Guess what! Don’t Ask Don’t Tell is still big news! Rep. Patrick Murphy isn’t helping things, of course, with last night’s House floor speeches, drumming up all that unnecessary controversy. But that National Guard lieutenant Dan Choi keeps bringing it up, too. Who do these people think they are, continuing to discuss the rights of homosexuals?
It was Choi v. the Center for Military Readiness’s Elaine Donnelly, who repeated those tired arguments about morale and military readiness to keep the gays out. Everyone give this woman a round of applause, because she’s doing more to help our cause than anyone else!
Okay, maybe not anyone else. Rep. Louie Gohmert, a Republican from Texas who voters actually elected to office, did a pretty fine job last night for gay rights, too. It’s always remarkable to see Republicans come to the defense of criminals and murderers only when it means they get to keep gay Americans as second-class.
Michael vdB
Mr. Gohmert should know that Republicans like to use that arguement all the time to blame many religious Islamic leaders of inciting violence. If religious leaders want to incite violence then they should be held accountable. BUT there is a difference between being in disagreement on an issue and being out there inciting violence. Not once (maybe I am wrong), I have not heard Dr. James Dobson say that all gays should be put to death, beaten up, or thrown into a vat of silly putty (you get my drift).
As for the first clip…where do they find these people? Mr. Choi did wonderfully and Mr. Cooper actually showed some balls.
Keep up the fight cause the arguments just keep on falling away.
kiltnc
Keep up the good fight Choi!
Michael @ LeonardMatlovich.com
Dan did great considering the circumstances of facing off against a rabid homohating MACHINE and trying to appear “nice”…Donnelly finally pissed off referee Cooper, too.
Anyone around DC Saturday can thank Dan Choi in person for his continuing leadership against rabid homohaters like Donnelly [he’s been crisscrossing the country since coming out in March] at the DADT Protest and Memorial for Leonard Matlovich this Saturday at 2 pm.
Ending DADT is stuck in a ditch INDEFINITELY and it’s only going to get pulled out if we DEMAND it! 440 more discharged since O took office!
Anthony Woods and Eric Alva will also be speaking plus Frank Kameny, Troy Perry, and discharged veterans from the ’93 effort to lift the ban.
Congressional Cemetery
1801 E Street SE at Potomac Avenue – Washington DC
[Within walking distance of Potomac Ave & Stadium-Armory DC Metro stations.]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzFSgI1_FK8
PS: Dan didn’t get a chance to point out what the PBS NewsHour reported in June re Donnelly’s letter: “One general expressed surprise his name was even on the list, since he says he had never agreed to sign the letter, and at least three officers listed as signatories are dead.”
SBK
What a vile woman that Elaine Donnelly is.
Brian
Rep. Louie Gohmert, a Baptist, referenced the fact that Preachers teach that “homosexuality is wrong.” Baptist = Christian. Christian = Religion.
nikko
She’s an unbelievable bigot and bimbo.
Mack
Dan Choi and Anderson Cooper made Donnelly look like a complete fool last night. I loved it.
Jason
PWNED.
faunce
mm choi is hot.
B
Brian, after repeating his mantra, wrote, “Baptist = Christian. Christian = Religion”. Let me suggest that Brian take a course in mathematics. Equality is an equivalence relation and thus must be reflexive (a = a), symmetric (if a = b then b = a) and transitive (if a = b and b = c then a = c). Not all Christians are Baptists, and Buddhism, Islam, and Hinduism are also religions. Ergo, Brain is full of you know what.
TikiHead
@ B: I blame the gays for any bigotry that might be found among Christians. I mean, it’s not like they could ever learn bigotry in church. There’s nothing in the Bible or Christian tradi– what? There is? Oh…
Never mind.
B
TikiHead wrote, “@ B: I blame the gays for any bigotry that might be found among Christians. I mean, it’s not like they could ever learn bigotry in church. There’s nothing in the Bible or Christian tradi– what? There is? Oh…” … thus making Tikihead as dumb as the Christians (even accounting for his attempt at sarcasm).
The fact is that some Christian sects are homophobic and others are not. Of the ones that are, it is not clear if religion is ultimately responsible as it is not uncommon for people to read their prejudices into religious texts as a way of justifying their prejudices. When this happens, a religious institution may simply act as an amplifier, echoing back existing beliefs and possibly reinforcing those beliefs, whatever those beliefs happen to be.
We do know that Roman beliefs about homosexuality (and sex in general) became more conservative as the empire deteriorated, and that this predated the Christian (really, Roman Catholic) takeover. So you could just as well blame Nero and his successors for mismanaging the Roman Empire so badly that the economic pressure and other disfunctionality helped push people in a more authoritian/conservative direction.
schlukitz
You can call me a misogynist if you will, but Donnelly is an arrogant, contemptuous, homo-hating cow. She is right up there with Anita Bryant and Sally Kern.
As for arresting Priests, Rabbis and Imans for saying that homosexuality is wrong, sinful and deviant, I say they should be arrested and tried for their complicity in the brutal beatings and murders of innocent LGBT people, worldwide. They advocated, aided and abetted bringing it about.
Would anyone, in this day and age, tolerate and support any religious view that suggests that blacks, Latinos, Muslims or any other minority members, for that matter, be beaten and murdered because of something the Bible, the Torah or the Koran says?
So why is it then, that the people who hold up the Bible, the Torah and the Koran as the inerrant word of God can condemn and call for the mistreatment and the death of LBGT people with impunity?
Just because their God says so in some ancient collection of ignorance from the dark ages?
There was a time in this country when black people were lynched by white people for the very same reasons. It wasn’t right then. What makes it right now?
Just sayin’.