Back when
Barack Obama first took office, his tech wizards quickly revamped the WhiteHouse.gov website with some slick new features all while the new president was taking his oath of office. And perhaps more importantly, an easy-to-follow menu of where our new commander-in-chief stood on certain issues became available. Gay activists were particularly excited about the entire section devoted to LGBT rights on WhiteHouse.gov’s Civil Rights section, which took up nearly half the page. There was talk about his support for ENDA, repealing
Don’t Ask Don’t Tell, supporting civil unions and repealing DOMA, beefing up the nationa’s HIV/AIDS strategy, and ensuring adoption rights for gays. “This is all in writing! On the President’s Web site!,”
cheerfully reported Gay.com. Well, uh, all of that is now gone from Obama’s homepage. Still not asking yourselves what Obama has done for gays lately?
The only remaining language specific to gays in the Civil Rights section is
the paragraph on “Strengthen Anti-Discrimination Laws” and a mention of “strengthening” hate crimes legislation As
AmericaBlog notes, the language about DOMA has changed, too: “[President Obama] supports changing Don’t Ask Don’t Tell in a sensible way that strengthens our armed forces and our national security…” Yes, repealing DADT is now all about “changing” it.
But didn’t things look different on January 21, when Obama took office? Yes, they did.
Center For Inquiry:
The new website’s policy agenda contains a lengthy description of proposed civil rights initiatives to promote equal rights for the LGBT community. Many of these initiatives were staunchly opposed by George W. Bush’s conservative Christian base, including a bill to ban workplace discrimination, support for civil unions, opposition to a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage, and the expansion of adoption rights. Noticeably absent from the new website are the pages formerly devoted to George Bush’s Faith Based Community Initiative, a program that drew fire from both religious and secular defenders of church-state separation.
Why the changes? Explains the White House in a statement: “As is the case with most websites, periodic changes are made to WhiteHouse.gov. Recently we overhauled the issues section to concisely reflect the President’s broad agenda, and will continue to update these pages. The President’s commitment on LGBT issues has not changed, and any suggestions to the contrary are false.”
Except: Those suggestions are not.
We’ve dutifully explained how Obama has done squat for the GLBT community since landing in the White House. His silence on Iraq’s gay murders. His non-existent deadline for repealing DADT.
His 11th hour support for Congress passing hate crimes legislation.
And now, right on his website, Barack Obama has all but erased —
literally — his support of gay rights. Just one example: The website’s explanation of where Obama stands on Don’t Ask Don’t Tell. Previously, it read:
Repeal Don’t Ask-Don’t Tell:
President Obama agrees with former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff John Shalikashvili and other military experts that we need to repeal the “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy. The key test for military service should be patriotism, a sense of duty, and a willingness to serve. Discrimination should be prohibited. The U.S. government has spent millions of dollars replacing troops kicked out of the military because of their sexual orientation. Additionally, more than 300 language experts have been fired under this policy, including more than 50 who are fluent in Arabic. The President will work with military leaders to repeal the current policy and ensure it helps accomplish our national defense goals.
Huh. Funny how things change.
But go ahead, keep supporting President Obama. We could find 250 things to commend him for in his 100 days. But now go ahead and excuse him for only being in office 100 days without helping the gay community — and know that he had enough time to update his website and strip away almost every promise he made to us during the campaign.
UPDATE: After a stream of phone calls and email messages into the White House asking what was going on, WhiteHouse.gov has been updated with Obama’s stance once again appearing. The White House media affairs office tells
Queerty the site was undergoing an overhaul, and many sections were affected, including the Civil Rights page. The new Civil Rights page now includes more information, but it no longer as robust as the original version.
(Want to see what Obama’s Civil Rights page used to look like? Click to the next page) 
andy
Yes this is all very depressing and reminds me of Bill Clinton. Why is it still ok to be against gay rights or even to be on the fence on the issue. This is really black and white. We need protection!
Dabq
yawn, more of the daily Obama bashing.
Chitown Kev
And given the severity of these changes, a spokesperson for the Obama Administration should come out and explain this. And fuck the spin. Especially on the DADT thang.
That’s keeping the pressure on, which is what I have supported all along.
InExile
Well, looks like the bus has arrived! Who wants to be the first thrown under it?
If Donna Brazil and Nancy Pelosi had not put the fix in for BO, we would not be having this conversation.
Chitown Kev
@andy:
Exactly!
Alec
DADT is troubling. That is an area where he should be doing more work, and I’m very concerned by the language coming from the administration.
Apart from that, is he refusing to sign the hate crimes legislation, ENDA, the Uniting Famiies Act, etc.? Because until he does, it is alarmism. And unwarranted.
rogue dandelion
your tone is overly bitter and sarcastic, but point taken. It confirms what I’ve thought for a while- if we want equal rights, we have to get them ourselves. The best we can hope from the current president is to not actively impede those efforts or campaign specifically against us.
That is a bit depressing.
Alec
@InExile: You’re kidding, right?
What is it with this irrational Obama hatred? Criticize him, but he isn’t the antichrist.
Chitown Kev
@Alec:
The Obama Administration needs to do more than simply issue a statement. Talk to our community. Send a spokesperson to sit down with Olberman, Maddow, or A. Cooper (in my order of preference).
Bill Perdue
Is anyone surprised? The man’s a bigot.
And now for the Democratic apologists (sic) responses:
I. He’s a savior and you’re crucifying him. Poor, poor Obama.
II. Give him a few years.
III. It’s a technical error.
IV. We’re being tested to see if we’re worthy.
V. I can read Obama’s mind and I know, deep in my heart, that he loves us.
VI. This is all a Republican plot to embarrass the best President in the whole wide world.
D-Sun
Well, “hope and change” was fun while it lasted.
Chitown Kev
@Bill Perdue:
As Andy said, sounds like Bill Clinton to me. And we should not let Obama get away with it. Not with the public more in our favor than ever.
Alec
@Chitown Kev: I’d prefer they talk with someone from Lambda Legal. But I agree, especially on DADT. DADT is very, very troubling.
Andrew Triska
@Alec: I guess it’s the disappointment. No one expected a lot from Bush, so saying “Bush is a bigot” got old after a while. But we had high hopes for Obama’s treatment of gays after all the campaign promises. It’s still not too late, though — that is, if he gets his act together, repeals DOMA and DODT, and comes out in support (rather than passive tolerance) of the gay community.
Alec
@Andrew Triska: I share in the disappointment (primarily on DADT, which appears to be a problem), but I still see him as mostly on our side. Folks, they’re drawing up plans for domestic partnership benefits for federal employees, he’ll sign the Matt Shepard Act…keep it in perspective.
But he MUST be pushed on DADT. I see every sign that they’re pulling away from a fight with the military leadership.
InExile
@Alec: Unfortunately, no I am not kidding! They both changed the rules, pressured others to drop Hillary and support BO, and awarded him delegates he did not earn.
The plan he used to have was a xerox of Hillary’s plan, guess when you adopt a plan from someone else, you can just drop it if you want???
Some seem surprised but the signs were there all along starting with all his entanglements with religious leaders, support for “faith based” whatever they are called and so on.
Blind Faith is a dangerous thing!
james p. p.
I’m not for the removing of all this stuff from the website. but i want to take you back to the Democratic primaries and the LOGO “debate” where Joe Solmonese gave Hillary Clinton a good 8 minute blow job.
Bill Richardson, in a comment that lost him all gay support, said that the LGBT community needs to wait and get the public behind their cause or else no positive achievements could be made. Gay marriage? No… not until the public backs it.
If everyone can just wait a minute, there is an INCREDIBLE and beautiful rising of gay-marriage support. Obama and his administration don’t have to do shit. The public IS slowly getting behind us… state by state. The commercials of NOM could have played 10 years ago and be considered frightening – but instead are now the most laughable parody of itself on YouTube.
ONCE this support takes root and is laid out… other dominoes begin to fall… the most important (to my friends currently in Iraq) is DADT. unlike marriage, this cannot be handled on a state level… so it will take the longest to achieve.
it’s ultimately hypocritical and very short-sighted to bitch at the Obama administration while his very presence makes it possible for states to move forward with gay marriage bills… AND PASS.
now… i AM bothered at the website… and that requires a mobilized voice…. but to assume we are already being thrown under the bus or that Obama is going to Bill Clinton us is a little premature exclamation…. (for now).
D.C
As disappointed as I am with the “rewording” of the positions on the page I’m still waiting for Queerty, Bill Perdue and the rest of the Obama haters to stop being Noam Chomskys and give us some solutions.
I’m not kidding.
I’m not being rhetorical.
Give us some recommendations.
See, like Mr. Chomsky, you can sit and bitch for 50 years and the United States will still fly planes and bomb third world countries. But are there any solutions from the leftist smartys of the world?
Come up with better solutions than what we’re using now. When you do, we’ll review them and see whats good and whats not. Until then, shut the fuck up because as of now you’re only complete baffoons who profit on bitching.
Alec
@james p. p.: If you repeal DADT, people are not going to tolerate marriage inequality for gay soldiers. Just not gonna fly.
Get rid of DADT, and the dominoes will really start to come down.
InExile
@D.C: I have a solution, a march of 5 million gays on Washington for equality. Anyone interested?
Bill Perdue
@Chitown Kev: I know, lots of people are swinging our way, but the old christer bigots are not doing their fair share in terms of having of unwanted cardiac and cerebral events.
The key was Obama’s retention of Leah Daughtry at the DNC and the appointments of Kaine to the DNC and Dubois to the faith based scam outfit.
Obama is consolidating a bigot base to insure his reelection and we’re not invited.
Alec
@InExile: Someone is interested in a million, at least: http://www.grassrootsequalitynetwork.com/
Bill Perdue
@InExile: Count me in.
strumpetwindsock
@D.C:
Actually I don’t think Chomsky is under the delusion that we are going to be saved by the Marxist-Leninist-I.W.W. Coalition Cavalry riding in to save us.
Kye
The WH has already responded, as has been (carefully) reported elsewhere, the Web site is transitioning so that all policy pages list accomplishments and not plans. A lot of the policy pages have changed, not just the gay rights one. Jeeze.
tropos
Looks like there are quite a few Log Cabin Republicans commenting on this thread ..
andy
Clinton signing DOMA and settling with DADT was criminal. I will never forgive the Clintons. Obama isn’t Clinton…..yet, let’s see what the future holds; however, it doesn’t look promising after hearing this report. I just hope that he is able to have some compassion for the plight of others like ourselves who can’t get married in the eyes of the federal government. Really supporting gay rights is nothing to be in the closet about.
strumpetwindsock
@InExile: @Bill Perdue:
That would be a timely and good start.
Kye
Check here:
http://www.propublica.org/feature/changetracker
Then, be less stupid in the future. Accuracy is important.
rigs
I guess we’ll have to wait for Hillary 2016 for any of this to happen! And don’t give me the Bill crap, different person AND different time.
Erik
Part of me is inclined to believe that the so-called “gay community” (which is, by the way, a ridiculous construct which should be retired) has never trusted Obama. The money and the love largely went to Hillary in the primaries, but she came up short. Of course, we supported Obama against McCain, but I think much of that was anti-GOP as opposed to pro-Obama. Now, however, the community is ready to crucify him for anything they see him doing that they perceive as being less than 100% supportive, which, quite frankly, is absolutely ludicrous. Not even all gays are 100% supportive of the “gay agenda”–it’s simply childish to expect that the President of the United States would ask “how high” when we said “jump.” For my part, I will continue to judge him the way we should judge all political figures–by what they accomplish as opposed to what their website reads.
rigs
@Erik: I agree, let’s judge him on his actions which so far have been nill, but with only 100 days i’m not ready to give up. BUT the website change is certainly indicative of what he plans to do, and it’s not looking HOPEful
Bill Perdue
@D.C: When you’re more that mildly dissappointed in bigotry, genocidal wars and supporting an anti- labor lap dog of the rich then we can talk.
But right now you don’t have the moral authority to demand anything. You’re a wretched Obamabot.
Alec
@Erik: That’s funny. Obama won San Francisco (in the primary, against Clinton). And the only reason gay voters support the Democratic ticket in such large numbers is because of the hostility of the GOP. There are plenty of gay voters who are more in line with the Republican Party’s platform than with the Democratic Party’s platform.
All “communities” are fiction, really.
Alec
@Bill Perdue: Genocide has a legal definition, you know. Iraq probably doesn’t meet it.
Michael W.
@InExile: LOL. InExile summed up the reason for his existence here with that one comment. It’s all about vengeance against Obama and the Democratic leadership who put the brakes on Hillary’s “inevitability.”
That statement, ladies and gentlemen, should be the motto of the Queerty Clintonista.
Notice InExile was one of those strangely missing from the post detailing House passage of the Matthew Shepard act. He refuses to acknowledge any good that can come from Obama, Pelosi, etc. It’s all doom and gloom far as he’s concerned. Then again it was pretty hard to miss, though, since Queerty buried it deep on the page with no picture rather than let it marinate at the top all day like their anti-Obama posts.
Roy Pyatt
Obama is a wolf in sheep’s clothing and he is showing his true self and if you aren’t angry about it there is something desperately wrong with you.
It’s high time we got good and fucking mad and say we are not going to take this shit anymore!
D.C
@strumpetwindsock:
I don’t think Chomsky is under such “delusion” either. But its this kind of crap that makes me sympathize with disillusioned former or “armchair” leftists like former hippies.
Until I see some actual work done by the Obama haters, I’m just going to continue to tune those guys out and continue to support Obama where it counts because I don’t see any other winning method.
Armchair criticism only goes so far.
Alec
@Roy Pyatt: I’m not going to assume Obama is shifting gears based on a website redesign.
strumpetwindsock
@D.C:
Sorry if I was unclear. I wasn’t criticizing your post.
I agree with you entirely, actually .
D.C
@Bill Perdue:
You’re such an infant Bill. You are just completely useless. Do you just sit on the internet reading far left articles, foaming at the mouth, shaking your virtual fist at the man, getting shit accomplished? I want to see something you’ve accomplished.
You are dismissing me because you’re an empty suit. Nothing more. Nothing less.
Roy Pyatt
@alec I have only one thing to say, Rick Warren. Start there and count the slaps in the face we have received from Obama. I for one have no cheeks left to turn!
jake
@D-Sun: Hope and Change were a seasonal flavor.
Landon Bryce
@james p. p.: Ummm….
Bill Richardson lost all gay support because he said homosexuality was a choice, was asked to clarify his comments, and said “I don’t know if homosexuality is a choice or not.” He was revealed as an idiot, bigoted or not, who could not be bothered to speak coherently on gay issues. To claim that he lost gay support because he said enough nuanced or intelligent is to rewrite history.
The change on the website is disappointing but not at all surprising.
Obama wants us invisible and ignored. Not abused, but never, ever seen or listened to.
D.C
@strumpetwindsock:
lol. Sorry I seemed hostile. But this is getting ridiculous. This is what I hate most about leftism. Its full of these big lofty ideas that amounts to little or nothing. Only the right seems to get its way. Even when the left wins a couple of battles, they lose the war. Things may look “up” now (referring to the marriage equality wins) but the 80s can come back in full swing in 2012, and we could get something worst than DOMA. The right plays dirty. They compromise and compromise and make dirty deals and they win. They support people they don’t fully like and they win. They are made up of religious people, gun lovers, libertarians, and racists, and although they don’t always agree with each other, they find ways to stick together.
Can the left do that? No. We have George Bush and Obama’s idealism to thank for this, perhaps, calm before another storm.
andy
BTW, I am a big OBAMA advocate mostly because of his wonderful speeches and because he wasn’t a Clinton.
Alec
@D.C: I don’t think there’s much chance in hell of getting something worse than DOMA. That would have been the bigoted Federal Marriage Amendment, which they couldn’t get a full vote on in a Republican dominated senate.
What’s moving the marriage fight along is a sustained counterbacklash in the wake of Proposition 8 and strategic choices made by Lambda Legal and others (IA was very carefully planned), and changing demographics that will make it more and more difficult to oppose gay marriage.
Bill Perdue
@Alec: Save your legalese for divorce court.
Genocide has a political defininition and the deaths of over 1,000,000 Iraqis in an eight year war of state sponsored terrorism and murder by Democrats and Republicans US meets it.
We need to push for an International War Crimes Tribunal.
http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/iraq/iraqdeaths.html
http://icasualties.org/Iraq/index.aspx
Tony
“BTW, I am a big OBAMA advocate mostly because of his wonderful speeches and because he wasn’t a Clinton”
Yeah, those speeches written by that young white guy! LOL. I want to hear him give a speech where he doesn’t bumble stumble and start sentences with “uh whuh buh buh buh”. Obama is an anti-gay douchebag. Get over it.
Tony
Remember that Obama stated on MTV right before the election “I am against same sex marriage because God is in the mix.” DJ Obama remixed my rights. Nice.
TANK
Wow. This is quite unsettling. I hope it doesn’t reflect a complete 180 in his position. I think, however, once we get the workplace nondiscrimination act passed, DADT will be easier to (politically, anyway) to do away with.
Bill Perdue
@D.C: Your cynicism and your politics are as bankrupt as they’re worthless.
Your cynicism is an excuse for inaction.
TANK
@strumpetwindsock:
Then you haven’t read chomsky. I’m not defending him, but this kind of rhetoric is expected of his detractors unfamiliar with his political corpus.
strumpetwindsock
@D.C:
No offense taken. As I said, I didn’t give any background to my statement. And I agree, false idealism and dogma, plus a gross naivete of political reality is the undoing of a lot of left organizers.
I think a lot of people on the far left would be surprised at how much progressive policy actually comes form the middle of the road.
That said, my vote has always gone to the furthest left party that stands a chance of being elected (in our riding, that means NOT the green party).
@Roy Pyatt:
Did you not notice the other side of that incident… how Obama poisoned his well? Warren may still be a self-serving whore, but for much of his constituency he is now damaged goods.
Politics, man.
Alec
@Bill Perdue: Specific intent to destroy, in whole or part, a racial, ethnic, religious, cultural or national group. I agree that the invasion was illegal, but not all war crimes are genocide. Genocide is very unique.
But the problem is you read Chomsky instead of the ad hoc tribunal opinions, so you don’t know what you’re talking about.
Michael @ LeonardMatlovich.com
Regretfully, mass marches haven’t worked for decades. Even the 1963 Great March on Washington [organized by gay, black Bayard Rustin] had more symbolic than functional value. It was the party for the cake that was about to come out of the oven that had been baking for some time in towns and cities and states and Congress and the White House which led to the 1964 Civil Rights Act [to which ENDA would be an amendment] that JFK had announced in a televised address two months BEFORE the March, and in a press release six months before: “For the first time, the full force of Federal executive authority is being exerted in the battle against race discrimination.”
READ THAT AGAIN: the PRESIDENT drove the bill, charging his Justice Department with working with members of Congress to write it].
Why would a President who had only won by 500,000 votes, and a lukewarm record of support for civil rights, throw his full weight behind such a then radical bill? Not because of the NAACP which had been in existence for half a century by then, with little to show for its approach. The actual recipe for black civil rights change that finally rose was civil disobedience [which the NAACP was against]: the Montogomery Bus Boycott [and its 1940s lesser known interstate predecessors led in part by Rustin], lunch counter sit ins, other sit ins, the Freedom Rides, attempts to enroll blacks in segregated schools, and demonstrations in defiance of local law enforcement forbidding them.
“When Kennedy did act in June 1963 to propose a civil rights bill, it was because the climate of opinion and the political situation forced him to act.” – Dirksen Congressional Center.
Civil disobedience was also what finally got the government to take AIDS seriously.
This is NOT to say that the situations for LGBTs [of whatever color] in the US are remotely as bad as they were for blacks in the 60s, nor immediately life threatening by AIDS at such as scale as existed in the late 80s and early 90s.
It is to say that when one has tried all other means over a long period of time, as blacks had and AIDS activists had, to right civil wrong, to be granted equality and justice, and there is no substantive change—what method is left to you?
Mr. Obama has gone from loudly and explicity promising to personally lead the fight at the federal level to advance LGBT equality to almost total passive silence to literally erasing those promises. It is not about trying to punish him for that, nor Congress for their years of inaction, but to attempt to MAKE them change.
While local approaches of every kind must continue, it is foolish to imagine that anyone old enough to read this is likely to be alive when the last state legalizes marriage equality. Some FORTY states still don’t recognize ANY kind of gay legal union. THIRTY some still allow gays to be fired or denied a job simply for being gay. Every day at least two gays are discharged from the military…a practice that began not with DADT but over 60 years ago.
When my friend Leonard Matlovich became the first person to volunteer to fight that ban in 1975, Barack Obama was 13 years old.
If not now, when?
D.C
@Bill Perdue:
lol. You’re only good for a laugh Bill. I’ve been reading your bullshit for on this and other sites for too long. I just don’t know how to describe you except through one word. Joke.
Anyways. You can regard what I’m saying as cynicism. I’m merely being realistic. You can accuse me of advocating inaction. There is no evidence for that accusation. I’m simply advocating a kind of Gay-Obama relationship that mirrors Black-Kennedy. Being on the fringe helps no one except the right-wing because they know how to get shit done, unlike you and Chomsky and the rest of you Rage Against the Machine loving do-nothing product infants.
Roy Pyatt
@strumpetwindsock is that why Rick Warren is considered on of Americas Most influential people?
Speaking of self serving whores as soon as Obama got what he wanted he tossed us aside like a used condom
strumpetwindsock
@TANK:
Don’t be silly.
I have read (and watched) Chomsky, and see the truth in most of what he says, but he is a theorist and journalist – not a politician.
His method has always been to warn people of dangers rather than to propose strategies and tactics.
And I don’t think he has ever predicted a Deux Ex Machina, as some posters here have.
strumpetwindsock
‘scuse me…
Deus ex Machina
strumpetwindsock
@Roy Pyatt:
Most influential amongst the pork rind-munching set, perhaps.
Wasn’t that highly unscientific poll hacked by someone?
And as for your other thesis, that would be the big question, wouldn’t it? And I would say the jury is still out.
TANK
@strumpetwindsock:
Clearly not, though. Your accusations don’t match up to anything he wrote or expressed about leninist marxism saving us from “capitalism”. I don’t think you grasp his position on the matter. I suggest you read some of his earlier works on political theory. I never said he was a politician…LOL! He teaches linguistics and the philosophy of language at MIT, actually.
Tony
“Speaking of self serving whores as soon as Obama got what he wanted he tossed us aside like a used condom.”
That is Downlowbama for you. I feel like the LGBT Community is in an abusive relationship with him. He hits us and we come crawling back to him handing him excuses. Kind of pathetic in a Chris Brown Rhianna sort of way. Oh yeah, and even she woke up and left the abuser. As long as we keep taking it he is going to keep giving it.
1) Donny McClurkin.
2) Rick Warren.
3) God is in the mix statement regarding same sex marriage.
The hits just come on coming.
InExile
It is amazing how ANYONE who disagrees with Obama or is not 100% happy with him is automatically labeled an “Obama hater” by some of these posters. I do not think anyone here, myself included hates Obama. I do think may of us are disappointed with his persistent SILENCE on LGBT issues. The fact that so many posters make endless excuses for his lack of interest in LGBT issues is very scary! If we do not stand up for ourselves, who will???
Roy Pyatt
I can’t even begin to pretend I can read someones mind I’m only baseing my openion on the what Obama has done for the GLBT community thus far.nada nothing zilch zero bupkis
strumpetwindsock
@TANK:
I am aware of that.
Believe it or not, this conversation does not revolve around you, and my comment that he was not a politician was not directed at you. I was merely pointing out that Chomsky’s main work has been analyzing the mechanics of state oppression and manipulation, and promoting awareness of it. His work has been LESS concerned with strategies for combatting it.
Roy Pyatt
I know i will get shit for my spelling errors so i pre-apologize.
Alec
@InExile: I would prefer he be more outspoken too, but the man is in charge of the country and we’re in the midst of an unprecedented crisis, two wars…all I can go by are his actions. Some stuff is troubling, like the mixed message on DADT, but overall I’m pleased with him. I expect him to sign the hate crimes bill, ENDA….is he so terrible?
TANK
@strumpetwindsock:
Well, that’s not accurate, either. He has proposed strategies for avoidance of state sponsored manipulation. Being aware of it is perhaps the best strategy to sap its effectiveness, for one of dozens of examples.
I didn’t say it revolved around me. You’re mischaracterizing chomsky, who I disagree with with regard to his politics–and that’s all I’m addressing. Let’s not turn this into another “atheism’s a belief system like religion” game again. You’re just wrong…not uncommon.
Tony
“It is amazing how ANYONE who disagrees with Obama or is not 100% happy with him is automatically labeled an “Obama hater” by some of these posters.”
The Obamabots worhip Obamabigot blindly. Simple as that.
Bill Perdue
@D.C: What did I say? Worthless? Way too mild. You’re part of the problem.
You vote for austerity against workers, welfare for the rich, mass murder and bigotry becasue you’re too witless and cowardly to stand up against them.
InExile
@Alec: I am pleased with him also with the exception of LGBT issues. I just cannot help but think of all the opportunities he has had to throw a few words in to help us. The weight of the Presidency can make things move if he was willing to use it. He has political capital to spare but still avoids us like the plague. Maybe he will sign ENDA and hate crimes legislation which would be great! But rolling Easter Eqqs is doing nothing for those of us that need our relationships recognized at the federal level.
strumpetwindsock
What astonishes me is that some of you people don’t realize Obama has just stepped into the driver’s seat of the neo-Roman Empire.
For all the evil shit you criticize him for do you not see that we are all riding that same bus and those evil deeds are what keeps your fridges full and your iced coffees on tap?
I am not excusing the ways in which he has dropped the ball, but I don’t think you boys would be too happy if he tried to put the brakes on that bus or turn it around.
He would probably get killed if he tried. Politics is a little bit more complex than it seems in your fantasy world. And it’s almost all showmanship. Geez,even though the people I vote for do some good work, I realize their main goal is to just get elected in the first place.
Alec
@InExile: Agreed. And I know that for you in particular that’s an issue.
Relationship recognition is going to be a major issue in the senate.
Roy Pyatt
@strumpetwindsock but i am no longer willing to ride at the back off the bus!
btw the election is over! now it is time for action.
strumpetwindsock
@InExile:
As a matter of fact I am displeased with a lot of things he is doing other than LGBT issues.
On copyright issues he is continuing to knuckle under to the music labels, studios and Microsoft. Our country just got put on your corrupt “watch list” today because we’re not falling in line with DMCA and DRM legislation.
He’s also committed to the missile shield in eastern europea possibly destabilizing move.
We can be excused from noticing some of these things, but it’s important to realize that our concerns are not the only ones in the world.
InExile
@strumpetwindsock: I meant I am “generally” happy with him but there are some things I am not thrilled with like all the bailouts. We really will not know for quite some time what the effects of these bailouts will be. And for those who think 2012 is a slam dunk for his re-election, what happens with the economy will determine that. We have about one year for LGBT people to make progress after that we are in the next election cycle. So starting to DEMAND progress now is important if we want to see any at all.
Chitown Kev
@InExile:
Yep.
Potentially, Obama could fulfill all of my personal requirements as far as LGBT issues are concerned and still not win my vote. Of course, I didn’t vote for him solely on the basis of LGBT issues, either.
Mike
It’s not the same site..that original message was on http://www.change.gov not the White House site.
Mike
@Kye: EXACTLY..it’s driving me crazy how people are spreading this crap around.
InExile
@Mike: The listof LGBT issues on Change.gov was moved to Whitehouse.gov after the inauguration.
AladinSane
Well Queerty, you’ve lost another reader. You’re bitter politics, sensationalism, and twisting of truths has landed you smack dab in the land of Fox News.
InExile
Thank you QUEERTY for telling it like it is! Like it or not, the Obots need to hear the truth even if they cannot see it!
David
Hey Queerty…can you give us an update on this? I just went to the whitehouse.gov website and found the following. How does the following all but erase eveything about gay rights:
Strengthen Anti-Discrimination Laws
On January 29, 2009, President Obama signed the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Restoration Act to ensure that all Americans receive equal pay for equal work. The President is committed to expanding funding for the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division to ensure that voting rights are protected and Americans do not suffer from increased discrimination during a time of economic distress. President Obama also continues to support the Employment Non-Discrimination Act and believes that our anti-discrimination employment laws should be expanded to include sexual orientation and gender identity. He supports full civil unions and federal rights for LGBT couples and opposes a constitutional ban on same-sex marriage. He supports changing Don’t Ask Don’t Tell in a sensible way that strengthens our armed forces and our national security, and also believes that we must ensure adoption rights for all couples and individuals, regardless of their sexual orientation.
InExile
@David: Compare here:
http://pamshouseblend.com/diary/10732/civil-rights-redux-change-we-can-believe-in
David
@InExile:
Right. How does this erase everything about gay rights? Wasn’t the long list initially on change.gov? Also, hasn’t almost every section in the Issues section changed/been edited?
Why is everyone freaked out about changing DADT in a sensible way? I would love for it to be dropped instantly but…have you watched C-SPAN? Have you experienced DC politics? 100 artificial days people. Calm down peeps. You sound like right wingers.
RichardR
I wonder how may of us complaining about Obama’s shortcomings re GLBT issues have written him a letter or used the “contact us” option on whitehouse.gov.
He and they need to hear from great numbers of us and our friends.
Please stop yapping, and write and e-mail.
GPW
History has proven many times that the first 100 days is extremely important for a new president. If an issue is not set as a priority in that time period then it usually will not be addressed PERIOD. End of story.
We need to all keep the pressure up, unless you are all comfy and cozy in the back of the bus.
InExile
@GPW: Agreed!
Rob
The White House has revised the paragraph on LGBT issues again. It now calls for repeal (not mere “change”) of DADT.
http://www.americablog.com/2009/05/white-house-reiterates-its-commitment.html
http://www.whitehouse.gov/issues/civil_rights/
Keeping up the pressure can have an impact.
Lee
Here’s a hearty UP YOURS! to those who hissed we should all just be quiet and trust Massa.
Lee
PS: but, note, it remains as weak overall as dish rag soup and DOMA repeal is still gone.
InExile
@Rob: I checked the website and you are correct! See what a little pressure from Queerty can do???
Imagine what a march on Washington could do!
alan brickman
he’s just working it slowly…so relax..you don’t want him to assasinated by some crazy redneck….
alan brickman
plus gays should have a march on washington already…larry kramer has said all along..why are you marching???
InExile
I really do not like beating a dead horse but Obama said “” YOU ARE THE CHANGE””, so why does the LGBT community have no interest in a march on Washington for equality?
Being passive will get us nowhere!
Viktor
InExile:@InExile: There was no pressure Queerty, in fact Queerty is jumping the gun. I agree with David…What wrong with you people?
james p. p.
@Alec: you make good point. i will think on that. currently, i still think the mentality of the nation as a whole probably needs to shift a little more before two VERY federal changes take place, namely DADT and inheritance taxes for same-sex partners…. but, what you say IS correct…
@Landon Bryce: yes Landon, that was the same night i was talking about. i should have said “with a comment” not “in a comment”. that was the very same night he lost all gay support, but that was not focused on his UNTRUE statement that homosexuality is a choice… i was trying to bring up his SOMEWHAT TRUE statement that to get major movement you have to have the public’s support. now, i don’t agree with that 100%, but there is something in that comment that we should note.
Chitown Kev
Can I just say this…
This was the exact same thing that happened when the Iowa decision came down. We damn near had a riot over at Pam’s House Blend place when the first White house statement came out and didn’t talk about equal protection under law.
http://www.pamshouseblend.com/diary/10230/breaking-white-house-response-to-iowa-ruling
They changed that statement in 5 minutes.
The White House is watching us. But we are also watching them. Verrrry closely.
Brad
I’m not reading this blog anymore.
Lee
Chitown—what’s so great to celebrate about EITHER White House farts about the Iowa decision—both still stink because:
1. They both contain these statements:
A. “The President respects the decision of the Iowa Supreme Court, and continues to believe that states should make their own decisions when it comes to the issue of marriage.”
Respects? Respects? Why not “applauds and agrees with”?
What he IS applauding is a state’s right to give OR taketh away a gay civil right. He wouldn’t say that about a race-based right or gender or religion-based right. If you don’t find that reprehensible then…
B1. “President Obama supports civil unions rather than same-sex marriage…”
Gee, thanks for THAT encouragement to the Antigay Industry!
B2. “he believes that committed gay and lesbian couples should receive equal rights under the law”
NO, he DOESN’T. His AGAIN repeating this WORD GAME gets more insulting each time he does it. Worse because of its explicitness than Bush’s “I’m a ‘compassionate conservative’.” “Equal rights under the law” would include the right that nongays have…to be MARRIED.
So it still never said anything really about “EQUAL protection.” You stopped that near riot too soon.
Now the latest one’s been stopped prematurely because some key word differences were put back on WhiteHouse.gov, with no credible explanation of why they were changed in the first place, nor why DOMA repeal is still gone, and the rest of the language has been watered down to an air kiss…or the kind of too general, too brief statement that Hillary was pilloried for in the primaries.
The most honest statement still missing: “You’ll take this whether your like it or not, Suckas!”
Dan
I went to Whitehouse.gov too, and it looks to me like the new version is pretty much the same as the earlier version, condensed. President Obama:
* Supports ENDA and inclusion of sexual orientation and gender identity in employment nondiscrimination laws
* Supports full civil unions and federal rights for LGBT couples
* Opposes a constitutional ban on same-sex marriage
* Supports repealing DADT and strengthening national security
* Believes we must ensure adoption rights for all couples and individuals, regardless of sexual orientation
* Will seek to strengthen federal hate crime legislation (second section)
Two exceptions: I didn’t find the HIV/AIDS part, and Lee is right that DOMA isn’t mentioned. Congress wants to repeal the part that denies federal benefits to same-sex couples, but continue to let states decide if they want to recogize same-sex marriages of other states. Whitehouse.gov looks similar: it supports “federal rights for LGBT couples” but makes no mention of out-of-state marriages.
On the site, everything else seems to be word-for-word the way it was, but without the elaborations, such as reasons for the new laws and actions Obama took as a senator.
Chitown Kev
@Lee:
Did I say anything about celebrating? Girl, do not pass your pipe to me. You missed my point entirely
I was pointing out that the White house seems to come down with these oh so mysterious statements that they later have to backtrack on and revise.
Is it pure and simple low-level incompetence? Maybe, I certainly saw enough of that hwn I worked in DC over 20 years ago.
Why is it thhat whomever works as the LGBT part of the communications team has such a tin ear when it comes to something as simple, really, as press releases? Someone simply needs to be better trained.
Now, I could go another route with this but…
mylilpip
copied verbatim from the Whitehouse website:
President Obama also continues to support the Employment Non-Discrimination Act and believes that our anti-discrimination employment laws should be expanded to include sexual orientation and gender identity. He supports full civil unions and federal rights for LGBT couples and opposes a constitutional ban on same-sex marriage. He supports repealing Don’t Ask Don’t Tell in a sensible way that strengthens our armed forces and our national security, and also believes that we must ensure adoption rights for all couples and individuals, regardless of their sexual orientation.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/issues/civil_rights/
Lee
I believe we’re basically on the same page, Kev, it’s just that I’ve become very sensitive to word choice because the Obamabots run with the wrong word or exploit the gaps with their Messianic hysteria.
As for “Why is it thhat whomever works as the LGBT part of the communications team has such a tin ear when it comes to something as simple, really, as press releases? Someone simply needs to be better trained.”
There’s an old expression: the fish rots from the head down.
Have a great weekend and I hope Chitown is half as fun now as it was in the days of Dugan’s Bistro before the Big A.
HYHYBT
For now we’re stuck with him regardless. Come winter/spring 2012, it will be time to look at what he’s done and what the alternatives are for the primary, but until then I’d rather remain hopeful and not to worry about him too much.
The Lesbian Mafia
@Bill Perdue:
Hear! Hear!
Bears repeating …
*Is anyone surprised? The man’s a bigot.
And now for the Democratic apologists (sic) responses:
I. He’s a savior and you’re crucifying him. Poor, poor Obama.
II. Give him a few years.
III. It’s a technical error.
IV. We’re being tested to see if we’re worthy.
V. I can read Obama’s mind and I know, deep in my heart, that he loves us.
VI. This is all a Republican plot to embarrass the best President in the whole wide world.*
Thank goodness there is at least one respectable site holding Barack Obama responsible instead of simply getting on their knees every day and worshiping him. Trolls and flamers can’t stop it so they are going to try to sour Queerty’s good work and twist their intentions. Barack could take a shit in the middle of their living room and they wouldn’t criticize him, they would rather criticize and flame Queerty for reporting it.
Queerty has stepped into a new level here with their work for this post. Thank you for continuing to do the right thing. Carry on keeping us informed because we appreciate it more than words can say.
Love, support, and respect.
bigjake75
HAHA another flip flop from O-bag. check out this link. Think he cares about ‘human rights’ like he said?
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/2009/05/02/obama-looks-revive-military-courts-guantanamo-bay/
Now, I think this is ok. we should not bring them to the us. however, just another example of how he says one thing and does another. Ready to keep trusting him?
Landon Bryce
@Chitown Kev:
Do you really think that someone is running LGBT communications at the White House? I think a lot of the people who run communications for Obama are gay, so they don’t think they need to worry about LGBT communications specifically at all. That those gay people don’t give a shit about LGBT issues and care only about annointing the feet of their messiah is the reason Obama communication with the gays is so shitty. It’s post-partisan, too, right, just like not giving interviews to gay press.
I don’t think there is some gay person out there planning communication with us and doing a bad job of it. I think Obama Inc. has yet to figure out that they are not communicating as effectively with the gay community as they are with our leaders.
The gay press has decided to give Obama a pass on everything. So has the HRC. Even Andy Towle, for God’s sake, has become a DNC lapdog. As irritated as I am at the reflexively anti-Obama tone here, Andy didn’t cover this story until the change from “change” to “repeal” had been made.
That’s seriously fucked up, and it’s not the first or tenth time he has chosen to avoid covering things that would be unflattering to Obama.
Phoenix (Displeased Political Donor)
Obama has four years to keep his campaign promises. It’s only the first 100 days. If, in four years, election day 2012 rolls around and he hasn’t advanced gay rights any, then I’ll be donating money to someone else, campaigning for someone else, and voting for someone else.
It’s early yet, he has four years, but if he doesn’t come through he’s not getting my vote a second time.
Landon Bryce
To correct my last post, Andy avoided mentioning this story until he had the exculpatory statement from the White House, not until “change” was altered. I apologize for my mistake.
TANK
@Phoenix (Displeased Political Donor):
Hear hear. But…at the same time, you do realize that whether it be propsotion 8 or almost every other gay rights initiative, we’re just responding to what the opposition has already done instead of being proactive in anticipating it. By doing this, we lose the stategic advantage of not only throwing them off their game, but beating them to the punch as it were in doing so. That’s why, though I refuse to condemn Obama’s lack of…anything for gay rights compared to the rhetoric issued before his election…but at the same time, if we wait, it will once again catch us off guard, and more than likely, we’ll rally for familiarity (democratic party) falling for the same empty rhetoric.
That’s why it’s hard to come down on anti obama and anti democratic sentiment expressed on these blogs. They may be ahead of the curve.
TANK
@TANK:
anti democratic party, rather.
mention
stop hating yourself.
Mister C
OH QUEENS, I was quiet on this but DAMN
Here goes the girls: OH I HATE OBAMA…..I HATE OBAMA….I HATE OBAMA
The ones you need to start fucking hating and complaining to is your LOCAL STATE REPRESENTATIVE to Congress and your SENATORS. They are the ones with the power…….All Obama has to do is SIGN and he will!
Sometimes I just don’t get it. Like Michael W says Queerty loves to bait you queens with Barack…Why??? Because most of you were Hillary supporters even though she feels the same way he does. It’s acceptable for her but not for Obama.
Girl get over your personal feelings whatever they may be. Because this is all what Queerty is making you do. VENT!!
I HATE OBAMA. But you love your caucasian Senators and Representatives who may vote against any measures for EQUALITY???? Why isn’t anyone talking about them??????
Why don’t you bitches give it a damn chance. Civil Rights were NOT enacted right away. It took time just like this will take time. We have things going in the right direction let the flow keep moving.
Then again since Queerty wants to bait this shit all the time then let Ms David and The Queerty staff run for office if YOU really want to see CHANGE
Some of you Queens are really performing Arts!
Lee
Mister C, you don’t know your ass from a hole in the ground.
NO ONE in the US is more powerful than Obama right now, and we are just the opposite.
It is the responsibility of the promises he made to us, including such phrases as “put the full weight of my administration behind,” to pressure members of Congress to pass these gay bills, repeal DADT and DOMA.
Ya think he’s not saying to every Dem up for reelection next year who’s dragging their feet on his economy package, “If you want me to campaign for you, you’d better vote the way I want”?
He could and should be doing the same thing re the LGBT rights check he wrote us that has been returned for “Insufficient Funds.”
“…I understand that the president has his hands full saving the economy. But across a broad spectrum of issues — including women’s rights, stem cell research and relations with Cuba — the Obama administration has shown a willingness to exploit this change moment to bring about dramatic reform. So why not on gay rights? Where is our New Deal? … President Obama will never have more political capital than he has now, and there will never be a better political environment to capitalize on.”
– Charles Socarides, The Washington Post, May 2, 2009
Landon Bryce
@Mister C:
I can see why you’re having a fit, Mister C. You, or someone with your handle, spent months before the election going batshit crazy any time anyone suggested that Obama’s commitment to gay rights is tenuous at best. Since he has been president, that has been proven to be the case. You were wrong. You continue to attack blindly and insanely because your racism makes it impossible to see that your hero doesn’t care about you. Much better to attack the people who point out the truth than to try to see the truth.
Chitown Kev
@Landon Bryce:
It’s not simply Obama. It’s the Democratic Party and, to some extent, our own organization that are answerable to our community and take our dollars.
Hillary Rodham probably would have done the same thing were she elected. Considering that her last name is Clinton, I know that they triangulate their ass off. By now, Hillary would be all kinds of bitches and cunts and we’d be loving Barack.
Strictly my opinion
Mark
Notice! Notice! Notice!
Without Obama’s ‘help’ we’re still winning in various states with regard to same-gender marriage.
Don’t wait for your POTUS to do anything for you. Talk to your local reps, state senators and those in Congress.
THEY are the mouthpieces of US, their constituents.
Chitown Kev
@Mark:
Obama really doesn’t need to do anything as regards to marriage, that’s advancing on it’s own accord in the various states.
Nancy Pelosi said that DOMA was not a priority but that Hate Crimes and ENDA were. Obama could use the bully pulpit a little to put his foot in Pelosi’s ass, cause you know how she can be.
But…I suspect that Barack will have something to say within…oh, the next 32 days or so to our community and to the nation about our community.
jason
Don’t you realize what’s going on? Obama is simply a figurehead. The real powers are his spin doctors. His spin doctors control everything. You’ve been conned by the Democrat Party spin doctors.
Landon Bryce
@Chitown Kev:
Of course, you are right about the Democratic Party, but Obama has continued the anti-gay direction of the DNC by appointing a chair who hates gay people and opposes our equality.
Trashing Clinton never makes Obama’s supporters look anything but weak and bitter, though, and I wonder what your point is here. Clinton would not have done any more for gays than Obama has on policy. She might have appointed more out gays and lesbians and I find her communication with the LGBT community to be more comfortable. So what? I trust Obama more to actually get things done. I’m glad he won the election– does anyone wish Hillary were president now?
It is, frankly, idiotic for bigots for Mister C and Michael W to continue to scream that the only reasons white gays criticize Obama is that they are A) racist and B) in love with Clinton. Only people who want to deflect attention from Obama’s pisspoor record on gay issues are talking about Hillary Clinton in these threads. I am disappointed in you for joining them.
Chitown Kev
@Landon Bryce:
First of all, I am not joining them.
Second of all I am not trashing Hillary Clinton, I think the bitching would be almost identical if this was Hillary Clinton.
(For the record, I love me some Hillary Clinton. Granted that I really was pissed at her “hard working white people” comment but it is politics and verylittle surprised me about the mud that was slung. I hold no grudges about that and I hope that she d…and is our next Democratic President)
Third, and understand my POV.
This shit is funny as hell, in a way.
If you substituted “African American issues” for “LGBT issues” in many of the above posts then it really would be more or less the same shit I’ve been hearing about Barack Obama for years. Good Lord, the black community in Chicago said some nasty shit about this man. The man’s ability to piss folks off is amazing.
Landon Bryce
@Chitown Kev:
See, I don’t know that I can get far enough past the “hard working white people” to trust her ever again. And if Joe Biden’s a loose cannon, imagine the damage Bill could do on swine flu or, oh, anything. I don’t want Hillary in the White House.
I think the reason for the similar comments from blacks and gays is that Obama is a centrist who inspires leftists– so was Bill in his prime, of course. There is, though, a significant difference: he is black, and he shows very limited empathy for and understanding of what it is like to be gay in America.
Chitown Kev
@Landon Bryce:
Who was raissed in Jakarta, Indonesia and fucking Hawaii. Barack Obama may be “black” but he’s not “African American” in the traditional sense that we think of an “African American.”
Sheeit, folks here thought he was “uppity” because he had a white mother. Folks here thought that the white man and/or the Jews were propping him, that’s why he got where he is so fast. Oh, Barack Obama is just a “whiteman in blackface.”
To me, it’s the same thing.
Landon Bryce
@Chitown Kev:
Understood. But irrelevant. Does he understand what it’s like to be African American? Yes. Does he care about the lives of African Americans and about the issues that effect them? Yes.
Does he understand what it’s like to be LGBT? No. Does he care about understanding that better? No. Does he care about the lives of LGBT Americans? I don’t know. Neither do you at this point.
It’s a very significant difference.
Chitown Kev
@Landon Bryce:
Some African Americans (including some very prominent ones) would disagree with you.
I think Barack Obama understands as well as anyone what it’s like to be an outsider and an outcast in many different ways, including in his “own community” (whatever that is).
The sense of always wandering, never having a home, for example. Obama identifies with and understands very much with the cultural Jewish experience.
I could very well do poststructuralist/queer theoretical/literary theory route and queer Obama up really easily.
(He made people just as pissed of at the Harvard Law Review if I remember correctly).
The thing is most people are so used to putting people into a box (black, white, Jewish, etc.) Barack Obama refuses to allow himself to be placed in a box. Or rather, he fits into too many boxes. Personally, it’s why I’ve always liked the man (though I haven’t liked ever ything he has done or not done as Senator and President)
Even on these Queerty threads, it seems like some of the more racist queens act as if I’m the second coming of Stokley Charmichael on occasion. Some of the black queens think I’m a snow queen or an Uncle Tom or something like that.
I’m used to that. Although I don’t quite have as thick of a skin as Barack Obama does.
Stitch
Do you all think that Obama was elected president of the Gays? Honestly, reading these comments, I’ve come to the conclusion that you all must be either deaf to your own ignorance or so self-involved that you actually believe that you should be somehow offended by the politicking of a major party leader.
Fact is, if you expected that Obama’s inauguration would lead to a giant foam party orgy of gay rights, you were deluding yourself. Don’t blame him.
He’s doing his best to fix a MASSIVELY broken country. Our alternative was a million-year-old “moderate” republican bigot and a dumb ass with a 5th rate education from Moose U.
Give the man some credit, keep pushing for our rights in positive ways, and for Pete’s sake, STOP WHINING!
Landon Bryce
@Chitown Kev:
I do not doubt, Kev, that some prominent African American leaders would say that Obama shows as much knowledge of and sympathy for gay people as he does for African American people. Most sane people, however, and especially most sane African American leaders, would laugh at them. Don’t you think?
Appropriating Judaism is an intrinsic part of African American culture, not unique to Obama. The slavery link is why AAs are still primarily members of a church that helped to enslave them. If some Black Joseph Smith had come up with an African Jewish cult in Reconstruction, I think it could have taken off. I don’t trust anyone who thinks God loves him better than anyone else. That goes for Blacks and Jews and Mormons and people with autism and Larry Kramer. I understand why we all need to feel that way, but we’re wrong. We can’t help putting ourselves in the center of the universe: it’s when we tell ourselves that we are right to do so that our religious beliefs become dangerous.
Your perspective here is fascinating and helpful, though. It’s the one place since the election where I’ve found comparing the black and gay experiences illuminating rather than incendiary: why we both have reason to be pissed at Barack.
Snow Queen or Stokley, Uncle Tom or Terrorist– you know how much I value your opinions and your words. Wish I could send balm for that thin but beautiful skin–
Landon Bryce
@Stitch: I wonder if you followed the whole story. The initial changes removed all but two of the original commitments to LGBT people. People whined. Pro-LGBT lngauge returned but included an alteration from “repealing” DADT to “changing” it. People whined. The language was changed back to “repealing.”
Where would we be if all followed your advice and didn’t whine?
I hope we never find out.
Mister C
To Lee and Landon Bryce,
First to Lee Get the FUCKING SHIT STRAIGHT MADAM. THE SENATE AND THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES MAKE THE LAWS THE PRESIDENT SIGNS THEM INTO LAW. SO MAYBE you don’t know your ass from a hole in the ground Miss Baby. Powerful whatever they still make the laws!!!!!! He can only propose and then sign REMEMBER THAT!
@ Landon Bryce as for this statement: You continue to attack blindly and insanely because your racism makes it impossible to see that your hero doesn’t care about you. Much better to attack the people who point out the truth than to try to see the truth.
UMMMMM My dear I am not RACIST. I am partnered to a Caucasian Male so I find that statement truly bogus. I’ve never attacked anyone blindly. And my HERO is my mother and NOT Barack for the record.
I’ve always attacked those who made racially motivated comments about Obama because of their anger of Clinton who did not get the nomination. OKAY SO DON’T PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH.
Go back and research some threads on here before you accuse me of that. Fuck the intellect this is a BLOG and I’m keeping it real!
Bottom line Queerty knows exactly how to move anger with these threads on here. And as far as the equality issue is. I never said he’s perfect. But it’s 100 days and things are still moving. Okay he’s not fooling me at all. As much as I want Marriage equality for all of us. It’s not the #1 thing on my radar.
As far as ME Chris (Mister C) is concerned. I’m Black then Gay that’s the priority with me and I’m not concerned how YOU feel about that. And if you dont think we don’t have issues in this community the day after the election with the whole Prop 8 issue. Blew the cover off the lid. So that’s no secret anymore. The Gay Community has MAJOR issues it needs to combat!
So is Obama who maybe someone else’s hero perfect? HELL NO. But to think every time something is not mentioned all this negativity and anger is like WHOA! Because when he does do something for our community folks will NOT be satisfied and they will look for a new complaint to rise up with! But I’m patient regardless of what. Gays loved the Clinton’s inspite of DADT,and DOMA. And they still loved Hillary and still do!
So as for my original comment IT IS WHAT IT IS!
Landon Bryce
@Mister C: You may not be racist in your personal life. In your blog comments on Clinton and Obama you have been consistently racist in that you have blamed ALL criticism of Obama on racism and Clinton bias. You have not allowed in the past that any criticism of his shitty treatment of gays could be motivated by anything other than the evil biases of the critic. You are also changing your tune a little as events force you to, but you continue to attack people for having priorities different from your own.
I was disgusted with the racism displayed by much of the gay community in the aftermath of Prop 8 and agree that it shows the gay community has huge work to do in fighting racism. The events leading up to and following the 2008 election also prove that the African American community has a huge problem with bigotry against gay people, something I have yet to see you admit.
fem in the city
Nobody is buying that race stuff anymore. It’s so overused no one even responds to it anymore because no one even takes it seriously. Anyone who doesn’t worship BO has been accused or racsim I mean it’s so pathetic and it only hurts him even more. They pull the race card whenever they want you to shut you up it’s so predictable … all because they’re threatened that you’re going to take away thier My Little Obama Pony fantasy …
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP_rIAkb_v8
fem in the city
@Stitch: The consistant whining is from Obots because they have a stroke anytime you express anything but religious fanatical idol worship for him. This is a free country, we are allowed to express valid disappointment in his treatment of LGBTQ without having Obots overly emotional knee-jerk far left wing irrational wingnut flamers. That small part of the LGBTQ who do not care about thier civil rights and that’s fine for them, some of us still do and must hold him accountable for his promises. This is not China. It is still America.
POGO People
One group that is arguably prosecuted more than gays and lesbians – also had President Obama’s promises to them removed from WhiteHouse.gov
http://pogoblog.typepad.com/pogo/2009/01/whistleblower-protection-language-goes-missing-from-white-house-website.html
alicia banks
because obama is merely a blackish-faced clone of george w. bush!
he is unmasking his true agendas slowly each day
“republican” & “democrat” are INCREASINGLY distinctions without differences
when will america awaken from this one sided honeymoon with this
fascist redux?????
see more:
THE OBAMA DECEPTION
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw
fyi
ab
Bill Perdue
@alicia banks:
I agree that the twin parties have mainly cosmetic differences but Obama is not a fascist nor are the Democrats and Republicans as a whole. They’re not even close.
A fascist state is one that has militarily defeated unions and it political opponents and rules lawlessly and with an iron fist.
Bush was certainly a rightist, a tail-wagging lap dog of the rich and a warmonger. So is Obama but neither are fascists.
alicia banks
we agree to disagree as facism by me =
a person who is dictatorial or has extreme right-wing views
i define nothing as more right wing than what bo has done
Political truths have been nullified by idolatry. Fascism and elitism have become afrocentric. Black political suicide has become patriotic. Political logic has become treason. Most “journalists” are Obama’s fans. Most voters are his drones. Most gays are his doormats. And, most women and men are his groupies. It is truly pathetic to witness…
Obama is a supreme, selected, and sainted agent of the New World Order. He has flagrantly bilked the poor to give to the rich.
see much more at
OUTLOOK
http://aliciabanks.blogspot.com
peace,
ab
CHINA
ALL THE PROMISES… WHATEVER. OBAMA IS JUST AS SHADY AND WICKED AS ANY OF THE PAST PRESIDENTS. DONT LET THAT SWEET FACE FOOL YOU JUST BECAUSE HE IS BLACK SKIN. A BIG DECEPTION IS SOON COMING AND WE ALL GOING TO CRINGE. THIS MAN IS GOING TO LET EVERYONE DOWN. WE ARE ALL FOOLS. THE PLASTER FAKE SMILES ALONGSIDE MICHELLE OBAMA… PLEASE…
alicia banks
ditto china!
i loathe all of the gay doormats/obama nazis
i have never been an obama fan
and, i am prouder of that fact each day!!!
obama = a blackish fascist = gwb 2.0
and, beauty is in the eye of the beholder
his urine colored skin and emaciated puppet swagger have never impressed me…
see more:
the obama deception
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw
fyi,
ab
ImperfectlyPolished
@InExile: I’m down.
ImperfectlyPolished
@alicia banks: and you’re a pissy racist. Wow! you and the president have something in common, dumbass.
alicia banks
ip:
your illiteracy and lies will never protect you
i am no racist because i tell the truth about racism
but you are in deep denial about many racial truths…