“I love black men.” “I love black c*ck.” “I’m dying to try black.”
Platitudes like this, Jeremy Helligar says, have “become the bane of my gay existence, words I’ve come to expect every time I log onto a dating/hook-up app.”
In a new op-ed, Helligar shares a screenshot of an actual message he received on Scruff:
“Usually, the sender is white or Asian, but occasionally he’s Latino, Middle Eastern, or some other racial/ethnic qualifier besides black,” Helligar writes. “I guess the authors of said sentiments expect me to be grateful I’ve gotten their attention.”
But don’t expect him to jump for joy. Why not? Because, Helligar says, commenting on his race isn’t a compliment.
He explains:
Yes, I may be black, but I’m also gay and tall and American. Oh, and I’m a man. If someone says, “I love American men,” or, simply, “I love men,” I wouldn’t automatically accept it as a personal compliment. Should I? My skin color, like my sexual orientation, my height, my nationality, or a woman’s age, might help categorize me, but it’s too broad to define me or even describe me in any specific, meaningful way. In the context of Grindr/Scruff, “I love black men/c*ck” is gratuitous and pointless. If someone messages me, he obviously like what he sees. Does it really matter how he feels about black in general?
Helligar says he’d much rather be singled out for qualities that don’t have anything to do with his race–his eyes, his smile, his wit, his sense of humor, that sorta thing. Anything but the color of his skin.
Helligar continues:
If I were white and someone said, ‘I like white men,’ would anyone expect me to take that as personal flattery and be grateful? That’s a rhetorical question. The general consensus is that there’s too much variety among men of European descent for one “compliment” to apply to them all.
But when you’re black, or Asian, you’re presumably interchangeable with all other black or Asian men. You get lumped in with everyone in your ethnic demo, for better (“Black don’t crack,” “Black guys are hung,” etc.) or for worse (“All black men are dangerous,” “I’m not attracted to Asian men,” etc.). Either way, we lose, because we lose our individuality. We merely represent the group and vice-versa. It’s like whoever is doing the stereotyping, or the “complimenting,” hasn’t seen anything beyond color and ethnicity.
“I’ve accepted that most people will never look at me and not see my skin color first and foremost,” Helligar concludes. “But in these Trump-ed-up times … it’s even more important for us all to be mindful of the implications of what we say and what we write, even when we’re horny and not necessarily thinking straight (no pun intended).”
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surreal33
If this only occurred on sleazy sex sites it would be simple stop trolling for dick online.
I have witnessed men clearly state their desire for “Mandingo” face to face and actually have the unmitigated gall to expect a positive response.
Men without melanin are culturally conditioned to believe they are superior and it is a privilege to be desired by them.
When men without melanin behave like this it actually makes life easier as they have made it crystal clear whom to avoid.
pudman56
Um, all people have melanin, even Albinos. Even this (me) white guy who gets his color from his Polish, German and Irish blood in him. So I don’t know what planet the men you’ve met without melanin came from, but I’d watch out.
Danny595
You may have heard comments like that IRL, but I guaranty you that the guys who talk like that have all spent lots of time hooking up and cruising, online and off. Over time, a promiscuous life changes you and how you relate to sex and potential sex partners. When loveless sex becomes their norm, they can’t be cold-hearted, acquisitive hookup players online and then “turn it off” IRL. Because “trolling for d” becomes real life.
Also, it should be noted that those kinds of comments can be directed to any person of any racial or ethnic group by anyone from any racial or ethnic group. The issue isn’t the color of the speaker, but the deadening of his humanity.
ChrisK
Shut the eff up with all this BS racist crap. I’m 50 and get hit up with the daddy now from the youngers. Not my thing but it is what it is and I don’t get all prissy about it.
I wouldn’t want you just because I’d have to walk on eggshelves constantly so not to offend your delicate cry baby self.
PinkoOfTheGange
So you have never said any thing about those damn kids with daddy issues?* The only difference is this guy penned a bad essay that got published here.
*Oh wait you just did.
Danny595
You’re 50 and you don’t know that the word is eggshell.
Brian
I’m a redhead and I got a lot of that in my younger days, before the grey dulled it out. There is a small, but loyal group who just LOVE their redheads. Can’t say I loved guys telling me that, but if they did open by objectifying me, I just dealt with it accordingly. I didn’t feel the need to take it as a personal affront. Gay men can be jerks about so many superficial things, that’s just one on a long list we all have to deal with.
surreal33
Mr Chris K I am not going to waste time justifying my views on racism.
I will be succinct and state FU*K YOU, you clueless, trite, jackass!!!
ChrisK
Yeah because attacking others with name calling is a great way to get your point across. Eyeroll..
Just like the blogger (probably one in the same) if you can’t find it you’ll make it up just for the drama.
pudman56
And the perfect answer that would be.
pudman56
I think I clicked the wrong reply earlier. Anyway, my opinion on this being the perfect answer is in regard to yours, surreal33
pudman56
Just curious. Do you view that as the same as someone saying or checking men of color. I don’t mean African-American specific, I just think skin with color to it, black, Latino, etc., if far more appealing than the kind of white that my Polish, German and Irish blood has made me. Unfortunately I missed out on any olive tone from Italian. At the same time, I don’t make a decision on color, white is just as right for me as color.
surreal33
Mr Pudman 56 there is a monumental difference between finding a specific type of person attractive versus objectifying a person. If you don’t know the difference that is a personal issue that I can’t help you with.
ChrisK
“If I were white and someone said, ‘I like white men,’ would anyone expect me to take that as personal flattery and be grateful?”
I get that all the time and I’m flattered that they chose me as a representative of my race. I think it’s hot. No one is color blind and nor should they be. Are differences are what make us interesting.
pudman56
You, ChrisK, are just an idiot.
ChrisK
“I just think skin with color to it, black, Latino, etc., if far more appealing than the kind of white that my Polish, German and Irish blood has made me.”
Did you not just define certain races as better then the other? Maybe you should check your own deep racism before attacking others.
ChrisK
Your name is very on the nose.
Godabed
Dear lord, why don’t people know the difference between, Race, Ethnicity and Nationality. There is a clear difference between them which you don’t seem to get.
Read a book, or use the internet, they are not the same. You can be Black and from any nationality on this planet. There are Black Germans, Black Irish, Black Polish, Black latinos, Black Koreans, Black… There are Black hispanic people, which isn’t a race but an Ethnicity, Black Jewish People… etc.
Nationality: the status of belonging to a particular nation.
Ethnicity: the fact or state of belonging to a social group that has a common national or cultural tradition.
Race: When Applied to Humans, it ‘s referring to the color of one’s skin as the defining characteristic. however it’s been proven that race scientifically does not exist in Humans because we all originated from the same place, and have no real distinctive characteristic from each other be consider a different race.
markthehandyman
Is there a way to block people on Queerty?
richard2179
So what’s wrong with a little objectification? Never hurt anyone, right? The other day, I ordered a black man online. When he arrived, he turned out to be too human, without all the stereotypes I expected. Now I’m stuck having to deal with a real person. Next time I’ll order a daddy. But the bitch better not complain about low testosterone and needing reading glasses or I’ll him back too. Damn these human beings!
PinkoOfTheGange
giggle
Godabed
marry me. you can trade up your too human black, for a nerdy black, more Otaku than human. You may have to go to a Con at least once or twice a year to commune with my people, and see our native mating dance, and spiritual shapeshifting known to humans as COS-PLAY
He BGB
Wish people here would comment on the topic instead of each other. Would be much more interesting. And ignor the political crap. Nobody is going to change political parties because a troll said they should.
maxdadmark
If only.
Danny595
If you go on hookup apps where human beings are reduced to slabs of meat, don’t be surprised if you are evaluated like a slab of meat. When you buy meat at the butcher’s, you examine the color, size and texture of the meat. You don’t care about the personality or life story of the living thing which became the meat. If this seems degrading – and it is – then the solution is to stop wasting your life and your money on places where gay people treat each other like meat.
Kangol
As soon as I saw the headline I knew this was a Graham Gremore Queerty post. He regularly posts clickbait articles that inflame racial tension and depict people of color as sad, desperate and hungering for white people, or that focus on straight men. Please, people, stop taking the bait.