Playing Defense

More Aaron Rodgers-Kevin Lanflisi Tweets Uncovered As Packers Square Off Against 49ers

It’s no surprise Packers QB Aaron (“I really, really like women”) Rodgers made a point of coming out publicly as emphatically “not gay” last Tuesday, six days before facing off against the San Francisco 49ers in the NFL playoffs at frigid Lambeau field in Wisconsin. He needs every ounce of focus to fend off the 49ers defense, which features a bruising pass rush.

But that has not stopped the relentless gossip site, The Fame Driven, from continuing its assault on the notion of Rodgers’ heterosexuality. Last week, the site posted a series of tweets to Rodgers from the Twitter account of Kevin Lanflisi, his long-time “roommate” and personal assistant.

In a follow-up post, it unveils a video of Rodgers talking affectionately of Lanflisi and the two at a banquet where Rodgers receives his MVP award:

It also shows off a batch of newly discovered tweets that portray a kind of familiarity between the two that falls–at least in the 140 word world–in that gray area somewhere between bromance and love affair.

 

 

This is the scruffed Lanflisi tweeting from Chico, California, the conservative California town where Rodgers grew up and where his religious conservative family still resides. The “champ” had just led the team to Super Bowl victory.

Apparently, the Berkeley educated Rodgers was Lanflisi’s date at a Bieber concert. We expected more…

… but he snared the best tix in the house. Hence, the close up.

No Coronas, but a picture says a thousand words.

 

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123 Comments

  • avesraggiana

    Oh, come on now! And that last picture in the deck chairs at the beach, is that them for real, and who would have taken the picture? Beyond ridiculous.

  • Dakotahgeo

    Those who scream “STRAIGHT” the loudest are almost always “GAYEST” to the EXtreme! 98% supported.

  • ppp111

    @avesraggiana:
    I was thinking the same thing. I also have a feeling the ‘spy’ in question might be a close friend of theirs who is revealing a lot more than Aaron or Kevin want known. I strongly believe this isn’t the end of this story; this has the potential to blow up in everyone’s face, especially Rodgers who has the most to lose. Or gain depending on your perspective. It is odd that Kevin has remained quiet throughout all this. Interesting.

  • jimbryant

    I think a lot of gay men have trouble accepting close relationships between straight-identifying men. There’s an unwillingness to accept that men can have close physical and spiritual relationships without taking it all the way to the sex act.

    This unwillingness on the part of gay men is partly driven by jealousy and partly by self-interest. Let’s face it – most gay men wish to get into a man’s pants rather than into his mind. Straight-identifying men prefer to get into other mens’ minds. If there’s a physical tangent (such as hugging or kissing) to the latter, so be it, but straight-identifying guys do not see this as a central plank of their relationship.

    Maybe gay guys just need to wake up to the fact that much of their attraction to men is based on fetish – eg the size of the penis, the hair on the chest, the shape of the behind, the chunk in the hunk…all these things. Truly, it’s a measure of the degree of fetish involved in the sexual attractions of men overall, and not just gay men.

  • litper

    “I’m bought. Owned. His”

    Really, what kind of “friends” write such tweets?

  • litper

    As usual rightwinger trolls like jimbryant are here with their 1950s “logic”. Is this site owned by Rush Limbaugh? Why such homophobic posters aren’t banned?

  • xzall

    @avesraggiana: It’s an actual photo from Kevin Lanflisi’s instagram account. But he had written something else. His photo caption read: “Hermosa with my dude @minkasuaris_rex. Photo cred: random, super immodest bikini chick. #TextFlow” So that’s who apparently took the photo.

  • enlightenone

    @jimbryant: Clearly you either never took a Psych 101 Class or failed it. The “Gay” is the one subject everyone one knows about, but never studied, seen, or experienced!

  • xzall

    Ok, I checked out mikasuaris_rex and his instagram account is no longer active. However I googled and found that Minkasuaris shows up with a a guy calling himself Matt Minkus. I found a 4 month photo of him and Kevin Lanflisi.

    The caption reads: “Throwing it back on this Fine Thursday to a pic of @kevinlanflisi and myself. I don’t miss him cause I’m still with him. #hermosalocal #textflow” This guy looks like Aaron Rodgers but I’m not sure.
    Judge for yourself.

    http://statigr.am/p/533528901045191168_23618327

  • HeroQueero

    Where is Aaron’s “beautiful Christian” fiancee in any of these photos? So, instead of taking his girlfriend to a Bieber concert and the ESPN Awards he takes his assistant/best friend? Um, okay, I guess.

  • Tyler100

    @jimbryant:

    JimBryant = automatic did-not-read & flag.

    —–

    @HeroQueero:

    Yes, this is pretty telling.

  • jimbryant

    Oh, please, have you ever seen how men interact in gay bars. It’s a fetish-based attraction system. Theme nights are held on the basis of appearance. Bear nights and leather nights are popular at one particular hole I’m familiar with.

    Fetish, fetish, fetish. Don’t deny that fetish is an important element of male attraction. Straight men are no different. Straight men often look for women with particular looks, such as blonde hair and big boobs.

    Face it – a lot of you are lonely and jealous. You are lonely on account of having shocking personalities. And you are jealous because you will never have Aaron Rodgers. Not even for a minute….

  • KittyLitter

    hmm.. oh well. moving on.

  • ppp111

    @xzall:

    Definately not. That guy reminds me a bit of Scott Caan from Hawaii five-O and Varisty Blues.

    As I stated before I know we won’t be seeing the last of this fiasco. One day someone’s sexuality won’t make a lick of difference. Ah well.

  • ppp111

    @HeroQueero:

    There are a few pics of him and his girlfriend at the beach. But other than those, not many per say.

  • ppp111

    I also meant to add that the beach pics are actually several years old if I remember correctly.

  • RomanHans

    @jimbryant: Oh, go to hell, troll. Maybe hetero guys jut need to wake up to the fact that much of their attraction to women is based on fetish – eg boobs and butts. Wait, I take that back: ALL of their attraction is based on “fetish.” I know you hate yourself already, but I think you underestimate yourself.

  • Dakotahgeo

    @litper: This is a case of pure abdication of power. The real question is, why can’t Queerty even rid their blogs from stupid advertisements on how to earn so much money by following useless links???!?

  • avesraggiana

    The silver-haired, jean-clad Dad in the Ford C-Max TV ad has an enormous package…Oops, sorry. Got distracted by the TV ad while watching the Packer/49er game.

  • tada-no

    More gossip, rumors and no credible evidence? What are gay gossip sites trying to achieve other than to drive away straight men in our society from forming close friendships with us? In Europe Rodger’s bromance would not come to suspect, but in U.S. we ourselves perpetuate the stereotype of what gay friendships v. hetero friends should look like.

  • MCHG

    @HeroQueero: perhaps Aaron’s girlfriend isn’t in any of the pictures because it’s Kevin’s Twitter page. why would Kevin have pics of his roommate and his roommates girlfriend together on his Twitter account? there are plenty of pics of Aaron online with his girlfriend, but judging from Aaron’s Twitter account, he doesn’t care much for social media and therefore there won’t be many pics of him off the field other than the ones people immediately around him take I.e his roommate.

  • MCHG

    is this really how we want to start the year, forcing people out the closet and spreading rumors if in fact they turn out not to be gay? suppose Aaron in fact is gay, that’s means our first openly gay athlete is no Jackie Robinson. our first gay athlete will be forced out the closet kicking and screaming after a denial, a sham relationship, and a nasty breakup. keep in mind, this will be remembered for decades to come. if the man is not going to be straightforward about his gayness, if in fact he is gay, then hrs no role model. and if the packers are uneventful in these next few months, it’s completely possible that Aaron’s personal drama will be considered a factor, and we already know how the NFL deals with gay drama.

  • avesraggiana

    That was…anti-climactic. San Fran’ won on field goal.

  • jimbryant

    RomanHans,

    Did you even bother to read my post? No, I didn’t think so.

    I pointed out that all men’s attractions are based on fetish. I didn’t discriminate.

    In fact, I would say that the particular type of person you are attracted to is based on fetish.

  • dougmc92

    well- the Packer’s season is over- maybe he’ll grow a pair and do it….of course, once a guy says their str8/really, really likes women- they can stay in the closet as far as I’m concerned!

  • dougmc92

    @dougmc92: they are not their….

  • jimbryant

    Remember all those homophobic comments that SFR 49’ers players made a couple of years ago? They were disgusting. They’re a homophobic team.

  • litper

    @MCHG: because Europe is actually more homophobic. There are far less openly gay people in “liberal” Britain than in “conservative” US. They will all hug kiss and dry hump each other but stay “100% straight”. Just remember there were people actually defending Tom Daley’s “straightness” for a long time!

  • litper

    oops my reply was to @tada-no

  • mrsbuela

    @jimbryant:

    you calling anyone homophobic. Three words:

    Pot.

    Kettle.

    Black.

    Now do us all a favor and go work on your Bristol Palin shrine…..

  • DShucking

    Why isn’t Queerty reporting on that guy with two dicks?

  • litper

    @DShucking: they did

  • DShucking

    @litper: Dammit! This is probably where I saw it first. lol

  • Black Pegasus

    LMAO @ The Fame Driven attaching that particular Beyonce song to the video…
    So very shady lol

  • samwise343

    I think a lot of homophobic straight men have trouble accepting the idea that gay men do not want them. There’s an unwillingness to accept that gay men are not attracted to ALL men walking on earth. Seriously, these homophobes keep imagining that their miniscule excuse for a dick is obviously desirable. They think, “Hey, these mos have no standards and obviously want to suck my Johnson.”

    This unwillingness on the part of homophobic men is partly driven by jealousy and partly by self-interest. They are constantly on the hunt for snatch, and they’re just not getting it. Many women refuse to put out. Let’s face it – most homophobic men wish to get into a woman’s poontang but they keep getting denied. Naturally, this began after women got the right to vote. Also, homophobic bigots look at gay men and imagine all kinds of gay sex going on. They can’t help it. The mos are constantly getting action.

    Maybe homophobes guys just need to wake up to the fact that all the bleach in the world isn’t going to get those skid marks out of their underwear. Furthermore, truly, a penis pump would definitely help their cause.

  • aces1218

    what makes people assume Aaron went with him to the concert? Also, there have been a lot of pictures of Aaron and Destiny Newton. Her sister Shawntel has posted a couple, including them at her wedding with Destiny wearing a large ring, Destiny’s instagram pic has been the two of them, and try google. I follow Aaron and I used to follow Kevin on Twitter, Kevin tweets more to Aaron more than Aaron tweets to him. Who knows, maybe Aaron saw Kevin as more of a friend and Kevin saw Aaron as more. We might never know. but I just think either way, Aaron should be left alone. Either hes straight or if hes gayhes not ready to come and in both circumstances I think he should be given his privacy.

  • jasentylar

    This is lame. Please get on with your lives and write about something that is worthy and has substance. Fucking ridiculous.

  • Kane9

    been creeping Lanflisi’s instagram and his twitter probably harder than famediven and i believe there was an intimate relationship between the two men. Lanflisi recently changed his phone number as i gathered from some instagram posts. He is often on the beach and has several pictures similar to the one with Aaron and himself above, only now on his instagram the other chair is empty and it states reserved for “family”. I find the text of that beach tweet peculiar though. “There’s no guilt, no shame, i know the truth”. Seems like hes making direct references to religious beliefs. I wonder is Aaron was his first same sex partner, and im also curious to know the age difference between these two. From Lanflisi’s instagram he is a bit of a hipster church camp goer, devout believer in Christ (ergo Aaron/the Rodgers), but he’s also edgier and more “street”. He and Aaron could not be more opposites. Like literally, look up a Rodgers interview and then watch the vimeo vidoes of Lanflisi in Ecuador and his instavideos, and i wonder if some kind of grooming didn’t take place there on Aarons part. Also the other tweet where Kevin says that he was happy to be in a position to be “mentored” by Rodgers. There is definitely some hero worship going on, and heartbreak too. It seem Rodgers took what he wanted and sold Lanflisi another story about being ok with being gay and christian, all the while knowing he would never come out. I also wonder about Rodgers’ bisexuality.

  • Kane9

    @MCHG: hey Lanflisi’s twitter said that he wish he had left on his own, but that God had to pull him out kicking and screaming. So maybe thats how Rodges needs to come out. Kicking and screaming. I have no sympathy is he lied to Kevin and sold him one ideal all the while knowing what he planned on doing especially if he knew Kevin idolized him.

  • avesraggiana

    @Kane9: Total opposites is right. Hipster-GenY-ersatz-Bohemian-maybe-slacker, Christian versus All-American, big-time-jock, wholesome, cleancut, national sports hero. Sounds like an extraordinarily unlikely partnership if it ever really happened. There’s never any telling what brings two people together, but in gay relationships there is every stress and strain imaginable that pulls them apart.

    Wait, wait, wait! *Shaking head to clear muddled brain* None of this is real!

  • MCHG

    @Kane9: first of all, there is absolutely no indication that Aaron planned to come out but reneged at the last minute. second, Kevin is a grown man, destroying the life of a former roommate because you idolize him is not something a mentally stable adult does. how many times does this community have to warn men about the consequences of dating someone in the closet. I think we’ve made enough progress where dating someone in the closet is not an obligation but a choice. quite frankly I have no sympathy for people who get in relationships with closeted men expecting them to change, especially when those men are public figures and have not only their careers to look out for but entire teams and their staff as well. forcing someone to confront a homophobic industry, a strictly Christian family, and dozens of fervent nosy queens on the internet because they can’t hold hands with you in public is about the most childish thinga gay man can do. why do you want to drag this man kicking and screaming out of the closet? it does nothing for our community and can have seriously negative consequences for this man’s life. I thought we agreed that we wanted our gay athlete to be Jackie Robinson, not Larry Craig.

  • ZaneStuart

    @avesraggiana: I was happy to see the Niners eek this one out! As far as Rodgers being gay? I don’t care – unless he’s made nasty remarks about LGBTQ folk. Yup, I don’t care.

  • ppp111

    @ZaneStuart:

    So true. So far he hasn’t said anything deragatory or demeaning. That’s ok in my book and would be a bigger story than the possibility of him as a closet case. On a side note, these comments are more entertaining than the actual story itself!!

  • FitChicago

    Aaron Rogers has never pinged my gaydar but I haven’t ruled out the possibility. In following this story I’ve looked at the “evidence” with an open mind. Based on what’s been presented I see many insinuations which if presented from different perspectives communicate very different conclusions. I haven’t read or viewed anything that causes me to draw any conclusion.

    One thing that hasn’t been mentioned is the fact that the timing of the first article that obscure site published is curious because it was pushed out the day before the Packers would play their biggest rival, the Chicago Bears, with the winner going to the playoffs as the champion of the NFC North. Considering that the game was Rogers return from injury and the intensity of the rivalry, one has to wonder if it’s possible that a very passionate and creative Bears fan could put this together to, in his mind, give his team an advantage by causing Rogers to deal with the stress such an article would cause him and therefore take his head out of the big game.

  • ppp111

    @FitChicago:

    Obviously it didn’t work! Yeah, that thought did cross my mind. That’s a low thing to do.

  • jata

    Not that I care much one way or the other, but I have to say that as damning as the last tweet comes off as at first glance, there’s countless Christian worship songs that uses that exact same language. In fact, it wouldn’t surprise me if it actually WAS an actual lyric from a worship song.

    South Park, of course, has brilliantly pointed out the hilarious ambiguity of religious sentiments (ie “I want to get down on my knees and start pleasing Jesus!”). Still, I do think there’s more ambiguity here than is being accounted for.

  • jonathanyoungii

    Leave the guy alone. He clearly stated he is heterosexual, and we should take it as such. this is prying, and not to mention a massive invasion of privacy. what’s with peoples obsession with others sexuality? I thought it didn’t matter, or whatever. a single rumour and everyone becomes obsessive detectives.

  • Kane9

    @avesraggiana: I know right! Also Kevin is not a slacker. He studied abroad in Ecuador as a student-teacher he is college educated and graduated. If you watch the vimeo vids i mention above you will see that this is 09-prior Rodgers. He must have began his internship at the stadium upon return to the states, and met Rodgers “in town” lol. Either way its kind of sad because there is some serious hero worship/possibly grooming that went on there, AND obviously Kevin was far more into Rodgers. His entire existence was him (see how often he tweeted, continued to tweet up until recently even after the split). The most indicting factors from all this is due to Kevin. “Silence always comes with an expiration date”. Im positive he put this out there. His heart was broken, and he probably realized that he had allowed himself to be used and wanted revenge. This is also why i think it was possibly Kevins first same sex partnership. Hero worship = sheep! “Thinkin Bout You” by Frank Ocean comes to mind.

  • SteveDenver

    So what? They’re Tweethearts. Both come from apparently conservative backgrounds where a relationship won’t be accepted. Maybe they’ve danced all over the edges of one.

    How are they supposed to respond to allegations that upset their families. Has either of them done anything anti-gay to deserve an outing?

    Leave ’em alone.

  • yogisebastian

    Chico…”conservative”? BS. It’s full of pot smokers, hippies, far left individuals, and ready to experiment college kids.

  • Dakotahgeo

    @ppp111: per se* Unnnngh!

  • FitChicago

    @ppp111: The fact that it didn’t come up in the initial discussion or considered a possibility is troubling. As I wrote earlier, based on what’s been presented I see many insinuations which if presented from different perspectives communicate very different conclusions. I haven’t read or viewed anything that causes me to draw any conclusion.

    What is even more troubling has nothing to do with the people that are being speculated about but the fact that so many seemingly credible “news” sites and LGBT-specific media simply parrotted the story from an obscure, lesser known gossip site. Instead of doing anything to verify or debunk various details of that site’s post, all of the sites presented it as is.

    This same parrotting by seemingly credible media outlets continued this past weekend with the presentation of Itay Hod’s Facebook post about Aaron Schrock. While I have long believed Schrock to put the G or the B in LGBTQII and I fully support the reasons for Hod’s late night/early morning Facebook, I am disappointed that instead of verifying, reporting or examining Hod’s narrative, every news outlet or other website that has shared the “news” has simply repeated Hod’s claim.
    Not one site (with the exception of Gawker who at least took the time to check if Hod was employed by CBS) has conducted due diligence to verify Hod’s claim by: obtaining verification from the journalist mentioned (he doesn’t even need to go on the record, but verification is key) and the TMZ claim which should have been looked into deeper before a site pushes out the info.

    I’ve been a Queerty reader since David launched the site in 2005 and have continued ever since through all of the changes in the past 8 years. My criticism of the coverage of both Rogers and Schrock is not about Queerty (who in their coverage of both presented it as Queerty has presented things for 8 years), rather it is focused on the countless media outlets who pushed the information out to a very mainstream audience in a manner that didn’t question the information and epicly failed at their role as journalists to include any verification of details or original reporting.

  • Franco C.

    This is laughable. And The Fame Driven isn’t the only gossip website spreading false assumptions as fact. Isn’t that right, Queerty?

  • AuntieChrist

    Look out girls…(he who must not be named) Is reading Wikipedia again and thinks that (he she or it) is a Freudian Psychologist. All this crap about Fetishism…People are quite gullible and the internet sheep are so easily led…Throw out the fodder and watch them feed…A very wise professor once told me at university that you can’t believe everything you read and less than half of what you see.

  • balehead

    THIS IS JUST STRAIGHT STALKING AND STRAIGHT SHAMING ALREADY…WAY TO GO LOSERS!!!

  • balehead

    Jim Bryant is right..lots of gays have a problems with straight guys not wanting them…this happens too often these days…

  • AuntieChrist

    @balehead: One cray cray agreeing with another who’d a thunk it..What, no tired comment about it being all about money..??? Guess that means all you require to live is air and s**t.

  • Black Pegasus

    @samwise343: LMAO that comment was on point! Even fat ugly homophobes believe gay men want them.. In fact, I think most of them would become angry if they knew the truth – which is Gay men have very high standards, and most straight homophobes could never meet them :-)

  • AuntieChrist

    I wouldn’t F**K Rodgers with jimbryants D**K he may be a great ball player but he just looks like another ugly meat for brains jock to me.

  • avesraggiana

    @AuntieChrist: But, I LOVE meat for brains jocks! Look, there go my soaked panties sliding down to my ankles! I was watching Aaron Rodgers yesterday. Those meathook hands, those yeti feet, those deep-set blue eyes and that enormous nose…Get me pregnant already!!!

  • stanhope

    Gurl pleeze….did Santa come down your chimney? LOL

  • stanhope

    2 words: Lance Bass 2 more words: Ricky Martin…get the idea?

  • avesraggiana

    @stanhope: Hahaha! Yeah, and now I’m waiting for Aaron Rodgers – to land on my face and wiggle.

  • Niall

    The Fame Driven or whatever its called actually had a stronger case last week. There’s nothing that really goes beyond close friendship in these tweets and pics.

    Though, going to a Justin Beiber concert makes me question his tastes and sensibilities.

  • ppp111

    At this moment I’d be surprised if Rodgers is gay. So far we’ve had some unusual texts and ‘sources’ whom I’m always wary of. I’m more interested in Lanflisi. If I were to judge on first impressions I’d say he was gay or at least bi. As for Rodgers, he can now lay low for the rest of the year till the 2014 season starts. I imagine he’s hoping nothing else comes up between now and pre-season.

  • Teleny

    @litper: I don’t know why he isn’t banned as an obvious right wing troll. He NEVER has anything good to say about lbgt people? It’s a shame that he is allowed to pollute a gay space with his h8 every day.

  • jeffy

    I don’t know either of them at all but here’s one possible scenario. Kevin is gay and in love with Aaron. He finally acted on it and Aaron rebuffed him. I’m probably projecting. In my 20’s, I often befriended straight guys I really really liked and they were just glad to have a friend they enjoyed. Until I would get drunk and make a move. Thank god there was no Twitter when I was in my 20’s.

  • Ms Urethra Johnson

    After wasting a whole afternoon investigating. I have come to the conclusion that this is a smear campaign of some sort…

    BAIT Alert: I think this was “planted” and I am very upset that our fellow “gay media” has helped fan that flame. Makes “us” look like vultures.

    I think Mr Lanflisi and Mr Rodgers are owed retractions and apologies separately and respectively.

    All them photos are from about 1 week to 1 1/2 years ago

    With his best friend scottie_mcneill playing golf, also at his wedding, wedding ban in other pics.
    http://statigr.am/p/621047975717072571_22301498
    http://statigr.am/p/316675030842306495_22301498
    http://statigr.am/p/311711313499221491_22301498

    The original Bieber tix pic
    http://statigr.am/p/299993919684832755_22301498

    The beach pic
    http://statigr.am/p/533441559108480517_22301498

    Take the time to look at his friends and their pics, he’s obviously a good person, not the kind that would post self promoting / cocky / fake Aaron Rodger posts… Then make up your own mind… Reserve your judgement and remember: you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar… This is making us like FOOLS !!!

  • Teleny

    @stanhope: yes, even Oscar Wilde denied being gay before his stint in Reading Prison.

    It appears to me that Kevin is out and gay. Aaron may still be in that stage where he doesn’t know for sure what he is.., Some folks know from birth, but for some of us, particularly those of us who are more bisexual-well it takes more time. I wish them both well.

  • TomMc

    @jimbryant: So male sexuality is predicated upon a part object cathexis?

  • ppp111

    @jeffy:
    I think you may be more right than you know. Just from my perspective, I personally doubt Rodgers is gay, or bisexual for that matter. Of course my gaydar isn’t the best so I could be wrong. As for Lanflisi, it’s highly likely he may have had feelings for Rodgers but it wasn’t reciprocated. I remember during my college years that I had feelings for some straight classmates. It ruined one friendship because I thought we could go further. If I could ever do something over again or if the opportunity ever presented itself I would apologize to him and his family. But alas, that was over 24 years ago. I doubt he even thinks about that to this day.

  • xzall

    The person who could have stopped all these rumors was obviously Kevin Lanflisi. Instead he’s been offline on his Twitter account since December 20th. That’s very telling as he was using social media regularly on both Twitter and instagram before this story broke. The fact he didn’t come out immediately saying how they’re just bros is pretty telling. It’s obvious that Lanflisi is very Christian so he probably doesn’t believe in lying. That’s the only reason I can see for staying quiet. If he had actually commented immediately and treated the whole thing like a joke this story would have gone no where.

  • litper

    Kevin is probably swimming in hush money right now!

  • ppp111

    @xzall:

    If you can believe the claims that are on Fame Driven a ‘spy’ close to the whole thing says that the families of both men were asked not to talk to the media. I feel sorry for Kevin; if it was a one-sided attraction and Aaron turned him down, I guess I’d want to stay out of the spotlight as well. Like I stated in previous posts, if there is more to this story it can well blow up to a point where the NFL has to address it.

  • jeffy

    @ppp111 no need to apologize for being in love with someone – and their family no less! We were young. Straight or gay, you take leaps of faith for the heart. Embarrassing and broken friendships but not a bad thing/crime. Just life.

  • ppp111

    @jeffy:

    Thank you :-)

  • jimbryant

    TomMc,

    Male-male sexuality is the product of orientation and fetish. While orientation is defined in terms of gender interaction, fetish is defined in terms of cathexis (ie the type of person or object which he represents).

    For example, hair on a man’s chest is an “object”. Men who only go for men with hairy chests have a cathexis.

  • samwise343

    @jimbryant: Where exactly do you get these crazy ideas?

  • Kane9

    really the whole Kevin was in love with Aaron for FIVE whole years and just felt like acting on it suddenly and outed him because he was rejected is far less believable than all this. They were obviously together, and i feel sorry for Kevin too.

  • mydude

    @jimbryant: LOL

  • sangsue

    All this means is that guys will have to be even more homophobic now because if they’re friendly to each other or best friends, they’re instantly gay. Even if they aren’t homophobic, unfortunately celebrities and athletes are still in a homophobic business where it can still ruin your career.

  • ppp111

    @sangsue:

    Actually, straight men are like that now. I remember reading a story some years back about men and their best friends. About 80% of men listed their wives as their best friends while less than half of women listed their husbands as their best friends. The article said that homophobia and fear of being labeled as gay prevented most men from even being close to one another.

    Kane9,
    I know where you’re coming from about how someone can live with another for five years then all of a sudden declares his love for him. Still, unless there are some incriminating photos, I’m still a bit wary.

  • DShucking

    Has it been confirmed that the last picture is authentic?

  • colliedude

    C’mon. This whole unrequited love thing is a stretch.

    A few months of living together and Aaron doesn’t know that Kevin is gay, sure, I can buy that.

    Years? Years of Rodgers taking Kevin instead of female dates. Years of clothing coordination. Years of visiting his family together.

    Kevin is obviously gay and the tweets at the very least show he was in love with Rodgers. Are we really to believe it took years for Kevin to make a move that Rodgers rebuffed only then leading to the severance?

    Occam’s razor folks. What’s the explanation that requires the least assumptions?

  • Kane9

    @colliedude: Exactly this! What i cant seem to wrap my mind around is WHAT led to this? I only partially believe the bailing on the NFL come out plans. So sad though…

  • aces1218

    Off topic but I find this funny
    @KevinLanflisi: Playing @AaronRodgers12 in madden is the most frustrating thing. Who knows how to read the protection on a video game?!
    I can honestly see him doing that. The guy hates to lose in anything. I’m the same way.

    I still definitely think Aaron and Kevin had a bromance. Maybe they just drifted apart. After all, it seems like they stopped hanging out when Aaron started going to the weddings with destiny and when he was with her more. There’s no doubt in my mind Aaron and Destiny are/were in a romantic relationship since 2011 at least. He and Kevin just looked like a bromance. Also, some of those lyrics kevin tweeted were Drake lyrics and gospel poem lyrics.

  • aces1218

    @DShucking: I don’t think so. I’m pretty sure the tweet was by himself and that picture is of kevin and another friend. Not of him and Aaron.

  • Kane9

    @aces1218: yes the beach pic is of kevin and another friend and is from 4 months ago. He @’s the person on instagram. How misleading, but imo it changes NOTHING.

    Also,

    possibly yes he was with destiny but also with Kevin and chose the ‘safe’ bet. Intersting

  • colliedude

    @aces1218: Yep just a bromance. Because when all same gender roommates describe the return of their roomate from a business trip as quality family time, it’s just a bromance.

  • aces1218

    @Kane9: it’s definitely more like he was/is with Destiny. There is solid proof of that relationship. I think unless there’s solid proof of Aaron and Kevin having a romance rather than a bromance, then I’m going to go off of what Aaron said, the fact that he addressed it says a lot imo, and the solid proof. I wonder if this will delay his return to Twitter.

  • xzall

    There doesn’t seem to be much evidence of this Destiny romance. The beach pictures are from 2011 and many articles have mentioned the fact that he’s never taken her to any high profile events. He’s certainly taken Kevin to many of the high profile events you normally bring a girlfriend or wife to though, so that suggests he had more of a relationship with him than this girl.

  • ppp111

    There’s an interesting entry on Fame Driven, a supposed tweet from Kevin back in Sep 4. To paraphrase, ‘You should go down to Wal-Mart and see if they sell face paint that makes you look less like the monster you are.’ Okay, I don’t know about you guys but that’s just a little too creepy for me. Maybe Aaron was finally getting the gist of this guy and asked him to leave. Maybe it was just in jest but I’d get a little uneasy if someone was tweeting stuff like this. Reminds me of that movie ‘Single White Female.’ Creepy stuff.

  • xzall

    But I wouldn’t be surprised to see an announcement about an engagement from Aaron Rodgers in the very near future. That’s usually the next step in the deny you’re gay playbook.

  • ppp111

    @xzall:

    Well that’s one way to get a guy to walk down the aisle!

  • Kane9

    @ppp111: if you read the tweet prior hes quoting, a song or a play. Its the tweet immediately before. He does this often, quotes art that is. That like so many of the other tweets are directed at Aaron though imo

  • aces1218

    There is a lot of evidence that shows a relationship between he and Destiny. I can post the pictures or explain all of them if anyone wants. Otherwise, trust me. There is a lot of evidence.

  • Kane9

    @aces1218: is anyone denying this? he was obviously with destiny at one point or other. could very well be with her now but its not as visible as it is with these 2.

  • aces1218

    @Kane9: some have. in all honesty, it’s not surprising that its not as visible. from what ive learned about him in the past 5 years of being a fan is that he is very private about his personal life and has been since 2008. even on his radio show, there are questions he wont answer. It seems strange to me that he would be so open about being seen with a possible boyfriend considering how private he is. yet his relationship with destiny and all his other relationships with girls were kept quiet, apparently he had a girlfriend in 2006 that I don’t think anyone knew about. just my thoughts.

  • ppp111

    @aces1218:

    If we’re to believe the attraction was one-sided, then I could understand Aaron bringing Kevin along. He probably saw it as a way for a friend to experience the limelight like he does, even for a moment. Still, I imagine most straight women would LOVE to walk the red carpet with some fabulous dress on while in the arms of some hunky athlete. We’ve all seen those entertainment shows following some major award show. How many of those segments are always ‘what are you wearing? You look fabulous!’ Kind of funny when you think about it!

  • aces1218

    @ppp111: in all honesty, I’ve always wondered about that. Aaron’s older brother has gone with him to the espys each time, his younger brother went with him to the nfl honors last year, and obviously kevin the year before. The only event Destiny has gone to was a MACC fund event where there’s no red carpet or any sort. Aaron’s obviously very private as he has that right, but I’ve always wondered if it bothered her.

  • ppp111

    @aces1218:

    If they’re still together I imagine it didn’t bother her. Of course, maybe she had to work ;-). Personally, I would have loved to go.

    Anyway, the more I read up on Lanflisi and his tweets, the more and more he seems odd, don’t you think? I still believe that it was a one-sided attraction and Aaron probably saw through him. But at this moment, it’s all speculation. We all know we haven’t seen the last of this.

  • kthcst

    THIS would be my question……WHY IN THE HELL WOULD A FOOTBALL PLAYER MAKING HIS KIND OF MONEY, NEED A ROMATE ANYHOW???? ADMIT IT ALREASDY

  • avesraggiana

    Destiny. Sounds like a stripper.

  • colliedude

    @aces1218: Relationship with Destiny or Kevin, which is it?

    When Eric Decker tripped on field, his girlfriend / wife (not sure what she was at the time) described the cause as Decker’s third leg.

    In the middle of a controversy such as this, Destiny apparently won’t even say she’s dating Rodgers.

    Kevin talked about nothing other than Rodgers.

    Which one seems to have the more familiar relationship with the guy?

    OK so not everyone is as public as Decker’s wife, but why would somebody in a relationship be unwilling to even acknowledge that basic detail? If you’re dating one of the biggest stars in the NFL, you’d be talking about it (even if on more polite terms than Decker’s wife). Kevin was non-stop talking. Destiny, nothing.

    Sure all this stuff is circumstantial, but there’s a whole lot of circumstance here.

  • jimbryant

    The problem with a lot of you gay guys is that you see men through their crotches rather than through their minds. This means that you cannot relate to men in a spirit of camaraderie.

    As a consequence, you have sought to re-define male-male relationships according to your sex-centric world view of men. Your distorted views can be compared to nymphomaniacs – ie women who have an insatiable appetite for men. It is a personality disorder.

    I’m not saying that homosexuality is a personality disorder. Rather, I’m saying that your gravitate towards the type of behavior exhibited by nymphomaniacs, a behaviour with known psychological roots.

  • Kane9

    @colliedude: they were lovers, i mean really ya’ll, really.

  • Ms Urethra Johnson

    I had posted links to the original pics from Kev’s Instagram account…in a previous post that is STILL pending moderation?
    Anywho…
    After much digging… wasted all of yesterday’s afternoon researching this… Kevin is part of some sort of Christian organization. He was at the Ponderosa summer camp that is held at the Hume Lake Christian Camp Grounds… I think Aaron was genuinely helping his fellow Christian friend… from simpler means. I personally don’t care for Jebus Freaks, but still, I’m willing to grasp the concept of a “Kumbaya” type relationship. He seems like a nice young man. I would wish for the sake of future “gay membership” applicants, that their private lives be respected. Unless they are toxic anti-gay loudmouths / politicians… then go ahead EXPOSE the douches. But remember “you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar”. No wonder Pro-sport athletes are horrified at the concept of coming out… “WE” seem to be vulture-like sometimes. This incessant gossiping doesn’t make it too welcoming.

  • Ms Urethra Johnson

    After doing all this “internet stalking”, I actually feel bad for both of them. Most of his past clients are married HOT men of “better” means. I found a really good pic of one of Kev’s friends with Aaron… that friend was also in church with Kevin, so… am not sharing the address though… out of respect for those innocent bistanders. And @Kevin_Lanflisi, my heart goes out to you buddy, wish I could help you in some way. Forgive some of our fellow LGBT friends for being so agressive. Tolerance for everyone. I count (duck and cover) a certain “Nick” as a personal friend of mine. I’m the one who told him to:”…NEVER do porn again if you want to be taken seriously as a model”. I’ve seen what “they” have done to him on this site over the last few years, sometimes our community gets real ugly, gay-on-gay bashing, so if you, Kevin, can remain a private person, I would highly recommand it. Best wishes…XOXOX Pierre

  • MK Ultra

    I’m completely disinterested in this.
    But my opinion is the guy is gay, just by looking at some of the hilariously obsessive comments on here trying to “preserve” this guy’s heterosexual image. Troll Harder….
    Plus, major LOL @ “I really, really like girls”, “good christian”, and the name “Destiny”.

  • Kane9

    Just listen to the confession. He basically stops himself from saying “I like my life how it is” ergo, in the CLOSET! Then he finishes with “I think personal is personal, and professional is professional, and thats how im gonna keep it”. Kind of like he had and ‘aha moment’, OR someone homophobic and pro sports douche talked some hetero sense into him, tbt it was probably ownership or management or BOTH. There is no way that AARON RODGERS’ name is on a list of gay NFL stars soon to come out and the real people in charge dont get wind of it.

    And Ms. Johnson,

    Kevin is a kind upstanding believer in Christ, just like his former lover Rodgers is as well.

  • ppp111

    @Ms Urethra Johnson:

    Most of his past clients are HOT men of better means. So rodgers was some sort of client? Was Kevin a spiritual leader or advisor of some sort? That comment just caught my attention. I know that there are gay and lesbian Christians who struggle daily with their lives while trying to follow their religion and it’s teachings.

  • ppp111

    The sad thing is that if, and that’s a very big IF, Rodgers was exposed and came out, he would receive acceptance at first. But eventually the rabid zealous fans would make their voices heard and it would only be a matter of time before he would be released because that kind of attention isn’t something most organizations would want.

  • Kane9

    which is why he never will

  • TomMc

    [email protected]ppp111: “But eventually the rabid zealous fans would make their voices heard and it would only be a matter of time before he would be released because that kind of attention isn’t something most organizations would want.”

    Indeed.

    From: http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/team/green-bay-packers/salary/67046?q=green-bay-packers

    #3. Aaron Rodgers $4,500,000

    … and From: http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/436803-aaron-rodgers-im-very-disappointed-and-frusterated-after-playoff-loss/

    “It’s been nine years for me now. (I’ve been) blessed to play that long and would love to play another nine if possible. But this
    is an opportunity we let slip through our fingers.”

  • TomMc

    @ppp111: “But eventually the rabid zealous fans would make their voices heard and it would only be a matter of time before he would be released because that kind of attention isn’t something most organizations would want.”

    Indeed.

    From: http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/team/green-bay-packers/salary/67046?q=green-bay-packers

    #3. Aaron Rodgers $4,500,000

    … and From: http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/436803-aaron-rodgers-im-very-disappointed-and-frusterated-after-playoff-loss/

    “It’s been nine years for me now. (I’ve been) blessed to play that long and would love to play another nine if possible. But this is an opportunity we let slip through our fingers.”

  • Kane9

    @TomMc: as a fan of the sport pretty sure the bolded was a direct reference to the one player whos name i cant recall at the time dropping the ball when he should have caught it which would have changed the game.

    Anyhoo i was more intrigued at the undertone of sadness in this postgame interview. He said something to the affect of being “down”. But he looks straight into the camera and perhaps he was down about something else. hmmm

  • sangsue

    This isn’t a closeted congressman passing anti-GLBT legislation. This is an athlete.

    Why does he owe it anyone to come out if indeed there is coming out to do?

    Why do athletes and celebrities need to be stalked and hunted into “shaming” them into coming out if there is coming out to do?

    What is the difference between

    “Hey, he’s been playing straight all this time but he’s really gay! He should be ashamed of himself!”

    and

    “Hey, he’s been playing straight all this time but he’s really gay! He should be ashamed of himself for being closeted!”

    Only the intent. A witch-hunt is a witch-hunt no matter the intent.

  • ppp111

    @Kane9:

    Come on, you may be reading into it too much. I think he was just upset with the loss. Although the Lanflisi situation crossed my mind, I’ll give Rodgers credit that he is too disciplined an athlete to let private issues cloud his judgment. Besides, can you imagine the internet traffic on the football forums that he was distracted by an alleged affair? The homophobic attacks would be merciless.

  • aces1218

    @Kane9: I think you might mean Micah Hyde who was unable to catch an interception that would have been huge. But as far as the press conference, his press conferences after playoff losses are always depressing and he always has that tone and always blames himself for the losses. He’s even still somewhat depressing the following Tuesday on his radio show. He seems to be good at not letting things unrelated to football affect him.

  • TomMc

    @Kane9: Yeah, yes I kinda knew that. Thanks for being kind with your comment regardless.

    What happened though, with my post, was I thought that the underline HTML thingie would work too on here. It doesn’t.

    In my original, rather the second post, as the original didn’t contain any formatting, I HTML *underlined* things pertaining to “9” and “long” and “slipping through” and “fingers” and etc.

    (In my defense, it seemed funny after a few beers… Haha)

    Again, I appreciate you informing me of any misunderstanding in a very gentlemanly way. Thank you Kane9.

  • TomMc

    @jimbryant: “Male-male sexuality is the product of orientation and fetish. While orientation is defined in terms of gender interaction, fetish is defined in terms of cathexis (ie the type of person or object which he represents). For example, hair on a man’s chest is an “object”. Men who only go for men with hairy chests have a cathexis.”

    Like our straight buddies who only go for chicks with big tits, and/or those dudes who prefer ladies with ‘lotsa junk in the trunk’, let alone the men who’re simply content with *any* tight (only young 20-something) p***y pal?

  • TomMc

    Then again jimbryant, I did ask you that. No, it was not any kinda ‘ambush’ attempt. I was trying to ascertain your affinity to the classical Freudian canon.

    Apologies if that offended you jb.

    Suffice to say, I don’t think that *all* male sexuality is predicated upon ‘part object cathexes’. Some guys are actually able to look at people without focusing on their parts (or so I’ve heard/read… haha).

    That penned, and more seriously, lotsa *women* only go for hung guys, and/or dudes with tight bubble butts, and/or those with money, and/or hugh chests, and/or high ‘status’.

    Eh?

  • SoWhat

    @kthcst:

    Hey “kthcst”, you can’t even spell “roommate” or “already”, so, why would we care what you say. And, furthermore, it’s none of anyone’s goddam business (including yours)whether Aaron & Kevin are romantically involved. I’m sick of all forms of the media, and the people who are addicted to it, deciding for themselves that someone should be “outed” or have their private life scrutinized by anyone & everyone who so chooses. Screw all of you, and all of them!! Just because someone is in the public eye is not an excuse for them to be fodder for everyone who chooses to speculate, criticize, and JUDGE. It’s Aaron & Kevin’s private lives, so, let them the “F” alone. My own mother outed me to my former mother-in-law, and people to whom I relate this, are appalled & disgusted. My mother is rotting in Hell for Eternity. So, all of you Busy-Bodies, keep your mouth shut, now & forever. Go do something kind & constructive.

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