Madonna met up with Billboard to chat about her new album Rebel Heart which will be out on March 10.
The “Living for Love” singer opened up about all kinds of things, including… her age!
That’s right. Madonna is well aware of all the ageist haters out there who like to criticize her for being 56 and still daring to flash her derrière on the red carpet. And guess what? She doesn’t care what you think about her. Because, bitch, she’s Madonna.
Here are some highlights from the interview…
On using the word “bitch” a lot:
I’m not interested in political correctness. The word “bitch” means a lot of different things. Everything is about context. … If I say to you, “I’m a badass bitch,” I’m owning myself, I’m saying, “I’m strong, I’m tough, and don’t mess with me.” If I say, “Why are you being such a bitch to me?,” well, that means something else.
On singing about sex and religion on her new album:
When have I not explored the politics of sex and religion? I’m just continuing with my studies.
On the Catholic church:
I’ve been ex-communicated by the Catholic Church a few times. But I also feel like this new pope is kind of groovy, and I think we might be able to get together and have a chat about sex.
On Miley Cyrus:
I like her. She seems like she doesn’t care what people think. People are always telling her she’s dirty or crazy or trashy, and she doesn’t care. I love that about her. In her peer group, she stands out.
It’s not very sexy. Maybe for someone who has never had sex before. I kept waiting for something exciting and crazy to happen in that red room thing, and I was like, “Hmm, a lot of spanking.” I also thought, “This is so unrealistic because no guy goes down on a girl that much.” I’m sorry, but no one eats pussy as much as the guy in that book.
On paving the way for other female artists and dealing with ageist haters:
It’s an ongoing activity in my life. I’m continuing to open doors for the women behind me. I don’t know many women who have had a successful career in pop music as long as I’ve had. And I waited until I was older to have children. I raised children and wasn’t married. And I continue to express myself–my sexuality–in my 50s, even though that’s also considered taboo. And I get a lot of shit for it. But in 20 years, Miley Cyrus probably won’t get shit for it. Then, it’ll be like, “Oh, yeah, that’s nothing new.”
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Maybe if you tried singing instead using desperate stunts to get attention, you would still be considered relevant.
@Ummmm Yeah: she’s promoting a new album zippy.
I may not always love everything she does, but she’s definitely a badass bitch! She’s never backed away from doing exactly what she wanted to do, and to hell with the haters. I’ve always admired that about her, and I have looked up to her for that. I grew up with Madonna. I was a young girl when I watched her tell Dick Clark she wanted to rule the world. I was a teenager when she released Erotica and the book Sex, and I a woman who was proud to be a sexual being, who didn’t try to hide that or pretend to be ashamed of it. When Evita came out I was now considered an adult and trying to figure out what that meant, and if I looked to her for an example it meant working your ass off to get what you want and then working you ass off some more to make sure you did justice to it.
Have a bought every single album, no. Have I liked everything she’s released, no. But is she still relevant, yes. Hell Yes. Many would say she’s someone every girl can look up to, and trust me, I have introduced my own daughter to her already. But I think she’s someone every person who has ever felt like an “other” can look to for an idea of what it’s like to accept yourself and not give a rats arse what anyone else thinks. What’s more relevant than that?
@Lexi: Ugh it’s too early, I need an edit button. *I saw a woman who was proud to be a sexual being…*
She mentions the word bitch, while in fact she is one, ONE TIRED BITCH! YAWN! Let’s all agree on one thing and it is this: Madonna’s time has come and gone, there is nothing new here to see, she is boring, stale, and if she ever had an ounce of talent, that in itself would be the relevancy!
I think I said this on another Queerty post about Madge (there have been so many lately I’ve lost count) but, while I’m not a Madonna fan or fan boy, I’ll give her this: she actually sings. She doesn’t come out and lip-sync or use Auto Tune. She does the most with her her flat, thin voice.
Talking about bitches…..many people don´t give a rat´s ass for what that bitch can say…or sing
@Desert Boy: Actually Madonna does NOT sing most of her songs when in concert. She even admitted to it once. Her show is so active with all the dancing and movement that her voice would be breaking if she actually sang. So when you see a Madonna concert, what you’re actually seeing is just a show. Which is fine, if that’s what you know going in.
I’m always surprised by the die-hard fans of hers in the gay community, like we owe her something. I don’t think she’s really done all that much for the gay community other than pandering and cultural appropriation such as vogueing.
She’s not original, she’s a mimic that has a wider audience so she’s accredited as a trailblazer. Even in the interview above she basically gives herself, and only herself credit for paving the way for female pop artists. I just can’t stand her arrogance.
Too old and irrelevant… nuff said.
Most of you might be too young to know this, but Madonna literally altered the way we interact with music. Prior to the 80’s, most radio stations had a solid rule about playing music by female recording artists: One per hour. For Rock stations, that meant Linda Ronstadt at 2pm, Heart at 3pm, etc… Pop stations had Donna Summer, Diana Ross, and maybe Streisand or Carly Simon. Madonna and MTV changed all of those rules over the course of the next decade. She and her female compatriots flooded MTV and VH1 with great music and videos, sold millions of records, and literally forced radio to give them more airplay and exposure. From Britney to Pink to Katie, to Miley… they all have Madonna to thank for their success.
Had it not been for her (and Lauper, Bananarama, The Bangles, Janet, and Whitney), female pop and rock would still be a sub genre. We owe her a great deal, and the way she’s treated on this site by many of Q’s readers is incredibly disrespectful… and in all honesty, ignorant.
@jockjack5: did it ever occur to you that certain media outlets have used her name bc it garners them attention? Madonna is literally the most successful female artist of all time and as she has taught us there is a way to spin negative press to your benefit. If your point is that she’s old yeah she is. But she is still selling thousands of records (aside from Taylor Swift and Adele nobody buys actual albums anymore btw) and millions see her on tour. To spend $200+ to see an artist live means way more as far as brand loyalty than a $12 album you all probably illegally downloaded already. And the argument that Madonna isn’t played on the radio therefore she is irrelevant is tired to. Radio is ageist and doesn’t play any female artist over 45 and nobody seems to have a problem with his. And even Beyonce can’t even get her latest songs played on the radio even though the album was a massive success. The way we acquire music has changed but doesn’t change the fact that Madge has a 31 year career that is unparalleled. Though hard work, determination and talent (yes she can sing haters) she has managed to stay on top while her peers often praised for their natural gifts have died or faded away. For a group of people that should take solace in an ally of so many years and the truly euphoric dance music she has delivered some of you are some sad, angry human beings.
@jake234: That’s why I only listen to Sirius and Pandora. Regular Radio sucks.
@Palto: Really? I thought she was promoting saggy middle aged tits. Guess that’s because nothing she does brings attention to the music instead of herself.
can’t understand her fake british accent that she adopted after what was it..2 weeks? pass
@odowd4sure: So you’re saying her time has ‘come and gone’ and that if she ever did have talent, that would make her ‘relevant’. So that means you must at least concede that she HAS been important, and it begs the question how she did that in the first place, if not through ‘talent’.
The vast majority of people who have any appreciation of pop music recognise that songs such as Holiday, Into The Groove, Live To Tell, Papa Don’t Preach, Like A Prayer, Vogue, Justify My Love, Erotica, Frozen, Ray of Light, Music, and Hung Up, are some of the best ever examples of the genre, which is why they still get played today at parties, clubs and bars. All the pop princesses like Katy, Nicki, Miley, Rihanna, Beyonce all cite her as their key influence and all have been hailed as the ‘new Madonna’.
So those facts alone mean she’s just as ‘relevant’ as she ever has been and will continue to be, long into the future.
@jantheman4903: Actually, Madonna started spending time in London in 1995 as that’s where the soundtrack to Evita was recorded and part of the film was shot there too. She also had a couple of English boyfriends before meeting Guy Ritchie and marrying him in 2000. So, no. She didn’t start speaking with a ‘fake British accent’ after just ‘2 weeks’.
What a fucking idiot. She’s so not classy.
Cracks me up that all these lil babies taking time to cry about how they don’t care about Madonna or what she does…..then why the f are you posting? Not relevant my a@@….lol
I’m neither sad nor particularly angry Jake, and I’m certainly not a “hater” of the icon we know as Madonna.
I fondly remember her fabulous run back in the 1980’s and loved her music then and now.
Today, however, she is nothing more than a shameless self-promoter who goes to extraordinary lengths to appear “edgy” and relevant.
It’s really more pathetic then “sad”.
@Ladbrook: Not the radio stations where i grew up. Perhaps rock stations did not play many women artists, but pop, disco, and r&b stations in the 70’s most certainly did. Your recollection of radio history is simply wrong.
Hands don’t lie. That’s why she always wears those lace gloves or (as above) extra long sweater sleeves. She’s going to wind up being Baby Jane Hudson if she doesn’t evolve her look.
A little humility would serve Madonna well. I guess, at this stage in her career, it’s hard for her to talk about herself and her legacy without sounding like a narcissist, but the pose she is striking these days makes her come off as defensive. She used to be much better at managing self-promotion without being quite such an egomaniac (or sounding like one, anyway). She’s is in a unique position, which is always tricky, but I think she has not yet mastered the art of aging gracefully.
The thing is, Madonna will have been told by multiple people (from Kaballah gurus to fellow celebs to starstruck fans) that she was born with a higher purpose. Practically, what that means for the rest of us is that there will be many more years of her in a leotard and heels, being pawed by shirtless dancers half her age, to the sound of monologues about empowerment delivered in her trademark monotone. Once it was her divine mission to teach us about sex; now it’s about sex for older ladies. She will literally still be doing this stuff at 70. So get used to it, it was ordained by the cosmos, and this corporate billionaire now needs to make her second billion.
By definition, Madonna is a living legend and pop music superstar. She will always be relevant, even if her newer music isn’t as ground-breaking and solid as years past. I’m sure the ageism she experiences bothers her on some level but doesn’t get her where she lives. She has 30+ number one songs and is worth nearly $1 billion. She’ll be just fine.
It wouldn’t matter if she was still 30, after a while acting 12 is no longer cute anymore.
There’s nothing ageist about it. I could see if it was behind closed doors, that would be no one’s business, but it’s in the public eye purposely.
And people can care less about your new album, right back at ya boo. Way to stir up two fake controversies – the fake “album leak”, then she comes out on stage half naked with guys her daughters age fawning over her and waits with baited breath for someone, anyone, to make a crack about it, so she can go off on a whole “ageism” rant in all her interviews. Zzzzz….
@TomOH: The phrase is “CanNot care less.” (It’s in the title, for chrissakes.) Zzzzzz.
I think Madonna IS boring but I don’t get the hate against her. Just don’t buy her records if you don’t like her.
Clearly she couldn’t care less, which is why she has had so much plastic surgery that she looks like a different person.
@MarionPaige: we actually agree about something. Seriously, there are plenty of people who still want her to make albums and do her thing and as long as they keep paying for her music she will keep making it. She continues to make millions so why in the name of all that is sane would she quit just because some people think she is “tired” or “irrelevant”? That certainly wouldn’t stop ME from doing something that keeps me rolling in dough. I would just be like “Hate me as I continue to cash these massive checks!”
Oh my God leave Madonna alone. You haters bring me to tears. Madonna should be respected and honored for her body of work.
While I don’t love her new work, it’s too easy to pick on Madge. When the only pop artist to have a platinum album in 2014 is T Swift, there’s a bigger problem industry-wide than Madonna.
She’s not doing herself any favor either. If her idea of “edgy” is met with public yawns, it’s time to reevaluate — the age is really kinda irrelevant.
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To all the Madonna haters…you’re clearly either way too young to understand her legacy and need to shut up, or you’re a shallow faggot.
The girl deserves respect. Period.
@bottom250: “Madonna should be respected and honored for her body of work.”
Right, as much as Pat Boone should be respected and honored for his body of work.
“Being White at the right time (a la Pat Boone) doesn’t command all that much respect. Madonna faces a lot of “competition” from Black Artists today that she would not have had to worry about in years past.
Oh God stop acting like she did something for us personally. She’ll take our money, she has some halfway decent songs, most stink. Big whoop.
She can’t handle criticism at her age? Cry more.
Dead to me.
The only thing that matter is sales, “IF” her album
perform well, you guys are bitches LOL
If she flops………….. I predict more toxicity.
But either way, Madonna should be respected for her
spectacular career, it is easy to wine and complain,
lets see any you guy on a stage, LOL
I wish that was true, but sadly nobody has replaced Michael Jackson, his sister
Janet or Donna Summer, all we have left is a fast aging fat cow buy the name
of Beyonce, the only thing she can do on stage is shake those giant hips (boring!!).
If MadDOGna is so Pro Gay rights, why is it that she is nowhere to be found when the gay marriage fight is taking place? Can you answer that? When it would make sense for her to get her saggy ass out there and campaign, especially to sell herself…er her music, now would be the ultimate time, she would be doing double duty and showing her allegiance and she is NOT showing any allegiance or backing up the gay community, AT ALL. So, she wants to say that she supports us, prove it, she does not support us, only when it is convenient for her and apparently, now is not one of those times. Put up or shut up MaDOGna. You expect us to follow you and buy into your fantasy of what a real artiste is, then show us that you have our back. I do not think you will, PROVE IT!!
@odowd4sure: Perhaps you missed it last year when she spoke up for gay rights during her concert in Russia, where she could have been arrested for it.
@Realitycheck: It wouldn’t matter if Beyoncé were thick or thin, the problem is that she’s not that great of a singer. Sadly, you’re right…and you can add Whitney to your list. Why can’t Jennifer Hudson write (or buy) great songs??
it is both funny and sad that Avicii apparently got flack from his fans over him teaming up with Madonna. It is said that bad PR can trump good achievements, at least in North America.
There are so many repulsive “celebrities” who really need to go the f away (like all of these 80 year old fu_ks still hanging around). Madonna is boring but, clearly, she has a fan base. When she can’t sell anything anymore, she will go away.
@lykeitiz: Oh please, you think someone would actually even be able to get near this chick to arrest her? That would’ve been an international incident.
The farce that these people ever actually risk anything but running their mouths is a joke.
You’re acting like she’s on the level of JFK or Martin Luther King. She’s a washed up celebrity who got lucky and needs to retire and enjoy her easy money.
I am Gay (just like you), Black, HIV-Positive, and Back Bitches!!!
Oh wow! Look at all the gay people getting together to form their nasty opinions! No, I guess she didn’t do anything for you hack bitch fags! Two-faced jealousy! Yeah, let’s stone her! Let’s burn her at the stake stale bitch! I can’t wait! Let’s show the world what we’re really made of!
Wow! That was quick! All of a sudden? My, how faces turn where you girlz are concerned! No wonder this community has no long standing friends! What was she a homophobe too? Let Eminem drop a cd then! I guess you’re gonna make for that one then you self-loathing bitches! You’ll turn that corner at break-neck speed! Every white girl on this page right now who didn’t have something positive to say about her ought to be ashamed of herself! I didn’t have to respect the bitch just to see this!
If anybody is ageist, it’s Madonna. She uses make-up to cover up her wrinkles. She is promoted with Photo-Shopped pictures that look as if they’ve been plucked from the 1990’s. Sure, there’s ageism – and it’s coming from Madonna herself.
As to her claim that she’s “expressing her sexuality”, LOL. Sexuality is what you express in the bedroom. When you express it on a stage, you’re doing it for money and not for sexuality.
Just get over yourself, Madge. You’re not that important…or bright.
Madonna should stop using make-up. You don’t see the bisexual Mick Jagger trying to cover up all his wrinkles lol… but yea, different as he’s a guy. Mick Jagger doesn’t care about people who attack his age. People have been telling him and his group to retire back in the early 1980s.
Madonna is fine in my book though. She can continue doing what she loves doing. What is the problem with that?
Tina Turner kept on going well into her 70s too… and even in her 70s, she still looks great. Her last tour in 2008-09 was when she was 70. I saw her in the Staples Center in October 2008… awesome show.
@odowd4sure: I’m pretty sure Madonna has done more for same sex marriage than you have.
If she doesn’t care about it, why does she keep harping about it in every interview?
her tiredness has nothing to do with how old she is. she played out the genre years ago. naughty catholic school girl. OMG, yawn.
Her music aside, I’m surprised her dismissive remarks about “Fifty Shades of Grey” even got in here, the way Queerty has been raving about that thing lately. “It’s not very sexy. Maybe for someone who has never had sex before.” – ha ha, will take her word for it that it’s a dull depiction of kinky hetero sex, something I guess she would know about.
i really love her – just a cool bitch!
The debate over Madonna is largely one between gay men. Straight men abandoned her a long time ago and although large audiences tune in when she performs on television, it’s mainly because she’s associated with spectacle and people want to see if she’ll get her kit off. Music sales have declined for her but this is the same for any older artist, and is also due to a drastically changed music industry. Where she excels is in tour sales. She’s in the unusual position of having a primarily gay fan base which is also politicised. These diehard fans fervently support her right to express her sexual self and will turn out for her no matter what. The schism between gay men over Madonna pits those who deem her trite, versus those who believe in the unfettered rights of people to express themselves without judgment from others. Observers have written that the fuss over her Grammys performance shows she’s still relevant. This is not quite true, as any story about her attracts a flurry of mainly gay opinion. The wider world is really not that much interested in her any more.
@I am Gay (just like you), Black, HIV-Positive, and Back Bitches!!!: @TheNewEnergyDude: Flagged for hate speech
I think the comment about Madonna’s “naughty Catholic” act is quite valid. She’s traded on it her whole life. Sometimes, one needs to grow up. I can understand that it’s made Madonna rich but sometimes even a Madonna has to draw the curtain down on the act.
Paved the way? Cher? Judy garland? I could go on and on. Madonna was a trailblazer in some areas, but not everything people here claim.
@scotshot: Oooh…boy, you sure showed me.
Don’t think it’s hate speech when it’s coming from another fag, dear. Would you rather I use queen or bitch? Shallow is shallow…perhaps you are one of them since you feel the need to flag.
Radio One announced Madonna is now banned, calling her “irrelevant and old”. Very cruel and uncalled for.
Madonna was never really a trail-blazer. All she really did was incorporate a soft porn-like visual presentation with an Auto-Tuned voice. Gay men flocked to her because “oh, look, there’s a powerful woman taking her clothes off in the way I, as a gay man, want to do as well”. Gay men saw her as the surrogate gay man who takes his clothes off in order to tempt another man.
Using women as surrogates is something that many gay men do. Gay men do this because they don’t have the courage of their own convictions.
@jason smeds: uh, Jason…honey. Madonna came out 10+ years before autotune was even born.
I’m guessing from the rest of your comments this is probably that jimbryant troll.
I don’t care anymore. The toxicity of the majority of the people out here is pathetic.
Wow the way people criticize her on here… I am not even a big fan of hers. I like Queen and the Rolling Stones more, but seriously… what gives? Do people really have that much of a problem with her they have togo these lengths?
And then some are saying people use women as surrogates because they do not have courage? How petty and ridiculous! And yes people on here do seem to be toxic and with serious chips on their shoulders.
I’m not a huge Madonna fan – especially her music from the last 10 years or so – but I’m not surprised by the hate in these comments. Of COURSE gay men will make catty comments about age, looks and irrelevance. That’s what the “community” does on a regular basis. Sad lack of substance.
Bitter old queens like me love to bitch and be catty.
I thought that was a given.
Leave us alone.
We are not toxic.
We are just doing what we do.
Giancarlo, if these toxic guys, met Madonna in real life, they would be
screaming joy from every pore and tell everybody for years, they are not expressing an opinion they are just spitting vitriol, because they are sad people,
and I bet, most likely they are single and emotionally incapable of a meaningful relationship.
Only the brainless crowd, there are plenty of nice and educated, good guys
out there that would actually think before speaking, as you said,
a sad lack of substance and I will add brain.
Depends, Madonna never had any problem using obviously gay dancers
and when her song Vogue came out, it was not posh to be a drag queen
or to Vogue, so Madonna did make that segment of gay life known to
the general public, and she didn’t care what people thought of it.
On the other hand she was not an Elisabeth Taylor that stood up for gay
and against AIDS when almost nobody else did.
I guess every star works their support to gay in their own way.
@TheNewEnergyDude: It appears you enjoy wallowing in the gutter. Don’t think I’m the only one who flagged your hateful comments, I was the only one who stated it publicly.
@Realitycheck: @I trust you’re not aware of the broadway musical La Cage aux Folles opened on Broadway in 1983 was a smash hit. The musical was based on the French film of the same name released in 1978 – Very, very posh. There’s also VictorVictoria 1982. Obviously gay dancers? I won’t even bother answering that one. Voguing arose from the ball culture in New York. Voguers were (mainly gay) cross dressers and minorities, the documentary “Paris Is Burning” released in 1990 is based on that group(s). Malcolm Mclaren released “Deep in Vogue” a year before (1989). I think Madonna’s “Vogue” is a great song and video, but at its roots it’s a copy – a white person appropriating the music of other races, think Elvis Presley.
There was a whole lot of drag going on before Madonna – since the 1500s at least, and when it became “Posh” is a matter of opinion.
Madonna is just irritating- it has nothing to do with her age.
Cage aux Folles and Victor Victoria (great movies)
were not showcasing a realist gay life style, “paris is burning” did,
but it was not a main stream movie.
Madonna made Vogue and Drags queen main stream, that was my point.
To be honest I don’t see why so many people here are ready to step on a
woman that has spoken for the gay community and human rights.
She is talented or she would not be be where she is, she is a smart business
woman or she would not have all that she has, and she is pro gay,
so she doesn’t deserve vitriol from people that DO benefit from what
she has done for them.
You can be old and relevant!
@Realitycheck: I did not make negative comments regarding Madonna. Your commentary is personal opinion.
@scotshot: you certainly have made negative comments about Madonna in the past, however, scotshot. Back in September, you called her a big fail and said someone should make a remake of “Death Becomes Her”, starring her.
A simple Google search will show that.
Since you want to accuse me of wallowing…now I’m happy to.
Thanks again for your personal opinion.
Well, look, even I thought Madonna was cool back in the 80’s. I think back then we were all a bit naïve and were prepared to support any woman who took her clothes off for a living. It’s called projection. As gay men, we yearned to be like women who take their clothes off.
LOL I don’t know about women taking their clothing off,
I thought it was more about women with open thinking and
or strong personality that attracted gay men.
@jason smeds: More snide remarks… not only do you degrade women in your rants, but you also try to speak for other gay men. Bravo.
I like her, but I think she absolutely cares about what people think and always has. That insecurity is what drives her. If she didn’t care she wouldn’t be so desperately and constantly promoting herself over and over again when she has hundreds of millions in the bank. She is in an industry where if you don’t care what people think, you don’t sell songs, and man does she want to sell songs.
@scotshot: Not at all sweetie. Like I said, was a very simple search.
Are you guys seriously bickering about Madonna, a rude, thankless woman who would sooner spit on her fans than actually be kind and gracious? I like some of her work but there’s no doubt what a selfish, dreadful person she is. Can’t we all get along, guys? 🙂
You and scotshot are REALLY going at it!!
From my earliest days, I have always gotten aroused watching two boys fight and bump dicks.
So, don’t stop on my account!
@jason smeds: “It’s called projection. As gay men, we yearned to be like women who take their clothes off.”
That would explain many of your posts about women, that came off as a projection of your jealousy toward them. Thanks for sharing.
I really don’t care much about how OLD Madonna, or any other artist, is. And I’m not going to get into the talent issue. What I care about is how “stars” treat others and, by all, accounts Madonna is a rude condescending “bitch” who looks down on people. To quote Michael Jsckson when Madonna made a little girl cry for telling her to get lost when all she did was ask for an autograph: “Madonna is NOT a nice person.” Hey Madonna, it’s NOT your age. It’s YOU!
I’ll give you credit for breaking the mold and paving the way for other strong musical icons…but now it’s time to graciously step aside and let the next generation have it’s time in the sun.
The pathetic haters can hate all they want but in the end Madonna will still be the one and only Queen of Pop!
I am Gay (just like you), Black, HIV-Positive, and Back Bitches!!!
@scotshot: Freedom of Speech bitch! Look it up! I flagged you for obviously stalking me!
I am Gay (just like you), Black, HIV-Positive, and Back Bitches!!!
@DarkZephyr: Rascist whore! Maybe you should be just as honest!
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