scorn to a community of 1.7 billion people, we are not going to achieve anything.
Besides, why hasn’t your evolved brain has come up with ways to free you of any religious influence within your own society? Isn’t your approach working or what?
Paco
My approach is to not give any validity to any religious argument against my equal rights. It would be like giving a belief in Disney fairytales validity. All the “scorn” they receive from gay people is self-inflicted and deserved. I would argue that they have nothing to cry about if all they are getting in return is some “scorn”, compared to what they do, or try to do! to gay people where politics are concerned.
I’m really not sure why you seem to be offended by my pointing out that brains that aren’t stuck on centuries old, supernatural beliefs that belong to ancient societies must be a bit more evolved. How is it that some brains can so easily dismiss religion no matter how much childhood brainwashing or societal pressure and religious abuse was inflicted upon them? There must be a measurable difference there in the gray matter.
Paco
Oh, and I don’t know if you have noticed or not, but I have not singled out Muslims. I’m including all the wonderful anti-gay religions of hate that have no place in modern society.
PRINCE OF SNARKNESS aka DIVKID
The censorship on this particular thread has been the most craven illiberal thing I’ve ever witnessed on this site and is very instructive
Stilinski26
lol what nonsense is this. you can stop this propaganda
Brody
You’d expect better? C’mon, Queerty’s gotta Queerty, and that means praising anyone/anything that views America/Americans (i.e., western civilization) as evil oppressors.
Hussain-TheCanadian
@PRINCES OF SNAKINESS
Two points:
1) why did you take my words out of context? Indeed I support the hand chopping of theives, with certain conditions, I discussed those conditions with hoffman on another thread. When theives in suites destroy lives, steal from millions, destroy the economy, and then demand to be bailed out, yes I so support that those monsters deserve to have their hands chopped off.
2) I am against apostasy laws of any kind, those laws were devised by clerics loyal to the court of the early Caliphs and has no basis in the Qur’an. I believe people have the right to believe, or not believe, in whatever they want.
I don’t understand why my stance on the conduct of theives gives you pause; it seems we have become so weak and feeble as westerners that we began to equate inaction with civilisation.
PRINCE OF SNARKNESS aka DIVKID
“@PRINCES OF SNAKINESS” Damn. So it’s come to that? Lol. Never mind.
1) Your context is clear: you believe in medieval bloodthirsty retribution for THEFT (I don’t care how you justify it by reference to scale), and your ultimate context would appear to be a religiously mandated one. A punishment that once meted admits of no possibility of remedy for miscarriages of justice (save for lizards who can regrow limbs — I trust even *you* don’t believe in trying animals like we used to in the medieval West) No civilised person believes in this. No civilised legal system enforces this or has done anything comparable to this for centuries.
In light of the preceding forgive me if I’m skeptical about your stated position re #2
You’re not who I thought you were. Oh well.
Peace
Hussain-TheCanadian
@paco
What offended me is your hubris; your condescension of other human beings is alarming, and it doesn’t come off as a communication style used by someone who claims to be intellectually superior.
Hussain-TheCanadian
@Brody
The American government, along with the theives and war mongers that support It, do not in any way represent Western Civilization in any way.
Maybe the American empire needs to stop bombing Muslim countries and prop up Muslim dictators, and leave these people alone to decide their own fate.
This requires an informed and engaged American citizenry who are aware of what their government is doing, and if you Brody is an example of those American citizens, then I’m not shocked that your empire still limps on.
Brody
Tell you what—we’ll stop bombing them when they stop attacking innocent westerners, deal?
Kangol
@Brody, you’ve got it exactly the opposite. The US was bombing predominantly Muslim countries before they were attacking innocent westerners. Just look at history. Outside the Palestinians, who committed hijackings and attacks primarily because of the ongoing crisis with Israel, the US and most Western countries were not targeted for attacks by Muslims before the 1980s. Since 1980 alone (one could easily go back further), the US has been engaged in wars, directly or by proxy, in Afghanistan, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, Niger, Pakistan, Palestinian Territories, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, and Yemen. (This does not count the US’s intervention in non-Muslim countries over that same period, including Grenada, Haiti, Nigeria, Venezuela, etc., or the long history of invasions and interventions in countries across the globe.) There was no reason whatsoever to launch the Iraq War, after having supported the destructive Iran-Iraq War and the successful Gulf War, yet the US did so, causing incalculable destruction and disruption. Iraq did not attack the US on 9/11; it was Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda, yet the US did not go after Saudi Arabia, the source of most of the 9/11 territorists. This country knocked out the major counterweight to Iran; it unleashed the worst elements in Iraq; it destabilized the entire region, including Turkey, and left Jordan and Lebanon in a very precarious position; etc. That is only one example. Please, read some history and wake up.
Bob LaBlah
@ol’Brody……………….your comments made me laugh and as they say a little music always calms the nerves. lol lol lol lol
@Kangol……………..try as he might he will never be more white and christian as these people in the video. Try not to notice the few……..well, anyway, just sit back and enjoy the music and think about ol’ Brody and his comments. lol lol lol lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSiVjlknuSw
Bob LaBlah
Hussain I’m sorry I forgot to add you in the comment with the video but I’m sure you will get the idea (and be sure to sit you glass of egg nog down and away from you computer before viewing it). I didnt see one of your kind………….as I said, just view and enjoy it. lol lol lol
Hussain-TheCanadian
@Prince of Snarkiness
I’m sorry I didn’t mean to type snakiness, I blame auto correct (blows kiss)
1) Yeah you’re right, in some cases, I do believe that chopping off hands, for certain theft crimes is appropriate. A medieval practice or not is besides the point; some theives are being redemption and their crime against their society must be met by this form of retribution.
I am an open book, I have never misrepresented my views on this site to anyone, and my liberal views are not informed by mediocrity or blind following of my leftist ideals. You expecting me to be a copy of you is not realistic Prince; prison is too good and too light for some thieves.
PRINCE OF SNARKNESS aka DIVKID
“I’m sorry I didn’t mean to type snakiness, I blame auto correct (blows kiss)”
Phew! I’m glad we cool. Ive always liked you. I’m just really REALLY genuinely shocked YOU would hold a position like this..not exactly the most “liberal view” to say the least lol. We’ll have to agree to difffer by A LOT on this one. (But I hope you’ll give it more thought. I don’t believe Human Rights is about a clash of civilisations, western imperialism, or nececsarally intrinsically Western at all, depite too many bad actors and apologists eager to frame it thus, as cover for inhumane and illiberal actions )
No need to respond. I can see you got your work cut out. Don’t exhaust yourself!
Hussain-TheCanadian
Some thieves are beyond redemption**
GayEGO
I have no problem with any religion as long as they are loving and inclusive. The negative, hateful doctrines should be discarded as they have no place in humanity.
Hussain-TheCanadian
@Brody
Your knowledge of the American government’s involvement in the Muslim world is pretty weak, and it seems to me you’re not aware what were the reasons behind why Osama Bin Laden orchestrated the attacks on 911.
I can point you to some good books you can read if you truelly care about the well-being of Westerners or our western civilization.
Brody
Defending the 9/11 murderers now, are you?
Congratulations, your reputation just took a nose-dive from loopy liberal to full-blown terrorist sympathizer.
Luna1979
“As if somehow we must be grateful to the fact that we live in this country.”
You’re not?? Why do you live here, then? If you can be out and proud in Karachi, why aren’t you?
My family fled the Middle East twice; WWI and the Lebanese Civil War saw the rest run. My family’s village was burnt down and the inhabitants beheaded because they were Christian. I’ve been around Muslim countries a lot in my life and have never seen one which doesn’t attack gays if given the chance. I applaud the celebration of queerness among Muslims and hope the violence will ever cease. But you are a gay Muslim living in SF. I would be happy to afford to even visit, so yea…you are very lucky!!!
PRINCE OF SNARKNESS aka DIVKID
Preach! (or rather don’t lol ). Their cognitive dissonance mostly fuelled by a toxic mixture of survivor guilt (from the fate of other “queers”), deflection, and failed Marxist dogma