Gay people were just so much nicer in the 1990s, right? That appears to be the views of the right-wing author and podcast host Candace Owens.
Owens took to Twitter this week to complain about today’s “obnoxious” gays.
“When did being lesbian or gay become an entire, annoying personality?” she tweeted. “In the 90’s people were just gay or lesbian and went about their business like normal people. Today it’s an entire act featuring rainbows, sprinkles, confetti, parades and sexual debauchery. Obnoxious.”
In a follow-up tweet, she said, “I just want young kids that are growing up to know that gay people weren’t this annoying in the 90’s. They were just regular people. Not tik-toking theatre kids.”
Owens, 33, and was born in 1989. It’s not unusual for someone to look back on their formative years with nostalgia… but did Owens even encounter that many gay people as a child in the 1990s? Or is that the whole point: The less seen and heard, the better?
Online, many sought to educate her.
Since you were a mere child in the ’90s – a brief history lesson: In the 90’s we could be fired for merely “going about our business.” Gay people were murdered and killers could legally use the “gay panic” defense. Maybe, stick to trying to make Blexit happen. 🙏🏽
— Jeffrey Reddick 🌈👻 (@JeffreyaReddick) April 19, 2023
In the 90s most gay people were in the closet, pretending to be straight.
— Dr. Nicole LePera (@Theholisticpsyc) April 19, 2023
Matthew Shepard🏳️🌈 and Brandon Teena🏳️⚧️; didn’t get to go about their business, like normal people in the 90’s. So that’s a lie. pic.twitter.com/0Jf0IzmCuE
— 🗞HiphOperaGanda🎨 (@hiphoperaganda) April 19, 2023
Ya! Why can’t gay people just go back to how great things were in the 90s!? pic.twitter.com/8DyRI3dIoW
— Eric Vallillee (@EricMVallillee) April 19, 2023
In the 90s, most of those people that were gay stayed in the closet for decades, some even got married and had whole families, because they were afraid to come out to family, friends, and society back then. Young kids now do not have to worry about as much.
— Coach Johnson (@CoachJo91518666) April 18, 2023
Let’s also not forget AIDS was still decimating our community in the early 1990s. It spurned on protest groups such as ACT-UP.
Candace – you need to read a book about LGBT history. No one minded their business in the 80s and 90s. https://t.co/844SkpKtw4
— Joseph Sciambra ☦ (@JosephSciambra) April 18, 2023
Thanks to advances in rights and an increase in representation, many more gay people feel able to be out and live their authentic lives. This seems to upset Owens deeply. Plenty of others chipped in with their thoughts.
@RealCandaceO Wow, it’s almost like marginalized communities finally have the freedom to express themselves openly and proudly without fear of persecution. How annoying, right?
— Shing ha (@ReplyGPT) April 18, 2023
Sweetie, we were absolutely just as annoying in the 90’s. The only difference is that all of our antics are on VHS tapes from camcorders.
— Gerri Kellman’s Hat (@vast_differ3nce) April 19, 2023
We didn’t need tik tok.. we were too busy making great live theater. 😆
— Sampson (@OfficialSampson) April 18, 2023
Anyway, in other Candace Owens-related news, she also recently questioned whether women are “too emotional” to be trusted with the vote. Seems like she wants to turn the clock back way further than the 1990s.
Related:
Candace Owens rages over Muppets “pushing trans agenda”, wants return of “Manly Muppets”
Bring back Bert and Ernie!
dbmcvey
And the grift goes on.
Diplomat
It’s unfortunate it has come to this:
This just in from Talk.tv:
“My life has changed forever” Volleyball student hit in the face by biological male.
North Carolina high school volleyball player has called for an end to biological men competing in women’s sports after she was severely injured by a strike from a trans athlete on the opposing team.
Payton McNabb, who attends Hiwassee Dam High School, was left with concussion, a neck injury, partial paralysis, and impaired learning which she says has changed her life forever….
Full article on Talk.tv.
dbmcvey
So you’re suggesting we go to a right wing site owned by Rupert Murdock?
abfab
Sounds about right! Dipshit returns with bells on. Dee, I give you lots of credit for responding to these maggots who don’t belong here. But I must say, it does keep it festive. Now…let’s all go over to talktv and become informed citizens.
abfab
I bet you have the hots for Rebekah Brookes, DIppy
Diplomat
Thank God the law is on my side. Gotchya there transies. Why don’t you go to a site where you’re actually wanted? Gays have had it with you.
abfab
You’re off your rocker for real now.
Diplomat
Ya right….17 states and counting. As an alien life form why are you here? Did you destroy your home planet?
abfab
Uh, oh.
Bosch
Something very similar happened to Hayley Hodson in 2015, except that was because of a female player. So let’s also ban cis women from women’s sports.
“Gotchya there transies” makes you sound SUPER reasonable.
Diplomat
Bosch,
You forgot one thing, two women having a sports accident is a level playing field. Not so between a man and a woman. But Hodson was hit with volleyballs, not a man’s bare fist to the face. The two aren’t really comparable.
I’m very reasonable. Men w woman brain don’t belong on women’s sports teams or getting naked in women’s locker rooms. The disrespect for real women by trans types is so blatant it’s rediculous. They’ve dragged the gay community right down the tubes w their delusional demands.
My logic is invariably quite simple to the rational mind.
mailliw110
So, you agree that women should stay in the kitchen and make babies? Because sports are WAY to hard for them.
Bosch
Diplomat, I see what you’re saying. But don’t forget that we only see the strong trans athletes and the winning trans athletes in these stories. The petite ones and the losing ones don’t make the news.
Maybe dividing sports by sex is stupid, and athletes should be categorised more by performance classes, like in boxing. Then it wouldn’t be such a scandal when cis women are barred from competing in women’s events due to naturally high testosterone levels.
Diplomat
That’s a thought but it wouldn’t take care of the biomales in women’s locker rooms issue. Any ideas?
still_onthemark
@Dip: I’ve noticed that if you want to be a trans ally nowadays, it helps to be a flat-out misogynist.
If a bio-woman is concerned about seeing a p*nis dangling (flaccidly, one hopes) in the women’s locker room, you should say “Calm down, don’t get hysterical.” Women always respond well to that sort of approach.
If that doesn’t work, just say “Gen Z is totally cool with it. You must be OLD!” Women love being called old!
Diplomat
Good to see they have a lawyer on this case…
Fox News reports today:
Trans woman (translation: bio male attracted to women) showered with four Wisconsin high school girls, violated their privacy, letter to district claims
Letter alleges trans woman exposed private area to underage girls
Joshua Q. Nelson By Joshua Q. Nelson | Fox News
A letter sent by a law group on Thursday claimed that the Wisconsin-based Sun Praire Area School District [SPASD] has not “adequately” addressed a violation of students’ privacy rights after a transgender woman (age 18) walked into a shower naked with four high school freshmen girls (age 15) inside of it.
Continue reading on Fox news…
dbmcvey
And now you’re suggesting we go to Fox News? An organization best known for lying?
Diplomat
It’s good the principal states it should never have happened. Anything to take your trans asses from where they don’t belong.
Diplomat
You transy women are straight males looking to jack up women’s spaces for your own sex perverted pleasures. We get your M.O.
ShaverC
She’s right. Back than we just wanted to be like everyone else and most people accepted that. Now it’s a demand for respect without giving any in return.
abfab
So says a most disrespectful man…..
Kangol2
No, “most people accepted that” is completely WRONG. You not only have zero sense of history but you believe whatever garbage FoxNews spews, as your incoherent responses about Don the Con revealed. Please go read a history book, and you might learn something about LGBTQ people’s lives in the 70s, 80s, 90s, 2000s, and today!
Bosch
“Now it’s a demand for respect without giving any in return.”
Really? We don’t respect our straight parents and our straight family members and our straight friends? We’re disowning our straight children? Were making it illegal to discuss heterosexuality in schools? We complain when there are straight characters in our TV shows? We’re firing people for being straight? We’re beating and murdering people for being straight?
Your “I’m not like other girls” attitude is transparant. You’re not going to bridge the gap between homophobes and homosexuals by showing them we can also be homophobic.
ShaverC
Kangol2, I was in my 20’s in the 90’s and I can definitely say, my experience was, that most people didn’t care what I was. I just wanted to work, have a nice apartment, continue through school, etc. What Candace is saying is just that, we just wanted to be part of society. She then says that younger gay people now are not like that, but are rude, tik tok obsessed narcissistic and annoying, yet demanding that society accept them, even though they are so angry that they hate society. And yes I know my history.
Bosch, you’re argument is nonsense and you know it.
Bosch
Yeah, yeah, you’re not like other girls.
None of the qualities you list are unique to gay people.
You want to talk about demanding acceptance, we’re currently watching Americans demand that society accept their racism and homophobia. Straight white boys crying because their bigotry gets criticized.
Maybe TikTok isn’t a good representation of society? Could that have something to do with it? Social media platforms like that only attract narcissists by default.
ShaverC
That’s exactly it, Tik Tok attracts narcissist. LOTS of them.
Bosch
So then don’t use criticism of the tik-tok audience to stereotype “younger gay people now”.
It’s normal to think “kids these days” when you’re an old fart. It’s not normal to use that sentiment as a justification for homophobia.
And the fact that you had it easy in the 90s is quite a useless bit of information for people like Matthew Shepard.
mailliw110
Another child who missed out on Reagan ignoring the AIDS epidemic.
dbmcvey
This is a history that never existed. This “back then” you reference is in your imagination.
PinkoOfTheGange
For most of the 90’s I was taking care of sick friends and going to funerals.
I was also arranging bail for people arrested for protesting.
And then there was the testing one of the general’s corp policy of not discriminating against the tribe.
What you describe was the homosexuals not the gays.
dbmcvey
How old are you ShaverC? Because you certainly weren’t around in the ’90s.
hwgusn
If there is a god coming back for these people, I wish it would hurry tf up so the rest of us can get on with our lives.
abfab
I agree, but they do make for interesting term papers in Psych 101 class.
still_onthemark
“Tik-toking theater kids” is a pretty lame insult. Almost a compliment. But it does kind of scream that she was probably a jock who bullied theater kids.
Also, are they toking while they’re tik-toking?
Kangol2
Candace Owens is the same dunderhead who thought Adolf Hitler wasn’t so bad. She is a self-loathing Black woman, whom a White classmate racially abused, even threatening to kill her, when she was a high school senior (her father even had to sue the school district on her behalf), and she apparently suffered a form of Stockholm Syndrome as a result.
She’s homophobic and transphobic as well, and was closely linked to rabid anti-Semite Kanye West. She’s bad news all around and shouldn’t be given any press attention at all, especially since she craves it so badly.
oBose
Dear Ms. Owens…
In the early-to-mid 1990s, you were the same age as my 3 kids as my wife and I were working our way through a contentious divorce. My co-parent’s attorney insisted at our divorce trial, as a gay parent, I should never have unsupervised time with the kids due to my likelihood to abuse them because of my orientation.
To whatever extent you believe “gay people weren’t this annoying in the 90’s, they were just regular people, not tik-toking theatre kids,” my co-parent and her attorney begged and argued to differ. Despite their efforts, my attorney and I calmly laid out longitudinal studies showing that kids were not harmed by having LGBTQ+ parents.
It was already unusual for a divorce to go to a day-and-a-half trial after all of the financial/property-related matters had been settled. The judge admitted as much in a closing statement in which he also credited all involved for enhancing his understanding of the issues related to gay parents. He ruled entirely in support of my attorney’s evidence-based arguments that I was an ordinary dad, no threat to my kids.
Come back to me, Ms. Owens, to whatever extent you believe the 1994 Don’t Ask/Don’t Tell policy wasn’t annoying, or that the debut of “Will and Grace” in 1998 proved that LGBTQ+ people and their concerns weren’t “annoying in the 90’s, they were just regular people”…
Bosch
It’s all part of the Republic playbook to turn society’s minorities against each other. Divide and conquer.
Good thing not everyone is stupid enough to fall for it. This sour bimbo though…
ShaverC
In the US who is currently dividing people? Who called the right a “basket of deplorables”? What party is constantly saying “us versus them”? Who pushed the rhetoric if you didn’t believe masks worked you’re no better than a n@zi? The left is far more divisive. Even in their own cliques they continue to divide. Rainbow flag isn’t good enough there needs to be a color for every subsection. It’s just divide divide divide.
Diplomat
ShaverC,
Bosch is right. One word says it all concerning republican division: Trump. His big lie has almost destroyed democracy. There’s never been anything more divisive politically in this country’s history. If you don’t understand that you may want to go back to the political climate in this country and take another look.
ShaverC
Diplomat, Are you happy wearing those blinders?
Diplomat
If you have a more divisive example which you don’t, bring it, Your silly comment hardly substantiates your position.
Bosch
‘What party is constantly saying “us versus them”?’
Is that a serious question? Since 2016, nothing but liberals this, leftists that, cultural Marxism, stupid socialists, the gays, black people, trans people, women’s reproductive systems, Muslims, saying “happy holidays”, covid-measures, Disney, the popular vote…
PS “basket of deplorables” wasn’t about the right, it was about Trump supporters. I think, in retrospect, a very accurate description.
You conflate distinction with division. And what you’ve really put your finger on is that the left is a diverse group, while the right is 99% hetero wonderbread mayonaise sandwiches.
ShaverC
Bosch, I wish I was a roasted garlic aioli on rustic, artisanal sour dough like you. You’re better than everyone.
Diplomat
Damn that sounds so good right now. Yum.
dbmcvey
@ShaverC
What a coincidence! I wish you were a roasted garlic aioli on rustic, artisanal sour dough too!
Jim
“When did being a black female become an entire, annoying personality?”
Sorry but this woman needs to get a clue.
Herman75
Black women were so much more fun in the old days.
Like on The Jeffersons.
mailliw110
I’m thinking her own black people were annoying to her back in the 50’s and 60’s when fighting for equal rights?
dmarcus
Honest question. Is she really that dumb? Technology has far advanced 30 years ago. Internet personality and LGBTQ activism are different subjects. I find TikTok in general annoying but for her to say we (LGBT) were better in the 90s when she was too young to know queer activism or queer ppl is another dumb thing she has said. First not that many ppl were out, HIV/ AIDS has a negative stigma, gay ppl can get fired for being gay, we can’t get married, can’t adopt, actual gay ppl on tv shows would get cancelled, can’t visit/ make decisions for our partners at hospitals, so much legal stuff if burial & inheritance, Don’t Ask Don’t Tell, and of course hate crimes. All there was were news outlets and talk shows… if the producers decided we should be there.
And Miss Owens when we were on tv, we let it ripped. LGBT ppl activated for the future younger generations when they were ALLOWED to be on tv because that was the only time queer ppl could be heard. Besides that we kept on protesting out in the streets and published our own newspaper. You can literally look these up. Even in the 70s: Anita Bryant pie face. 80s ACT Up NY Stock Exchange Protest. 90s Matthew Shepard protests & Ellen’s coming out. 2000s Marriage Equality protests.
In 2007, Logo, a LGBT channel hosted a presidential forum on the topic of LGBTQ rights. All Democrat nominees attended while all the Republican nominees didn’t.
Kangol2
She really IS that dumb! And she’s self-loathing and pathetic. And praised Hitler. She’s beyond disgusting!
dmarcus
Since when did being a black female Christian Republican with bad foundation and “I’m not like other black girls,” a personality trait?
Also she’s in her early 30s?!?! Girl I thought she is in her LATE 40s. Drag Kings have better choices in makeup.
monty clift
“She” honestly looks like a man in a cheap wig.