Bad humor

That time Donald Trump joked Mike Pence wants to ‘hang all the gays’

Mike Pence standing in front of a roomful of nooses waiting to hang the gays

The New Yorker just published a damning profile on Mike Pence and his relationship with Donald Trump, and it includes an alleged incident in which Trump “jokingly” said Pence wants to “hang all the gays.”

For the piece, the paper spoke to several White House insiders, including Trump’s former chief strategist Steve Bannon.

“Trump thinks Pence is great,” Bannon said.

Another source said the two men have a close “friendship” but that Trump gets his kicks “[letting] Pence know who’s boss.”

Related: Mike Pence just said he fully supports Trump’s racist comments, ‘I stand with the President’

The profile includes a detailed rundown of Pence’s past antigay actions, including the time he voted for the Marriage Protection Amendment in 2006, a law that would have banned same-sex marriage nationwide, calling it a means of enforcing “God’s idea” that being gay is a “choice,” as well as the time he voted against ENDA, a law to prohibit workplace discrimination based on sexual orientation, claiming it “wages war on freedom and religion in the workplace.”

But the most alarming part comes in an alleged conversation Trump and Pence had with a legal scholar on how they might roll back the rights of women and minorities.

Related: Mike Pence tweets that he wants a horse “inside” him and all of Twitter freaks out

The New Yorker reports:

During a meeting with a legal scholar, Trump belittled Pence’s determination to overturn Roe v. Wade. The legal scholar had said that, if the Supreme Court did so, many states would likely legalize abortion on their own. “You see?” Trump asked Pence. “You’ve wasted all this time and energy on it, and it’s not going to end abortion anyway.” When the conversation turned to gay rights, Trump motioned toward Pence and joked, “Don’t ask that guy—he wants to hang them all!”

Let’s take another look at that last part…

When the conversation turned to gay rights, Trump motioned toward Pence and joked, “Don’t ask that guy—he wants to hang them all!”

A recent survey conducted by Queerty’s sister site, LGBTQ Nation in conjunction with the polling firm SurveyMonkey, found that 45% of LGBTQ people feel as though they are treated differently because of their sexuality or gender identity since Trump took office.

Related: Mike Pence just tried to revise his history on HIV and conversion therapy — here’s the real story

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51 Comments

  • Kieran

    This why we need to impeach Trump so we can get President Pence!! #LeftistIdiots

    • Heywood Jablowme

      At least Pence wouldn’t start World War III over a tweet. So there’s that.

    • Alexis

      I guess you’re a rightist? What is a rightist?

    • Kangol

      Pence would be impeached too. As might be the case with Ryan. If we start down this road, some are suggesting that given the extent of Russian collusion, corruption involving several Cabinet secretaries, etc. we may end up with either President Hatch or President Mattis.

    • DCguy

      So the right wing troll response is “Don’t impeach Trump if it turns out he did commit treason against America because of the bigot he appointed VP”?

      Oh, by the way, they’re investigating Pence too, so no worries there.

    • GayEGO

      We do know that Mike Pence caved in on the anti-LGBT discrimination law when lawsuits and business boycotts in Indiana would cost Indiana a lot of money. We can handle Pence should/when Trump gets impeached!

  • leobaga

    “alleged”, “rumored”, “innuendos”, “Nazis”, typical Queerty. All fearmongering. Trump is a great man. If you actually watch his past interviews when he was still a democrat, you’d know that he loves gays. We can speak freely, we don’t get thrown off buildings, we’re not in prison. Gays can marry now, hold hands and kiss in public, can adopt and so many things. We’ve come a long way and we are not turning back. Stop the fear mongering. Trump can’t do anything, even if he appoints conservative judges. It’s not UNCONSTITUTIONAL to discriminate against gays. Live with it. It’s a beautiful life, a beautiful world. Stop the hate. #MAGA

    • leobaga

      *not CONSTITUTIONAL

    • Heywood Jablowme

      So if “Trump loves gays,” why did he choose such a deranged homophobe to be his VP?

    • ChrisK

      Will see. Interesting that’s he’s pushing through judges that are fine turning back progress though. What do you think is going to happen on a conservative majority Supreme Court?

    • adam_stevens

      Are these the thoughts and ideas of a serious man, or those of a fool?

    • Mack

      Spoken like a POS.

    • DCguy

      Oh wow, Mo Bro is bringing out the older screenames to franticly defend Trump here.

      So basically your comment is that everything is ok because Trump is merely lying to his voters and his base?

      Oh, and that you support bigotry. And hey, sweetie, since the Supreme Court SAID it’s unconstitutional to discriminate, then it IS unconstitutional.

      What a shock, a right wing Troll doesn’t understand Civics.

  • KaiserVonScheiss

    Sounds to me like Trump thinks Pence’s views are a little odd. Secondly is it was a joke at Pence’s expense.

    This is just more Trump Derangement Syndrome.

    • Brody

      Recall how they reacted the same toward Sarah Palin and grabbed at any straw they could to try to denigrate her? They just don’t get it that their childish actions paint them as the deranged ones, and not the other way around.

    • AJAnders

      Sarah Palin to this day cannot put coherent sentences together. She degraded herself every time she opened her mouth and attempted to use….words.

      That’s not grasping at straws. That laughing at a train wreck.

    • DCguy

      Kaiser and Brody (Mo Bro)

      If you want to make it less obvious that you’re the same person, you should probably stop supporting each others posts literally minutes apart every time you comment.

      As for Pence’s views. He had those views, very publicly when Trump picked him, in fact they were what he was most known for. So lets not pretend that Trump doesn’t support them.

  • leobaga

    Just so everybody knows, LGBTQ Nation bans Trump supporters. There’s no freedom of speech there so your “survey” is sooo inaccurate.

    • Brody

      Color me shocked.

    • Alexis

      Why do Trump supporters even frequent LGBTQ nation?

    • KaiserVonScheiss

      Yep. They allow commenters to flag other commenters for ‘hate speech.’ Truth is hate speech in the Empire of Social Justice.

    • Juanjo

      Kaiser von shithead and his sock puppets are sucking each other off, I see.

    • KaiserVonScheiss

      Juanjo has no arguments, I see.

  • IWantAFullBeard

    Lord he is so closeted it’s almost sexy.

  • Brody

    So, the left honestly believes that Trump wants to harm us, when there exists zero evidence to back this phobia. So what else is new? The very definition of being liberal is the perceived victimization perpetrated by straight white society, so they’re nothing if they’re not being oppressed by one manufactured outrage or another.

    • ChrisK

      Didn’t he just sign a religious liberty executive order? Hope your employer doesn’t have a religious objection to you. Then there’s the whole healthcare thing. I guess if it doesn’t effect you personally it’s a-ok. Selfish f*ck.

    • Alexis

      ‘Zero evidence’??? You must be delusional. Didn’t he attend an event that was anti-gay recently? If to you attending that event meant ‘not harming’ us, then I have no idea what it takes to harm you…physical harm??? Perhaps, he doesn’t want to, but he certainly does it anyway. Must have been how Hitler thought too..he didn’t really want to harm the Jews or other marginalized groups, but just wanted an Aryan race, which as a byproduct diminished the Jewish population in Europe.

      And the left is not about being ‘liberal’, it’s about being ‘progressive,’ which the right/conservative/GOP isn’t. They only embrace progressive views when it comes down to enriching their pockets. Btw, the straight white society continues to victimize other minorities (hint: Trump on Puerto Rico). You’re just too blind to see it.

      It’s because of people like you that the LGBTQ will always be a marginalized group.

    • Gaytaffuk

      Oh Brody, you are funny!

      This must be your best one yet!

      What? You’re not joking!

      Then you must be a complete idiot if you believe Trumplestiltskyn doesn’t want to hurt you as a gay man!

      Sorry to burst your bubble but he’s the architype bully, picking on those he’s sees as weaker than him, people he sees as isolated, those he sees as ‘less than’ him and those he swore to protect when he swore his oath of office. As a gay man you are definitely in his sights.

      Don’t delude yourself, everything he does and says indicates that he only cares for one person, himself. In defending him you are showing yourself to be the worst kind of fool, one with no awareness of the shitstorm surrounding him.

      In defending him you show yourself to be a shill. Look at yourself very carefully and admit that you have been taken for a ride and been foolish. There is still time for you to learn, please, don’t continue to be stupid and see this fascist for the shit-heap he is.

    • Brody

      Alexis –
      If going to a religious event constitutes harming us, then Barack Obama did so on numerous occasions as well. And don’t forget that he repeatedly stated that his Christian beliefs were what made him believe marriage was between one man and one woman. So, yes, there exists zero evidence that Trump wants to hurt us. It’s all in your imagination.

      Gaytafakukkkaf –
      It’s a shame that this is our only forum, because I bet it would be interesting to get into a real discussion with you.

    • kevin57

      Brody, Russia’s calling.

    • Gaytaffuk

      This is our only forum, so go ahead, bring on the discussion!

    • Brody

      kevin57 –
      Russia, Russia, Russia!

    • DCguy

      Awww, the right wing trolls multiple screenames are DESPERATELY trying to say that the President who said he would appoint judges to harm us, and who picked the most notorious anti-lgbt bigot as his running mate….doesn’t want to harm us.

      Why do you even bother anymore? Your posts are obviously farmed out of some Russian or Moldovan bot farm, it’s just sad at this point.

  • RIGay

    At what point will karma manifest?

  • Low Country Boy

    Not soon enough. Hell, I’d be happy if Karma would just take care of the trolls on this site. I don’t know . . . maybe alerting leobaga and Brody’s family that they troll gay websites and then them having to explain to their loved ones exactly what they were doing on a gay website.

    • leobaga

      You do know we are gay, right. What an idiot.

    • kevin57

      I suspect many are Russian bots.

    • Brody

      LOL, you think gay conservatives must be closeted, when we’re not. Granted, we don’t wear Speedos to gay parades screaming about how proud we are, but that doesn’t mean we’re living sheltered lives hidden from our loved ones.

      leo –
      Nope, they think we’re straight Russian robots. Apparently gay men can’t think for themselves in LibLand, so the logic is that all conservatives must be heterosexuals. Or trolls, of course.

      kevin57 –
      Russia, Russia, Russia!

  • Paco

    Joking that the spare president wants to hang all the gays isn’t much of a joke since the guy is still allowed to be VP with such detestable “Christian” beliefs. I hope I live to see the day that American Christians get to truly experience what real persecution is, beyond simply disagreeing with their fanatical beliefs.

    • Brody

      You’ve obviously forgotten that Barack Obama is, according to him, a devout Christian.

    • Paco

      @Brody – And when did former President Obama make a joke about his VP being such a religious whack job that he wants to hang all the gays? Oh that’s right. He never did.

    • Brody

      The key word there being “joke,” Paco.
      Enough said.
      To make more out of it than that is, as I stated above, manufactured outrage.

  • Jaxton

    I’m sorry but a woman’s right to abort a baby is not on the same wavelength as a man’s right to express his homosexual qualities. Abortion is anti- homosexual.

  • mhoffman953

    Sounds like fake news to me. The article says all of this is “according to a legal scholar”. Why won’t they name this “legal scholar” who was supposedly there when these comments were said? Usually the media records President Trump’s every word but for some reason, all they have is hearsay from a “legal scholar” when no one else was in the room.

    This is just like when CNN reported that James Comey never told President Trump that he wasn’t under FBI investigation “according to someone familiar with his thinking” which turned out to be fake news as well

    • Gaytaffuk

      It’s funny mhoffman, when you can’t defend what Trump has said you always try to undermine the truth or source.

      The saddest thing about this whole report is that, given Trump’s open sewer of a mouth and Pence’s renowned support and belief of the religious right, we (being people of sound mind, not you obviously) can believe that Trump would say this and Pence would believe it!

    • Brody

      Gayatffffak –
      On second thought, judging by your above snark and obvious sense of superiority over others, perhaps you’re a tad too extreme to engage in civil discussion.

    • Gaytaffuk

      Brody – that’s a shame, you’ve obviously been looking for a lame excuse to dodge a reasoned debate and now you’ve found one. Come on, you’re better than that! This just looks weak!

  • DCguy

    Wow, so almost every single one of Mo Bro’s screenames is frantically out in force trying to either lie and claim this didn’t happen, or to say that Trump REALLY loves lgbts.

    Lets cut through the smoke. You are the screenames of an anti-lgbt bigot whose job is to give cover to anti-lgbt Republicans so they can attack us.

    Did I get everything?

    • KaiserVonScheiss

      How about the part where you’re a delusional hack who thinks everyone who disagrees with you is the same person? You might have missed that one.

    • leobaga

      @KaiserVonScheiss hahaha. Good one. You rendered him speechless.

  • WindsorOntario

    I guess I’m not seeing the difference here between Pence’s attitude towards gays and gays attitudes towards each other. We have absolutely no use for each other in this community unless the guy can do something for you or you’re sexually attracted to him.
    Otherwise, as far as gay men are concerned, we’d leave each other to die in the street and throw one another under the bus in a heartbeat. Stop acting as if we’re all in this together as that was a farce cooked up by the same kinds of people behind ‘it gets better’. Each of us on his own.

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