In a viral post on the r/AskGayBros subreddit this month, one Reddit user observed that gay men are “the epicenter of a political war,” saying he has seen countless social media videos of people burning Pride flags or physically attacking drag queens. Worse yet, he says many comments on those videos cheer on those anti-LGBT actions.
“I hate to come off as fragile and I never gave a f*ck about these hateful c*nts, but I can’t lie and say it isn’t starting to worry me,” he writes. “The sheer extremity of the anti-LGBT sentiment has me constantly worried about what my future will look like, and it’s starting to impact my mental health.”
Now, this Redditor is wondering how other gay men are dealing with this homophobia. “Are you also afraid, or am I being overly anxious?” he asks.
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His Reddit thread has accumulated more than 360 comments so far, with some commenters agreeing that homophobia is on the rise and others saying that today’s society is as homophobic or even less than it was during the height of the AIDS crisis. Unfortunately, some commenters blamed a rise in anti-LGBT sentiment on the fight for trans and nonbinary equality—as if violence or bigotry that affects one of us doesn’t affect all of us—but many other comments offered useful advice.
Here are excerpts from those suggestions.
“Don’t give in or back down.”
“Never afraid. It’s having the opposite effect with me. Back in the ‘80s we were ‘fighting for our lives’. Same thing. Don’t give in or back down; it’s what they want.”
“Elections matter.”
“The response we must make is to push back on the current wave of repression. Elections matter. Know who is running for the school board and who is running for the District Attorney’s office (locally and statewide) and vote accordingly.”
“When I encounter homophobia, I confront it.”
“I go about my life as normal. The only thing I’ve changed is that I now wear a pride bracelet whenever I leave the house. When I encounter homophobia, I confront it, assuming it’s safe to do so. If we change how we live, then they’ve won.”
“Being more out than ever can only help.”
“If you’ve got the energy and the strength to do it, being more out than ever can only help. It’s harder for people to hate gay people in the abstract when they realize that their regular customer, their coworker, the guy reading on his way to work on the train every morning, etc., is a gay person.”
“No need for that negativity in my life.”
“I started cutting people off that don’t align with my beliefs—for instance, my mother-in-law who votes red. No need for that negativity in my life.”
“Don’t let them win by being afraid.”
“I’m 58, and my partner is 62. … We survived the AIDS crisis and that was truly frightening and horrifying, but what is happening today isn’t any different [from what] it’s always been. There have always been people [who] don’t like us, but that shouldn’t stop you from achieving your dreams and goals. Let the bigots be bigots. Don’t let them win by being afraid.”
“Avoid social media.”
“Honestly avoid social media and focus on your own life.”
“People have to start talking well.”
“Those views aren’t going to be broken through a lack of communication; they’re only going to be broken through actual communication. I don’t mean yelling or cussing out the people who think us enemies either—that only serves to reinforce their beliefs. People are gonna have to genuinely start talking again, and people have to start talking well. Be civil in your interactions, don’t ever lose your temper, but always defend your beliefs, and make sure you got the [knowledge] to not give credence to the bigots. … Remember always: Know your history to save your future. It’s history more often than not that breaks the backs of bigotry and leads to further acceptance—that’s why some groups are trying to suppress it from the youth.”
frapachino
This is due to the radical trans community high jacking our fight.
abfab
High jacking?
cc423
If your fight can be so easily hijacked then it’s not much of a fight. Try to be better
abfab
Frap enjoys jacking when high.
dbmcvey
Hey frap, at a time when conservatives are coming after our marriage rights, your warnings about trans people are just idiotic.
S.anderson
@cc423: We have absolutely no time to tolerate insensitivity and calculatingly divisive behavior like yours.
dbmcvey
S.anderson,
your admonishment was aimed at the wrong person when you consider the original post.
monty clift
@frapachino, Conservatives and the right have been coming for gay people long before trans hijacked our movements and communities, and they will still be coming after us long after trans are gone.
London_resistance
////This is due to the radical trans community high jacking our fight.
Absolutely right. All our gay and lesbian organisations have been hijacked by highly placed trans identified men sitting in positions of power. And when we try and maintain gay and lesbian independence, eg the Gay and Lesbian Alliance here in the UK we suffer utterly relentless attacks and ferocious attempts are made to shut us down
All our gay media has been hijacked to further trans ideology. And any gay media that tries to maintain independence suffers relentless attacks by trans activists
dbmcvey
Here comes London from way, way behind.
abfab
Let’s all breath a sigh of relief that LONDON (there’s no place like LONDON) is NOT in a position of power.
I wonder who he’s talklnig about, but please, don’t reply……………RESIST!
abfab
Well, we have a few less homophobes to deal with………….
By Maggie Haberman and Rebecca Davis O’Brien
July 16, 2023
Updated 1:19 a.m. ET
Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida has started cutting campaign staff just months into his presidential bid, as he has struggled to gain traction in the Republican primary and lost ground in some public polls to former President POS.
The exact number of people let go by the DeSantis team was unclear, but one campaign aide said it was fewer than 10. The development was earlier reported by Politico.
still_onthemark
Won’t be long before the campaign starts laying off their paid canvassers (or as WaPo called them in a headline, “door-knockers”) like our pal decrans!
abfab
His vampire wife must be having conniption fits.
jarednorth30
Decrans here. I’m already making the in-roads to a No Label Party job. Paid canvassers. The Democrats have them as well. How do you think Katie Hobbs got elected? The cold hard truth: Nobody really cares about our political system. You have to pay people to do this crap.
DBMC
decrans. Now we know you’re truly lost. The No Label party is funded by wealthy Republicans. It’s a sham. It’s astroturf.
You’ve never had any crediblity but you’ve lost whatever anyone might have given you by supporting people who want to take away our hard earned right to marriage equality.
Just go away and get help. You’re thrashing about like a drowning person.
decrans
Dave Matthews, you want to whine about astroturfing and the state of politics. And yet, you bend to the will of the corporate wing of the Democratic party. Make up your damned mind. Don’t whine about money in politics and then support the Debbie Wasserman Schultz model with the other hand. Have some consistency for chrissakes.
Covid Hermit
“Avoid social media.” and “People have to start talking well.”
THESE are the two keys. Social media doesn’t foster constructive conversations, mostly because on social media you primarily interact with other like-minded individuals. When you can have an honest, genuine conversation IN PERSON then you are more likely to win over hearts and minds.
This is the primary reason why I gave up on social media. Back in 2021 I spent a day arguing with someone on Twitter, who thought polio had been eradicated because there’s a vaccine for it. It hasn’t been eradicated, for the record. Neither has COVID despite the pandemic being “over” (it sure isn’t for some of us).
Until we get out from behind our screens and start to accept that we’re all human and that we all deserve to be treated with decency, respect and equality, nothing will change. Live your life out loud, unafraid of the bigots and unashamed to be who you are.
abfab
Winning over hearts and minds. Right, we all have time for that. Sure. And I have to ask, have you really given up on social media?
I get what you’re saying. We can do both, though. In person scolding of the bigots and homophobes and also online. It’s called multi-tasking! In the mena time……….fuc k the homophobes and the GOPTROLLS here. Talk about a sad group of people.
still_onthemark
Polio is undoubtedly going to make a comeback thanks to all the crazy parents who believe anti-vax stuff they get from social media and from that lunatic RFK Jr.
dbmcvey
Polio, small pox, measles, scarlet fever, leprosy…
still_onthemark
@dbmcvey: Smallpox is the one that actually HAS been eradicated. Otherwise correct!
abfab
Another lunatic with a big mouth. When did this Kennedy fall off the rails!
“COVID-19, there is an argument that it is ethnically targeted. COVID-19 attacks certain races disproportionately,” Kennedy said.
“COVID-19 is targeted to attack Caucasians and black people. The people who are most immune are Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese.”
dbmcvey
mark,
All of those were considered irradicated at one time. Now, because of vaccine deniers, both conservative Christians and liberal new agers they are all coming back. That’s religion for you.
Openminded
I’ll add “Elections Matter” to your list. I really like the point that LOCAL elections are important. Everyone seems to focus on who will be POTUS, when it really all starts at the local level and pushes upwards from there. We all bemoan how in the world can another state elect some useless idiot crook to congress, while our own state is too often guilty of the same action. POTUS is important, but POTUS alone can’t change the laws that need attention.
Openminded
@abfab, your first reply post speaks directly to the “avoid social media” point. Simply scolding and hateful speech gets you nowhere and changes nobodies minds, yet here you are trying it anyway. This sites comment section is perfect example of how social media doesn’t work to the positive. Kindness on social media regarding divisive issues doesn’t exist. Social media also typically highlights only the radicals within a group, not painting a true and accurate portrait of the group.
Kindness changes more minds than hate ever will. Doesn’t mean you can’t be screaming mad inside, but you still have to show your kind side to effectively persuade someone to see your point. Now call me a GOP troll, yada, yada, yada…and see how well that don’t work.
abfab
Kindness? When a person, in this case you, says something so stupid, kindness is not an option. You will get called out on your shit.
still_onthemark
Homophobia in the 1980s & ’90s meant getting the crap beaten out of you by some troglodytic closet cases ganging up on you.
Homophobia in the 2020s means someone on social media saying something mean (behind a screen name) thus making you feel “unsafe” (even though you’re using a screen name also). Oh the horror!
Steve9999
You obviously don’t get out much.
Fname Optional Lname
In the past year the number of gay bashings has sky rocketed – all over! Envy Peru just got attacked by 4 men on the street. Trans people are being murdered. This is far beyond playground name calling..
Openminded
Percentage wise, I’m betting it’s still much safer to be queer today than in the 80’s. Sure, we hear about the attacks more today, but we also hear tons more positive reporting on and about queer people. Back in the 80’s, and especially the 70’s and before, you simply didn’t hear about queer people because they knew they would be greatly at risk of being sought out and attacked.
monty clift
@still_onthemark, There are still countries where homosexuality is punishable by death. Take your BS elsewhere.
abfab
Clif, your rebuttals always fall short. I can tell you’re almost there but think more before you type. You’re almost there.
abfab
@openminded
Many of us heard about Gays and Lesbians living openly in the 80s.
I’ll quote you here, and will put the one word in bold which, frankly, is sad for you. Blanket statements like this are an insight into your limited reality, in the 80s, and beyond.
”Back in the 80’s, and especially the 70’s and before YOU, (you) simply didn’t hear about queer people”
That’s YOU OPEN!
dbmcvey
Hey still,
I have an assignment for you. Research what you said.
Now, also, how many black trans women have been murdered in the last decade.
Then come back and revise your post.
Kangol2
@still_offthemark, are you out of your damned mind or living in a cave? Are you that privileged and entitled that you don’t realize that in 2023 in addition to all kinds of anti-LGBTQ legislation being passed ALL OVER THE US, you can still have the crap beaten out of you by people for being gay or trans? That you can be killed? Look up the anti-LGBTQ violence stats for the last 5 years and maybe, just maybe you’ll get a frigging clue!
jarednorth30
abfab telling people to think before they type. Oh my God. The comedy is too rich.
DBMC
Jared, better known as decrans, better known as Ernst Rohm is a collaborater, a kapo and a liar.
He just needs to go off somewhere and think about what he’s doing, although, that assumes he has the ability of self-examination. He should just go away.
Seth
How does one have a “genuine conversation” with people whose entire ideology is a lesson in bad faith? How does the throat crushed beneath appeal to the boot heel’s humanity?
Fahd
In the U.S., I’m wondering if or how many members of the LGBTQ community have decided to get gun licenses so that they can obtain a firearm for self-defense. It’s awful the way violence begets violence, but no one wants to be at the mercy of violence-prone homophobes.
abfab
Keep wondering. You can be our good guy with the gun. Oh please protect us! We need you!
I’m at the mercy of no one. Your well thought out question is, ahem, deep. Annie, get your own
fuc k ing gun.
And please don’t forget to renew your NRA membership. I don’t like you.
Chrisk
I’d love to see more get a gun license and carry. Especially the ones that are the usual targets.
I long for the day when the thugs get what’s coming to them.
inbama
@Fahd
Go to pinkpistols DOT org. There are branches in plenty of cities.
abfab
Yes, everybody take up arms! That’s the answer to all of your little problems! Go out and shoot people!
Yee haa! Asshole. Pink pistols. That’s too funny. InalaBAMA, you’re deranged and dangerous.
fab0497
“Unfortunately, some commenters blamed a rise in anti-LGBT sentiment on the fight for trans and nonbinary equality”
They are right, it is useless to deny it. What’s happening is a backlash from TQ+ activism and their nonsense like changing pronouns, or forcing women to accept biological men into their spaces. This is where they take the blame and rightly so people are getting tired
Chrisk
Nice job astroturfing your opinion with multiple screennames.
dbmcvey
We know that you have been here under a lot of different names. I’m sorry that you have been disappointed in life and humiliated, but harming the entire LGBTQ+ community because of your hurt ego is disgusting.
inbama
@fab0497
You’re correct.
We won our rights, we won the culture war, and now we’ve thrown it all way on Queer Theory, Gender Studies, and quack therapies for minors.
dbmcvey
Hey fab, one of the Queerty regressive conservative trolls just agreed with you!
Or did you just agree with yourself?
abfab
I can assure you, I don’t play that game.
dbmcvey
Sorry, didn’t mean you abfab, I mean fab0497. Sorry about that.
abfab
Well! I think you still deserve a spanking! xo
dario717
Vote in every primary and every general (and any special elections), whether it’s for school board or U.S. Senator. And make it for the Democrat unless and until the republicans learn how to act right.
London_resistance
It’s quite clear that shackling our gay & lesbian waggon to the sexual kink waggon of queer and trans bvvlshlt has irredeemably fvcked our L&G cause, and has set us back, probably decades. We are now tarred with the same brush.
People now use Gay to mean means trans. I’ve started seeing this recently in many places.
All the hard work we did to achieve equality has been stained by the shlt of trans and queer, gender woo-woo.
Reasons:
1) we spent decades establishing gay & lesbians have nothing do with paedophilia – now all this has been undone by the idiots in charge of the LGBTQA+++ allowing peds underneath the LGBTQA+++ umbrella
2) Gender ideology has been forced into schools both here and in the US to read what is essentially porn under the guise of Gender Teaching for kids
3) Drag queens reading to kids. You cannot be stupid enough to really think parents like this?
4) Pride floats just being a porn show, with bare bottomed fat freaks showing their bumholes do kids
5) The pronoun b0llocks. Everyone hates this shlite. And people are disciplined at work for not using some narcissist’s pronouns
6) Because some idiot gays make stupid comments llke “I won’t abandon my trans brothers and sisters”. They are NOT our brothers and sisters- most trans women and men are heterosexuals. Most queers are straights with a sexual kink. Some think dying their fvcking hair makes them ‘queer’
7) the trans men taking over women’s sports horrorshow. People see this and think it is ridiculous and unfair on women
8) the threats and the violence and the thuggery, punching old ladies (as has happened on many occasions) and violent young men in dresses trying to stop women talking. Again people see this and are told it’s the LGBTQA+++ lot and they roll their eyes. And again the stupid gays on here who support these thugs are not helping.
9) and lastly the overall shlttiness of gender woo- the nonsense idea that a person can change their sex. It’s nonsense and everyone knows its nonsense. Some tiny, tiny percentage of men who are unwell of no more than 0.0012% does not a mass movement make. And unlike fighting for gay and lesbian rights, where we actually had to argue and debate, the trans nonsense has been pushed through on the sly, in an underhand way with no debate and argument permitted
Of course the idiots on here are going to try and refute me by saying that the Right would hate gays anyway, BUT THINGS WERE OBJECTIVELY GETTING BETTER and survey after survey showed acceptance of gays and lesbians was increasing year by year. We won the marriage equality arguments. Now that’s all gone into reverse, thanks to the queer and trans idiots with blue hair and you moronic gays who support them.
dbmcvey
Do they spell wagon with two gs in the UK?
abfab
Someone needs to tar YOU!
1) You’re a bad person.
2) Get off the internet.
3) Find some one to help you with your problems.
Diplomat
Be aware these are two trans troglodites responding to your comment. They were born to bitch and have nothing of value to say regarding your comment bc they are men who enjoy cruising women’s bathrooms locker rooms and sports teams for a sexual thrill.
Your comment is spot on and well laid out. Keep posting your thoughts about this subject as they are very valuable. This whole activist trans troll clan needs to be removed from our logo and society in general. They are ruining the moral fabric of society with their arrogantly insane boundary blitzing psychostructure.
dbmcvey
Be aware that Diplomat is currently helping the people who are working to take away our rights.
abfab
Her imagination is simply marvelous.
dbmcvey
Diplo hates trans people so much that he would wreck all the gains we’ve made in order to prevent trans people from existing.
S.anderson
@London_resistance: I agree with you whole heartedly. You speak the truth, which is heresy. I expect you’ll be lynched by virtuous quislings momentarily. lol.
One thing I would add to your list of points is how Lesbians, Gays and Bisexuals spent decades demonstrating that the vast majority of them are indistinguishable from heterosexuals in all but one or two ways. Who they’re attracted to physically and who they love romantically. That WE’RE NORMAL. That the rest, the butch Lesbians, the flamboyant Gays, etc., are still women and men respectively; they simply don’t conform to Traditional Sex Roles (TSR), which society uses to assign what traits and behaviors they consider appropriate according to the genitals between your legs. But they are still men and women, even if they like dandy clothes and art. That they are still women, even if they drive trucks and wear boots. That LGB phenomena is NOT AN ISSUE OF SEX/GENDER CONFUSION. That TSR are constructs that don’t fit everyone and nobody really needs to conform to.
This has all been undone by Gender Ideology which quietly uses TSR as un-challenged metrics to determine what your gender is. Do you like to play wear dresses? Well, let’s have that nasty penis removed so you can be the TrueGirl(TM) which you really are! Etc. And the doctrine they push that gender disturbance IS what LGB and TQ is about after all. And that we’re all types of “QUEER”; a word which means “weird”, “different”, “abnormal”, “loathsome”. Gender Ideology looks and quacks like a toxic, addictive viral construct made by homophobes themselves to destroy the nonconformists in a cesspool of their own anxiety and self-loathing. Transgender spox have appointed themselves the leaders of lgbTQ organizations everywhere, wearing them like some kind of skin suit. Re-writing history and re-assigning famous people from the past as “transgender” and especially “queer”, when these people identified as no such things.
There’s no point in denying that the Lesbian and Gay Movement has been supplanted by Gender Ideology, a movement of angry, homophobic, mostly-straight people who hated being seen as gay and lesbian growing up, and hate gays and lesbians for their disloyalty to the beautiful new transnonbin “truth”.
jarednorth30
Dave Matthews, Do you copy-and-paste the same lines to every person who disagrees with you on Queerty? How sad and pathetic is that? Do a better job at convincing people of your arguments.
DBMC
Hey Ernst Rohm,
You’re working for politicians who want to take away our rights. Get help.
You claim you want to be straight, posting on gay websites won’t help you with that. Go away.
abfab
I wouldn’t call it work. This lazy bastard doesn’t work.
SteersandQueers
London_r makes some valid points. Who voted for all the ‘extra abbreviations’ anyway?
and abfab, you better be armed down here in Texas if you want a fair fight!
abfab
I won’t step foot in that state. Not my cup of tea.
S.anderson
@SteersandQueers: As I recall, in the late 80’s an organization called “Queer Nation” achieved the national spotlight, which was good because they brought LGBT issues to the eyes and ears of mainstream society.
What was bad was that they brazenly asserted that they had the agreement of all right-thinking LGBT organizations to SPEAK ON THEIR BEHALF, oh, and that we’d ALL DECIDED to identify as “Queer” from now on as a time saver, inspired by the Black movement who similarly “reclaimed” a former slur as an empowerment.
This did not actually go over well with millions of LGBT people who had in fact fought for the OPPOSITE of being labeled and seen as “weird”, “different”, “abnormal” and “loathsome”. Many organizations chose to just go along with it to maintain the short-term benefit. There was no vote.
And now, without consent, the Queer Movement assigns their label to all of us, including historical figures who certainly would have been against it. We who are not complacent face scorn, insensitivity, accusations of “homophobia” and open retaliation if we speak out against this harmful practice.
Kangol2
S. Anderson, your history of Queer Nation and LGBTQ history is pure fantasy. Nothing of the sort you described occurred in the time frames you are stating. Please, go read up on LGBTQ history–or watch any number of authoritative, informative films and videos–before you come on this site spouting absolutely ahistorical nonsense. Please, you’re embarrassing yourself!
Diplomat
The only thing S got wrong was that Queer Nation started in 1990 instead of the late 80s, which is hardly important. Otherwise “queer” usage came right out of that melting pot. If you have differing info, please do enlighten us. And yes Millis of gays were and are still super pissed about tagging our movement with an irreconcilable turd word called “queer”.
I liked S. Anderson’s comment. It’s right on the money.
S.anderson
Kangol seems to prefer the New, Cleansed Queer History. Go figure.
abfab
@queersteeeers
You’re too obvious. Be a GOPTROLL, but somewhere else please. Move to London that is, if you’re not London. It’s hard to tell the difference when you spew the same identical shit as one another.
Can you make your offerings any longer? Knock yourself out. But no one really cares about your right wing bullshit.
Kangol2
For clueless people like Still_offthemark, there were 350+ incidents of anti-LGBTQ violence in the US in 2022, and those are just the ones that were recorded. I am not sure how out of touch or privileged you have to be not to realize things are still quite dangerous out there and getting ever more so as the GQP and right-wingers ramp up their attacks, but clearly, some people need to be reminded of the reality that many LGBTQ Americans face. (Cf. “Report Cites More Than 350 Anti-L.G.B.T.Q. Incidents Over 11 Months”, New York Times, June 22, 2023)
In addition, globally 2022 was the DEADLIEST year for LGBTQ people in a decade, according to the International Lesbian and Gay Association Europe’s (ILGA Europe) 2023 report. And this was just covering Europe and Central Asia, not the rest of the globe.
“An annual report of LGBTQ human rights exposes how rising hate speech and hostility from political and religious figures has resulted in a surge of anti-LGBTQ attacks and suicides in 2022, now revealed as the most violent year for LGBTQ people in the past decade.” (Impakter, “Anti-LGBTQ Violence in 2022: The Deadliest Year in A Decade,” February 24, 2023).
Diplomat
Thank you for the statistics as LGBs die violent deaths on the trans sword.
S.anderson
Pragmatic folks would love to see these attacks broken down by L. G. B. T. and Q. Also, we’re still waiting for proof of this epidemic of suicides. It’s a frequently repeated narrative, but we note that it’s considered offensive to ask for the proof, which is so sus.
abfab
@sanderson.
You’re a bore.
London_resistance
S.anderson “we’re still waiting for proof of this epidemic of suicides.”
You’ll be waiting a long, long time for those!
First thing you have to learn about the trans and gender woo-woo is that they lie and lie and lie. Everything about trans is a lie
You can’t change your sex- that is a lie
Being born in the wrong body- another lie. Most trans ‘women’ are sexual kinksters
Puberty blockers are irreversible and are very toxic drugs
Trans murder rates are laughably inaccurate – being trans is the safest demographic here in Europe and the USA. Gay men are far more likely to be murdered
Trans suicide rates, another monstrous lie
The number of detransitioners is tiny. Another lie, there are a huge number of detransitioners who are spurned by trans activists
Be kind- another lie, whereas tranzies demand you are kind to them they in return are the most entitled abusive and aggressive men you can meet
“We just want to pee” that’s all! Another monstrous lie. They aim to colonise women’s toilets and spaces for the own sexual kink purposes
abfab
Out of all the assholes who post comments here, you are the most frightening. Your anger rears its ugly head with every word. You are a danger to society. I would hate to bump into you on the street or a Gay bar (although it’s easy to tell, you don’t go out much, if at all).
I’m sure your entire body, your face and your odor are horrifying. You are a gross monstrosity, the worst of humanity. And you’re a fascist.
Perhaps your head will just explode. No one is in the mood for your anger and your rants and your twisted view of society. Find a psychoanalyst.
S.anderson
@abfab: You simply sound terrified that there are still people in the world who remember events as they really happened, see things now as they really are and still have the balls to speak heresy. It might open people’s eyes and inspire more of all of it, eh?
abfab
Yes, I’m absolutely terrified. And you’re a dick. Your life must be filled with joy and happieness….yeah, right.
S.anderson
@abfab: “We aim to provide a fun, entertaining, and enjoyable space that celebrates LGBTQ people and culture. We encourage people to comment on articles and engage in conversations, and we strongly discourage (and will not allow) being mean-spirited. Read the Queerty Comment Policy.”
abfab
You’re a dictator AND a shmuck.
abfab
@london.resistance
Out of all the assholes who post comments here, you are the most frightening. Your anger rears its ugly head with every word. You are a danger to society. I would hate to bump into you on the street or a Gay bar (although it’s easy to tell, you don’t go out much, if at all).
I’m sure your entire body, your face and your odor are horrifying. You are a gross monstrosity, the worst of humanity. And you’re a fascist.
Perhaps your head will just explode. No one is in the mood for your anger and your rants and your twisted view of society. Find a psychoanalyst.
London_resistance
Diplomat, whereas the gay and lesbian movement was quite literally from the grass roots. When i was campaigning for gay and lesbian equality in the 90s we went from pub to pub collecting cash in buckets, harassing gay clubbers as they queued for their cash. And people gave freely. Out of this cash we rented offices, paid for phone lines, paid for materials to make banners etc etc. So the London gays and lesbians paid for all this themselves. If a tv or radio debate was offered we took the opportunity to go and explain our case, and the reason why we should have equality under the law.
But this trans shlt has come from the very very rich trans identified men Astroturfing us- pretending that men dressing as women is the latest trend, and subsidising chaos to further their trans cause.
Definition of Astroturf; simulated or artificially created public support for something, generated by an orchestrated marketing or public relations campaign.
“an Astroturf movement designed to trample any opposition”
Billionaire trans identified men subsidised the buying of influence
During the 70s and 80s the CIA gave funds to the most insane left wing organisations in Europe in order to create chaos amongst the left, so that the loons with all the money infiltrated the ordinary left and they seemingly had limitless funds. How this works is this: We had one example of this from a bunch of spoiled middle class trots who infiltrated our gay and lesbian campaigning organisation and almost split us up, getting us bogged down in points of order, how we should give our hard earned funds to ‘people of colour’ rather than wasting it on campaigning for white gay rights etc etc. Total nutjobs
But the trans learned from these techniques and infiltrated our gay and lesbian organisations. It started off with ‘inclusivity’ gay white men must open up our organisations to the more oppressed and from that suddenly trans women were in positions of power. The same thing happened to feminist and lesbian groups. Once the trans identified men were in it and were running the groups it was impossible to remove them
abfab
Thank you Ron DeSantis.
abfab
Please ring NHS. Maybe they can help you with your issues. I’d say, there’s always hope…..but not with you. Keep enjoying your life, London. It sounds like loads of fun.
London_resistance
Abfab- my my my what an angry little person you are
S.anderson
@London: and utterly lacking the ability or will to change hearts and minds. Their whole routine seems to be “I’ll poke them with a sharp stick and then point at my victim’s escalating indignation as proof of what awful foes I fight!” They make no points and offer no facts, merely delivering explosive personal attack after attack. Why do they never get moderated? If the moderators are biased toward their loyal rottweiler, they ought to realize they’re actually harming their cause by allowing this out in the open.
abfab
You’re projection is rejected, London. Angry? Calling you out on your shit isn’t anger. I know I’m not the first to let you know that someone like you needs to be put down and quashed.
Little person…how cute. Now fvk off. Go jump in the Thames.
abfab
@s.anderson/Diplomat
Censorship must be a beautiful idea for you. Let us know how that all pans out.
abfab
And London. Please. It’s very considerate of you to number your thoughts in such a neat and orderly fashion. We see that it helps you in sorting out what goes on in your head. Keep trying…you still come across as vile and twisted as President Trump. He doesn’t use that clever bullet point method, but he is easier to comprehend then you are.
How is that even possible. You both belong behind bars.
Diplomat
London,
Interesting you mention the hostile takeover by the trans billionaires. I’ve been scratching my head for weeks wondering why school boards here were pushing the trans ideology causing pure havoc with teachers getting fired for rebelling at pronouns and teaching kids they can be a boy or a girl. Parents are just livid. Pure chaos. Watching vids on YouTube the other day a news channel spelled out exactly what you are saying. Seems the trans mafia has been funding school boards in trade for teaching trans ideology. The good news is it’s totally backfiring through legislation against boys on girls sports teams in girls locker rooms and showers etc. Lawsuits are making their way in the courts.
The thing is, these pushy trans activists have no defense and choke up speechless when asked “what is a woman”? Or they flail around with bs answers that make no sense. Even the president of the Human Rights Campaign Kelly Robinson made a complete fool of herself in from of congress flailing and not answering direct questions. Congress finally realized she wasn’t going to comply with the questions and basically ended the session.
YouTube is full of videos showing trans irrational wrecklessness. Like Trump, they constantly shoot themselves in the foot with bogus information or spin out in fits of rage. I.E. Abfab. Perfect example of their defense strategy. Bitch moan and spit fire with zero intelligent conversation. Hence they are setting up a strong backlash they will not prevail over. Most of which is aimed at destroying the family structure and women’s rights in the process. Women here are dazed and livid at how disrespected the trans community is of their private spaces and sports awards being lost to men in dresses.
What is happening in your school system and women’s rights in general there? Id be interested in hearing from you on this point.
So good to hear from someone who fought the good fight for the LGB community years ago. Now it’s time for reparations for the damage the trans community has caused us. I think it’s time for LGBs to rise up and rebel against their lewd predatory behavior against our women and children. Unfortunately, silence equals complicit in this case. It’s time our voices are heard loud and clear.
abfab
Diplomate, you don’t have a head. Now please return to your local cahpter of Q Anon and bring your London buddy with you. No one is willing to sift thru your endless rants. You’re wasting your time and your life on WOO WOO.
London_Resistance2
HI Diplomat
here in the UK the Astroturfing organisation has been one we set up back in the 80s to fight Mrs Thatcher’s homophobia- called Stonewall. It was set up by a group of campaigning gays and lesbians and for a couple of decades it fulfilled its function perfectly, being at the forefront of the fight for gay and lesbian equality- it even organised for Sir Ian McKellan (Gandalf) to have tea with the new Prime Minister after Mrs Thatcher was toppled from power in 1990.
All went well until after we got gay marriage- which the conservatives introduced. This shows you how much things had changed since the days of Thatcher that the right wing introduced gay marriage, and Stonewall’s campaigning was important in this
However, having done it’s job what now? It had millions of pounds in its coffers. It had an enormous bureaucracy and staff- they had to do something. So the director of the time Ruth hunt decided they would promote trans issues- and this they duly started upon.
They mysteriously became much richer and acquired an influence they never had when promoting boring old gay and lesbians. Suddenly we gays and lesbians were no longer same sex attracted, we were same gender attracted.
They declared trans issues were NOT up for debate. No Discussion- No debate. The chair of Stonewall declared that lesbians who refused to ‘date’ trans women were equivalent to racists and bigots. They set themselves up trainers on the new alphabet soup and suddenly we the LG were now the LGBTQA+++ – Now they got massive fees for advising companies and govts on the gender awards system, and had a stonewall representative on every company board, in every govt dept -local and national, threatening to give a company or govt body bad publicity unless it conformed to the gender woo-woo shlt
As if all that wasn’t bad enough they were doing the same to UK schools- doing much the same over here as the gender activists have done in the USA and Canada- kids told they must be one of 100 genders. You know the story! Parents not being told their kids have changed gender etc etc
However a recent court case here has empowered an org we set up called the lesbian and gay alliance and over the last couple of years awkward questions have started to be asked of Stonewall and their “No debate, no discussion” has been heavily criticised, particularly as the Tavistock, the UKs gender woo-woo clinic was shut down as people found out kids were being transed with no supervision.
If you are interested in a seeing a sky news interrogatin of the gay man who runs Stonewall currently type in sky new beth rigby interviews stonewall into google or youtube- it’s a most enlightening interrogation
London_Resistance2
’ve been cancelled by queerty for my comments, i have been blocked and this is a fallback log in!
Personally speaking some of the many infuriating aspects of this trans/gender nonsense is how the traNAZIses have managed to topsy-turvey the world:
Left wing politicians i used to like now give stupid answers when asked ‘How do you define a woman?’
And right wing anuseh0les become heroes for being able to define a woman!
Left becomes right
Up becomes down
Science is subverted,
Medicine is subverted, where the patient tells the doctor he’s in the wrong body and the doc says: “Sure, just sign for surgery here”
Trans ideology replaces research
People speak utter nonsense and get cheered
Left wing women, old feminist socialists, who advanced gay/lesbians rights for decades and to whom we all owe a debt, get threatened by 18 year male students
Biological reality becomes hate speech
Truth becomes bigotry
Censorship becomes imperative to prevent offence
And in the middle of all this Homophobia increasingly becomes acceptable and joyous because we are no longer same sex attracted but now we are same gender attracted and if gay men or lesbians spurn heterosexual opportunists then we are bigoted.
Gay male only clubs are now infested with women with a fetish for gay men
Lesbian clubs have nearly totally vanished and are full of ugly men calling themselves lesbians who threaten the actual women for rejecting them
Same with all our gay/lesbian apps
Gender-bending something once liberating when it was done by bowie and boy george has become a cage & and trap for young gays and lesbians, who now if they show aspects of opposite sex behaviour are rushed off to the clinic to be snipped.
We we loved Boy George and David Bowiefor challenging gender norms. We didn’t tell them they were “in the wrong body.
Offensive anti gay/lesbian words like queer, hurled at us as teens, are now used by heterosexuals who want to be a bit kinky, cos they feel that being heterosexual is really boring
Young hetero girls with a fetish for gay men now are encouraged to call us ‘fa@ggots’ and they get away with it- and the idiots on here whoop and cheer them – cos it is progressive innit
Doctors and therapists who only a few years ago were on our side against homophobes, now glibly wave through gay and lesbian kids through the gate and give them irreversible toxic drugs that rot the heart and bones, and then push them onwards on the trans conveyor belt, where they end up castrated with a lifelong weeping wound between their legs
abfab
Woo woo!
S.anderson
I don’t get the difficulty of defining “a woman” (and “a girl”). Women and girls are gender identities (which are constructs) based upon Traditional Sex Roles (also constructs) which a given culture assigns to females. The overwhelming majority (around 99.4%)* of women and girls are female, but need not be. Male “trans”women/girls (and female “trans”men/boys) are worthy of humanity and respect.
Nobody should dictate what traits a person should have according to their genitals or genetics. Likewise, nobody should assign or label a person’s sex or gender according to TSR they align with. That’s daft – though it’s routine practice in the trans community! TSR don’t fit everyone, are not a true yardstick for normalcy, and they should be exposed and challenged. Identifying a person’s immutable sex is obviously not “assigning them a gender”.
Of course, if certain women and girls were allowed to feel like they could be accepted for who they are, despite having a penis, there would be a lot less anxiety and self-loathing to use to leverage them into the hormone and $urgery pipeline. Ditto for certain men and boys who are in conflict with their vaginas (the more frequent scenario). Also, boys and girls experiencing Gender Dysphoria who enter puberty usually transition to gay/lesbian/bi identities. We don’t want to be rushing a generation of nice lesbian, gay and bi youth into hormone therapy and the Big Snip-Snip, now do we? There is a lively narrative, but little evidence, that these GD youth will commit suicide.
As for sports, I think it’s high time we grouped athletes according to strength and weight class, not by sex (or gender identities). Individual shower and toilet stalls are more common now than gang showers and trough urinals anyway, so bathrobes would round up the privacy question. Having lived in clothing optional housing myself, I easily see a day in which nudity makes a big comeback (today’s allegedly “sex-positive” generation are actually disappointingly prudish). On a side note, I’d love to see summer camps or other social programs which mix trans boys with cis boys who provide role models and validation for their gender identities. I’m all for ending Barbie culture and raising girls to be assertive, empowered tomboys too.
*google the Gallup “U.S. LGBT Identification” Study
abfab
Why would anyone Google something that you’re suggesting? Unending chapters which are long and boring, no one reads and no one is interested in; save for your creepy online Q Anon buddys from the UK, etc.
abfab
They didn’t ban or censor you. You’re just too stupid to know how to post things properly. Some words deemed too obscene will also keep you hanging. They may be objectional. Like yourself. Sorry that you found your way back in.
The UK branch of Q Anon is waiting for you to return to work. You need them. You’re bullshit is wearing thin. Take your theories and your conspiracies and shove them up your arse.
London_Resistance2
oh dear, you’re still such an angry little man
why don’t you come and sniff my old tennis shoes and then beat your meat. Cos that’s probably the only excitement you’re going to get all week
abfab
woo woo
Gurl…..I’d consider that if you could get your high heel pumps off of your swolen, mangey feet. Save the tennis shoes for the kids down the road. Now sit down child! Let someone help you off with those.
S.anderson
“abfab woo woo Gurl…..”
Excuse me but DID YOU JUST ASSUME THEIR GENDER?
Everyone knows that’s a big no-no!
Please try to be a good human being.
Diplomat
London,
Are any reparations under way?
S.
Abflab isn’t about being good, he’s about being the chaotic little demon that he is. His soul is fragmented from trauma and he can’t repair as he doesn’t know how. Hence all the rage. It can be a constant chaotic state of anxiety. Tough life that one.
Good that you are trying to coax him into being a better person but that is almost impossible unless he gets the right help. The depth of his issues are mammoth. With most men it takes a life or death scenario to address that deep dark jungle and straighten it all out.
abfab
The demented Dr. Diplomat.
London_Resistance2
Silly gays like Abfab are basically Pimps, procuring young gullible gay men for the profit of the medical and drugs industry
That’s all cheerleaders of trans ideology like abfab and his other witless promoters are: pimps
abfab
Right, cheers, thanks a lot. You’re a mess.
London_Resistance2
Just been chatting with gender critical middle aged woman, on the left, who is organising a women’s event in Manchester here in the UK, and this is what she says:
Hopefully I have fought off my horrible cold and will be fit and ready for Manchester on Saturday for #Transpositions2! Let’s just run through the checklist of what a little lady has to do to host a gender critical event in 2023…
1. Seek reassurance from police and probation that we will be protected from violent men.
2. Delay announcing the venue until the last minute in case violent men turn up or harass the venue owners
3. Pay for additional security
4. Rely on the good will of volunteer female stewards
Needless to say many of us men are volunteering to protect the women from the male thugs
abfab
You’re very strange.
Diplomat
London_Resistance2
HI Diplomat
here in the UK the Astroturfing organisation has been one we set up back in the 80s to fight Mrs Thatcher’s homophobia- called Stonewall. It was set up by a group of campaigning gays and lesbians and for a couple of decades it fulfilled its function perfectly, being at the forefront of the fight for gay and lesbian equality- it even organised for Sir Ian McKellan (Gandalf) to have tea with the new Prime Minister after Mrs Thatcher was toppled from power in 1990.
All went well until after we got gay marriage- which the conservatives introduced. This shows you how much things had changed since the days of Thatcher that the right wing introduced gay marriage, and Stonewall’s campaigning was important in this
However, having done it’s job what now? It had millions of pounds in its coffers. It had an enormous bureaucracy and staff- they had to do something. So the director of the time Ruth hunt decided they would promote trans issues- and this they duly started upon.
They mysteriously became much richer and acquired an influence they never had when promoting boring old gay and lesbians. Suddenly we gays and lesbians were no longer same sex attracted, we were same gender attracted.
They declared trans issues were NOT up for debate. No Discussion- No debate. The chair of Stonewall declared that lesbians who refused to ‘date’ trans women were equivalent to racists and bigots. They set themselves up trainers on the new alphabet soup and suddenly we the LG were now the LGBTQA+++ – Now they got massive fees for advising companies and govts on the gender awards system, and had a stonewall representative on every company board, in every govt dept -local and national, threatening to give a company or govt body bad publicity unless it conformed to the gender woo-woo shlt
As if all that wasn’t bad enough they were doing the same to UK schools- doing much the same over here as the gender activists have done in the USA and Canada- kids told they must be one of 100 genders. You know the story! Parents not being told their kids have changed gender etc etc
However a recent court case here has empowered an org we set up called the lesbian and gay alliance and over the last couple of years awkward questions have started to be asked of Stonewall and their “No debate, no discussion” has been heavily criticised, particularly as the Tavistock, the UKs gender woo-woo clinic was shut down as people found out kids were being transed with no supervision.
If you are interested in a seeing a sky news interrogatin of the gay man who runs Stonewall currently type in sky new beth rigby interviews stonewall into google or youtube- it’s a most enlightening interrogation.
Hi London,
I just got finished with Sky news Beth Rigby interviews Lain Anderson head of Stonewall over there. I Became quite aware that somebody created a hybrid human weasel combination in Lame Anderson. Like most trans people which I don’t think he is, though I’m not sure, he didn’t answer direct questions and flustered off into the word salad universe when it came to trans women in sports and Trans women/males in women’s private spaces. He is non credible and should be fired as should the head of the Human Rights Campaign over here. I can only thank God that laws are being put in place here more and more each day to protect bio women’s rights. I hope you get what you’re after over there too.
Sweden got it right: they have never allowed trans women on bio women’s sports teams and they just made puberty blockers illegal after 40ish years. Trans women/ males are not allowed in real women’s private spaces either.
Keep us posted on your progress there as this info was very enlightening that you recommended. I didn’t know there was a Stonewall UK. Beth is a great interviewer. Keep after that weasel Anderson. He needs to put up or shut up.
Diplomat
PS I love Ian/Gandalf! So cool you worked with him.
abfab
Boring bullshit.
London_Resistance2
It’s sunday the 23rd at 14:12 hours July and a report from the let-women-speak event in Portsmouth on the south coast of the UK has the women surrounded by screaming and hysterical young men wearing masks, being held back from attacking the women physically by the police
London_Resistance2
Abfab, what have you done with your life?
when satan appears before you to take you down to your rightful place to his right side, what will you say?
“Well, I haunted the pages of queerty, promoting the pimping of gay and lesbian kids down a road to eunuchness and desperate unhappiness and regret, at the same time increasing the profits of the medical and drugs companies”
“Excellent!” says Lucifer, “get down on your knees and sniff my stinky tennis shoes, and after you’ve beaten your meat you can go and join the other gay quislings licking the shltty bumholes of my demons”
“That seems apt!” says abfab
abfab
You’re a mess.
London_Resistance2
Are you just a tranzie programmed Pimp bot?
Diplomat
Hey London,
He’s due for a diaper change hence poopie smell everywhere. And he misses his hometown Hell. What’s a muthah ta do…..
London_Resistance2
Diplomat, if you’re interested in viewing an intriguing interview with someone talking about how trans has changed since around 2017 to conquer the world today type in:
What EXACTLY Happened That Completely Changed Trans?
into youtube or even google