Photographer Ed Freeman created the gay flag image to the right more than 10 years ago for the cover of Frontiers magazine. Since then, it has been used across countless social media posts for its highly recognizable features — four men work to raise a rainbow flag, instantly evoking Joe Rosenthal’s Pulitzer Prize-winning 1945 photo at Iwo Jima (left).
Most recently, Freeman’s image resurfaced after last week’s Supreme Court victory. Freeman himself posted the picture to his Facebook account with the following message:
When I took this picture almost ten years ago, it never, never occurred to me that it would someday come to symbolize the victory we are celebrating today. Congratulations to all of us! Love to you all.
But many were upset at the implied comparison between the struggle for gay rights and the sacrifice on the battle field.
“Im all for gay rights and equal for all but DO NOT DISRESPECT THOSE WHO SERVED, SACRIFICED, AND DIED FOR YOUR COUNTRY AND YOUR RIGHTS AND FREEDOM,” wrote one commenter in response to Freeman’s post. “Its this shit that will drive ppl to hate on you. You WANT RESPECT THEN GIVE IT TO THOSE WHO DESERVE AND EARNED IT.”
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Reaction on Twitter was similar:
I don’t say much, but this is too far. Do NOT take away from the Men and woman who fight and die for your “freedom”.. pic.twitter.com/Tdj5MxOXiC
— Robert Ybarra III (@albino_mexican3) July 2, 2015
The gay flag remake of the flag that flew at Iwo Jima is just insulting to America and those who have died for this country
— Jacob Anthony (@LabGrappler_95) June 27, 2015
But then again, the same person soon after Tweeted:
Hearing thats kids will be learning about incest, homosexuality, bisexuality in kindergarten makes me sick
— Jacob Anthony (@LabGrappler_95) June 28, 2015
One threat was so troubling, Freeman reported it to the FBI. “He said if he ever saw me, he’d kill me,” he told the Washington Post. “I got swamped with vitriolic hate mail.”
“The principle complaint that people have is that I am equating the gay struggle with the contribution and sacrifice of American servicemen,” Freeman said. “But there is no equal sign here. This is not meant as a sign of disrespect. For God sake, no. I totally support people in uniform. There is no comparison going on here. The comparison is going on in people’s heads, and they’re spoiling for a fight. They’re already on edge because of the gay marriage decision.”
He added that before social media, his photo would only have been seen by people who wanted to see it, not by “straight people from small towns in Idaho.”
Is this a meme malfunction, or does everyone just need to simmer down?
Robb Forehand
It was a metaphor. Sheesh.
Dominic Mancuso
Andrew Crump
J.r. Graff
That pic of the rainbow flag being hoisted up like that of the flag at Iwa jima has been around for YEARS …. and so why now the controversy ?
Dan Steele
It should have never been designed. The battle at Iwo Jima is not nearly the same as a court battle. Our military forces deserve better recognition. I’m gay and I find the image on the right to be a disgrace to our military.
Harold Powell
Boo Hoo
Christopher Hayward
Nope.
mastik8
I’m sure they were just as upset when MTV spoofed it. Indeed when the several thousand other spoofs occurred as well. Wait, what? They weren’t?
Corey Michael DeCola
I think gays, actually people in general are whiney little bitches. There’s always going to be something to complain about, to fight about, to cause debate about. Just face it, the human race as we know it is fucked…
As for the picture, it was 10 years ago. It’s just another outlet for people to complain about. Humans=Pussified Complainers.
Clarence Standish
The long battle to freedom and equality has not stopped just because we won a court case. Freeman’s photograph is an appropriate symbol honoring all of our queer brothers and sisters who have died, been beaten, stomped, kicked, hated on, and bullied over the long decades, centuries. Ed Freeman was truly inspired here.
Atrius
Simmer down, but understand we’re talking about Americans here. They tend to be ignorant and reactionary. So it shouldn’t be surprising they would react this way.
Mandrake
People do need to simmer down. Freeman is not EQUATING the SCOTUS decision to the thousands of soldiers lost on the battlefield of Iwo Jima. The original photo of the brave men erecting the American flag on Iwo Jima represented a major win for them after a devastating battle. The violence and death of warfare during a world war is DIFFERENT from winning our freedom to finally marry after decades of struggle and even violence and death in our own ranks.
However, the use of the Iwo Jima photo is certainly appropriate to convey the gravity of what the SCOTUS decision meant. In fact, it is a fitting tribute to our men who fought this battle in Iwo Jima that Freeman would use it. How many courageous gay men were killed at Iwo Jima? I’d say a significant number.
Ladbrook
Oh please. The subtext of that “don’t disrespect my heroes” crap is that the people complaining about it would be complaining regardless. It’s not dissimilar to those who used to rage against “gay rights” who now claim that they are “just” against redefining marriage (see: Limbaugh, Rush or Cruz, Ted).
As another poster accurately stated: it’s a metaphor!
If anyone has a right to complain, it’s women in the marriage equality movement. They were 50% of the battle and deserve 50% of the credit (see: Windsor, Edith).
I love the photo. Let’s send a framed print of it to Sarah Palin and Anton Scalia.
Bobby French
Freedom!
aliengod
Personally, I think the photo is disrespectful. It’s just in poor taste.
stranded
@Ladbrook: I agree with you, the only thing that bothers me is the lack of a lesbian presence. It’s misogynistic to imply gay men are the sole warriors to the cause. I’m sure that wasn’t his intention, but i can’t help and always see examples of separatism in a community that’s suppose to be made up of LGBTQ.
lauraspencer
@aliengod:
I agree. It is in poor taste.
Not to mention it is derivative. Couldn’t a photographer come up with an original pose to capture a shot that symbolizes gay equality?
lauraspencer
and of course they all look like they are 20-somethings who just came from a West Hollywood gym. Couldn’t there be more diversity? A woman? Trans? Someone pudgy?
rmthunter
First off, you’re talking, for the most part, about people for whom outrage is something to be treasured. It’s close to being an innate characteristic. They were outraged at Windsor v. U.S., at Lawrence v. Texas, at Loving v. Virginia, at Brown v. Board of Education, and on back throughout our history of including more and more people as full members of our society.
As for being disrespectful, does that include those service members who had to remain closeted so they could be allowed to fight for our freedom? (Remember the outrage at the repeal of DADT?)
Sorry, I have neither the time nor the inclination to cater to their fantasies of how it should be. I’m too busy trying to deal with the way it is.
rickhfx
@Atrius: You hit the nail on the head, Don’t forget, the love of bible and gun too.
rickhfx
@rmthunter:
Thank you.
rjthorsen
Gerard Donelan (cartoonist) did a LGBT version of the Iwo Jima image over twenty years ago in the late 80’s or early 90’s (I have a T-shirt with the image, unfortunately I do not see a way to include a picture of it in this post.)
The Iwo Jima representation has been re-created numerous times in support of one cause or another since 1945, here are some: http://news.usni.org/2015/02/23/iwo-jima-at-70-the-most-reproduced-and-parodied-photo-in-history
scotshot
@Dan Steele: @ Dan Steele @aliengod @lauraspencer I agree. There should have been gay men or women acknowledged for their contributions and the sacrifice of their lives for the United States in all wars so you could come here and post derogatory comments. The disrespect shown is from people like you towards homosexuals. F*ck all of you.
Creig Stearne
Was the original image not knocked off for the 9/11 image?
scotshot
@Corey Michael DeCola: “Gays are whiney little bitches?” and “humans=pussified complainers?” Flagged.
Bribri Brinklemeyer
This sums up how people are:
Desert Boy
Like gay men and women don’t honorably serve the USA and fight for our freedoms?
osman
Make Love NOT War !! that’s what that rainbow flag symbolizes to me ! if people stopped being haters and start loving maybe we might be able to save Humanity some day!!
Maude
As a gay retired Marine, I can tell you that IMO, there are many more gay Marines than there are gays in the other armed services.
That said,
I don’t like using the American Flag that I fought for and could have been killed for, being used for anything other than it’s original intent…..That is that the American flag stands for Freedom, and Justice for all, including Gays.
Misuse of the Flag from any quarter,Gay or straight, makes my blood boil.
TheAngryFag
Ah the Internet Rage-Machine is at it again. What I find amusing is that people are offended over the photo and how it “disrespects the military” yet they’re conveniently silent when our government treats our military like shit.
Where is this rage when they were sent to go play Family Feud Extreme Desert Edition for George W Bush? Where is this rage that our military members get shit in the way of support? Where is the rage that 25% of military veterans are homeless? Or that almost 10% of homeless individuals today are vets from George W Bush’s wars?
But you get mad of a metaphorical photograph? Good God Gurls Get a Grip!
osman
@Corey Michael DeCola: Hey Corey I bet I can make you my whiney little bitch ! Bro i can make you smile !
Bauhaus
@rmthunter:
Excellent comment and enjoyed your blog!
Are you not fond of Rachmaninoff Piano Concerto No. 2 and No. 3?
Beethoven Piano Concerto No. 5?
Tchaikovsky Piano Concerto No. 1?
Beethoven Sonatas are a staple (Glenn Gould – humming included); piano concertos move me. Euphoria.
Maude
@osman:
You say that here, on a site where we see hate for everybody, and everything that has a contrary opinion about……politics, religion, and gay life in general,It would seem….only the opinion that agrees with their opinion, is the opinion allowed to be expressed.
Jim Teutsch
And I’m retired military and find all this “moral outrage” to be egotistical and childish. Grow up and then find something truly worthy of our condemnation like hatred, bigotry, discrimination, homelessness, hunger, poverty, etc. rather than a frickin’ picture that quite frankly is kinda awesome.
osman
@Maude: Bro you have confused me i’m not the sharpest tool in the toolbox, Thats why I studied sports science lol !
Kangol
I don’t think it’s such a big deal but where are the lesbians and trans people who fought from the beginning for LGBTIQ rights and freedoms?
Jonny B. Mitchell
I just commented on this backlash on Abc7 facebook page lol. Ooo ppl are NOT happy lol
Cesar Fortun
Operation Detatchmen and Operation Gaytatchment!
Michael Lucewicz
Why is it that THIS image is offensive and not any of these? Common people.. http://news.usni.org/2015/02/23/iwo-jima-at-70-the-most-reproduced-and-parodied-photo-in-history
Lotta Yadayada
I’m a big ol’ fairy and I’m offended by the image. Have been since I first saw it.
AtticusBennett
who’s outraged? pathetic bigots? who cares.
these are the folks who didn’t want LGBT people to be able to serve in the military because it forces them to “support gays” while they (pretend) to passionately “Support the Troops!”
and to anyone who thinks it still doesn’t take bravery to raise a rainbow flag – try it on your own front yard.
AtticusBennett
fun fact – know what the anti-gay response to the “Facebook rainbow” pictures is? it’s your profile picture with the american flag superimposed over it. NOT KIDDING. that’s been their “Facebook counter-move to all that rainbow equality” – because to those bigots, “freedom and america” means being anti-gay.
if you’re upset about “Flag misusage” get upset that anti-gay bigots are using the American flag as a symbol meaning “gays shouldn’t be allowed to marry”
Mark Hesselgrave
Avery Alvarez
Who cares?
Those people are all assholes who complain about gay people doing anything.
If anything, i think we should troll angry homophobes even more by adopting the things they hold dear – the American flag, for example.
Evji108
The conservatives and the Christian right are feeling sensitive these days now that we have a real victory on our hands. One would expect a fresh blast of pushback for this photo. It may have been around for a few years, but it has taken on a new meaning, with Gay marriage. There could be a fresh wave of anti-gay violence following as well, so keep your eyes peeled, this ain’t over yet.
Trainman2005
Just Google “Iwo Jima flag planting parody”
This picture has been parodied MANY times, and no moral outrage. The outrage expressed on the internet over the new gay version is comming from the same people that express rage over ANYTHING gay positive. No doubt the same people had an aneurism over the WHite House lit up with the rainbow. Consider the source…
cchou444
I have seen this photo recreated with bikini clad women, but there was no talk of disrespect then…….
lauraspencer
@scotshot:
Thank you for your comment! Happy Independence Day! Hope you get some time to relax and let go of your anger.
Hugs and cartwheels!
Auxifur Wolfgram
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John DeGregory
Former combat zone marine here. I second Jim Teutsch.
onthemark
Someone should do this with a Confederate flag – four white guys with “wifebeater” shirts and big fat beer bellies!
Shasta
It’s tacky as f*ck, and not a good reflection on our community.
unsterblich
It may not be the exact same struggle at all, but do remember people died in the fight for LGBT equality, too. The same emotions of victory from the Iwo Jima picture can be evoked from the gay flag picture with the recent ruling on marriage equality.
martinbakman
I remember when June Thomas at Slate kinda went a little bonkers about the New Yorker showing a very modest and simple picture of Bert and Ernie snuggling in front of TV news (it was the celebration of New York approving gay marriage). There’s always been this running joke how Bert and Ernie were two guys that share a bedroom and never talk about dating women. So when the New Yorker ran this cover I thought it was frankly darling. She didn’t.
There are always people I suppose that are offended by this kind of art, whether it’s an image that borrows from famous Sesame Street characters, or an image that reflects on the iconic Iwo Jima image.
The LGBT community has certainly suffered many losses and many deaths. So these celebratory images seem very apropos to me.
Jos Mastron
Art is derivative, get over it.
dvlaries
When I first moved to Alexandria in September 1983, I was informed it was ‘common knowledge’ that the Iwo Jima memorial was a gay cruising ground after dark. I was 29, already settled in with the husband I’m still with, past that kind of thing, so I didn’t test it personally. Plus AIDS was getting its shoes on, and no moment for dalliances with strangers. Anybody from that area can confirm or contradict…?
Yatsuhashi
If we want to get technical, the Japanese could get offended at the original image because thousands of their soldiers died during that conflict. Funny thing is, they’re not. We need to remember and learn from, but let go of the past. This new image is a metaphor for victory in marriage equality just as the original was a victory for the Americans over the Japanese. I don’t understand why everyone is getting so bent out of shape.
dtxgwm
it is in poor taste.
OhHellNo
I don’t have a problem with the gay “re-enactment”, partially because the original famous photo was staged. The photographer captured guys raising the flag, but re-did it because the thought the flag was too small. That great pic that conservatives jerk off to was about as spontaneous as all those “reality shows” that are in fact scripted to the minute.
Bob LaBlah
What he could do is an update where a gay, bi, lesbian and transexual are the ones planting the rainbow flag. It needs an update. Hopefully they won’t all look like they just stepped out of Bally/David Barton/LA Fitness/Gold’s/World gyms. The same goes for age. Four people can cover a lot of ground if done right.
enfilmigult
Seems okay to me. We’re not exactly talking about a struggle in which people DIDN’T die or make horrible sacrifices. I find it hard to believe someone would find this “disrespectful” unless they just plain didn’t support the issue itself.
scotshot
@lauraspencer: Angry? Why would I be angry with you? I don’t waste the time or emotional investment to be angry at someone of your ilk.
John Smith
It’s disgusting and when I saw it I was ashamed.
Dee Smith
I am a huge supporter of LGBT pride, but NOTHING, and I mean NOTHING replaces our Nation’s flag. I know it’s been, and continues to be a huge battle for members of the LGBT community to gain equal rights, and that many, many people have suffered or died for the right to simply exist, but we need to find other ways to show it. NEVER try to replace my Nation’s flag in any way, shape, or form.
Jon Mackey
I think there’s more important things too focus on over this.
mike51295
Just bought my copy.
Streamciter
I do not bow down to the disgusting, violent militarists who go out to murder children and destroy the environment world-wide in the name of the flag. Our freedoms are won by nonviolent social justice activists, not disgusting violent skinheads who embrace top-down, violent right wing authoritarian militaries. So, yay for this image, down with militarism!
Beach
I wonder where some of these guys who put up this patriotic front to themselves are when it comes to veterans health and their welfare, for some, patriotism is only a pretext for their opinion in order to try and keep away criticisms from that opinion. I want to see these same people fighting for Veteran’s health care, but more than likely you won’t because patriotism is only used at their convenience.
Masc Pride
It’s stupid and disrespectful. Sometimes the queens just take it all too far. Why not commemorate the occasion with a NEW concept and shoot specific to the community? Oh right, because no one is creative anymore. And I thought creativity was supposed to be our thing…
Masc Pride
@Dee Smith: So well put. Totally agree.
scotshot
@Beach:Typical GOTP response. Attack people they don’t know and don’t offer any suggestions on who to contact or what can be done.
Avery Alvarez
It’s incredibly apropos and in fact, didn’t go far enough.
What’s disrespectful is the the losers that are bitching and complaining about it.
I’m glad the artist is now selling copies and donating the funds to LGBT charities.
The sociopaths and psychopaths complaining have no sense of Pride, or decency, or what it means to be a human -empathy, sympathy, compassion. The flag doesn’t belong to them. American victories do not belong to them. And because they’re such mental kcuf-ups with barely functioning human emotions, they should be completely ignored, or better yet, put in a mental institution where they belong.
BiQueen
Dude, you act like there’s never been a gay, lesbian, bisexual, polysexual, pansexual, transgendered, etc. Soldiers. Calm down. I really don’t see how this is in any way offensive or taken “too far”. I really don’t care who said what, no one will ever truly be free until we can all sit in piece and harmony together, and without an argument. We all fight the same battles and for you to sit here and tell me that we don’t deserve the same rights that you are, to the point where we can’t even remake a photo is bullshit. It’s a shame when the world we live in is perfectly fine with same sex marriage, but a fucking picture is taking it too far. Take your prejudices and shove them up your ass. I’m done.
TK
Oh boy, here we go again. This image I’ve seen in countless threads and posted by just about every gay page in Facebook. So damn it, I’ll say it again… Regardless if the Marine’s used it and now, it’s front and center in the Gay community, it’s all about PRIDE people, regardless of your sexual orientation or not, Pride see’s no color etc. Let those breeders go nuts. Let the gays derive what they so see fit, they too, are allowed. When you look at that image, everyone takes from it what they see. Straights just love to bitch/complain/point fingers etc. I’ve had that image in my LGBT image files for at least a decade. I’ve seen it used many times over. My suggestion? It’s a damn image, take from it what you need and FFS, stop slapping it with so much crap, it’ll rapidly become another gay stamped crap, we’re all sick of hearing. Honor the image, for what it’s worth. Pay the respect to those who deserve it… Marine or LGBT pioneers. No sense in getting pissy over it. Sheesh!
David Lapierre
Get a grip, please! Art has been the subject of re-interpretation for centuries.
Jim Beshear
One word NO
Terry Purdue
No. It’s been parodied so many times and this is true to the spirit of the original
This picture celebrates a hard fought victory
Just because the battlefield is different doesn’t make the casualties any less significant
SonOfKings
People offended by this metaphor need to take their “nerve pills” and go to bed! If you want to do something to help our service men and women, DO something that has a real impact. Faggoty, pearl-clutching histrionics won’t help.
edtaylorky
Why all the anger? Their complaint isn’t with the comparison of the struggles (war v. gay rights), since the right calls EVERYTHING a war (War on Christmas, War on Guns, etc.) but of the strugglers. Those who hate LGBT people can’t stand the idea of us being representative of American.
Karen Lynne Kohls
Dwell on what God thinks of you, pure love, not what others think.
Wahya73
@Dan Steele: I am gay and I served in the Marines- I don’t see anything offensive. Struggles against evil are struggles against evil.
Pete
When I was young and irreverent I would have found this very funny. I know a bit more now, and I see brave men involved in perhaps the nastiest battle in American History being parodied by a bunch of Muscle Marys advertising a circuit-party.
Perhaps if it had shown real lesbians and gays as opposed to a tank-top gun show, the comparison would have been valid.
Jason Peil
First if all the image of planting one’s flag on foreign soil is about aggression. It’s not a memorial and it was fake. Secondly the people who are complaining loudly are obviously the same as the ones who tried to stop marriage equality. Thirdly the victims of all these bullies got one serious victory and so to celebrate with pictures is a peaceful act making peace not war. Planting rainbows not nationalism.
I’m not sure anyone can analyze this without acknowledging the obvious fact that although you may love an image it might get reproduced in ways you don’t prefer.
Ellipse Kirk
Silly argument https://www.google.com/search?q=Iwo+Jima+flag+planting+parody&newwindow=1&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=QReYVf991KXIBMHZoNAL&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1329&bih=658
AtticusBennett
@Masc Pride: of course you think it’s stupid. you’re a self-hating queen with no friends.
Susana Heredia
It was wrong for my brothers to do this.
Susana Heredia
As a girl scout I was taught to never alter Ol Glory. As a gay woman I feel this was not right.
lauraspencer
@scotshot:
darling, you don’t know my ilk.
Your posting wasn’t respectful and was angry in tone.
Remember what today is about. We live in a country where we can speak up.
Hope you are feeling better. Maybe you need a hot dog or corn on the cob to feel better.
scotshot
@lauraspencer: I know your ilk. We have to step over you while you’re passed out on the floor.
You’ve forgotten that you have to earn respect, not demand it, and for the second time (you’re repeating again), I don’t waste my energy on anger.
I’m aware of the meaning of the 4th of July. I will even continue to exercise my freedom to speak out. Even regarding someone as inane as you.
Hot dogs and corn on the cob? I imagine you’ve kept them for yourself again, you have so many holes to be filled.
lauraspencer
@Beach:
I agree with you. Our vets are often ignored after their years of service and it is wrong. My father and brother both gave over 20 years service each to the Air Force and both then worked civil service. That is why I find this image disrespectful. Equating our movement to WWII isn’t the same.
lauraspencer
@Masc Pride:
Hi MP!! Happy 4th! I agree with you. I said the same thing earlier.
Out friend, GC has been missing. Makes me think he has created a new screen name. Some new names have popped up so I’m waiting to see who goes after us. That will be when GC reveals himself.
McShane
@lauraspencer: He-who-must-not-be-named85. Holy Sh!t, I just now noticed that. Maybe he’s in rehab for that nasty ellipsis addiction. 😉
Bob LaBlah
@McShane: @lauraspencer: I knew something was wrong when he started posting at almost the same hour every night for about two weeks. He used to be here 24/7 but never for two hours at best. And now he’s gone.
Hope your alright hun.
Kylie Meyer
You know, for worshipping a book chocked full with metaphorical rhetoric, they sure as shark sugar missed that one by a whole continent!
Bill Hohn
The outrage! Geez what can I find next, gotta feel the outrage! Hot spicy outrageous outrage
lauraspencer
@McShane:
Happy 4th McShane! Nice new photo!
Giancarlo85
@lauraspencer: Busy, dipshit. I was in Las Vegas for two days.
You’re still the disrespectful piece of trash as always? the same tool that voted for Mitt Romney. You’re a disgrace to this country.
Giancarlo85
@Bob LaBlah: And you post here every single day, lard ass. Maybe you ought to take a break? Watching bareback porn everyday and visiting this site can’t be healthy personal habits.
Giancarlo85
@McShane: And you should be committed to a mental hospital.
Funny seeing all the right wingers in here beating their cheats with their fake patriotism (rather nationalistic bullshit). Nationalism is a disease.
Those who are angry at this photo suffer from right wing paranoia and dementia. They are nothing more than neo-fa*sci*sts who can’t stand the truth.
Giancarlo85
@Giancarlo85: *chests. But they are cheats lol!
lauraspencer
@Giancarlo85:
Were you asking me if I’m still a disrespectful piece of trash? You worded it as a question. So my answer is NO 🙂
I missed you. Please don’t leave town without letting us know. I was worried about you.
Saint Law
Well, looking over this blog it upset the usual shitbags and that’s no bad thing.
Giancarlo85
@lauraspencer: Yeah… are you? Your answer is no. You’re still a crazy lunatic.
Giancarlo85
And you know what else? I can go where I please. I don’t need some republican turd asking me where I was. I’m sure all the right wing lunatics were super busy on here parroting each other as always.
Bob LaBlah
@Giancarlo85: Hi, honey. As usual your panties are getting twisted over kindness being shown towards you. Nice to see you got somewhere and found a signal. Carl’s Jr. does have free wifi so I only knew it would be a matter of time before you reappeared. It seems three was the magic number of times needed to mention your name to make you appear (Laura, Mc…and me). Ok go on out to Arena and spend up what little you have left after paying your weekly room rent.
Giancarlo85
@Bob LaBlah: Nice to see the obese passive aggressive idiot is back at it. I have never worked at carls Jr. I don’t care for antigay companies. I work with a company that actually pays its employees well and am now having a transfer internally where my pay will essentially double. It isn’t my fault you are a broke ass idiot with 56kbps internet… Must take a good hour to download with bareback porn video. I didn’t think people still used dialup.
Bob LaBlah
@Giancarlo85: Wow! Girl woke up with me on her mind this morning, didn’t she? Your right. You don’t work for Carl’s Jr. (anymore). I thought I remembered you mentioning some where on here back during the winter that you saw a better future over at Burger King and you left. My bad. I had to really hunt to find that one. Well, congratulations on your promotion from tray picker upper/table wiper off’er to burger flipper. But one question, won’t your mascara run under all of that steam?
Oh, by the way, are you able to be a cis-gender on this job? YOU, pulling off those heels and wearing flats seems impossible enough to believe but hey, you have to do what YOU have to do in order to survive. Were I you, I would take that damn dress/ panties and makeup off, let the hair grow back on my legs, put on a pair of Levi’s or Dockers and go join the army with that phony social security number you have. (and you know its a fake). The military will accept any illegal that looks harmless but trainable and too stupid too stupid to see they are only helping fill a quota. You will do better there than working ten hours a day just to pay for a space/angle to sleep on a rooming house floor.
I honestly did miss you. Those were some terri………….
Bob LaBlah
@lauraspencer: @McShane: And to think we clicked our heels three times to return to THIS! I mean this queen is PLUM’on beside herself this morning.
lauraspencer
@Giancarlo85:
Not sure why you keep calling me a Republican. I have shared my voting record with you numerous times and the majority of candidates I have supported are Dems. I’m also registered a Democrat. Right now I’m liking Bernie Sanders for 2016.
lauraspencer
@Bob LaBlah:
Have you ever seen the movie, CANDY MAN??? You look in the mirror and say “Candy Man” 3 times and out of nowhere he attacks!!
Bob LaBlah
@lauraspencer: I went on http://www.imdb.com and watched the trailer. Those type of movies are not really my cup of tea and THIS (our reason for communicating on this thread) is why. People will do the strangest shit these days, even internet stalking if they became angry enough. I am careful and know when the time to pull back has arrived (such as now).
On the subject of America, the Fourth of July and the military, I ran across this one featuring ol’ Condi Rice. It looks more as though she is banging on the piano than actually playing it and rest assured, she doesn’t smile ONCE during the piece, but the piece itself is nice thanks to the violin player. Hope you like it.
http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/condoleezza-rice-performs-patriotic-amazing-grace-article-1.2281910
Giancarlo85
@Bob LaBlah: I don’t work for fast food, but keep giving us those cheap self reflections of yourself. You found a promotion from fast food to a local liquor store. You really are a fat miserable old man. All you do now is watch bareback porn.
I am a US Citizen, you phony little shit. You have nothing but the same old miserable attacks that reek of desperation of a fat loser who has nothing going on in his life. Go back to your boyfriend Donald Trump please.
@lauraspencer: You voted for Mitt Romney. That’s enough to tell to me you’re nothing more than a phony jackass.
Giancarlo85
Maybe they should deport you… back to Syria where you belong.
Bob LaBlah
@Giancarlo85: HILLARY IS GOING TO LOSE. Case closed. Jury dismissed. And don’t forget about my pancaked ass in your response.
lauraspencer
@Bob LaBlah:
Thank you for sharing Bob. Very nice! I wish Condi would have smiled at least once though.
lauraspencer
@Bob LaBlah:
I love pancakes!! Just this morning I couldn’t decide between blueberry or chocolate chip. Yum!
Giancarlo85
@Bob LaBlah: Lose against who? Because some broke ass redneck like you says so? Republicans are a fucking disaster.
Why are you two posting at the same time? Oh I have to wonder.
Bob LaBlah
@Giancarlo85: Dear, please go out and get some fresh air. I won’t add life because you would be out there for eternity so I will stop at fresh air. I am a former Reagan Democrat who has voted democratic since 1992 (though I reluctantly voted for Gore in 2000 because I feared a continuation of the Clinton years, which I do NOT wish its return).
Honey, hanging around wherever you are just to get a signal to respond to insults is not for the intelligent. Leave out of that restaurant before someone notices you are over in a corner and not buying anything. Go out and walk thru Griffith Park or something (and be sure to wear you heels walking up the hill). Go to the beach (and be sure to bring your heels). In other words TURN THAT GOD DAMN PHONE OFF AND GO OUTSIDE AND GET SOME FRESH AIR.
My lord, you need to join the military and get some common sense drilled into you. You might even like yourself and quit this cis-gender foolishness.
Will L
@David Lapierre: My sentiments exactly.
Look at all the parodies of the Last Supper. It’s not like they desecrated the US flag here. I’m sure the original Iwo Jima shot was somewhat staged just like this one. I like this shot.
Bob LaBlah
@Will L: There was an outcry about the Last Supper featuring different dog breeds. I thought it was cute, personally. I also own a german shepherd.
Giancarlo85
@Bob LaBlah: You suffer from severe mental delusions if you think one of these republicans was going to win. You’re just another one of the same. Your opinions are irrelevant to reality.
“In other words TURN THAT GOD DAMN PHONE OFF AND GO OUTSIDE AND GET SOME FRESH AIR.”
Why don’t you get out and get some fucking air, instead of jacking off that tiny dick of yours looking at bareback porn? You’re a total loser. I don’t use my phone to access queerty by the way.
“My lord, you need to join the military and get some common sense drilled into you. You might even like yourself and quit this cis-gender foolishness.”
Are you on drugs? What “cis-gender foolishness”? Who said anything about “cis-gender”? I don’t use that term. You’re an idiot in every sense. You have no common sense and you advocate dangerous reckless behavior.
You’re the one that needs common sense pounded into your thick skull.
scotshot
@Bob LaBlah: It figures you recommend something by a woman who would be arrested and tried for war crimes if she ventured outside the USA, and who believes in civil unions, but not gay marriage.
Did you get lost again on your way to the Log Cabin republicans meeting again?
Bob LaBlah
@scotshot: Sounds like you misspelled your name there, Scotchshot. You must be full of it. The log cabin republicans are too liberal and too much of a joke for my taste. You know how we ex-Reagan Democrats MUST be. What makes this country beautiful is how one can freely waste their vote on any hillbilly they can’t see thru. Including cis-gendered immigrants with freshly dried off backs.
scotshot
@Bob LaBlah: Flagged for racism
WilV
What amazes me about this is that the original photo is probably one of the most reproduced and parodied photos in history and yet none of the other versions have been met with such ire.
Where was the outrage when it was being reproduced as a commercial?
Here’s a link with at least two dozen other versions…
https://shar.es/1qDeE1
lauraspencer
@scotshot:
I’m sure I have as many holes as you. Mine probably are a bit tighter than yours though.
As for being passed out on the floor. That happened once when I was 10 and I fainted at the barber shop due to heat. Other than that I’m not sure what you are referencing. I guess you don’t know my ilk after all.
Have a great week!
Giancarlo85
@Bob LaBlah: You’re not just an ex-Reagan democrat, you’re a pro-idiot. And thanks for propelling Condi Rice on here. Total and complete war criminal just like the rest of you pro-war neo-conservative shitbags. And I found out exactly what you are… a neo-con. Thanks for sharing.
LCR are far right, and so you must be a neo-con. I figured that one out quite quickly.
“Including cis-gendered immigrants with freshly dried off backs.”
ARe you on drugs?
lauraspencer
@Giancarlo85:
If Condi is a war criminal isn’t Hillary one as well? Hillary voted in favor of the invasion.
Giancarlo85
@lauraspencer: Condi pushed the lies of the Bush administration and was part of the criminal Bush administration. The Bush adminstration lied to Congress. You’re such a bad BS artist, lauraspencer. Keep trying peddling the same garbage. Then again you’re the clown that voted for Mitt Romney.
lauraspencer
@Giancarlo85:
I think everyone who voted in favor for the invasion without digging further for details is responsible. The Bush Administration and everyone who backed the invasion accepting the intelligence as gospel about WMDs has to bare the burden.
I’m the same clown that voted for Bill Clinton twice, Al Gore, Kerry and Obama (when all my friends supported Hillary). So if I’m clown for voting for 1 person that you didn’t support then I must be a clown for the 5 votes I cast for Democrats as well.
I dated a guy who was clown in the Big Apple Circus. He loved his job making people laugh and making kids smile. I don’t see being a clown as bad. Thank you for the compliment Giancarlo. Hope Tuesday brings you much deserved happiness.
scotshot
@lauraspencer: The Bush administration manufactured the lines and pushed the narrative. Clinton and the others who voted for the war did so after becoming the victims of lies.
lauraspencer
@scotshot:
Leaders are supposed to lead. That involves doing their homework. I’m sure with the years of experience and resources the Democrats have they could have done a bit more research if they wanted to. These were not junior politicians voting for the invasion. They certainly were capable of seeing the holes in the evidence and they chose not to.
Whoever voted in favor is equally responsible. All votes matter the same. You can’t pick and choose to only be acknowledged for the happy/positive votes where everything works out perfectly. You have to take the good with the bad.
scotshot
@lauraspencer: Ridiculous. You continually display your ignorance of virtually every topic you comment on.
Giancarlo85
@lauraspencer: You’re a damn liar and you are vapidly ignorant. You have no clue what happened during that time. The US Congress acted on the intelligence it was given. Nobody was following anything blindly. The Bush administration deceived and lied to the entire nation. Many people were initially convinced soon turned their backs on the illegal war.
You’re an idiot. Is that a better word to use then clown? A total complete fucking idiot.
@lauraspencer: You voted for Mitt Romney who wanted to put troops on the ground in Iraq again. So if he was elected and that happened, you would be responsible. You’re a total and complete hypocrite. And I agree with scots… you don’t have any knowledge of this topic or any other related to politics. You are absolutely CLUELESS.
lauraspencer
@scotshot:
Not true. Prove it.
scotshot
@lauraspencer:
Prove what? That your post is ridiculous? That you display ignorance on a regular basis?
If you’re referring to your statement, it’s up to you to prove your claims, not me.
scotshot
As I’ve stated before I don’t waste time and energy getting mad at homophobes and haters online. You? Laughable. Feel free to make what you believe are cutting barbs, we all need a good laugh now and then.
Another lame at attempt at deflection fails.
lauraspencer
@Giancarlo85:
And you were privy to the inner workings of DC? Did Hillary call to consult with you? If your comments on here are true then you were a teenager when the invasion happened. I’m sure your vast knowledge of politics was so great that you know better than all.
Sleep well!
lauraspencer
@scotshot:
Yes, prove it.
No, it isn’t up to me. I’m not the one whose getting his knickers in a bunch. You are. If my comments are so upsetting to you then feel free to skip over them. Think of how many minutes in a day you will get back by ignoring an unknown person typing on a blog.
scotshot
Whether or not I post is my decision. Do your panties get wet when I post? Get a pair of Depends.
“It can be proved…..” Sure thing.
lauraspencer
@scotshot:
It didn’t fail. You responded to my posting….again.
scotshot
@lauraspencer: Deflection. Your post cannot be proved.
lauraspencer
@scotshot:
It can be proved. I see you posted again 🙂